Toast & Roast

131: Overpriced storage

Episode Summary

Glorified travel-friendly containers, dissing on the practicality of the Stanley cup, and electric vehicle charging woes.

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Glorified travel-friendly containers, dissing on the practicality of the Stanley cup, and electric vehicle charging woes.

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Georgie  0:07  

Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I'm your co host, Georgie and I almost forgot my intro. And I'm here with Jeff.

 

Geoff  0:17  

The times when we forget ourselves are here.

 

Georgie  0:21  

How can you? Bullshit? dissociating? I'm just like an out of body experience,

 

Geoff  0:29  

I got asked to actually insure myself, because we reorganized, and they're doing like, three people's interest per all, like camp, all hands were whatever. Like, we have six teams in the camp. So I got asked to introduce myself. And I was like, I really hate introducing myself for some reason.

 

Georgie  0:52  

I know you do, though. Yeah. Like, I feel like we've talked about. I don't mind it, as long as you're telling me. Or I'm prepared.

 

Geoff  1:01  

Yeah. I mean, like, they they basically told me less than 24 hours before.

 

Georgie  1:10  

Like, 24 hours.

 

Geoff  1:11  

It is, it is high. And, you know, my my friends will probably say that I I like talking about myself a lot. And probably the podcasts can give you a percentage.

 

Georgie  1:26  

You're not talking about yourself. Just as Jeff is like, talks 54% of the time. That's true.

 

Geoff  1:32  

It's not. It's not normally about myself, I guess. I'm generally a talkative person. But I don't like introducing myself. It's just like a weird thing.

 

Georgie  1:46  

I say what do you go to the formula that you go to when?

 

Geoff  1:51  

Not really because I don't know. I don't do it very often. But

 

Georgie  1:58  

what about the fun fact thing when someone says say a fun fact? Yeah, surely you don't have just one random one.

 

Geoff  2:05  

The The interesting thing is like I've tried doing a boring fact instead. Oh, yeah. I think you did mention Yeah, asking people about that boring. Boring fact. I eat chips with my chopsticks.

 

Georgie  2:20  

That's not boring.

 

Geoff  2:21  

I mean, it's not it's not like, it's not like, I climbed like Mount Everest.

 

Georgie  2:29  

Is it like a mundane? Yeah,

 

Geoff  2:32  

it's like, what what you think is a mundane thing. But I know that people will have a strong reaction whenever they see me eat chopsticks. So it's probably mildly interesting.

 

Georgie  2:45  

It's not boring enough, Joe. That's what I was thinking in my head. What's my boring fact? I just say I'm a morning person.

 

Geoff  2:56  

That is pretty boring.

 

Georgie  3:01  

I was born in Australia is pretty boring.

 

Geoff  3:03  

Oh, that's really surprising. So because your complexion says that you were born elsewhere? No.

 

Georgie  3:11  

Way is because I'm not.

 

Geoff  3:15  

Good. You're Asian.

 

Georgie  3:18  

Yeah, but my accent is so Australian that I feel like no one's going to be surprised that I was born here. Maybe people still do have like, preconceived. It's true that it's true that people just

 

Geoff  3:28  

like Yeah, it's true.

 

Georgie  3:34  

Yeah, you know, when I was really young, and then still have adopted a very Australian accent.

 

Geoff  3:40  

Yeah, I know that. I know. It's I know that people find it surprising that I wasn't born in an English speaking country.

 

Georgie  3:47  

That doesn't surprise me anymore. I think yeah, maybe I'm trying to remember I was even surprised.

 

Geoff  3:55  

Well, you get that oh, that like I don't know how many times it's actually happened to me, but they say someone says Your English is good.

 

Georgie  4:07  

What the funny thing is do people are listening this podcast who don't really know us very well. Do they actually know what our background is?

 

Geoff  4:16  

That's true. This is we're talking about that background stuff. So I guess we can reintroduce ourselves.

 

Georgie  4:20  

Okay, fine.

 

Geoff  4:26  

Bye. Hey, introducing myself, so let's not do that. We had a whole first episode on Yeah, you can listen to the first episode. It's like we need adoption strategies. Where we like push people to

 

Georgie  4:46  

your least favorite well

 

Geoff  4:49  

I don't know. I can't even remember our last episode to have at least favorite off the

 

Georgie  4:53  

earplugs in the air pods falling out of ideas. Oh, right is that should be up All right, in fact, I have tiny ears and buying like in ear headphones sucks. Yeah,

 

Geoff  5:06  

I mean, I just bought the air pods for and they're, they're coming soon.

 

Georgie  5:10  

Also you did so you ended up going with those did you try? You didn't try it. You're just gonna you're going to try them and then well I

 

Geoff  5:17  

bought it off Amazon because they had like some discounts and stuff so yeah, so I can return it still. But yeah, I didn't actually try it in store I feel like it's we're trying in year, like in years at a store. No as in like they they obviously let other people try in years. They're letting you try and use sewing

 

Georgie  5:39  

to I would assume that they

 

Geoff  5:43  

are still weird.

 

Georgie  5:44  

So last week, we talked about this, I actually know this.

 

Geoff  5:49  

We talked last

 

Georgie  5:50  

episode, we talked about the loop earplugs, and they have like 100 day return policy. So if you don't like them, you can return them as my thought was what do you do with like all of different silicone tips that you've tried the earplugs and do they clean them? And I guess no, no, the thing is there's like bio what is it called Bio something silicone that they use for like reusable cups and things like that that can go in the dishwasher. And they go I don't know, you probably don't know this, Jeff. But you know, period products like there's there's menstrual cups that are made from like I said, like a medical grade, I guess. Yeah. And so the way that you disinfect those after each menstrual cycle is you put it in a pot of boiling water and just boil it for several

 

Geoff  6:41  

minutes. Wait,

 

Georgie  6:43  

so I knew you did. No, no, I did.

 

Geoff  6:50  

Yeah, I use menstrual cups for a totally different purpose.

 

Georgie  6:53  

I wish the song like comedian talk about it. And she said she was on a plane when she needed to disinfect hers. And it was lovely. And joke. I don't know if anyone has actually done this. They asked the flight attendant for the cabin crew for like a cup of boiling water. They're just dipping.

 

Geoff  7:11  

Okay, so So clearly I don't know what the how to use this thing. But am I correct in assuming that it's a it's like a cup you place below and then like, menstruation goes in it?

 

Georgie  7:22  

Yeah, so it's like, it's like a tampon, so it goes in the same way that a tampon would and it collects.

 

Geoff  7:28  

inside and then yeah, and then you

 

Georgie  7:30  

empty the cup. It is a if you menstruate it is what for me? Anyway, it was what he called a life changing.

 

Geoff  7:37  

Oh, yeah. Like day to day, the day is life changing?

 

Georgie  7:45  

All right, in the white Yeah. In the way that it changes your like routine and different that yet? Yeah. But interestingly enough, like a lot of other things, like, like, airports and

 

Geoff  7:57  

things you shove in holes, things you put in

 

Georgie  8:00  

places, right? It's very personal. So there are different kinds of menstrual cups. And you might find some brands or some like styles more comfortable than others.

 

Geoff  8:09  

Yeah, all I know about menstrual products is that leaving a tampon in is really bad because you can get toxic shock syndrome.

 

Georgie  8:18  

Yeah, I feel like that's not always linked to tampons, so it can be linked to other things. It's just common.

 

Geoff  8:26  

Anyway, speaking about daily routines, what's this?

 

Georgie  8:29  

Oh, yeah. So there's this thing called cadence, which I found and now the rant that I want to have is, do you want to guess how much it costs to ship here?

 

Geoff  8:39  

probably cost more than the product itself? Like maybe like $150 to ship?

 

Georgie  8:45  

It wasn't that bad was half of that. So? Yeah, I had to put that stuff in my cart. And then put my details in to be able to know how much it costs to ship for

 

Geoff  8:56  

Yeah, I mean, like, say five US dollars to add is no, you're right. Yeah. When you It's like $112. So

 

Georgie  9:04  

it might I think it might have already converted it to AUD when I wow, that's interesting. Though, even with that, I did not feel like it was worth it. And then I left the website. So this company called cadence does have a good story behind them that they they basically create small TSA approved like, contained reusable containers for your toiletries and other liquids. Like what do you call what do you call it? I say toiletries, what is it like? Yeah, I

 

Geoff  9:39  

suppose it not really got

 

Georgie  9:40  

off appeals and that your essentials, your essentials, like you're saying? Yeah, yeah. And they're very nicely designed. You can say they like hexagonal shape. And exactly

 

Geoff  9:50  

like nibbles. They split apart. Yeah.

 

Georgie  9:55  

And there's different tiles for the label them And you can actually interchange the tiles as well. So it's very nice if

 

Geoff  10:06  

you like, it's nice. It's very modular. It's, like, modern, and, like convenient. And very, like styled. Yeah.

 

Georgie  10:19  

And like the grateful like, carry on. Luggage, if you need to keep all your liquids under certain.

 

Geoff  10:28  

Your system. I feel like these, these are actually a bit awkward. Okay, if you get different heights, I think they stick together because they're magnetic. And so you've got, you've got basically a bunch of these together to lock a long tube, and then you're sticking it in your baggage. That makes sense. I guess if you don't want things rolling around or bad bag that has toiletries in it.

 

Georgie  10:59  

Think it's like because they're all the same size, right? Normally, I would reuse small, like, sample containers for some of this stuff. Yeah. My toiletries and things. And they were all just different shapes, little bottles.

 

Geoff  11:14  

way they have iconography versions.

 

Georgie  11:17  

There's not many there's like a hot one and appeal one. Yeah.

 

Geoff  11:21  

I was like an eye mask and a sunscreen. Cream. Yeah. What's the heart for your heart condition.

 

Georgie  11:31  

That's what the whatever you want.

 

Geoff  11:32  

The favorite one. It's like your favorite. Your favorite cream. Whatever it is. Blank

 

Georgie  11:38  

wants to you know, be funny is just get a bunch of 12 blank ones. Yes. Yes, the most.

 

Geoff  11:45  

So so so let me get this. Let me get this straight. You've paid a 130.

 

Georgie  11:49  

I don't want to like yeah, like imagine,

 

Geoff  11:53  

imagine you'd buy this and you're like, you spend 134 US dollars plus, possibly. And you've bought all blanks. And you just you just decide decimated the one. One defining factor of buying this system is that you can label

 

Georgie  12:11  

or you can write your own Can you customize.

 

Geoff  12:17  

I mean, writing your own makes sense. Wait, I have to select a color for each one of those colors if you Okay. It seems like oh my god. Oh. Why did it turn? Oh my god. I can double clicking on it turns everything blue. Oh, wait, labels? I don't think you can rename them.

 

Georgie  12:41  

So you either go blank or you pick one of their pre exam ones. Yeah.

 

Geoff  12:47  

Oh, sizes I was thinking about if they like decide the size for you know,

 

Georgie  12:52  

you get to pick Yeah, I think it's because the labels you can change. Yeah. So if you decide you want to take more like eyemask you pick and you want to swap into a bigger container, you can just change the label on it. Just use this magnets, I think I

 

Geoff  13:07  

guess domestic you can take more than you can take on internet. So

 

Georgie  13:12  

this is the thing, right? If if I was domestic, I wouldn't give a shit. I just take my Lodge. Yeah, like what's the limit? 100 mils or whatever it is? The bottle? Yeah, just take them to the Yeah, I wouldn't bother putting all of the contents into these small containers. Yeah. And when they give you an estimate of like how much each of those containers like depending on the consistency of the product, oh, this might have in the on the information icon if you hover says, oh,

 

Geoff  13:39  

so accessibility to people. Accessibility fact. Number one, Tool Tips Do not should not contain critical information that your customer you're

 

Georgie  13:50  

absolutely right. And I fully agree and I hate to do it. Have them by like clicking on them rather than hover. But still Yeah,

 

Geoff  14:00  

exactly. In fact, number two about tooltips good just because we've built we've built a tilted recently. Yes. Hover, it should not be the primary. Like the only way of accessing the

 

Georgie  14:13  

keyboard. Yeah. See the tooltip Yeah,

 

Geoff  14:17  

cuz a not everyone uses a MAS B. You can't hover on a phone. So yeah.

 

Georgie  14:24  

Be able to tap on it. Yeah, like, does it you have to test

 

Geoff  14:32  

it's too much work already.

 

Georgie  14:34  

I just go straight to the keyboard.

 

Geoff  14:36  

I know. Like talking about work. I already work. Anyway, so you wanted to rant about this. Why?

 

Georgie  14:47  

Because I liked the concept and it's it's women owned and they use recycled plastic and so on and it's it's nice like a you get

 

Geoff  15:01  

yeah it's nice for you

 

Georgie  15:02  

I put the shit in the car because I don't know if it's worth it so I went to their store locator because I'm going to the US

 

Geoff  15:12  

at some point cough cough can I can you become my meal can I get some you want some of these? No not some of these

 

Georgie  15:22  

but I was looking and they sell them at like The Container Store in the US but the Container Store seems to be one of those kind of stores that are only in the in the burbs you know you know when there's like you know what we have that I feel like it's early in the burbs it's shit like Kmart Kmart in the CBD or as like some of the US would say downtown.

 

Geoff  15:47  

Yeah. I mean, yeah, must be w downtown now.

 

Georgie  15:51  

We do now because they haven't. Yeah,

 

Geoff  15:54  

I mean, I didn't eat I didn't actually put two and two together. But for for Australia, we have like two big supermarkets there is like bullies like Woolworths and Coles or Calais.

 

Georgie  16:07  

And because the US causes chaos HL

 

Geoff  16:10  

No. Because coals ES is in some languages and a sound call it call it.

 

Georgie  16:19  

Really? Yeah,

 

Geoff  16:20  

because we also have what's the fence with Tajae? Like, it's not fancy. It gets pronounced Tajae sometimes to make it fancier so I thought pronouncing coals fancy is called a anyways. And in the in the middle of the city, we had a three delta two story. Three stories. Well, Woolworths shopping like supermarket. And then they decided to convert big. Yeah, it's not it's not that big because it's in the city. But they decided to convert the second store the second floor to Big W which is a tart like Woolworths but target. So they have other other goods. Besides,

 

Georgie  17:09  

it's like, I guess it's like a budget department store is probably what I'd call it. Yeah. But I know that in the US Department Store sometimes sells food. And big W is a department store does not sell food. I don't think yeah, only out fancy department store. David Jones. Sells

 

Geoff  17:29  

they sell food in the Yeah, in

 

Georgie  17:34  

the downstairs but what is it called? I don't know. Like the K or something? I don't know city one anyway. Also, you said second floor. It's actually on the street level though. Oh. Anyway, hang on a minute. You've been living in the sewers this whole time?

 

Geoff  17:54  

Yes. My apartment building is like my probability. Ground and then LG. And then one. Oh, no. LG ground and one. But I'm pretty sure I mentioned in another episode that the that I'm built on a hill, so when you enter from one side is it's lower ground. But the other side is ground level. Because of the Yeah, the height difference, but so my cart is coming up to $290 and you telling me that $75 to ship. So that's like don't put

 

Georgie  18:30  

your details in there. I already did that. They have my info. Like discounts and it's not it just doesn't doesn't justify it like 15% discount on your first order. And then you still have to spend 75 problems.

 

Geoff  18:41  

I think it's impressive that a small like I think this is relatively new. Right? They're relatively new company company.

 

Georgie  18:51  

I'm not sure how long they've been around. Yeah. Less maybe five years max. Yeah.

 

Geoff  18:59  

To do women earned concept. I think with their with the amount of products they have in the colors, they probably got a shark tank offer. But since 2024

 

Georgie  19:13  

No, that's just this year.

 

Geoff  19:17  

Store Locator FAQ. Thank you. Maybe any case, let's say the like, I don't know five years old, even in five years, some companies don't ship worldwide. And that's kind of impressive. Yeah. How old is this company contact us get inspired refer friend. Corporate gifting. Corporate gifting. Wow, imagine corporate gifting. You get this. It's like getting those high quality like keep cups or there's those service. There is why

 

Georgie  19:49  

I got one I think I forgot what the brand actually was. I think it was like mirror or something like that. Like the just the tumbler it wasn't that good because when you hold it, there's no like handle whatever, but we got like a company brand and one of those and then sometimes they have this stainless steel like drinking bottles that are Yeah, high quality.

 

Geoff  20:11  

I remember seeing her come I feel like Oh, someone was saying that was a it was a mom on Instagram. I think she was she was like the her daughter or like something came home from school crying one one day and it was because that everyone, everyone got a Bougie cup for Christmas. Like the Stanley Cup or some shit. Yeah, the old the Stanley Cup. That's it. That's it. So a bunch of kids got the Stanley Cup. For those who don't know, it's a tumbler. And oh, right. It has a straw on the top of a lot of popularity. Yeah. They're 45 US dollars each. And it really is nothing special. It's honestly it's

 

Georgie  21:06  

glorified fucking cup.

 

Geoff  21:07  

It's small. Yeah, it's small at the bottom, which I get because not a lot of cup holders are that big and then it just becomes bigger at the top end. For those who are trying to visualize it. In any case, I thought that was like up like what would what did she say? Because Stanley Cup is a horse race. The Stanley Cup is a is a well renowned horse race. Yeah,

 

Georgie  21:31  

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about the name and oh, there we go. Hockey League.

 

Geoff  21:36  

Oh, is it a National Hockey League? Wait, let me go horse race. I feel like it's a horse race. Yeah, there we go. Stanley Cup. Okay. Yeah, course racing. Oh, is it a is it a literal horse? I feel like this horse race. Anyways, competition of some sort. Champions, semi calm champion ship anyways. So it's got a lot of different meanings to it. So I was like, come again. Stanley Cup has a trophy awarded to annually to playoff champion Club National Hockey League. Okay, maybe?

 

Georgie  22:13  

Yeah, so it's a it's an award that you get a sporting, sporting.

 

Geoff  22:20  

Anyways, so I was like, Okay, why? Why did everyone get a Stanley Cup and I

 

Georgie  22:25  

didn't know about it when before you read the post. Did you know what a Stanley Cup?

 

Geoff  22:30  

No, I just, I just recognized that as a as a sporting event.

 

Georgie  22:36  

Everyone got this cup.

 

Geoff  22:37  

Everyone got this cup and the kid came home crying guess she didn't get everyone bought her. While the mom didn't think that it was worth $45 for like a tumbler and to give to her kid and everyone thought that everyone every other parent. Every other parent thought it was appropriate to get their child one of these over expensive tumblers for Christmas. Yeah, God. Yeah. So I mean, the mom was just complaining about how how like, how is it that we've come to this point where kids are being bullied over cops? And

 

Georgie  23:14  

they think it's a trendy thing? Yeah, same as any other trend I think exactly. Yeah. Have those colorful skinny you don't

 

Geoff  23:20  

have to poke them on cards you're you're a dipshit Pokemon kids anyways, but the I think the main complaint was like they're not like poor they're doing okay that the middle class but they just don't see like worth in like this cup. But yeah, cuz every other kid Kids Yeah, every other kid got one. The like the mom just had to cave and get get her get her kid one of these like cups and just sort of like, in the message was like, this is a ridiculous situation. But she's gonna do whatever it takes to if she can afford it, to make sure her kid doesn't get bullied. And that's like the saddest part.

 

Georgie  24:07  

But then I was thinking about like, kids and phones, right? A lot of parents do not give their kid a phone. Yes, like day and age up until a certain age and I feel like surely people don't get bullied over that they just get a phone when their parents seems appropriate. Yeah, for some reason. It's like

 

Speaker 1  24:23  

it's an item, just a fucking glorified Tumblr. It's like

 

Geoff  24:30  

and whilst you could possibly get something even better than Stanley Cup, it's like super green. That's literally the name plastered on a red object and you're like that is worth 100 bucks.

 

Georgie  24:42  

So to me this is like silly because I don't really understand why it's so popular function. I mean there are people have different preferences for like function of cat also these things are bloody, unwieldy if

 

Geoff  24:57  

you can't put it in a bag. I mean, In a backpack, it will take off your backpack. And you can't put it in a handbag. You can't carry it that doesn't have a strap maybe they'll drop

 

Georgie  25:09  

it you will be the embarrassment of like a town because they're so loud.

 

Geoff  25:15  

Oh, it's metal so I thought it was soft plastic on the outside.

 

Georgie  25:19  

It's like it's dislike client it's actually clunky and so I saw a video with someone had accessorized the Stanley Cup. They put it in like a bag you know like a hat a strap like a shoulder strap thing Yeah, holder. But then they also attached a couple other things to it like a keyholder I put your phone and people like I can't see the cup like the rest of all this other shit was on the cup. And I was just like, why don't you just get a bag

 

Geoff  25:52  

I thought it was like one of those like insulated on the inside, like rubber on the outside. But yeah, it's just straight up handle. Just in this world.

 

Georgie  26:02  

Like handle is so fucking unwieldy. I hate it. Like yeah,

 

Geoff  26:07  

I mean, who's carrying this

 

Georgie  26:12  

so is the wrongs and shoot and doing that really lifestyle? And I don't know I don't.

 

Geoff  26:19  

I mean, I don't I guess I guess I don't see the use case for this. Do you carry

 

Georgie  26:26  

water around? Okay, so already you feel like I don't get it. I can water but they also use it for other drinks. But most it's actually mostly water. I feel like

 

Geoff  26:41  

I mean, like, I guess I don't spend much time outside. But even if I did this would be heavy to carry by hand. Exactly.

 

Georgie  26:49  

I showed you mine bottle right. The one I use is like you roll it up. It's like silicone. Yeah. And when it's empty, I can roll up my bottle and it's light.

 

Geoff  26:59  

Yeah, can I try a clip? I tried going on a walk with this. Like I'm holding my two liter. Oh, holy my two liter water bottle. It's one of those things that have notches and then they and then every notch is like the time at which you supposed to get to that so 7am You supposed to have drunk? I don't know 150 mils or something like that. And then down to 9pm It's a two liter

 

Georgie  27:34  

so do you know that two liter thing is a scam?

 

Geoff  27:36  

Yeah, I mean like, it definitely depends on your body size because cuz like

 

Georgie  27:44  

you eat a salad you've already got water content

 

Geoff  27:47  

in there. So I've basically stopped trying to finish it it's just now like I don't have to get up I don't have to get up and like we fill a cup of water I could just like sip this all day.

 

Georgie  28:00  

Yeah, I have my like convenience to write like instead of filling up a cup of water on my desk I just use a bottle but see like your bottle I feel like is better than the Stanley Cup because I really can like visually see that? It's like the second handle is part of the fucking bottle

 

Geoff  28:16  

as integrated

 

Georgie  28:19  

into the Yeah, reset resets on instead of sticking out like a sore Yeah, so it's the same drinking you're drinking like straws that are like a spout thing. Yeah

 

Geoff  28:31  

and Yeah, exactly. They have a picture here with like on a car and the center console with the cupholders. And to I

 

Georgie  28:41  

guess that makes sense because like so funny cuz I didn't realize that I thought they were just sitting like flat.

 

Geoff  28:46  

Oh, yeah, but because they're there Stanley Cups. They

 

Georgie  28:51  

look like they're fucking

 

Geoff  28:53  

Yeah. Anyways, the handles look like they're gonna bump into each other and it's probably not gonna anyways. So that Stanley Cup aside Yes. The the idea of like, yeah, keep keep her cadence sounds like a nice thing. But it also plays into that weird trend on on Instagram that I've seen lately. With Nike. It's probably been a long time. But people are buying plastic containers just to pour other liquids into like, the plastic container and just to store them nicely. Yeah, it seems so wasteful, like you buy a cotton you buy a carton of milk, a perfectly good container. And then you pour that cotton into a carton of milk in a glass container or another plastic container just so that all your liquids are eat like even the Yeah, yeah. measured.

 

Georgie  29:59  

It's So yeah, like environment, etc. And I understand if you do like meal prep, and you put boxes of like plastic containers in the freezer to warm up your food or whatever. But yeah, you're talking about the people who like use plastic storage to put like all of the fruit they buy and like all the crackers and shit that they buy and yeah,

 

Geoff  30:22  

yeah, like those those hyper organized influences who just like, buy these containers, buy all this stuff, just to re contain other things that have containers. Yeah, just they have like a clear thing or a nice little label. And I get it for like things. Things that don't aren't easily labeled. Cornstarch. Flour, flour. Yeah. You can't contain those stuck

 

Georgie  30:50  

in the bag like, oh, they they're just annoying. Like, yes, in a bag. Yeah. It's like, you know, the spices and condiments. You buy in the little glass things with the you can use them as they are. Yeah, exactly. A bunch of them. Like I said, it's like if they're like, I don't like the master foods branding on this separate bucket containing is it really came in Glasgow.

 

Geoff  31:16  

Yeah, and now they're really good, right? They have the label on top. So you can you can store it, you can see what it says. And not all of them have the label on top. And I'm like, that's really annoying. But I'm not going to go out and buy perfectly like like uniform, containers, labels on top and just like empty all my spices. I think

 

Georgie  31:37  

it's like glorified organization, like I fully understand if you like it works for you. And it helps keep stuff organized. But I feel like function wise. Yeah. If you've already got a thing that has, it's like a wall saying with when I go like fly domestic, I just take the container of the face cream or whatever. And I just put it in my bag because the container already has this bucket face cream on it.

 

Geoff  32:07  

Yeah, the, I imagine like emptying stuff into these things are actually quite, quite difficult. So I would probably use it for home.

 

Georgie  32:15  

Like if that's the thing I was thinking like there's a there's one of the tiles that says toner. And I every toner I've used is a liquid form. Yep. It's not like a thicker consistency. So the bottle that comes in is like a plastic bottle where the top has like a small hole. So when you dispense it onto your hand or onto a pad or cotton pad comes out small drops, and putting them in this little hexagonal like container with a wide mouth

 

Geoff  32:43  

get to dip your pad in it.

 

Georgie  32:48  

I'm not that's the power my dad with what have you have very liquid consistency thing. Yeah.

 

Geoff  32:53  

It seems like they have screw on and it seems relatively water tight, but I don't see an O ring. So that's that to me is like a red flag.

 

Georgie  33:06  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  33:07  

Oh, yeah. For those who don't know what O rings, then a little rabbit that little rubber there little rubber rings. They sit inside a screw a screw in something sit inside the thread. Yeah. And then when you when you thread when you screw on something, the O ring is essentially like trapping any liquid and it doesn't come out. I think that I think people come across O rings more often than they think that they do and they don't know what they are. But even on the inside of this. Yeah, even on the inside of this. It's like like the threaded at the end of the thread. Does a that's a rubber there's a rubber piece Yeah. material that

 

Georgie  33:48  

you get. There's old school like jars. You know, like the jars that have like a glass lid and they just have because

 

Geoff  33:55  

they have an O ring in those. Yeah, for sure they do.

 

Georgie  33:58  

It's what I'm thinking of one of those jobs. Is it a man I don't know if it's a mason jar or whatever?

 

Geoff  34:03  

Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah.

 

Georgie  34:06  

Kind of thing. Yeah, that's

 

Geoff  34:07  

right. It's like a cookie jar. For some reason a lot of people store cookies and knees but you can obviously start lots of other things but yeah, there's like a rubber all the clasp there's a clasp on it. And yes that's exactly the one that yeah, there's also water containers that have that clasp on it that top bought like the little glass bottle with the rubber thing that flips Oh yeah, yeah, you can't have a damn with the metal thing anyways, so So yeah, what

 

Georgie  34:40  

are these even called I even had one on this is so random but a candle that had like a top like it had the rubber fit to make it's like soup that

 

Geoff  34:50  

that's really interesting. Yeah, this one. Oh, wow. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

 

Georgie  34:56  

yeah.

 

Geoff  34:57  

I don't think that's a ring but it's the same concept. Yeah, it's rubber stopper. I have Yeah, I have I have a couple of containers that I do keep on display that look really nice. They're from Joseph Joseph. But they contain soft things like yeah, like I said flour, sugar. salt flakes, salt flakes. They don't come in and glass jars. So yeah, yeah. And the pot and the tall ones for pasta. Yeah. So I think that's that's practical bias, but I think that's practical containers to have. And yeah, but everything else seems like over the top when you're like repurposing things. I already came in gloss things. But yeah, um, I guess I can kind of see it if I wanted to go get I don't even know.

 

Georgie  35:56  

You're gonna get a Stanley Cup. There is no way.

 

Geoff  36:02  

Oh, look at that, huh? This reminds me more time, like, like canteens that people carried around. And they're like, general so here's your water. So

 

Georgie  36:15  

I mean, to be fair, I think like, how does one hold hold a water bottle? Right? Like, sometimes you do want to put it on a strap as a shoulder strap and carry it not like as hands free? Yeah.

 

Geoff  36:26  

Oh, I know. It's people who think they're exercising but not really exercising. It's it's just enough handle for you to walk with. But only a very short period

 

Georgie  36:44  

of time. Yeah, cuz you're not Yeah, you're not going for a fucking run in the shit. Yeah. And you're not walking for a long period of time. Otherwise, you probably carry a bag. Yeah.

 

Geoff  36:55  

I actually don't know what to do with water. When I want to go for like a like a hike. Because I don't want to carry a bag. Well, actually, the day bag I

 

Georgie  37:05  

probably do. Like these days, when you go for a hike and you

 

Geoff  37:09  

haven't been on a hike in a while. I just don't. Or I do very, maybe maybe a smaller bottle. And then I just refill that I can refill or like just hold and it's not gonna like, get too heavy. So yeah,

 

Georgie  37:27  

I use I use this one. And I just refill it. And I have two of these. And so like, if Nick and I go together, we just have the two bottles. But yeah, when we've gone on longer hikes, we've also bought like, a two liter plastic bottle or something like that. Like, if you can't refill because they'll tell you, you can't refill the tray.

 

Unknown Speaker  37:46  

Really?

 

Georgie  37:49  

Yeah, they do. They'll be like, oh, man, we do our research. And you know if it's like a three hour hike, and it says there's no way to refill and if we're gonna do too high, or something like that. Yeah, but I guess they have those like called bladder bags, the ones that are like whole

 

Geoff  38:04  

right, the ones that you sit up the bag in the water and pouch on the back. Yeah. That's not that's too much dedication. That stuff's

 

Georgie  38:15  

gone there. It's like I really don't know, like an eight hour hike or a can’t. You know, where it's inconvenient to carry bunches of bottles. Otherwise, you get a day back.

 

Geoff  38:24  

Have you seen how much it costs? I'd have

 

Georgie  38:28  

to find out the camel

 

Geoff  38:29  

packs for 60 bucks.

 

Georgie  38:31  

Oh, that's not too bad.

 

Geoff  38:35  

It's gonna be like to it's gonna be like, Yeah, I thought that I thought they were $200 Like, but even the three liter 140 $5 And the two liter ones. $40. Wow, you get an extra liter for $5. Just buy these

 

Georgie  38:47  

and carry them on their little walks. It's the Stanley Cup. Yeah,

 

Geoff  38:52  

yeah. I mean, then that's not trendy. But it's more effective. Oh, yeah, this is the same cost of the as cheaper and it's cheaper than the standing leverage as well. And you can actually strap it on your back and but I mean, you're talking to the person who bought a Tesla, even though it was outrageously overpriced and not entirely necessary to own and inconvenient to be fair at the time. So what who am I? Who am I to judge, judge people who buy Stanley Cup?

 

Georgie  39:30  

It's true, right? Like, I don't want to, and the same with the container thing, right? I don't want to judge if that's what you want works for you and you'd like to have your stuff look really nice and organized inside.

 

Geoff  39:43  

To be fair, I would like to do that. Like from a visual standpoint and organization standpoint, I would love to do that. But it's just

 

Georgie  39:52  

fine plus, yeah, like the effort.

 

Geoff  39:56  

I'm just too lazy to make it look that nice and I've come to peace with that.

 

Georgie  39:59  

Yeah, yeah, agreed.

 

Geoff  40:03  

It's, it's better now, but also worse, because there are a lot more electric cars on the road. And there, the infrastructure hasn't quite kept up with the demand. So we have people lining up for, you know, public charges went to IKEA. Every every spot was taken, I remember the time when I could just pick a spot that I like any point in the day and charge. But nowadays, it's chocolate blocked. And you have people like so imagine a wall on your right hand side. And everyone's every every spot is backed into for charging. And then you have you have, you know, obviously a space for the cost to drive. And then you have a perpendicular cost base spaces. People are parking next, next to those next to the perpendicular parking spots, and in the way of the driving area, just a lineup for the lineup for the fall. You can you can get out, but it's sort of like 1.5 times this, like, Oh, it's a 1.5 times car with. So if you have another car there, it's just a tight, tighter tighter fit to drive by. But again, you're talking about three, three cars, which are lining up for this charging station. And

 

Georgie  41:37  

what are you doing?

 

Geoff  41:38  

So my partner and I were like, Okay, we know that the probably low chances of us getting a spot but we really need to charge I'm talking four or 5%. And so we get there, Park there's like lines or lines, there's already too many cars. They've taken up all the all the space possible to line up. So we just parked nearby. And we went shopping. And we came back with like still no spaces. So we go see a movie. And then there's like less

 

Georgie  42:13  

you're killing time just killing time.

 

Geoff  42:17  

The time we we got so the parking is free from I think 6pm to midnight, and then you get charged $75 overnight fee for midnight onwards. So we kill 70 $75 Yeah, yeah, one of those. And then things Yeah. So we went and saw a movie. And we came out at like 10pm. Then finally we got a spot and we just sat there till midnight. Just charging the car. That

 

Georgie  42:48  

is frustrating dude. Yeah.

 

Geoff  42:52  

And I just had a chat with. Like, there's lots of chatter about EVs in, in the fenders, Slack.

 

Georgie  43:02  

And like Mia in there. Yeah.

 

Geoff  43:03  

I mean, I barely talked about front end in the fender stat slack. Do you actually

 

Georgie  43:09  

like how often do you check the angry? Oh, every day? Oh, my God.

 

Geoff  43:16  

I mean, not not chat. But I but I read you read. And it's like, crazy ridiculous. So someone posted they're going to they're actually seriously thinking about getting EVs because their company offers Novated leases, I won't go into what Novated leasing it is. But I think it's an American concept to be fit, to be honest. So your company, basically, you can sell your sacrifice to lease a car for three to five years, if you stay at your company that long. And they offer a balloon payment at the end. So whatever's left over of the payments that you've made so far on the cost of the car, they'll let you pay that amount in full and then you go in the car. So $5,000 car you pay $100 per year for five years is only 500 by $500. So yeah, you pay $4,500 to own the car. Anyways. So they were thinking about doing that and they were like, How's how's the house? Evie life? Because his wife absolutely rejected the idea of public charging. They did not want to change anything about their lifestyle for the sake of this car. And that is probably a really good, really good stance to take right now. Because yeah,

 

Georgie  44:49  

yeah, you're feeling it. You're like, yes. So I already

 

Geoff  44:54  

knew I had to, like use public chargers in my pocket. Like I have to like gamble every time I needed. to discharge by car, it would be a gamble. And I can understand I fully understand if people don't want to actually buy into that.

 

Georgie  45:09  

Yeah, it makes sense to me as well. Like, I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't still doesn't feel like a good time to get one.

 

Geoff  45:15  

A B if you can get it if you can get a plug it you're just a regular socket in your parking space. Yes, it's 100% we

 

Georgie  45:24  

can't we can in our current space, I think we might have to for some of them, like their locks maybe have to ask the building manager like, can we get over here?

 

Geoff  45:33  

That's for vacuuming I think and like other power tools. The other thing is that it's like my one of my friends my ex colleagues was thinking about should they get an electric car? And the ultimate breaker for them break? What's the blocker? Red flag deal breaker breaker deal breaker for them is that when they move, they would have to be really specific with what place they go to it down all your options. Hey. So a I was really lucky to have a charging public charging nearby and be guess I was prepared to like when it wherever we move. That charging would have to be like the number one reason why we go to a shopping center. No matter how much shopping centers. We have to pick ones that have charges. So yeah.

 

Georgie  46:45  

Well, you could get the bus there.

 

Geoff  46:47  

With groceries.

 

Georgie  46:50  

Yeah, yeah. I guess there is. I guess there's a lot to think about in terms of your lifestyle. Yeah, if you were considering

 

Geoff  46:58  

Yeah, yeah. Electric cars just I was just young and free. Without a care

 

Georgie  47:05  

when you when you got it.

 

Geoff  47:08  

I don't know if I was any really any younger. It was like, what, 334 years ago? No.

 

Georgie  47:17  

Yeah, it was longer than that was No, it wasn't.

 

Geoff  47:21  

I got it. I got it when I'm when I met my partner. So

 

Georgie  47:27  

yeah. Before like shortly before

 

Geoff  47:30  

I got a during COVID. I had to I had to break some COVID rules, seven kilometer, the five kilometer rule or whatever. Just to go get the car.

 

Georgie  47:41  

I do vaguely remember. Wait, wait, hang on. What did we already start the pod? I feel like you you kind of

 

Geoff  47:48  

Oh, what about about it? Yeah, because I feel like I feel like it was such an extravagant purchase. But I would I don't know if I kept it a secret for any any real reason. I just didn't maybe didn't lead with the with that. That I bought a test. Yeah. If some someone brought it up, and I'm like, Yeah, I got one.

 

Georgie  48:12  

I remember. Yeah. Cuz we'd started doing the pod and then you did talk about the car. Yeah, he never said the word Tesla for like a little, I think until I guess it was more quote unquote, common.

 

Geoff  48:24  

Yeah, he's a founder, my manager at the time. Also had one, but he got it read. And that's more expensive than my black. They like,

 

Georgie  48:35  

I mean, my car is red. My concern. So did my car. My car is 10 years old.

 

Geoff  48:45  

Whoa. And how much how much service? Have you been doing on that car?

 

Georgie  48:51  

You do? You mean? Like how often do we get service?

 

Geoff  48:54  

Yeah. And then he's doing services that you had to do extra? Because

 

Georgie  49:00  

like for before the richer Yeah. Because it just needs to have that that whole like check. And then in terms of like, what how much of a piece of shit it is. It's actually not that bad. So we had to fix the aircon filter one time. Yeah, we had to replace the battery one time but that's because Nick accidentally left the light on inside and

 

Geoff  49:23  

my sister had to have her has changed recently. I cannot believe that it costs like $250 to get someone else

 

Georgie  49:31  

like oh, we've had just had to pay $300 for the battery itself. That's

 

Geoff  49:36  

crazy. It's a nine volt battery, isn't it with a special battery.

 

Georgie  49:43  

Just had a good chat with the NRMA guy because like I just had to Yeah, and then most recently, the boot wouldn't open. No. They were like over time but I will tell you this bit what I'm open with the remote of the car. This stupid car. It's a Mazda three by the way from 2014. And you can't open the boot from the inside from the driver's seat. You can open the bonnet by the way boot is trunk. Yes, folks. Yeah. Gonna open the bonnet. What do they call the bonnet? The front bit?

 

Geoff  50:19  

I think that's the American term bonnet.

 

Georgie  50:21  

What do we call it the front, whatever, you can open the front from the driver's seat because there's a button or leave the Frankfurt

 

Geoff  50:28  

the franc is not a very, it's like an Eevee? Because it has a front trunk. You don't have a front trunk?

 

Georgie  50:41  

Oh, yeah, it's just the front that

 

Geoff  50:44  

front of the car where the engineers engine cover. So

 

Georgie  50:48  

essentially, we couldn't open the the boots, the trunk. And this happened when I was picking up Chris to go to the Blue Mountains for dev camp. So I didn't realize until I was like, Well, I will try to load my car. And he was like, Don't worry, we'll figure it out. And he just put out shit in the back. Yeah. At the Blue Mountains, like he brought, he just grabbed some screwdrivers from home. And it was like, we'll figure it out in the Blue Mountain. So we got to live mountains, which is where the whole offside and death camp was. And this is the annoying thing. How do you usually I don't know about your car. But if you want to put those back seats down, like the seats in the back and put them down? Because you want more space? Yeah. On the boot through to the Yeah. In a lot of like older cars, there's levers near the headrests. You just pull them and yeah, vaccines come down.

 

Geoff  51:43  

It's pretty much the smoking late

 

Georgie  51:45  

in the fucking levers and my car, put the boots down or to put the seats down in the focus.

 

Geoff  51:55  

I think I think I do remember how like that I might want my family members or something having a car that like it's on the back of the of the seats, not not anywhere accessible from the front. But yeah, so yeah, you couldn't actually put them down? Yeah,

 

Georgie  52:13  

so essentially, Chris had to go into like, remove the head, the head rests and then kind of get in there with a screwdriver to pull the back

 

Geoff  52:21  

or you have a boot cover.

 

Georgie  52:23  

What do you mean? Like, like, you can't put you can't access the

 

Geoff  52:27  

boot from from the backseat.

 

Georgie  52:31  

Right? It's one of those old cars like it's a sedan. So it's not like a SUV type thing or anything. Yeah. So anyway, it was just funny because we realized this fucking picture of Chris holding us holding his phone with a torch on a secure driver coming out of the inside of my boot from the backs. But basically, the wiring was like, it wasn't the lock. It was like the so we took it to the car, electrician. Yeah, fix it. And he had to do some replacements of stuff. And he said they just were out over time. It's not really anything to do with like, what you slammed the boot or whatever. Yeah,

 

Geoff  53:11  

and that fucking

 

Georgie  53:12  

cost like $646 or

 

Geoff  53:15  

something. Yeah. Well, I mean, I can I remember the price of changing the door handle. That's just ridiculous. I think it was about that price to change at my door handle. So really, I think that's that was probably I mean, it's, it's a critical thing to change. But it's also not that hard. Door. Door Door Handle. I could just have a hole. I don't even need a door. I could just just trust my neighbors. Where you

 

Georgie  53:48  

remember the in like, non really old cars where the way you open the door? The window? Was the crown the window? Yeah, like, that's all someone asked like, Gen Z are people born after the year 2000. What do you think this is?

 

Geoff  54:10  

I mean, kid, I mean, let's just let's just level here, cuz there's a generation that don't actually know what fax machines are. Yeah, exactly. That like really? It's really sobering, sobering thought, because I had some documents filled out and the doctor was filling them out. And they were like, oh, I need a fax number for this part. Fax number, the then they said, I know, right? And then it just dawned on me. This generation that doesn't know what a fax is. A whole generation. I mean, do they even know what a rotary phone is? Maybe? No, that's the little.

 

Georgie  54:54  

There are other. There are other ones where it's like, you just what do you do with that? Even the shape of a phone like that we

 

Geoff  55:02  

do the banana phone call me. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Because you can't do that anymore because they think that you're just like hang 10 or something. Yeah, that's even dated. hang loose is already dated. They don't even say hang dead. Oh, hang hang loose. They say chill, or even less than that. Chair.

 

Georgie  55:24  

rotary phone was hilarious. Because in Australia, the emergency services triple zero. Yeah, is all the way under.

 

Geoff  55:36  

That's true. Hey, they made it the most difficult thing to like, like die or when you're incapacitated?

 

Georgie  55:42  

Whoever designed it. I feel like obviously, whoever designed the rotary phone might have been before they were like emergency numbers in different countries. Maybe? That's

 

Geoff  55:55  

true, because it would try it wouldn't translate. Maybe here.

 

Georgie  56:00  

Maybe it was made. I don't know why it wasn't made. Like if it was in Europe, for example, waves.

 

Geoff  56:04  

Were one one America, Americans. 999. Right, triple 9911911. That's hotter. I don't know. But let's

 

Georgie  56:13  

find out. Where do you think the rotary phone was invented? I haven't. I feel like maybe Europe just because it gives me that vibe. But

 

Geoff  56:22  

rotary Fern invented?

 

Georgie  56:29  

Because whoever made it made it for the world. Yeah.

 

Geoff  56:36  

rotary dial phones are the earliest user controlled phone to be mass produced. Oh, yeah. Before that they had they had the no before they had the bergerie. Phone. You could you just had to, like pick up this like earpiece and talk receiver thing and talk to talk to someone like the Comptroller, the person that actually like put me through to the Police Services, and they would just connect your wire over to the police services and talk. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's before this the word refund? Because it just like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Operator. So prior to that. You said pick up the phone and wait for the operator answer and then tell the operator who they want to connect with. So yeah, 9018 seven, yay, New Haven, Connecticut. So it was American?

 

Georgie  57:30  

No, no, that says before, that's the first

 

Geoff  57:33  

telephone exchange. Yeah, skip that shit. 1879 26. Paper patents, patents? Blah, blah, blah, blah, poor teh, Indiana. So it was still American. 1919. All right. American bell to the you know, Bill.

 

Georgie  57:53  

Alexander Graham. Yeah. Began

 

Geoff  57:56  

the national service for user control. So if we looked at the emergency number telephone numbers for America, maybe they changed it like Asia? 119 for Japan, that's important to know. Europe 112112 I mean, hey, I guess most of them have been one, two. And then America. North America, normal one. And then 112. But same pa machine. That's like they're pretty much in Europe, right?

 

Georgie  58:33  

That's a French. Is it a French thing? self governing territory?

 

Geoff  58:38  

They're in there in order. They're in a last like one of those things. Yeah. Did you know that there's only 20 like the brown 24 countries that the the the British didn't conquer?

 

Georgie  58:54  

Fuck this guy.

 

Geoff  58:57  

Could you imagine? Anyways? One to nine. So so it was it was made in America and the American number was 911 It was the most difficult number to to.

 

Georgie  59:09  

I don't think anyone thought thought about this. There's just something I thought.

 

Geoff  59:14  

Yeah, I mean, it makes sense if you did, like a rotary phone made sense at the time. And yeah, I mean, it's it's accessibility nightmare in itself. What if you crushed your fingers or burnt then you can't actually use a rotary phone to call for help. I do

 

Georgie  59:30  

remember someone using a pencil like or a pin. I don't know if I did it out of boredom. I don't want to put my finger in.

 

Geoff  59:43  

Anyways, that's the history lesson of the day speaking history lessons. This episode is going to be history. So you can follow us on nothing but you can email us on test versus pod@pm.me.

 

Georgie  59:58  

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