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Geoff 0:09
And welcome back to another episode of test and roast. I'm, of course, your co host Geoff. And as always, I'm here with my co host Georgie. Of course, I nailed it that.
Georgie 0:20
Of course,
Geoff 0:23
it's totally scripted. It's
Georgie 0:24
the only part that's yeah.
Geoff 0:26
Now we were just looking at like, our last episodes, and I realized like, oh, the last episode did pretty well comparatively. Wait,
Georgie 0:36
you mean the one from like, five days
Geoff 0:41
ago? Yeah. I mean the
Georgie 0:44
Oh, wow,
Geoff 0:45
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, high tea and the chain of secrets. I think, I think it's because of the Harry Potter reference. People are really disappointed by the
Georgie 0:58
lack of I don't think we've talked about this. Are you actually a fan of Harry Potter? Or are you not a fan?
Geoff 1:06
I'm I'm probably like, yeah, I guess I am not okay. I like him. I don't think I hate anything
Georgie 1:17
the person who invents you in,
Geoff 1:24
oh, that's kind of like a Pandora's Chamber of Secrets.
Georgie 1:28
So you would say you're a fan, yeah? I
Geoff 1:31
don't, I don't really care about things about this, yeah, I think I mentioned it's another podcast, yeah? Like, Elon Musk is inconsequential to me because he like, Sure, he, he's like a nutcase. But all genius, all geniuses are and all billionaires, I don't know if you can, otherwise they can't, my background, they're gonna come up on the audio. Even if you can't, I don't know there's,
Georgie 1:56
I can hear some wild stuff happen.
Geoff 1:59
Yeah? Maybe zoom, zoom, maybe zoom, yeah. Zoom will start this. Zoom will filter it out. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I feel like anyone's that needs that is really ultra successful has to be, you know, some kind of crazy person. Because, like, who would, who would, who would, uh, like, reduce the wages of all the of all the, like, warehouse workers just for the sake of profits. Because, I mean, that's how you get the case, like, kick someone else. Yeah, exactly. You have to be a certain level of nutcase to even conceive of an opportunity.
Georgie 2:38
What a house you are, yes, I do. Wait, can I guess? Pretty
Geoff 2:44
sure I do? Let me just bring it up, sure
Georgie 2:50
I know what mine is. So like, based on that, I want to try and guess what. I feel like you are either A, all right, I don't know, are you a Ravenclaw?
Geoff 3:04
I'm probably too balanced for anything we have.
Georgie 3:08
But do you actually know what yours is? Have you, like, looked,
Geoff 3:14
oh, I mean, like it's, you're a Gryffindor.
Georgie 3:16
So weird, right? Did I expect that I was gonna say
Geoff 3:22
gray gray squirrel is my veterans for some reason, and my wand is pine.
Georgie 3:30
Do you know what I am gonna think about it?
Geoff 3:35
I think you're, I think you're a Ravenclaw.
Georgie 3:42
Show is that just my fucking vibe?
Geoff 3:48
Yeah, I don't know. You read
Georgie 3:50
books. There was like 10 years of my life where I didn't read books. So I don't Is it just like being a very like intelligent but
Geoff 3:57
you can leave books, but the books never leave. Do you think I'm not intelligent because I'm Gryffindor
Georgie 4:05
books? Like, no, I don't read books.
Geoff 4:09
I do not read books. Yeah, I take the I take the Gryffindor way in and out of things like just head first, or I'll think about it. I think about it like it depends on the task. That's why I think I'm, like, a bit too balanced to be put in any one house, because I could make a Slytherin move, yeah, if you could put me in the right situation, like most board games, I'm probably chaotic. You are that would probably put me soon, yeah, so that might put me into a saliva in for board games, but during work, I'm probably more like, oh. It's a very dangerous game, trying to think of what housing design systems, I
Georgie 5:05
think like, it's like, Oh, my God, I don't want to bring this up, but I'm going to, but, you know, the Myers, Briggs Personality Test, it's like, you like, yeah, not like, people can change. People have more nuance than like, you know, and to box Some, yeah, 100% it's kind of a way to box someone in. Although, when I first found out about the Myers Briggs, I was like, Oh, what a way. Like, we're humans, right? We love to label, categorize and stuff. But then over time, I'm like, this keeps changing. This can't be correct. I know that I'm always like, introverted in those kinds of quizzes, but then again, right? I think we might have talked about this like, I'll do talks at conferences and stuff, and people will talk to me afterwards, and I'll be like, Oh yeah, I'm very introverted. I like talking to people, and they're like, but you do public speaking? I'm like, You don't understand public speaking is not, like, specifically extroversion, just because you talk in front of a group of people.
Geoff 6:10
Yeah? I mean, it's, it's like a performance more so
Georgie 6:14
you could be like, you're more or less acting in a certain way that people expect you to Yeah,
Geoff 6:22
yeah. I mean, like, if you want to take a pure definition of extroversion, is gaining energy from other people, like being around people gives you energy, versus introversion, which is being around, okay, but
Georgie 6:35
is it or Yes?
Geoff 6:39
I mean interacting or like exchanging as an exchanging, sometimes
Georgie 6:43
when I'm ice, when I'm by myself, I actually feel kind of like lonely, but what I need is to, like, sit like in a park where there are people just around, like, I get like, a bit of energy from an environment that has something going on. See, even, even there's definitely, like, I will not want to interact with those people in the park. It's just, I just want to be amongst or, like, at a concert, right? Like you don't? You may not, I don't think, yeah, you're just there to enjoy that, but you also didn't give a shit about anybody else, really,
Geoff 7:19
yeah, I think I'm like, an ambivert. If you, if you take is that even that's like, a very neutral stance, like Amber, version is both introversion, extroversion, but I think I tend towards introversion as well, because, yeah, like, like, we're going back to the example of you speaking in front of people. It's, it's like a performance. You're actually speaking to yourself, really, no
Georgie 7:49
one's you need a topic.
Geoff 7:52
You're monologuing. Yeah, yeah. So, so people aren't asking you questions, and therefore sapping your energy by having to think about questions and ask, answering them or engaging conversation. It's like Twitter. Most of the people on Twitter are introverts, yeah, so like, you can't attribute extroversion to just because you speak to people. But yeah, I don't know
Georgie 8:22
where chaos, like, what I am based on this, it's so man, okay,
Geoff 8:29
what's the alignment test? Here we go. Oh, shit, you're gonna do it. All right, whoa. This is, like, this is, like, way too many things. It's like 36 questions here. All right, if, all right. I mean, all right, but it is a DND. It's a D, by the way, it's a D, and D, which is Dungeons and Dragons, has this alignment test, alignment of local good, chaotic good.
Georgie 8:56
Three by Is it a three by seven grid that you can sort of visualize on? It's like good to eat and then
Geoff 9:02
good to evil and lawful, neutral, chaotic, yeah, it's a three by three grid. So family elders are expressing a disapproval of you to the rest of the family. Do you accept the criticism and change your ways? Seek and comp seek a compromise with them, besmirch the reputation of those expressing disapproval as you ignore their scorn or silence them, anywhere you
Georgie 9:29
have to pick the one that best suits,
Geoff 9:32
yeah, what would you do if family elders are expressing disapproval of you?
Georgie 9:37
I feel like when I was younger, I would have just been like seeker compromise, but now I'm a bit like, yeah, what are we so what is the difference between silencing? Silence is like evil that sounds. Now I'm going to just besmirch the reputation. I will ignore their scorn that sounds, that sounds, ignore the scorn.
Geoff 9:59
Yeah. Yeah, all right. I mean, with every one of these things, I think mostly intelligent people would be able to pick the one that will give them the best alignment like they want. The alignment you want is obviously in these questions, which is why it's really interesting to interview like this, they will give you a, like, a personality test, or like an IQ test, and I'm just like, personality test, yeah, for a job, and I can swing this anywhere. Yeah, you can seriously. The very answer is, yeah, yeah, ignore your co workers or like or accept feedback. Like accept feedback, not gonna ignore them. Would you give up a promising career to aid the family in time of need? Yes, in a heartbeat, yes, with some reluctance, only if I were certain I'd be able to return to my career soon. No, um, but
Georgie 11:02
I don't know. The thing is, like, I'm thinking, like, I've got money, so like, I had to stop working for a bit to help my fam. Then I'd be like, Yeah, sure. But
Geoff 11:16
sure. I mean, like, is it one of the top two? Then, in a heartbeat, or Yes, with someone,
Georgie 11:21
I feel like I'm giving up a career. No, I'd be okay. Only how certain I'd be able to return my career soon the other day.
Geoff 11:29
Okay, that's that's just as fair. Yeah, okay, would you portray a family member to advance your own career? I'd resist the temptation, and I find, and I find the very idea, if I could do secretly,
Georgie 11:49
the thing is, it's not a
Geoff 11:50
temptation. Would you backstab a family member? Would you? Yeah, it's not a temptation. It's true. It's like, it's like an option, but it's like, whose passion are we
Georgie 12:03
talking about, Mom and Dad? Are we talking about?
Geoff 12:05
I mean, how much are we are we talking about advancing my own career? Like, does it really significantly improve it? Because then, then there's temptation, right? You could become like CTO. Like, imagine if you wanted to become CTO and you had to sacrifice the family member, yeah.
Georgie 12:22
Or, like, yeah, you know.
Geoff 12:26
Or your family member has the job you want, and you have to, like, like, do back channel shit, to back stab them to get their job. See,
Georgie 12:34
the thing is, it really depends on the family member. If it was my brother, I'd be like, anyone for my brother? I'd be like, I find the idea of borrowing for like, Oh my God, I hope my family,
Geoff 12:46
your parents, your parents, you'd just be like, without its winter guilt.
Georgie 12:52
That's my direct family, right beyond that,
Geoff 12:55
okay, well, let's, let's, let's do direct family. Just to keep the scope, find the idea about, if you, if you, if you don't find it for some of your family, but you do find it for some of the other family, then I think, go with the idea of porn, right? Do you respect the Elder, the leaders of your family? Like says,
Georgie 13:19
leaders? Well, my Nick and I are, by the way. Sidebar, people have said, like, some people think that you have to have children that have a family. But that's not true, right? You can. You are considered that family. Like, if you have a partner, you have dog, pets, whatever, etc. So anyway,
Geoff 13:35
yeah, I mean, like, as soon as you, like, branch away from you, like your main family, you've chosen your own family, even if it's a bunch of friends, you could call them your family. I don't think family is blood related. So do you respect the leaders of your main branch
Georgie 13:56
family? They're role models for me. They're often out of touch with my life. They're out of touch with reality. Look, they're out of touch with my life.
Geoff 14:05
All Asian parents, often my life, but
Georgie 14:11
with reality, it's a bit more okay,
Geoff 14:13
yeah, yeah, yeah, often, often, lots of people don't understand what we do in life. Why are we spending so much money on this thing? Why aren't you investing in a house? Why are you What do you do for a job?
Georgie 14:30
I don't know, but sometimes, yeah, generational, generation, I
Geoff 14:34
think a lot of people don't Yeah, yeah. And we're like, dealing with maybe people in very different walks of or like career, and they have their own ladder, and we have our own ladder, and that just kind of doesn't make sense in most cases. Any case, if your family had arranged your marriage as someone loathsome, would you go through it? Agree? How? In your reluctance, subtly work against the Union fleet.
Georgie 15:03
They wouldn't arrange like I just I'm not in that. I've never been there. Yeah,
Geoff 15:07
if your family had arranged, let's look I flee either scenario, your family arrange especially
Georgie 15:15
for someone loads like this, yeah?
Geoff 15:19
Yeah. You're estranged from a family member on his deathbed. He seeks reconciliation. Do you speak to him? But hold your ground. Refuse to speak to him. Discuss your estrangement openly, without rancor. Is that? Is it like ran? I don't even know what that is it like can die? Yeah, let's find out. Because ran ransa rancor were large, semi sentiment, Reptilians, although they were English, meaning, here we go. Ranker ranso, okay, here we go, rancor. So cheat a feeling of hate and continuing anger about something in the past. So, so it's a chip, chip on your shoulder, without chip on your shoulder, or actively secret,
Georgie 16:19
if you ask me, right now, I'd be more like, Oh no, I fuck off. I don't know. It's
Geoff 16:27
like, your cousin, just like, estranged and dies, and then, like, on his deathbed, he like, I want,
Georgie 16:33
yeah. The thing is, I do have a couple of estranged family members, and I don't give a shit, to be honest with you, like there is, are you laughing? They're estranged for a they're estranged for a reason. They're estranged for a reason, and but it's not just me, it's other people in my family. And so look, as much as I want to. Would
Geoff 17:02
you refuse to speak to him? But then that's the general answer
Georgie 17:10
on your deathbed. I
Geoff 17:11
mean, I'm technically estranged from, from what I mean, I think, I think there's two types of estrangement, right? The one that you described is technically estranged, but you could also just be estranged from a family member with, without any like, malice, they just became,
Georgie 17:28
I don't think so. I think it's always when it's strange, it's like, it's usually a little bit negative, because of whether it's a situation like, it doesn't have to have malice, but it is
Geoff 17:39
caused to be unloved. Okay, okay, cause to be unloved because then that means you have to have a cause to be unloved if you're just like, No,
Georgie 17:48
this is not just ghosting, yeah, this is actually like some shit went down or something. So I'm gonna refuse to speak.
Geoff 17:56
Okay, okay, okay, fair enough. We're at 17 minutes. Okay, let's just, let's just do the speed. Round, speed, round off the top of your head, a powerful but corrupt judge offers you wealth if you'll testify against your friend. Do you condemn? Take the money and testify. Refuse the offer and refuse to testify and testify on your friend's behalf, no matter the consequences
Georgie 18:26
offers you will if you just testify. That's what did you say?
Geoff 18:33
Yeah, yeah, that's just Chris. I mean, no, I'm just a powerful, corrupt judge offers you wealth of you testify against your friend. He's falsely accused for murder for you to
Georgie 18:45
testify, because this is testify against your testify
Geoff 18:53
on your friends. Testify on your friend's behalf, no matter the consequences. So that means you're testifying for your friend.
Georgie 18:59
Says you testify? Oh, right,
Geoff 19:03
yeah, yeah. Testify on your friends, oh yeah, which means that you'll Yeah.
Georgie 19:08
Inside, that's important to me. Hopefully I don't die. Didn't say it was good.
Geoff 19:17
Do you become close? Do you become close to friends or hold most people at a safest I have,
Georgie 19:23
I'm gonna I have two close friends. Oh, I have some close friends, some or few. Which one's bigger? So some sounds bigger. So I'm gonna say I have some close
Geoff 19:36
some sounds bigger. Okay, yeah, I don't think. Have you ever betrayed a friend? I've done so once,
Georgie 19:48
once, like, literally, once. That's such a weird answer. Let's go with one, yeah.
Geoff 19:55
How do you view lifelong commitment to a single romantic partner? I mean. You're married,
Georgie 20:03
I have a one such a romance, yeah?
Geoff 20:04
I see those answers. I have all one such a romance, yeah, such a romance would be ideal. If this is you, you saying such a romance would be ideal if it's achievable. It's like a weird one, huge mistake. Do you insist on repayment when lending money difference? Yes, I write up a contract. Yes, I try to be flexible with the exact terms. No, although it's sure nice to be repaid, they just No,
Georgie 20:32
I'll go with no, no, which is good, nice to be repaid.
Geoff 20:38
Okay. Are you still in touch with your childhood friends?
Georgie 20:41
The thing is, it's like, there's, like, a couple of people. So it's, it's generally No, but it's not, it's not yet, yeah, yes, yes, the one that's most.
Geoff 20:52
I mean, childhood, childhood, it's not all of them, but maybe, okay,
Georgie 20:56
no, I don't have anything in common.
Geoff 21:02
Yeah, yeah. It's really tough, right? Childhood friends, you never know who they're going to be, yeah. Do you donate time and money to improve the local community? The second one, yes, I donate as much as I can once my own needs are met.
Georgie 21:17
Yes, that's correct.
Geoff 21:21
Okay, your community is threatened with invasion. Do you help defend it? To your last breath, defend the area with the rest of the community fully. As soon as things look grim, kind of deal with the enemy. Defend the area. I
Georgie 21:38
mean, as much as I want to say, gotta deal with the enemy. I just don't think I'd actually do it. I'd do it for like, the long
Geoff 21:48
if you were injured and required immediate assistance with members of your hometown
Georgie 21:51
or the town I live in.
Geoff 21:55
Hometown we were talking about inner west.
Georgie 21:58
Wait, hang on. You mean where I grew up or where I live now, because,
Geoff 22:02
yeah, like, Western hometown, that's where you grew up. Okay, fine, wherever. It was weird, though, this
Georgie 22:10
is weird. Okay, I'm just gonna go with Yes, because I'm generally well liked. Like, I mean,
Geoff 22:18
yeah, do you respect the laws and authorities of the community.
Georgie 22:26
Yes, then generally,
Geoff 22:27
the best way to which yes, do members of your hometown Shun, avoid or mock you, like you, you. You're now an east side this
Georgie 22:38
still says hometown. You know it's really, yeah,
Geoff 22:43
so would, would Westies Shun, avoid or mock you?
Georgie 22:48
No, I'm generally seen as normal. I mean, I'm weird, but, you know, I'm nothing too.
Geoff 22:56
Yeah, all right, we're halfway through. That's, that's, would you stand for office or seek to represent the interests of the community in some public manner? Really weird
Georgie 23:07
to do. So would be an honor I joyously accept. Yeah, let's go for that. Okay,
Geoff 23:16
so if someone came up to you and asked you to run for minister, Parliament, yeah,
Georgie 23:21
or, like, was it your local MP? I'd say, like, yeah, that's a good opportunity. Yeah.
Geoff 23:27
All right, your country is wrecked with famine. Famine. Would you share food you had with others? Eat as little as possible yourself and share the rest. Steal the food you need to survive. Steal as much, then sell it back to community,
Georgie 23:41
I would share what food I have with others.
Geoff 23:45
Share what food you have with others. If offered enough money, would you slip a poison into your King Street? So no,
Georgie 23:55
I would say no, and I'd warn the king of the plot. I would not do that for money.
Geoff 24:01
Yeah, a plague is sweeping across the country. Would you undertake a dangerous mission to find the cure, heal the sick as best you can, avoid contact with the sick, leave the country.
Georgie 24:14
Yeah? What I'm going off, right? Like, yeah, I just feel like, for me, I wouldn't heal. It's like, as much as I want to there it's I know, like stops coming out as I'm answering these questions. People aren't black and white, right?
Geoff 24:30
Yeah, do you respect the lawful authority of the rulers of the land? Yes. Long live the Queen. Now the king, our rulers are generally fair and just. A ruler is better, no better than anyone else. Rulers are invariably corrupt by power. I do agree
Georgie 24:50
with a ruler is no better than anyone else. Yeah, let's
Geoff 24:55
go with that. If you are offered a reason. Of a lucrative deal. Would you spy for a hostel? So Russia?
Georgie 25:09
Oh, man, so is this like? Do I want to be Edward Snowden?
Geoff 25:16
No, no. Never got offered a lucrative deal to spy. He was a whistleblower. That's the opposite. The
Georgie 25:25
thing is, like, in in a fantasy world, I'll be like yes, because the nation's secrets mean little to me. In the real world, I'd be like no, because I might get caught. Yeah,
Geoff 25:43
like this, this, this second No, because I'd never violate the I don't feel like the nation puts in me is very like, more moral high ground than Yeah, no, because I might get caught. It's just anxiety, I think. Yeah, do you rely on the government to enforce contracts and property.
Georgie 26:01
Are you kidding me the government that's just hilarious. If
Geoff 26:12
imprisoned, would you injure or kill others to escape?
Georgie 26:18
Why am I imprisoned? I
Geoff 26:24
uh, wrongfully imprisoned, rightfully imprisoned doesn't really matter. You want to escape, like you saw an opportunity and to escape, but you had to kill a guy.
Georgie 26:37
I mean, like I put up a fight if, they were wrong, but I wouldn't kill anyway. It just it doesn't seem right. Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 26:45
Do you accept the nobles right to treat badly the serfs who work on this? This is such an old timey question. No
Georgie 26:52
nobles should rule as kindly as possible. Or should I pick the last one? No one has any right to treat another badly period. Yeah, go with the last one.
Geoff 27:04
Okay, you accidentally committed a crime. Do you turn yourself in attempt to make restitution to the victim. Turn yourself in, throwing yourself on the mercy of the court, hide your involvement, lying, if you had to, and try pin the crime on another, like your family member.
Georgie 27:19
But what kind of crime is this? Did I accidentally kill some No, I'm gonna turn myself in. I throw myself in the mercy, oh, which wait mercy of the court. Because I'll just be honest, and people can be like, Oh, okay, then she fucked up, or,
Geoff 27:39
yeah, accidentally guilty. If guilty, would you confess to a crime?
Georgie 27:49
What crime is this like? Did I shoplift like a Diet Coke, or did I like,
Geoff 27:54
I think you killed someone? The thing is, I mean guilty means you would have had to have intended to kill that person, but you're guilty, basically, but yeah, you're I mean, any guilty, any guilt, but you're guilty of a crime. Well, yeah, what
Georgie 28:14
I think crime?
Geoff 28:15
Let's go with top five, like theft.
Georgie 28:19
Crime sounds matter. Okay, so I'll say, Yeah, but is it my duty to do so? Because I don't really care about the sentence, it is just, I guess it's my duty to do so. So I'll just say, Yes, it's my duty to do so.
Geoff 28:36
Okay, would you express a revolutionary political opinion if threatened,
Georgie 28:43
if someone threatened to punish me, would I say something to avoid being
Geoff 28:50
Oh, yeah. I mean, if someone said, Oh, any opinions other than these three are acceptable, otherwise you're gonna be threatened with punishment. So
Georgie 29:00
revolution of Britain,
Geoff 29:01
like suggesting UBI is the way to go. Threaten. Threat like a punishable offense, to actually suggest UBI.
Georgie 29:10
See, let's, I don't know. I want to say, No, politics aren't worth getting worked up about, because I do feel that way.
Geoff 29:20
What do you do at work? Yes, somebody's
Georgie 29:21
got to speak the truth.
Geoff 29:25
Just Yes, exactly. Oh, wait, it first. Oh
Georgie 29:29
no, it froze on my quiz. No, wait, oh no, quiz. Or is it the screen share?
Geoff 29:38
Yeah, did everything else. Stop the screen share. Oh no.
Georgie 29:45
Chaotic good.
Geoff 29:51
Maybe if I, if I, oh back. All right, what is my oh no, by before. Clicking make sure JavaScript isn't labeled and pop up. Windows are allowed.
Georgie 30:06
No way is it working?
Geoff 30:11
No. I bet if I refresh, it will go away. Oh,
Georgie 30:15
you will remember my answers.
Geoff 30:18
Oops. Oh, here we go. Oh, it's back. It works now. Hey, who knew that these developers would actually use local cache or like, yeah, or what's it called? What
Georgie 30:33
was my answer?
Geoff 30:38
Yeah, while traveling, you witness an assault, you're ordered to testify, which will delay your travel significantly to you remain until the child in case for the testimony is needed. What is the best use of what do you think Jess to help the destitute and less fortunate provide the needs of friends and family to stay on top of the heap, yourself to not only stay on top but keeps everyone from climbing up, provide
Georgie 31:09
for the needs of friends and family. Oh yes, selfish self love.
Geoff 31:16
When, when confronted by beggars, do you? Well,
Georgie 31:22
it's really hard, right? Yeah? Because if I have money, I give moderate. We've talked
Geoff 31:29
about it apart a little bit I think,
Georgie 31:31
um,
Geoff 31:32
yeah, the the logistics of giving to the point I
Georgie 31:37
give to beggars. I don't carry cash, right? Like, so I just gotta give moderate, yeah,
Geoff 31:44
okay, by using magic, you could fool the village merchants into thinking your copper pieces were made of gold. Do you? Yes, I'll buy as much as I can. Yes, I'll only cheat the rich merchants. No, it's too risky. No, those merchants have families defeat. Wait,
Georgie 32:00
as in, do you? Do you fool them? No,
Geoff 32:06
oh, yeah, it's too risky.
Georgie 32:09
A lot of money. Oh,
Geoff 32:11
I mean, like, you can change your copper pieces to be made of gold. So you can, essentially, yeah, you can buy, you can buy something with a copper piece. More like, okay, so he could manually make $1 $100
Georgie 32:28
bill. Oh, no, those merchants have family's feet,
Geoff 32:33
all right. Oh, by the way, I think this assumes that fooling the village mentions into thinking a couple of pieces in there. So you're fooling someone that $1 bill is actually $100 bill, but they'll find out later that it's only $1 bill. Like you, you like, put extra zeros, and that's memes.
Georgie 32:50
Did I pick the one? Yeah, yeah. Thank
Geoff 32:54
you people. You had two job offers. One pays more, but the other is secure and steady, which, I mean,
Georgie 33:01
this happened to me in the past, where I was either like, pick a con. Happens every day to me, I was like, a contract, pick a steady thing. And I don't know my ass just picked the steady one.
Geoff 33:14
Yeah, secured the secure job, unless the other job lucrative, or definitely the secure job, all right, what is the best path to wealth? Oh,
Georgie 33:27
the right time, staying flexible so you can take advantage of following a long term plan that comfortable or is hard work and perseverance.
Geoff 33:40
It didn't really have the, what were you gonna say hoping for? I do. I mean, I mean you, you have, like, an, yeah, incredible, let's say incredible. Save, yeah, saving,
Georgie 33:52
no, it's not great. I'm not. It was, like, for a while it was very anti risk. I guess you could say yes, because I don't like the long term plan answer, because I don't plan shit. But it says, What's the best part of me, what path I take? It's what I think,
Geoff 34:10
Oh, you think is the best path so
Georgie 34:14
you can take advantage of good opportunities. I'm not. The matter of luck. Thing is, I mean, I made a YouTube channel in 2008
Geoff 34:24
this is I put 100 Bitcoin on a hard drive, and I lost the hard drive. I guess, like assuming that your goal in life is to have wealth that this would apply to you. But that's just it. All right. Last question, if you accepted a job or contract, would you try to finish the task, even if it got you got much more dangerous, even if it got much more dangerous? Yes, my word is my bond. Yes, because it's good to have a reputation for dependability. You can bet I'd been. Renegotiating. If there's no I suppose maybe they you can like, oh, they want you to. They want you to do extra responsibilities outside of your contract. By the way,
Georgie 35:17
I'm What about to say views of mine, not of that of my employer, but if we say dangerous equals detrimental to my mental health, I don't know. I don't really care to renegotiate. So I just be like, if it's no longer a good deal, then the deal is off. I guess.
Geoff 35:35
Yeah, yeah. I think, I think my maybe a different analogous situation would be all right, so we're in a service team, so generally, what we do doesn't actually affect the applications or customers as much as what other people do. Yeah, it's no risk technically involved in what we do. So if the risk factor became increased like anything I do would affect customers that would be a bit more dangerous. Or, like, if I was asked to write software for eye laser surgery or something like that, like, yeah, yeah, that's dangerous, right? I'm a UI person. What am I doing building lasers? But yeah, if because no longer Okay, what's your
Georgie 36:20
I think. Okay, so first of all, I feel like I'm neutral. I feel like maybe lawful good, I don't know. Oh, my God, I am lawful good.
Geoff 36:37
Oh my god, you were so on the precipice of chaotic good and lawful mutual. Yeah, I
Georgie 36:44
feel like I feel like I want to, nah, yeah,
Geoff 36:50
a lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. They combine a commitment to oppose evil and with the discipline to fight relentlessly, they tell the truth, keep their word, helps those in need, speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished. Lawful good is the best alignment you can be because it combines honor compassion. Have a lawful good can be dangerous alignment when it restricts freedom and criminalizes that
Georgie 37:23
does actually sound like me.
Geoff 37:28
So there's your dragons character, yeah.
Georgie 37:31
So you are lawful neutral. Well, you are, no,
Geoff 37:35
I think I'm chaotic neutral. I mean, you're two points away from being chaotic neutral. So I mean, and I think I mean, my, my when I did this last or rather, when I, when I was given this, I don't think I ever did a test like this. Wait, hang on. Wait, I have lawful anyways, when I did it,
Georgie 37:56
that's a lot, is it?
Geoff 38:00
Yeah, it's like 10 points away. But when I did this last I thought I was chaotic neutral. I'm probably a different person there than I did it. So there you go, the alignment system, chaotic, lawful, whatever alignment test is free and available. Yeah, put, put that in your Myers Briggs. I mean this, this predates Myers Briggs. I'm pretty sure, like the Dungeons and Dragons have has been a long game. Well, I'm Gryffindor, and I am also chaotic neutral. Wait, what is chaotic usual? Didn't really read it. Kagi uh, follows his whims. His individualist, first and last, values his own liberty, but doesn't, doesn't strive to protect others. You are, you are, can avoid authority, resents restrictions, challenges traditions. Man, this is a KL neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated by either by good, the desire to live by others, or evil desire to make those different from himself suffer. A neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. He's not as likely to jump as to cross it. Okay? It? See, it's the best alignment because it represents true freedom from from both society's restrictions and zeal. Is it? Zella, so yeah, seeks alignment, seeks to seeks to eliminate all authority.
Georgie 39:49
Yeah, that's very huge.
Geoff 39:55
Like I said in board games, I'm probably way more chaotic neutral than I
Georgie 39:59
am. The point of board games kind of is, like, sometimes you are a different like, you're playing a character. Like, I
Geoff 40:06
mean, yeah, so I mean, like, yeah, board games technically put you in a really different situation than life. They like strict rules. You can only do these amount of things. They're kind of geared in some way. Some board games are geared towards like conflict, so they make you actively conflict with other people eventually, like, you can never be good forever.
Georgie 40:36
Otherwise, yeah, you got to have different.
Geoff 40:42
Can't just like, oh, I'll just build my thing over here. Or maybe some games do do that, but you'll be able to, you build your thing over there, and we'll just tally up the points and we built the best thing. It's like Jenga, I guess you can. You can try and, like, avoid each other for as long as possible, until one move. I
Georgie 40:59
mean, it's like, the concept of heaven, right? Like, everyone is supposed to be good, but, like, that's kind of Yes, dull, good place, if everyone is just Yeah,
Geoff 41:13
yeah, then you can, like, subdivide, right? Who are the best at being good and who are the least at being good, because you can't all be good,
Georgie 41:22
yeah? It's like a spectrum,
Geoff 41:28
yeah. But so someone like, oh, I heavily donate to the poor, but at the same time they they gain their money in a very questionable way, like they're stealing from the rich and give giving to them. That's what we
Georgie 41:43
should do. Everyone should do that.
Geoff 41:48
But what if there's no
Georgie 41:50
you're like a middle man for the rich, right? The rich could just donate to the poor, but if they don't, you could just be like, I'll take that from you and give it to
Geoff 41:58
Yeah, but then I gotta live. Myself. So I gotta be I gotta take some tax so, so, yeah, I gotta steal some for myself. Yeah, that's
Georgie 42:06
why you're chaotic neutral.
Geoff 42:12
I don't so it do. I think it's good that you that someone making profits off something, maybe not so good in the real world, all right, other people is good in the real world, yeah? So, like, you're an oil baron, for example, and you, but you donate heavily to to Wait, isn't this food and water offsetting Uganda or whatever is? Yeah, I guess so. I don't, I never looked at the like, just like, Yeah,
Georgie 42:41
I'm an airline or whatever. Here I am. Blah blah carbon emission. Yeah, I'll
Geoff 42:45
just give you some carbon credits, and everything's good, right? We're all equal here. But yeah, so I don't think, I don't think it's it leans towards more bad than good in my in my world view, like you could also not do the thing that you're making money from and make less money, and that would also be good. Like you don't have to specifically be humanitarian good, but you could be, I mean, in a way, you are humanitarian good if you stop doing the thing that makes you the most money, like sweatshirt, for example, but then you go into, like, economics, right? Okay, so if you're not money is involved, if you don't have enough money, yeah, I mean, if you don't have enough money to pay, like, 100 sweatshop workers of reasonable pay, then you got to cut down to 50 so that you can get the 50%
Speaker 1 43:46
a reasonable wage, and then now 50 people don't have jobs. Makes me think of like, not familiar politics, but it's like there's people who record videos of like, donating to the poor, and this feel good. Yeah.
Georgie 43:58
It's just like a Mr. Bis phenomenon
Geoff 44:02
influencer? Yeah, I think
Georgie 44:06
help the person, or give them money or whatever. Why do you have to film this where? What is the reason?
Geoff 44:17
Yeah, I mean, I guess I see it like from both sides, right? If you don't film it and you don't monetize it, then you can't continue giving money, but actually filming it and monetizing it is kind of
Georgie 44:27
it's also like, what are you earning? Yeah, like money aside. Are you doing that to look good in the face of other like, other people watching? Or do you do it out of the goodness of your own heart, right? Like, I I've donated to, like, go fund me some stuff where people have, like, needed more money than me, and I don't go, like, parading around, going, Hey everybody, look, I did this. I
Geoff 44:55
10 steps to donating one GoFundMe, then you just monetize that. Yeah, I just don't do anything that's like, you're so neutral. You just, yeah, okay, chaotic neutral, yeah, I can't be criticized for something or do do? Have I donated to people who knows, have I not also who knows? It's just, it just is and never was at the same time. Anyways, you know what? Never was the ending of this episode. So you can find us on none of the social media because, of course, we're both a little chaotic neutral. We don't want to. How can you be
Georgie 45:48
social media in social media?
Geoff 45:54
That's a that's a really good question for another time, but you can, but you can email us on toast, first episodes
Georgie 46:02
on Apple. Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big neutral spectra of neutralness,
Geoff 46:15
yeah, would there be? I mean, would would Gandhi or Buddha be like absolute neutral? You no one is you have to be one or the other. And new episodes every Monday, so see you next
Unknown Speaker 46:31
week. Bye.