Did you know that #kangarooselfie is a banned hashtag? And Geoff talks about Below Deck (again), and the pair criticise social media without explaining their absence from it (yet again).
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Did you know that #kangarooselfie is a banned hashtag? And Geoff talks about Below Deck (again), and the pair criticise social media without explaining their absence from it (yet again).
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Geoff 0:09
And welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I'm of course your co host Geoff and as always, I am with co host, Georgie Yes co host Georgie not other types of Georgie blog posts Georgie I have many I am multifaceted. Yeah, I am a multifaceted modern millennial lady.
Georgie 0:34
Oh my god, I'm gonna use that mix. I'm a multifaceted modern millennial
Geoff 0:41
triple and triple am I'm a multi faceted multi layered, modern male.
Georgie 0:52
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 0:55
Anyways, you had triggered, you triggered last episode triggered
Georgie 0:58
in a bad way you don't trigger it in the way that millennials are triggered every time someone talks about housing prices. But we were talking about you said Lincoln buyer and then I remembered, I don't know. I don't know if it's a problem. But I've noticed that some people on Instagram have stopped saying explicitly my link Oh, you know, I've got this promotion or whatever or buy my whatever my product, Lincoln bio, they've been writing it differently. Just like how I don't notice them. Like spelling it differently, or using a one instead of the eye or whatever. And I don't know if you've noticed, but similarly, whenever people say sex, they've been writing sags. So watch Eg is weird. And I wonder. Because I realised from someone I was following, who seemed to have changed the direction of their account from selling jewellery to being a bit more like I'm going to help small businesses market themselves better on social media. That was a little bit odd because there wasn't a formal announcement around it. But you mentioned banned hashtags. So there is a banned hashtag checker for Instagram
Geoff 2:14
tags. My thoughts.
Georgie 2:17
I might as well ban doesn't like.
Geoff 2:21
Oh, right. Sorry. Like they're not allowed. Why am I why am I asking Leo? What does brave have on the interesting Okay, so this is an AI chat bot because obviously, everything needs a chat bot nowadays. Nowadays. Instagram does not have a list of banned hashtags. Well, they don't have a champion tell you there.
Georgie 2:48
Yeah. Yes. So there is a website. I can't remember. But if you just look it up, I'm sure it'll show up. Don't get rid of Leo. I think it's that first link Instagram banned hashtags from
Geoff 3:00
I hate Leo. Oh, no. I'm stuck with Leo. I don't want Leo and it will. Okay, banned hashtags. Oh, cool. Okay. It's a tap base thing.
Georgie 3:14
Yeah, check hashtag. So I decided to just check because sometimes I hashtag my stuff Tuesday, like fashion, fashion blogger, blogger.
Geoff 3:22
What else do I put? No banned hashtags are found.
Georgie 3:27
Sexism you have to put you have no, no, you have to put a hash actually in front of it. Yeah. No banned hashtags. So that's fine. But I think you can check this list at the bottom. Check out this list of 18,006 Oh, yeah. And I didn't realise it was on X or Twitter though. Just go
Geoff 3:49
show list. Here we go. Oh, do
Georgie 3:53
okay. Don't read them out yet. But I'll tell you, I'll tell you. What was interesting to me. I started searching for whatever I usually put which is around blogging or like travel nature. That's the kind of shit that I post. But there are some interesting ones in the banned list. I was like, let's have a look and see what they've got. Asian girl is one of them. Okay, and I'm like, okay, is someone exploiting things? You know, there's some that I think might be to do with like sexual content, which is fine.
Geoff 4:27
African girl is on here too. Yeah, just Asians.
Georgie 4:31
Yeah. And then there were some interesting ones. So I'll go through a couple of the ones that I can remember. I saw kangaroo selfie. So you can still hashtag your posts with these things, but they kind of won't be shown or they'll be hidden or you could be shattered.
Geoff 4:49
Yeah, apparently. So
Georgie 4:51
I go on Instagram and look at some of these. There's some around like, glute workouts I think or like, rebuild it, you know, like people to work. Hang on there. But fair enough. I've seen I've seen like, because I follow some fitness influencers. Yeah. So you can still see some of them. So I was I was looking at some of that that seemed unassuming, you know, like Asian girl. I don't know, maybe there are some nude photos there or something. But I had a look at some of them and you could still see. So kangaroo selfie. I was curious about so I went to open it in the Instagram app. And then I got this interstitial, this dialogue, whatever modal that I should probably find it, but it said something about animal cruelty. Well, like do you want to proceed? And so I didn't. So that was probably people.
Geoff 5:43
Yeah. I feel like people. Yeah, if I had, I don't look at the hashtags very often. But some of them are very, like even tagging, like there’s to people in a in a real, but there's like 12 things tagged, which is like accounts tagged, which maybe they're just trying, they're trying to abuse the tagging system to it's like SEO. Like you just you just keyword more attention. You just keyword overloading so that anyone that's looking for, you know, a celebrity or something will have your your video show up.
Georgie 6:24
Yeah, so there's some obvious ones here that are there were some around like COVID vaccination. There's some we can see here that like, gay keys, so maybe people didn't like, I don't know. You
Geoff 6:36
could say Italian places. Just italiano what is going on? Just asking. Just asking
Georgie 6:44
knives of Instagram. I mean, I can look maybe it's condoning some kind of violence, marketing marijuana. I get it. Some of these makes sense. But that Yeah. You know, some of them were just like a Mexican girl. I
Geoff 6:55
don't know. It was a Londoner. You're not allowed to be in London anymore. Yeah, so
Georgie 7:00
yeah. So I'm also wondering if some Money money money. Like, what's this just full of crap that they stopped, they stopped allowing these hashtags. There are some in other languages other than English as well. I think I saw some in, in Chinese or something. So maybe, again, people abusing these for like, different reasons. Yeah, in Korean, it's,
Geoff 7:25
it's pretty, this really interesting like, because like hashtags, obviously, they were created as a way to group, you know, similar topics. So if you're going out and banning things, then what's the point in using them anymore, you can't really rely on them as a grouping mechanism. And then people obviously abusing things because they abuse things. They also have this problem on Twitch where if people don't know Twitch is a predominantly a platform for people to stream what they're playing like, specifically game plays. But it's just turned to this platform of people trying to circumvent the rules. So they have you obviously have a few rules around, like exposure of body parts and things like that. But recently, they actually they actually loosen them up a bit around how they just their excuses. They aren't keeping up with the times the closer aligned to Tik Tok and, or other social medias that allow? I don't know, not not nudity, but they don't penalise you for having too much cleavage, for instance, which is, Becky, how can you how can you penalise someone for a shape of body? They had no choice of a kind of thing? Yeah. But at the same time people abuse that right to like, Well, yeah, exactly. I can just show more and more and more and more cleavage just because you said yeah, I can show it so that people just go to the to like the degree. Yeah. Oh, someone got flagged, I think for appearing as if they didn't because they didn't have any clothes on but they had a boob tube on the entire time. Just above camera. Yeah, there was the they couldn't see any clothes so they just like got flagged for it. So you can get shadow banned now because they'll say if you did, because they introduced this whole content warning, this whole sexual, like this is much for mature audiences, whatever. And they said they'll apply it automatically if you forget to. So a group of people on the moderation team can essentially or an AI can essentially bias their way bias and just censor people just whatever they want any case, it's really been
Georgie 10:03
problematic. Yeah, I think I might have mentioned that, like some tattoo artists have had their posts like removed because they've done a tattoo like on someone's sternum or whatever. And it's been seen as like nudity. But then you see other people, it's because it's not, it's not consistent. Like you see someone who might, like, be basically nude and then they've censored like, you know, the nipples in their private parts, like a woman's body. And that's fine. But then you've got like a picture of a tattoo on someone's leg, chest. Yeah, not showing anything and then that gets banned, or that gets taken down.
Geoff 10:45
It's interesting, because yeah, Twitch had this nudity policy that allows illustrated nipples, but not human underboob
Georgie 10:53
and illustrate, so like a painting or like kind
Geoff 10:56
of like your tattoo. If you had a tattoo of boobs on your take your arm or something, and it was show yeah, they're gonna be allowed.
Georgie 11:04
But they won't know actual, like,
Geoff 11:09
yeah, they walked this back, they said, It's too ambiguous. They're not allowing illustrated nipples anymore. So I empathise with the platforms that this is a really difficult space to be in. But the thing is, they're trying to make Twitch kid friendly. But another take is that Twitch has never been kid friendly, like, on Twitch to have have been chatting about, you know, like you said, topics that are really mature, like, like suicide or whatever. But they talk about this openly in general chat, because Twitch also has a just chatting category where people don't have to be streamed on streaming games or any particular game. So there's a lot of adult themes already. Yeah. On the platform and the platforms minimum age, just their teen and you could say that well, it twitches not actually safe for kids in any case, so why try so hard? But yeah, anyways, just this is why every six months I think about starting a social media and then think and then I say, and then you're like this No, yeah, fuck all of managing it. Right. I can make develop it Sure. But like managing it just ships the ship
Georgie 12:27
is like, it's tricky. Yeah. Like another thing with the nipple thing is it's always women's Exactly. Nipples that are the problem if you put like, Okay, I think that I don't know if we talked about this. But what if you? Yeah, like photoshopped a man's onto a woman's? Yeah. And then posted that, is that gonna get a second? Yep. And that's
Geoff 12:49
the thing, right? The culture around Twitch, like I said, is to attempt to circumvent this and people like, their tracks have done this. Women have worn I don't know, a shirt with men's nipples on it. And like, this is fine. But none of the things are not fine, etcetera, etcetera. It's super grey area. Like oh, hashtag X is Shadow banned on Instagram.
Georgie 13:15
Yeah, there's some that obvious like weed. Yeah, we nuggets wanna die. Now I braid? Yeah, see this summer round like that? I think yeah, like this, wish I was dead, that are kind of like suicidal ideation, or, you know, probably actual suicide. Yeah. And then I've seen some related to eating disorders that I feel like some people might not know, if they hadn't experienced that before, or knew someone who'd experienced an eating disorder. And so I can see why they might be like, hey, gonna ban this hashtag? Because to someone who's not seen this content, it could be upsetting, or was that sort of like,
Geoff 13:55
I feel like it can't be It can't be banning it just because someone else yeah, I'm not saying I agree. Yes. It's ridiculous. Because it's like, okay, if people find it upsetting, then how about they filter their own hashtags not to see things like this?
Georgie 14:12
Maybe because the platform feels some responsibility to protect people. But then it goes to what you're saying about like, if the place if the platform is not, like under 18 under 30 and friendly to begin with, and then you're trying to make it so. Yeah, that was difficult. Yeah.
Geoff 14:32
In in a risky take. For us anyways, because we generally talk about work.
Georgie 14:43
What's not risk?
Geoff 14:46
We attempt to do this sometimes at work, because a lot of our work gets consumed and used by people within our company. So it's not customer. It's not customer but paste. It's all internal. I feel like we try to balance this stuff all the time where we're like, Okay, how much of this? Are we taking away in the in the hopes that so that they don't have to think about it? versus how much do they want to think about it? And, and we should just let them let them have access in this is very, two very different sides and how you can build something to give someone? Yeah,
Georgie 15:27
we have the same, we have the same problem, like how much do you want to lock it down? So, you know, how much do you want to give them freedom, but then the freedom for them means that they have
Geoff 15:38
to do more work? Yeah. So sometimes we try and optimistically remove the work in in a way to make it easier for them. But then they also come back and say, Well, I Well, actually, I have some freedom on this side of things. Because I would very much like to have control and you
Georgie 16:03
know, don't want you to have control because we should have we
Geoff 16:07
should have good. So yeah, we just struggled this balance of, of like making assumptions sometimes to save people from themselves.
Georgie 16:17
But honestly, we're not even consistent most of the time. Yes, sometimes you're just like this particular problem. We actually don't want to exactly once vary, so we will give you the freedom. Sorry. Okay. I mean, yeah, that was a very good analogy, like, yeah, there are some very niche what I spotted one very niche hashtag on this band hashtag list. Yeah, it was I think it's something like deadlifts and gummies. I know you haven't heard. It's actually quite like, it's not super explicit. But what do you think that means? Dead? Listen, gummies
Geoff 16:58
I can't even begin to you have no clue think about how that could have been. How that could be misconstrued.
Georgie 17:05
Okay, a deadlift is so it wouldn't be misconstrued. It's actually a thing if you you only know it if you know it. So a deadlift is like a kind of powerlifting strength movement where you lift the barbell forgot no big deal, whatever, it doesn't really matter, same as like a benchpress. Or it could be anything. gummies and I only know this because I follow someone who I think like is in that sort of group of people who understand what this is. What they're referring to with gummies is like, chewable like gummy bears that like medicinal marijuana, cannabis. And it's for like anxiety and relaxation. So it's not like I'm getting all fucking drugged up. It's because it's like, it's for their mental health. And then Instagram has banned this. It's very specific. It's very good. I'm gonna lift weights and also eat gummies that have medicinal weed in them or whatever. Yeah.
Geoff 18:04
I so the last season of below deck med that I watched, had this thing where someone had valium on on board, one of the staff had valium on board. So I had to look this up on my I heard of it, but I didn't know what it is. But they also had this thing called a marijuana pen. I didn't realise you could do this, but it's basically like a vape pen size thing. You just stuffed marijuana in it. So it's like vaping. But you could actually just but with marijuana. I don't know how it works. You still have the light at I suppose. But essentially, it's Valium is something that that is a DI Sapan works by enhancing the activity blah, blah, blah, to deal with, to deal with anxiety disorders or alcohol withdrawal symptoms. Anyways, so the nugget of information that I learned from this is that a the maritime law regards both marijuana and that and there's drugs as absolutely legal. Like the certain states in America and certain countries I suppose they they all made marijuana they made may have made marijuana legal, but it's like maritime law has decided that it's completely legal in any basically kind of have it on the boat, right? And obviously, you don't declare something like that if you know it's completely illegal. Yeah. The value even if it was prescribed, and she could present a prescription had to be like locked away in a medical closet. And you had to you have to like request specific permission to access it, I think. But, but for this specific drug, I think they said it was absolutely illegal. So you literally couldn't Bring it on board, even if you even if you presented all of it, like it was pretty interesting. So the takeaway from this person was actually quite, quite destructive. They said that you're all out to get me you just wanted me off the boat, whereas it's sort of like, whoa, calm, calm the farms. But at the same time, it's sort of they, they, they must have known that this stuff was illegal. You had to obviously read up about it. And but they hadn't declared any of this. And apparently they would never have been allowed on the pool if they did anyways. So So I
Georgie 20:43
stuck a snuck it on. They
Geoff 20:45
snuck it on their drug smuggler, essentially according to maritime, and then so then it was actually spotted by someone on the on the crew they took a photo and they're like, sorry, this is like my duty to report this shit. So they got called out drama. Yeah, it was massive job. I was like, Oh, this is really interesting. Because apparently even for things like Benadryl things like antihistamines Yeah, you have to get medically checked out that you require it first. And then
Georgie 21:18
according to maritime
Geoff 21:21
Yeah, according to according to like, I don't know boat boat or whatever laws is that yeah, you get a medical officer to verify that a like an anti histamine would solve this or whatever. And then they had to get the get a nurse or someone from land to come on board, apply the Benadryl anti histamine and then leave with the rest of it. So they can't even store some on the on the ship in case you need it. And I'm like, wow. It's um, yeah, it's a full on is a full on thing. And it was quite interesting to learn about they're really strict procedures. The reason around this stuff is that actually the staff are in are responsible for everyone on the boat. So there's an emergency and they needed some, like this is a head position as well, by the way, so it's not like some low like deckhand or intern, but it's one of the heads and their responsibilities are of course weigh up if there was a fire or some kind of emergency, they need to be switched on to like heard everybody that like all the guests and stuff to a specific part of the boat. It's kind of like fire safety and things like that. Apparently, they're like responsible for that. So if they're under the influence of anything that fucks up like their their safety, then yeah, no go kick them off the boat. So they got let go. They just walked they walked off the boat no one knew why. And then they disappeared from the next like next Tada.
Georgie 22:57
It was pretty freakin drama man.
Geoff 22:59
Yeah, yeah, it's not even people drama it's like well drug the drug thing is quite heavy. Yeah but yeah, I don't know about watching more bullet below deck to be honest I think I'm done yeah reached peak there was um, there was a very hot and cold relationship on board as well and it was like affecting their jobs they not even doing that their their jobs anymore because they're just so stressed out about the other person the other person and I'm like, you don't get on it I love you after like three weeks of knowing each other for two to two to three weeks. But this is all caught
Georgie 23:40
right so like Collins, like as in the show's been cut a little bit so it's a really three weeks or
Geoff 23:46
Oh yeah, it's definitely three weeks because each Charter is a couple of days or like Yeah, three days so after after one two and three charters like they have they said I love you and then
Georgie 23:58
it's fine Jeff just let them be maybe they did fall in love it's
Geoff 24:02
I don't know but in any case, like ballistic for you after after every chapter they all go out and have a drink and stuff but they're like this couple is always fighting so they're bringing down the mood. Everyone's like I really hate it how they're like joining us because yeah, anyways, I don't know. Yeah, my partner describes it as like employee drama that is not of that's not like of my company. Really enjoyable to watch for some reason.
Georgie 24:27
It's your I recommend you found your your trash TV Nish
Geoff 24:32
Yeah, maybe but I'm kind of a retina so I gotta find something new to watch. Yeah, so was it apparently was a your it's like your mom watches this. Yeah. She
Georgie 24:48
like interesting. It was I was like, literally you and my mom.
Geoff 24:55
Yeah, yeah. Gotta have something that can be Watching the background or not even watching the background, just like switch off. I've been waking up at like four or 5am these days.
Georgie 25:07
Why? Because you're a minimalist and one of those dudes who like, here's how much you get done before everyone else
Geoff 25:13
is. No, I don't want to do that intentionally. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, for some reason I've started waking up four or 5am. It's worked out in my favourite this week, because the other the, the design lead is on New Zealand time. So I've been just working in New Zealand time to get to get through some, some work stuff, which is, yeah, it's quite interesting to work on two hours ahead, like starting at 7am. When you know, no one else is awake. Or doing stuff. Yeah, it's been good. It's been interesting. It's really weird. So I don't really want to continue. Like,
Georgie 26:00
the sunrise these days. Because I wake up at about 640 Almost every single day. It's very specific. Yes, but the sun's already fucking up.
Geoff 26:11
It is. It's up by about five I think.
Georgie 26:15
Well, I prefer I definitely prefer it to like, winter time.
Geoff 26:19
No, I hate like I hate daylight savings. Savings.
Georgie 26:24
Wait, hang on. You hate daylight savings. So you hate
Geoff 26:29
I hate I hate daylight Daylight Saving hate daylight.
Georgie 26:33
No.
Geoff 26:34
Yeah. Because like, oh, what why do I need the daylight? This is because I have no activities to do after five in the day like so. Oh,
Georgie 26:44
it doesn't saying you don't care that it's like bright.
Geoff 26:49
Yeah. Bright sunny at five o'clock. Seven
Georgie 26:51
o'clock PM? Yeah, cuz you're just like, this isn't a benefit to me.
Geoff 26:56
Yeah. And all it does is just screw with your, your original timing that is non daylighting.
Georgie 27:03
I don't think it screws with mine. But I even though I don't do many activities after work or whatever. I like that sprite because I just don't like when it's really dark. It's fucking depressing. It's not a London I just want to buy some groceries at like 6pm And like, it's fucking dark. Now I'd rather. I don't know. I like I like sunlight. I like dailies. I like when I can see. Like
Geoff 27:30
seeing things. I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm just a basic need to see things. Yeah, I suppose I suppose. No. So you wouldn't move to London or anything?
Georgie 27:45
You asked me about 13 years ago before I'd even been there, then I'd be like, hot eyes obsessed. Because I did. I was very interested in London at the time. And like, went there. And I was like,
Geoff 28:02
that's everyone. What's the hullabaloo is? Yeah. I tell you that. They will tell you like work started. Since we got an office. We have free meals on Tuesdays.
Georgie 28:17
Yeah, I think you mentioned Well, I think you mentioned that you weren't getting like yeah, free meals every Yeah.
Geoff 28:22
And I don't know if I wish mentioned on another episode, but we did a round of icebreakers.
Georgie 28:28
I think it did mention this on an episode and it was like, What's your favourite
Geoff 28:32
thing about Sony? Yeah, have done this. Yeah, yeah. And then the London it was like, oh, in that case, Sunshine makes everyone happier.
Georgie 28:44
I think people Yeah, I think people from there like that. It's not fucking gloomy over here.
Geoff 28:53
Yeah, it is. It's one of those things that I probably will will not realise affects me as much until I actually go somewhere where it has zero sunshine. But we've been on a holiday to you know, Glasgow, which is like Scots, Scotland, northern Scotland. Man. They have sunlight till 11pm It's, it's it's really annoying.
Georgie 29:20
Yeah, that was similar to when I went to Norway. Like it was still light at like, we from when I was in Greece. Like, the time of year that I went, it was still like, at like dinner time and then they had dinner late as well. But oh, yeah, apparently so I can't remember. If there's if it's an exact place but in Norway at a certain time of year. They only have a sudden never sets. So you can go for a hike at midnight or I want to I actually want to do that.
Geoff 29:58
There are some things that you want to get out of away. Because what what is it like you have to start hikes early because you don't want to end up trying to finish your hike mid day at 38 degrees. So you got to start earlier so that you end your hikes. Some reason why I like nine and 10. So avoiding crowds, avoiding crowds, so assuming that at midnight, it would not be the peak of heat. But you still sunlight, then yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that might be
Georgie 30:28
the sky. I think in someone's video The sky was realised and like red, or like, deep pink.
Geoff 30:36
Eyes. also heard of like, sunlamps with with faux fur the complete opposite where people don't get any sunlight. Yeah, we talked about sad lamps. Sad lamps, are they cause Yeah.
Georgie 30:49
Yeah, it was a seasonal affective disorder. Wait, yeah.
Geoff 30:52
Seasonal Affective satellites.
Georgie 30:56
We I think we talked about like really like last month
Geoff 30:59
like recently sat lamps. Yeah. I don't remember looking at these. But I mean, like, oh, symptoms of wintertime. Sad include these things. went to summer time includes Okay. All right. What if I What if I can just like if I close all my blinds then yeah, and and I just have no sense of what the daylight is that like outside I just rely on my South maps or just
Georgie 31:31
make yourself a prisoner.
Geoff 31:35
Yeah, I just rely on these lights to tell me what what day time it is. I mean, is very expensive. Maybe. Because you like yeah, and stuff. Why
Georgie 31:47
don't you just like go into a dungeon?
Geoff 31:50
Yeah, live in a cave. I think I've said this multiple times. I love to live in a cave. Would you though? It's always 21 degrees. Oh, well, you have this wet
Georgie 32:00
wood crossing. So
Geoff 32:05
it's just wet. And I'm assuming that eventually all the things you bring down there would mould but so yeah, that would suck. So maybe they just should just turn off hashtags. If it's such a big problem. Like stop it from even being a thing? Yes. Just remove hashtags. It's a flawed system. Yeah,
Georgie 32:24
actually, wait, let's explore this. So like, who Yeah, who uses? I use them for promotion so that other people can whatever find my shit? don't really think about it. It's just I just do it. Cross my fingers and hope but I don't actually use it myself to find things
Geoff 32:44
I don't I don't use it to find things either. Yeah, does I know algorithm find things? Apparently not because everyone who misuses it miss categorises things anyway, so what's the point?
Georgie 32:53
But I think it's useful for some companies or they might find it useful already. If they want to do like a competition or something. Like hashtag it with this so I can follow this hashtag and then have a look at what people are posting under it. Yeah.
Geoff 33:10
But like when you start actually like removing people's names like Miley Cyrus, when you start like targeting very specific people's names just because I don't know they're misusing it somehow it's a sort of like, goodbye Lululemon. Because Lulu is where?
Georgie 33:35
Lulu
Geoff 33:41
but yeah, it seems, seems fraught as soon as you start banning random things like hand surgery. impacted
Georgie 33:48
wisdom too harsh so bad for you dentists out there.
Geoff 33:53
Yeah. What do people want to find all the you know? Gloves? Gloves. gum grafting? Oh, actually, I found something weird at the office the other day. They had a paperclip in the wall. Somehow. It's brick. And it's painted white. Yeah, underneath the white paint was this very distinct shape of a paperclip? So it made me made like a flag. No, don't even fight it's 3d. So
Georgie 34:27
no, but as in like, was it open? I was just standing
Geoff 34:31
just like stuck inside the wall. So it's like semi semi plastered or something like that over the over the paper clip and I was like, just sat there wondering. It distracted me from the conversation I was having I'm like wait, the wall is contemplated how on earth? Yes, someone put a paperclip and then put such a thick layer of paint over it that it would stick that
Georgie 34:56
must have been on purpose right
Geoff 34:59
now a call. Yeah, I had to be on purpose. But why would anyone do that?
Georgie 35:06
Hash? So, like you could be distracted from whatever conversation you were having?
Geoff 35:10
Yeah, like right now. Hashtag freaky.
Georgie 35:15
Hashtag financial help.
Geoff 35:20
Hashtag dirty.
Georgie 35:23
Yeah, see, like, drowning? That's not very good. Yeah,
Geoff 35:27
dabs magazine, whatever that is. So yeah, I think we should just get rid of hashtags. But like the literal word date is it's a fruit I mean, this is coming from someone who has switched his entire media consumption to RSS feeds of very specific sites. So don't even use
Georgie 35:53
I just saw bought workout. You know, that's what I mean. Right? Like,
Geoff 35:57
I need to know how exploiting that shit. Well, I need to know how people work out their butts. And is it Yeah, you
Georgie 36:06
do deadlifts you do? Like there's this machine at the gym that does this, like opens your hip flexors so that you're using your glutes to Yeah, and then there's these cable ones. So you put your ankle in the cable and you kick upwards and exercises your body. So there's a lot of but workouts but I guess people were posting more but
Geoff 36:28
yeah, you're also talking about someone who thinks Instagram has become completely off topic. It's not even about photography anymore. I saw no, I saw someone like sitting in one of those portable bathtubs. Just thinking what's a portable bottle? You're not seeing this? Like inflatable? Not quite. They're like expandable let me just try and bring up this tab so ridiculous. Honestly.
Georgie 37:02
Oh, no. Oh my God
Geoff 37:06
said Oh, Lady opens up opens up this. This looks like a big expandable bin. And then they filled it with hot water and the Senate. And the thing is like they have this like I don't know this TV on a stand in the middle of this room. If you look at it carefully, it's so super staged because no one's living room looks like this layout yet it it's kind of set up like a living look fake to Yeah. And then you can set the temperature of the water and it'll just heat the water and then this is like a cover to cover that you can I don't even add describe this.
Georgie 37:47
It's like a cover for the bath but it has a hole in it where you stick your head out and it covers you kind of like a like
Geoff 37:55
a suit, like a hazmat head suit. But
Georgie 38:00
then why do you need that pot? If you want it.
Geoff 38:03
It's the steam or whatever. Anyways, Suvi is a cooking technique that involves vacuum sealing food and a bag. This is basically what it is. It is like a large CV machine but for your your body and your face. That sucks.
Georgie 38:21
No one likes that comment. Oh, can you just not see?
Geoff 38:25
Oh my god. Yeah. In any case, it is the most ridiculous thing. There are there are more practical applications of this where you have a shower and you don't have a bathtub. And you can have an inflatable bathtub that you just inflate inside the shower so that you can fill it with water. So you have a bathtub in your shower. So that's useful, but this is this is like a been in the middle.
Georgie 38:52
Now you could also block your toilet and then fill it with water and sit in the toilet.
Geoff 38:59
Essentially what this is a very large toilet. So this lady is like scrubbing yourself was watching TV. I think there was a top comment somewhere around here around like great. Electricity plus water gets you gets you classic roasted roasted. Yeah. In any case, they came across this and this is on Instagram and it's just amazing. It's yeah, possibly. It's it's all just like ads now and
Georgie 39:37
and yeah, like you said it's no longer like a photo sharing thing. And I kind of missed that I kind of miss being all like to talk about was it in the previous episode of this episode? Like looking at your friends camcorder vids.
Geoff 39:51
Oh, yeah. Yeah,
Georgie 39:53
like, Lady
Geoff 39:55
take a bath in the middle of her living room.
Georgie 40:00
about your friend taking a bath and
Geoff 40:02
imagine with your friends
Georgie 40:05
logging from their like boss in the living room
Geoff 40:09
yeah I think you get this whole sink thing that keeps coming up where it's it's super it's a cool No Don't get me wrong I I kind of like how cool this technology stuff is but it's not what I come to Instagram for at least used to.
Georgie 40:27
This is the content of infomercials. Oh yeah true morning shows. Yeah, check out this cool gadget if you calm the next five minutes. Throw in another one for free. Yeah,
Geoff 40:37
and it's only 9999 Before the for shipping. And it's all recycled is the same material. Yeah, it's
Georgie 40:51
like sustainability had was just like use resources.
Geoff 40:56
know if anything is not
Georgie 41:00
someone put like who the fuck is drinking tar? They put like some veggie Mike Brown look and shit in the sink and dark
Geoff 41:08
soy in a wineglass. Probably.
Georgie 41:12
It's totally not like watery poop.
Geoff 41:15
Yeah, don't get me wrong. There's probably a tie as a platform the time and place we
Georgie 41:21
hang on wait, sorry, sorry to interrupt, but she's testing the single shard how it can clean but she barely left the the wind and the whatever the tower or the video my wherever the soy sauce. She barely left it on the surface very long. Oh, yeah. The real the real thing. If you have if you're a real person who uses a real sink, you might have stains on the sink because you haven't cleaned the sink. You don't clean it immediately after Yeah, randomly spilled fucking wine. And
Geoff 41:50
yeah, that's true, right? It's sort of like, fuck, well, if you're trying to test its unsustainability. That's
Georgie 41:58
not to leave it there for like 48 hours minimum. Yeah, of
Geoff 42:02
course you can clean this stuff immediately. There's no question about that. If your sink stains after point five seconds, then you've got other problems.
Georgie 42:16
The blue thing with the blue people? Oh,
Geoff 42:17
this one? No, the one under it. Oh, this one? I can't look at it because I have to log in. And otherwise, it can't check what I'm doing anymore. Some unreal. untrackable on track was no good. If you can't track it. Did it have any value? If a tree fell in the forest? Did it really fall?
Georgie 42:39
Every time someone says that? I'm thinking like, of course it did.
Geoff 42:43
It fell. But do we really need to know about it falling? That's true.
Georgie 42:49
I demand to know. I don't want to receive an email. Every time. A tree a tree falls in the forest.
Geoff 42:56
Imagine having that service. You have just 1000 drones like across the forest just waiting for trees to fall and then like notifying it's like watching cheese age.
Georgie 43:06
Oh my god. Yes. Just bring it episode that was bringing it back.
Geoff 43:12
I think we call it something that was cheese. Yeah. But before before we before we sign off. I just had this because I mentioned it I think the last episode or whatever episode. Link tree?
Georgie 43:25
Oh, yeah. The last episode.
Geoff 43:29
Link tree. Now. I don't know. I had no idea how big link tree was. And I don't understand how successful all of these Lincoln bio type stuff is. Because it literally relies on Instagram, on not letting you put a link in the description of your photo or reel or something like that. Right? If tomorrow Instagram was saying, hey, everybody links in your description work that has gone, gone. Gone. To be fair, people have other profiles and things that they want to link to like your Amazon stuff. But I mean, if I'm looking at a photo and I want to know where to buy that thing, I just look in the description click the link who needs LinkedIn, the buyer? Yeah, it's a completely unnecessary user experience. But I had no idea they had a pricing model for linktree
Georgie 44:22
Cuz I never looked into this as a first I'm actually like looking into it. I know I know what it is I simply because I'm like what I need what I actually just add because you can add multiple links in your bio now. Yeah, really? Yeah. Yeah, you can so I think right now on mine, I have two of my latest blog posts. So
Geoff 44:37
it comes up with a sheet doesn't it? It comes out of the sheet at the bottom when you open it thanks
Georgie 44:41
so like it says one it says whatever link and one other or two others. Yes, yeah.
Geoff 44:50
So that that in itself was already like doing this for but it's so that I didn't look into this until Now either but I saw an article saying link tree had acquired a similar company.
Georgie 45:08
Yeah, because I know that there's more than just link tree was maybe the original one, or maybe the first one or whatever. And I noticed that some others existed that effectively did the same thing. See,
Geoff 45:19
they acquired this thing called bento. And they also acquired this thing called Koji, and acquire and they acquired this thing called Song link, or, or, or destiny. I honestly only saw one of these, I didn't realise they acquired so many of these things. But how are they making so much money that they can actually acquire other companies that that do the same similar thing? It boggles my mind.
Georgie 45:50
So you're wondering about their revenue or whatever?
Geoff 45:52
Yeah. making so much money? Yeah. How
Georgie 45:56
do you follow a lot of like, creators or like businesses?
Geoff 46:00
I know, I don't follow anybody. Okay, so
Georgie 46:03
you only follow like people who do the camcorder videos,
Geoff 46:06
I think the most I follow people that I know. And maybe some businesses like coin,
Georgie 46:14
so maybe you're an anomaly, but I feel like I think I follow about 1000 people and how it's too much, it's too much to talk about. But if I think about all the people that I follow, many of which are like, people I know in person, there's still a majority of everybody else who's not someone I know, personally. They have, like articles they have, sorry, they like small businesses or shops, influences pretty much every single one of them as a victory. So anyone who's not just like, you know, your EZ person, I think every I think a lot of people actually use it, so that and if they pay, then that's where they get in, like their revenue, schedule
Geoff 46:59
a link to go live and disappear at specific dates and times in the future. I guess people who dropship and like, this is I think that I understand why this is important. Because sometimes you are only doing a limited time sale and you don't want that link to stay there for that long. Yeah, like
Georgie 47:19
you're under like 24 hours from like 12am to 12am. Yeah, next day. Yeah.
Geoff 47:23
I'm a strong believer in payment models that are very geared towards businesses. Like providing business value makes sense to pay for because you're earning money as a business and then you're able to pay for business value. It's makes sense. That's the thing that YouTube can't get right for some reason. So yeah, okay. Like Amazon Associates programmes. Apple performance partner programme.
Georgie 47:53
Oh, they've got the buy me a gift in the tip jar and stuff. Okay,
Geoff 47:58
buy me a gift. This is like coffee they sing you know, Link cheese like acquired Coffee. Coffee, ah, this custom turns turns referred by the thing is, if we were making money off this the of this Instagram of this podcast, I'd probably I'd probably upgrade our simple cast to actually have a look at all the extra analytics that it gives us in the in the top tier paid model. But like realistically, don't get me shit. It doesn't matter what topics we talk about that will get us more views more listeners, viewers, because
Georgie 48:38
we're not gonna plan to talk about
Geoff 48:42
not gonna optimise our topics, that'd be insane.
Georgie 48:45
Our topics already optimised in the way that there there are no topics.
Geoff 48:51
Yeah. And we suffer. By ran. Yes. Not that any of the repetition we've done this episode will maybe inspire anyone to like go trolling through our 100 Plus episodes just to go find the in depth version about backpacks or something.
Georgie 49:10
So yeah, in any case, and then we'll see a download for like random. Yeah, all
Geoff 49:14
of a sudden episode 94 shoots up, because we talked about watching ageing cheese.
Georgie 49:22
I think it was way early in the 90s. Probably
Geoff 49:25
Probably like 50s. The thing is, you can't search our we can't search the content of our of our podcasts. I think even though we have all
Georgie 49:34
most ascribe personal interest Yeah.
Geoff 49:37
I don't know. Maybe you can be indexed. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe Maybe they maybe if I went to Simplecast and just searched like ageing cheese. Does it actually come up with one of our episodes? We
Georgie 49:48
sure we should find out. Hey, guys,
Geoff 49:51
this episode has gone on too long already. So thanks for listening to the rambles. If you You want to reach out to us will one day talk about again, or linktree but you can email us because our cave people Toast & Roast pod@gmail.com
Georgie 50:16
And you can find our episodes on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts and big link tree that will never have but tell that tell your friends about our podcast. Feel like I don't want my podcast is like word of mouth. Yeah.
Geoff 50:34
And new episodes every Monday. So see you next
Georgie 50:39
week.
Geoff 50:40
Bye