A mishmash of things this episode: cafes closing at 2pm, never seeing the sea whilst working on a boat, and airport train station fees.
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A mishmash of things this episode: cafes closing at 2pm, never seeing the sea whilst working on a boat, and airport train station fees.
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Geoff 0:09
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I'm your co host Georgie and I'm here with Geoff.
Yo, it's Geoff.
Georgie 0:19
With a G.
Geoff 0:21
With the G and the E and the O and the F F. I still get the like occasional Jack.
Georgie 0:30
Jack?
Geoff 0:31
Yeah, actually, we're we're waiting for a lot in line for food the other day. We purchase then, and then they ask for your name. And then you go round to the side and pick up right. Same with Starbucks, I guess. And no joke. This person said something that sounded like Geoff, like every order. Every everybody's like, Jack, James, Jeff. Like, in the in that range?
Georgie 0:59
Yeah.
Geoff 1:00
And English is not his first language. So it's pronounciation. So I was like, no, no, yeah, no, no, that's not mine, nevermind. And then there's other people who are also Jack and James who are like—
Georgie 1:10
Jen?
Geoff 1:11
Jen. Yeah, like going oh, oh, no. Yeah, this is mine, I ordered this. So—
Georgie 1:17
Jim.
Geoff 1:17
On a, Jimmy, Jimbo.
Georgie 1:21
John.
Geoff 1:22
Jacob. Jingle...heimer schmidt? Do you not know this one?
Georgie 1:28
No?
Geoff 1:29
There's a rhyme, it’s a song. It goes “John, Jacob, Jingleheimer Schmidt, his name is my name too, whenever we go out the people always shout, there goes John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt”. And that's, that's the song.
Georgie 1:46
I’ve never heard of it.
Geoff 1:47
Yeah, great. I had to just sing all of it. Um, so yeah, anyways, so it was a bit of a touch and go situation where like, I am not entitled, I'm just gonna go up and see what the food is. If it's like the thing I ordered, I will, I will just take it. And I think, I think the end, I saw the tag, and it was like, J. J. E, something. Like they had, like, completely butchered the spelling altogether.
Georgie 2:19
Yeah.
Geoff 2:21
But I think we should really go into this whole name thing.
Georgie 2:23
Have you seen the “mark with a C”? I think we've talked about this?
Geoff 2:27
Mark with a C? I know someone who's Marc with a C.
Georgie 2:30
Okay, so I think it might have been on Reddit or Im—how do you pronounce it Imgur? Imager?
Geoff 2:37
“Imager”?
Georgie 2:37
Imager. Someone took a photo of their star, I think it was Starbucks, of a coffee cup which had their name on it. And they said I told the barista “My name is Mark with a C” and they'd written, they’d written, C, A, R, K. (laughs)
Geoff 2:55
(laughs) Yeah, cark. Ah man.
Georgie 2:59
It never never gets old.
Geoff 3:01
Never gets old. We're at Starbucks the other day actually. And we ordered some drinks and this person, was it behind us or in front of us? Either way, this person ordered very close to ours. And we walked around to the pickup end. And the barista came to the to the, to drop something off. They put the cup down. And that person immediately went up to to see if it was their order. And I’m like, in what world do you think that from the time you ordered, to the time you walked, like one, two metres away, that your order would be finished? It was like... I would not assume, but that was that was very special.
Georgie 3:46
Both of you to assume that's your drink.
Geoff 3:49
Yes. And they almost took it too, they just picked they picked it up, almost, and they're like wait, this is not my drink. Of course it's not your drink. You just ordered like two seconds ago.
Georgie 4:00
They literally think Starbucks—
Geoff 4:01
Service—
Georgie 4:01
...is a machine.
Geoff 4:02
Yeah. Literally a machine—actually. I mean most people who get Starbucks like Starbucks coffee. You should just, oh—
Georgie 4:12
I have a theory about—
Geoff 4:12
I wonder if that will come up in the recording. The washing just finished anyways.
Georgie 4:18
Yeah, I had a brief period of time before I drink coffee regularly where I was just drinking like those Starbucks beverages that have sugar and stuff in them.
Geoff 4:27
Isn’t that all?
Georgie 4:28
When I say sugar and stuff I—pardon?
Geoff 4:30
Isn’t it all of them?
Georgie 4:31
Yeah, I guess the more the frappuccinos with the with the whipped cream.
Geoff 4:36
That's my jam.
Georgie 4:37
My lactose intolerance was like, “I will deal with this”. Reader, it did not.
Geoff 4:46
But yeah, I know that people look down on Starbucks. They have was like a few good hits.
Georgie 4:51
Yeah, if you, if you want some sweet hit of sugar and in some warm or more cold beverage Just like go, like, go for it. The coffee though is not that great. If you're in a pinch, go for it. Like if it's—do they even close late these days?
Geoff 5:11
Ah, not the one that's our one, like inside the Westfield.
Georgie 5:14
But they’re not like your, you know, specialty coffee shop that literally closes at fucking 2pm.
Geoff 5:20
Oh yeah, they don't get business after two? No way.
Georgie 5:24
But yeah, that's that's when you, that's when I would I would say you order Starbucks, is you, you need to. Just out of necessity.
Geoff 5:31
It’s really, it's actually really strange we we were in we were looking at the other stuff that Starbucks sells. And usually—
Georgie 5:39
Food?
Geoff 5:40
Yeah, usually you go there in a pinch, right? You're like you need a quick bagel, quick sandwich or whatever. But it's inside of Westfield. So I feel like it's not quite the right place to have quick pickup food. You're not in the CBD. No one's rushing around in a Westfield perhaps looking for a bagel, like, between, I don't know, the various shops that are around. If you wanted food, food, there's like a food court upstairs. So yeah, yeah, it might it might, it might not work out so well in this environment, but whatever.
Georgie 6:18
I think people like the sort of familiarity of like, this chain is in some places, and I'm familiar with it. And there's a place to sit. Like, is there a Starbucks that doesn't have a place to sit? Like that's the other thing I don't mind about it.
Geoff 6:32
That's true. They're basically the de facto like, we can sit here forever with free Wi Fi. Were they first cafe to really popularise a chain that had free Wi Fi at a cafe of some sort. Yeah, possibly.
Georgie 6:47
Possibly. Because I remember when I was in school, I think that we had quite a few Starbucks, and then they all disappeared, and they came back again. And I'm talking like 20 years ago, probably was when they started popping up in malls and stuff. And then maybe about 10 years after that. You weren't, they all closed down for whatever reason, I can't remember. And then now there's there's still a few in the city. But I think they were the first sort of, come here and chill and free Wi Fi and stuff.
Geoff 7:22
Yeah. Will guilt you into buying expensive sugar drinks. I've been watching a horrible show.
Georgie 7:31
Oh, love to hear it.
Geoff 7:33
Yeah, it's called Below Deck.
Georgie 7:36
Can I guess—
Geoff 7:36
Have you heard of it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, this is great. Go for it, what do you think it's about?
Georgie 7:42
I have no knowledge of any of the shows that are out these days or even in the past decade or so.
Geoff 7:47
Decade. (llaughs)
Georgie 7:50
It sounds like it could be about cruise ships. Maybe. This is quite specific, actually. But one idea is that it could be about the people who work on a cruise ship, but you don't really see them because they're below, Below Deck. Other things, could it be like a poker or like a casino thing like talking about a deck of cards. Although the phrase “Below Deck” doesn't really lend itself to gambling.
Geoff 8:21
You're right on the money. The first one.
Georgie 8:23
Yes. Yes. Okay. I want to know, though, why you find, so you said it's boring?
Geoff 8:30
It's it's like, bad, boring. It's interesting. It's an interesting concept. And I talked about this with my sister very briefly, but I essentially I was like, This is a weird concept because it's kind of boring, but you also kind of want to watch it. And you're right. It's about the crew who operate a super yacht. And we're talking like it can bear, it can bed like eight people. Like they have eight guests at a time.
Georgie 8:59
So it's not a cruise, but it's like—
Geoff 9:01
Yeah, but it's a it's a private it's a private super yacht that people book.
Georgie 9:07
A super yacht needs a small crew of people?
Geoff 9:10
Yeah, the crew is actually what 3, 6, 7, 8? Probably yeah, the crew is also 8. Nine, nine. The crew is nine.
Georgie 9:22
How many passengers are there?
Geoff 9:24
Eight passengers. Nine crew.
Georgie 9:26
Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, no—
Geoff 9:27
And it can—
Georgie 9:28
I've heard of this, yeah.
Geoff 9:29
Yeah. And can bed all of them.
Georgie 9:31
Like when you hire a yacht, like, people need to run the damn thing.
Geoff 9:34
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 9:37
Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 9:37
Yeah. They never tell you how much it is. But they but they do say that these people are paying thousands and thousands of dollars every now and then. And I think it's probably in the realm of 60 to $80,000. And it's only two nights, it's a three day charter.
Georgie 9:52
OK. So—
Geoff 9:54
Anyways.
Georgie 9:54
Expensive stuff. Yep.
Geoff 9:56
The reason why it's really weird is because it's well These, the one that I'm watching is the Australian one. And they're all so unprofessional. It's ridiculous.
Georgie 10:06
Is it like a reality show, or?
Geoff 10:06
Yeah.
Georgie 10:07
Like a documentary?
Geoff 10:08
No, it's reality. And this is the this is the thing. It's reality is about a deck crew who are wildly unprofessional, in most sense, in most sense of the word. And it's a service industry that you often don't see. So the interesting thing is that it’s a certain industry that you never see. And I mean, I don't know how many people I know that can avoid to book a super yacht. So that's interesting. But all of these people wildly, like they're inappropriate. They do, they, they don't treat each other, professionally. And it’s all this gossip and crap. And by no means this is par for the course, this is par for the course when reality shows that, right?
Georgie 10:58
Yeah.
Geoff 10:59
But the weird thing is that it's all on TV. So—
Georgie 11:02
Someone had to film it, is that what you’re getting at?
Geoff 11:06
Well, you also have the film crew, which is also interesting, where they put the film crew, but it's sort of like not a good business move. I think, like, if you saw this crew, which you wouldn't want them to, you wouldn't want to book them, is it's not like a good business move. They look terrible. Like the chef really doesn't want to cook anything that the, that the passengers want to eat.
Georgie 11:34
Are you sure this is not dramatised in some way?
Geoff 11:37
I don't I don't know. But why would anyone want to dramatise their business like this? To make themselves look bad? On purpose? Right.
Georgie 11:47
Entertainment.
Geoff 11:49
Yeah, so that I don't book your super yacht. Which is interesting. In any case, they they boat out in Whitsundays. I’ve never been or heard of the place? I've heard of it. I've never seen it.
Georgie 12:01
It’s up in Queensland, it's like, where, the beaches are like white sand and like—
Geoff 12:04
Yeah, lots of coral. So you get to see them. They snorkel and scuba and stuff like that. And it's quite an interesting operation to watch. But, yeah, just, I don’t understand why—
Georgie 12:18
So do the crew stay on the yacht? Do they also get to, or do you, or are you seeing pass the passengers enjoying the snorkelling and stuff?
Geoff 12:26
The crew, the crew sometimes like so the crew have to take them out snorkelling, and stuff like that. So they have the opportunity to sometimes go and join the passengers for some of these activities. So it's, it's kind of good. But the crew generally stay on the boat and they do a huge rotation like it as soon as like, the guests get out of their bedrooms, they do the turndown service and stuff like that, just like a hotel would do when you're like when you're out and about. But these are all really close quarters. And—
Georgie 13:00
Yeah.
Geoff 13:01
You don't get to go home at the end of the day. And like unwind, you're you're with the crew 24/7.
Georgie 13:07
So I've actually been on a one cruise, which was a sample cruise, so it doesn't really count. It just went up and back for like a couple nights. And we decided to do the tour of the Below Deck and the in the crew and stuff. So there was some very interesting things. And even though I don't remember a lot of what they shared or talked about, it was a while ago, and I probably wasn't super interested. But Nick was really interested. So I was like of course, I’ll come join, some of the some of the members don't even see above deck ever. Kike you never see them. And so they're working all the time in, like cruise ships are huge, but they're working all the time Below Deck, they don't even see the outside world, the sun, the, I don’t know, very strange.
Geoff 13:54
Immortal people. The chef generally doesn't come out he only comes out to serve some food sometimes. But yeah, he's, he's like, in the he's either sleeping or cooking or bitching in this case. So why do I say this is like, you, like the Australian one is particularly annoying because the people aren't very, very nice or professional. But there's a whole bunch of other ones like Below Deck Mediterranean, which they recommended, Below Deck of other places. I don't know how many Below Decks there are, but it's a popular concept somehow. Despite it's very strange...
Georgie 14:39
It seems really niche. Oh, wow. Rocked by sexual misconduct. Okay, let's—
Geoff 14:45
Yikes, sexual misconduct. Let's go here, Below Deck. Yeah. Oh, man. Was that spoilers?
Georgie 14:55
I mean, whoops.
Geoff 14:57
Whoops. Below Deck sailing, Below Deck Sailing Yacht, Below Deck Down Under, and Below Deck Adventure, which I think might be the American one.
Georgie 15:07
The logo looks familiar. I think maybe I've seen snippets of it, but I don't think it would have been the Australian one.
Geoff 15:14
Mercury. Fjords of Norway. See, this is kind of interesting sometimes when you get to see where they are like Below Deck Down Under maybe if you're Australian, it's kind of meh.
Georgie 15:26
Down Under.
Geoff 15:27
Yeah. But yeah, my God, this is a whole sorts of misconduct on the board, on board these onboard the ship and I'm like, I don't think they should be showing anyone this. And like that article alludes to, you can see some shit that might not be entirely, not not illegal, but yeah. Uncouth. But it might just because they're Australian.
Georgie 15:55
Wait are you implying we’re like, raunchy fuckers?
Geoff 15:59
No? Well, technically, actually, not all the crew are Australian. I think like half of them are American ones. And one of those Polish. The Captain’s Australian.
Georgie 16:08
Are they Australian citizens or something?
Geoff 16:12
I think you can work on the boat as a under work visa or something like that.
Georgie 16:16
So is it just that the thing is—
Geoff 16:19
Yeah, it's based in Australia.
Georgie 16:20
Yeah.
Geoff 16:22
Yeah. Based in Australia. In any case, I've been trying to see if there's any thing like worth watching and it’s just in, sometimes in the background, because it's just noise.
Georgie 16:33
Just bullshit?
Geoff 16:34
Yeah, I've I've quickly run out of just some kind of show to watch.
Georgie 16:40
You know what show you should watch in the background, which will probably end up being the background? Border Security.
Geoff 16:46
Oh no. Border Security. That's yeah, Border Security is an interesting one. I've never seen I've never actually watch-watched it.
Georgie 16:57
Really?
Geoff 16:59
But—
Georgie 16:59
Not even—
Geoff 16:59
Yeah.
Georgie 17:00
Have you seen short videos?
Geoff 17:03
No, I've never seen, I don't see any of it.
Georgie 17:05
Wait do you, you know what it’s about though, right?
Geoff 17:07
Yeah. Do we? Is it the Australian one? There’s an Australian one, there’s an American one?
Georgie 17:12
The Australian one. The Australian one. So my mum’s—
Geoff 17:16
It’s got 68%. What about Canada, Canada is way better. 73%.
Georgie 17:19
I've never actually watched the other ones. But the one that I laugh about is the Australian one because you know how they. So it's about what happens at the airport. Like when people want to cross the border.
Geoff 17:29
Alright.
Georgie 17:31
You know what it's like. So, for anyone listening, who's not Australian has never even been here, or exited here or whatever. We have very stringent laws, when it comes to what you can bring into the country. And a lot of visitors find this very funny. Like, we will not let you bring generally I think to sum it up, because it can be confusing, unfortunately, if English is your second language and you're reading the form that you have to fill in, it can be quite difficult to understand like, what am I actually allowed and what am I not, but to put it simply, we don't allow any fresh food, fresh meat. Everything has to be sort of like, processed, yeah we don't let you bring any plants any natural stuff, no seeds. My friend did ask me the other day because this is how I remembered it. And my friend is from the US. She said, can you bring like seeds that are like food? I’m like oh yeah, I think like, if you've got, like—
Geoff 18:34
Oh like cashews?
Georgie 18:36
Yeah, like nuts and seeds, that's fine, but you can't bring like a—
Geoff 18:40
Sunflower.
Georgie 18:40
Like in a plant. Yeah.
Geoff 18:42
Oh.
Georgie 18:42
So I remember one time I got some random. I don't know if it was a souvenir. But I went somewhere in Japan and they gave us seeds to plant like something. And I tried to take them back knowing that they might take it so like when when we were asked what do you have? I said I have these, am I allowed to take, they’re like no sorry, you can't bring seeds and plants. And if your shoes have been in like what fresh water or you've been on farms and stuff, they will sometimes check your shoes. Anyway, this Border Security show is carefully carefully curated selection of incidents, at Sydney, is it Sydney? I guess it’s Sydney? Nah mostly Sydney, actually, I don't know but airports around Australia and they kind of make the person who's coming into the country look like a fool. I think someone said it's actually quite racist because it seems to be always like Vietnamese men being interrogated.
Geoff 19:47
Yeah, that's something about Below Deck as well. It's like the captain is full, like a full Aussie bloke type guy. And at the end of every charter, he gives out an award. A derogatory award in which like, it's like a, “you need to improve your shit award” so and he's like, he, well and it's supposed to, you know bring camaraderie or, or, or tell the person that you know, like jokingly, they jokingly-not-joking, jokingly that they need to improve by calling it out very specifically. And the, the thing they have to do is actually wear a disco ball helmet. Like it's a motorcycle helmet that is completely covered in the in the small mirror squares.
Georgie 20:36
Yeah.
Geoff 20:37
So you wear it, you look like a disco ball. And I'm like, that's got to be the most Australian thing where it's sort of like a joke, not joke, but also, please get your shit together. But I'm not gonna actually tell you to get your shit together, kind of joke. It that's like super hard to explain to somebody who's outside of Australia. Whether they call you like a cheap, they can call you a cheap bastard. But you are, but they don't really care that you are, but also, please stop being a cheap bastard.
Georgie 21:12
Yeah.
Geoff 21:12
Anyways, the I brought up the list, here we go. Alcohol, declare it, animal horns, teeth and bones, should declare it. Anzac Day. What?
Georgie 21:24
Oh wow.
Geoff 21:24
This like a, you just declare Anzac Day? Oh do not bring—
Georgie 21:29
Poppies.
Geoff 21:29
Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, you don't bring or send bullet shells. Poppies, Rosemary. Oh, they’re just talking about Anzac Day esque items. Like Christmas.
Georgie 21:40
Paraphernalia.
Geoff 21:41
Yeah, automatic knives, flick knives, switch blades. Oh, my god, I had a swiss army knife—
Georgie 21:49
You told—oh right, no, I was gonna say you told the razor blade one.
Geoff 21:51
No, no, no, the swiss army knife one. So a friend of mine gave me a Swiss Army knife of my birthday present at one time. And I just put it on a keychain and just brought it everywhere with me. And then I just I tried to take it on a flight. And obviously, they they want me to get rid of it. And I'm like, crap. Why did I bring... of course you can't bring a Swiss army knife onto a plane. So I lost that a long time ago.
Georgie 22:07
Sucks.
Geoff 22:23
Yeah, I can't. Oh, was I like, was like flying from Perth to Sydney for the very first time. Like I was moving out. And I just had it on a keychain.
Georgie 22:36
Aw, sad.
Geoff 22:37
Yeah, through my mind. I was like, right. How do I how do I keep this keychain? Do, I mean this swiss army knife. Do I like bury it in a plant. So when I come back I like, dig it back out?
Georgie 22:47
Yeah but you’re already at the airport, right? You already?
Geoff 22:49
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 22:51
It sucks that they don't even give you the option. They're just like, You got to get rid of it. It's like too bad...
Geoff 22:56
Too sad.
Georgie 22:56
Too sad. (laughs) Is that an Australian thing?
Geoff 22:59
I don't know.
Georgie 23:01
How have I told you—
Geoff 23:02
Can I get a locker? Can I—
Georgie 23:03
Can I come back?
Geoff 23:04
Am I gonna call, I’m gonna call my dad to come back and pick it up from my from me. But like, yeah, I don't know. Nah what story sorry?
Georgie 23:13
The Nutella story?
Geoff 23:15
No.
Georgie 23:15
Oh shit.
Geoff 23:16
It's a bit weird. What's in Nutella?
Georgie 23:18
Yeah. Okay, so you know how you can't bring liquids onto a plane that past certain amount per—
Geoff 23:26
A hundred mils.
Georgie 23:26
100 mils per bottle, whatever. At, this was after that liquids restriction? Do you remember a time? Do you remember a time when those liquid restrictions were not a thing?
Geoff 23:38
Yes.
Georgie 23:38
Because I do. And like when I when I asked Nick like, do you remember—because Nick is a few years younger than me. I said do you remember a time when that was not a thing. And he said he didn't remember because his, he didn't travel with his family often. So it was just like the sort of like the first time they probably travelled was after, I think he said it was right after 911. So it was kind of like, ooh, everythin, the rules were already there as far as he knew. So shortly after they introduced the rules for liquid restrictions, my parents and I went to Indonesia, oh with my brother as well. Like our whole family went to Indonesia. And whenever we go and see our family there, we bring a lot of things for them. Usually a lot of like snacks and like food that they can't get over there.
Geoff 24:22
Krispy Kreme.
Georgie 24:24
Wait isn’t that just gonna melt on the—
Geoff 24:26
No, it's fine. I mean—
Georgie 24:28
Really?
Geoff 24:29
Yeah. I’ve taken—
Georgie 24:29
Can Krispy Kremes survive a seven hour flight?
Geoff 24:32
I don't know but I take I've taken it over to Perth at least once. Five-and-a0half, five hour flight. So you could, you could make it.
Georgie 24:40
Yeah?
Geoff 24:40
Then again, I'm not going to the Philippines. Now they're both hot.
Georgie 24:44
You mean Indonesia.
Geoff 24:45
Indonesia sorry, yeah.
Georgie 24:47
Wait which one’s, which one’s closer? I don't even know. I think Indonesia is closer. It's like right there. It's like above—
Geoff 24:53
You think that but you know what?
Georgie 24:54
You think that.
Geoff 24:55
Japan, japan it takes longer to do a direct flight from Perth to Japan, even though they’re on same, in the same time.
Georgie 25:01
Oh, the timezone.
Geoff 25:03
They're in the same slice, and then it's further than if they went, if you go from Sydney direct, like by an hour, but yeah.
Georgie 25:11
Yeah.
Geoff 25:11
It's a bit weird. Anyways, your Nutella.
Georgie 25:12
So we bring a bunch of food for our family, a lot of snacks and stuff. And my mom's just fixated on bringing, like, I think heavier things in the carry-on. I can't remember but for some reason—
Geoff 25:22
Interesting method.
Georgie 25:29
Yeah. I don't remember but just however she, however she packed stuff. I think she decided that the best place for the Nutella was not in the checked in luggage but like it was in the in the carry on. In a little suitcase. I think they might just fit whatever. Doesn't matter. It was literally like 25 years ago was something and they were probably about 10 jars in there. I don't know, don’t ask me. And they all got confiscated. We passed the security checkpoint because they said, this is liquids. This is considered liquid. My mum was so like disappointed. (laughs)
Geoff 26:06
I think the biggest bottle of Nutella—
Georgie 26:07
I just remember this endlessly.
Geoff 26:08
Yeah. The biggest bottle of Nutella is like 800 grams.
Georgie 26:12
Yeah, it must have been like in the 500 gram kind of thing. But because it's viscous. It's not solid. It's considered a liquid.
Geoff 26:23
Yeah.
Georgie 26:24
You could. Yeah, also snowglobes are an interesting one, which one of my friends pointed out you might not realise like if you're taking a snow globe as a souvenir, but that is actually counted as a liquid. Well, the liquid inside is counted as a liquid.
Geoff 26:37
I wonder how many people remember why we can't take liquids on—
Georgie 26:41
Because someone made it, oh, well, this is what I remember. Tell me if I'm wrong. Or if you're gonna look it up.
Geoff 26:47
I’m gonna look it up.
Georgie 26:48
What I remember it because I was in school, I think we were all in school, I think people our age were in school at the time. So so pretty young and maybe naive. Someone made a bomb on a plane in the cabin out of some liquids. Is that what, is that the story?
Geoff 27:06
I assume that it's possible to make a bomb with liquid so therefore they don't do it. “Transatlantic terrorist plot was foiled in August 2006. A group of ended group of individuals planned to detonate liquid explosive on board multiple flights. Since then, many airports ask that liquids be contained in a clear bag removed from bags to scan separately”. Nice. So even I mean, if you brought like five 100 mil bottles, they'll probably like okay, but they'd probably have scanned all five 100 mil bottles and you can make some kind of bomb with it.
Georgie 27:44
Yeah, so that's what I was saying. Like, you can have separate bottles with the same fluids.
Geoff 27:51
Yeah,.
Georgie 27:51
So and what if they were all like combustible or whatever. That's where—I dunno.
Geoff 27:57
Yeah.
Georgie 27:57
But I think maybe the whole point is to scan the types of liquids because one time I didn't empty my like reusable water bottle. And I left it in my bag. And this wasn't one of those smart scanning things. Where you—
Geoff 28:09
Yeah.
Georgie 28:10
Don’t have to take anything out. And I was like, oh, is it gonna... It got pulled over to the side and the guy was like just looking at the bags, looking at the scanny thing, not opening the bag. And I was like, I wonder if it's because I had like an almost full water bottle in there that it had to be looked at more carefully and he was like, I'm gonna have to put this one through again. I'm like, yeah, sure. Don't worry. No worries. And it went through fine.
Geoff 28:34
For, for the first—
Georgie 28:36
Water, just water.
Geoff 28:37
Yeah, I think for the first year or so after I got my fancy dancy bag and if those people don't know my bag has shelves in it. By shelves, I mean literal horizontal shelves and the if you look inside my bag looks like a pantry. But a small one. In any case, I remember when I used to go travelling, just I think within the first year of buying this bag, it would... So each of the shelves can actually fold into dividing into three different like sections. In any case, it's supposed to hold camera gear, so I had a camera, I had another lens, I had like the charging bag, I had all sorts of tech, the iPad, AirPods, whatever you can think of. So it was packed with loads of tech, lots of cables charging and stuff like that. So every time it goes through, I could tell 100% of the time that it would be put in again or I would be asked to like—
Georgie 29:44
Be searched?
Geoff 29:44
Look in it—
Georgie 29:44
Oh okay.
Geoff 29:46
Not to not to search for bombs, just like to open it. And I was, because I, every time I, because when I looked at on the on the monitor and this is probably before the smart scan as well. Or even when the smart scanners came out. They like they'll split my bag into like four different levels to try to figure out what the hell is in there. And like, it was just so foreign that they had to like scan it twice because it was just so dense that it was such in a weird configuration that they found it a little, like sus.
Georgie 30:16
That’s so funny.
Geoff 30:18
So anytime they take my bag, I'm like, yeah, I completely understand, it is just so strange to look inside the bag.
Georgie 30:27
I thought you were gonna say that they pulled you aside and was like, what's in your bag, or like, they want to search you because I feel like every time I took, and back when I had my DSLR, when I took my DSLR, my work laptop, and my personal laptop and a whole bunch of like just tech stuff.
Geoff 30:41
Exactly, right? Two laptops, everything.
Georgie 30:43
Yeah, I take it out, put it on the tray and stuff. And then they just like, hey, can we search? You're like, are you pro, are you just profiling me? Because I look like an innocent woman, but I have all this stuff, like the hacker or some sh...? I don't know, I maintain that it's not random, because there are so many times that I've been... searched.
Geoff 31:00
Picked up. The The other thing is that the smartscanners, I don't know how many people have how many countries have this. But it you don't have to take anything out of your bag. And so we've kind of spoke about, you can just put it in there. And the scanner is sort of like 3D instead of 2D. Usually it’ss just an x ray type thing. But with the 3D scanner, they can actually—
Georgie 31:24
Rotate it.
Geoff 31:25
Rotate. Yeah. Split all the layers apart because they can, like everything that looks like a cable can be split into one section. Everything looks a block goes to another section. Sydney is the only one that doesn't have one.
Georgie 31:38
In Australia?
Geoff 31:39
In Australia. I don't know, I haven't been to Victoria. No, not Victoria. I haven't been to South Australia or Northern Territory, but of the—
Georgie 31:46
Bullshit, Geoff, you can’t say that.
Geoff 31:47
Of the other ones, of the other ones.
Georgie 31:50
Wait do they have it in Tassie?
Geoff 31:51
I don’t know, not even, I don't know. Anyways, all the important states—
Georgie 31:55
I know Melbourne has one. Important! Oh my god, mean.
Geoff 31:56
I mean, because like, it's ridiculous, even Perth has it. And I'm gonna chalk this up to the fact that Perth has less traffic, they can refit retrofit there, or refit their equipment a lot faster. And Sydney is just way too many people.
Georgie 32:12
Sydney’s in fucking strife. Such a shit airport.
Geoff 32:15
It’s such a shit airport. So we take our stuff out in Sydney. And then when we're coming back to Sydney, it's like easy peasy. Just—
Georgie 32:24
Walk right in.
Geoff 32:24
Just walk through and then yeah, get on the plane. What is the other, yeah, yeah, Sydney's airport’s totally shit. If you want to catch an Uber, you have to walk like at least 10, 10, 10 minutes away from the front door of the airport to get to a different area to get picked up by an Uber or anybody else.
Georgie 32:48
Yeah. You can get the train which was advertised as being like, 15 minutes to the city.
Geoff 32:54
Yeah, do do... I don't think everyone knows this. And I was explaining this to my parents. It is like 10—it's $12 per adult to take that train.
Georgie 33:06
Oh is it, like—
Geoff 33:06
Or is it like 20 now?
Georgie 33:07
I thought it was 10 last time.
Geoff 33:09
Airport train cost. Yeah, I looked it up and my dad was like, what the hell? Like it's, it was 18 Yeah. $18? Or maybe 19? Almost $20.
Georgie 33:23
Depending on the time. Yeah. Because it's a fee on top of, so that's not all our public transport. That's just—
Geoff 33:29
Yeah.
Georgie 33:29
If you want to enter through the, through the airport gates, train station gates.
Geoff 33:37
Yeah—
Georgie 33:37
Don’t doxx me.
Geoff 33:37
It’s insane.
Georgie 33:38
Don’t doxx me. Geoff has this map. And it's like, it's got where I live on it, not where I live.
Geoff 33:46
The, yeah. And like—
Georgie 33:47
You can get a bus actually, as well. And this was all—
Geoff 33:49
Oh, can you?
Georgie 33:50
Yeah, although it's not direct. I think you still have to walk quite a bit, I think to Mascot or something. But it's a lot cheaper. If you're cool with that. And I saw this pop up on an Instagram Reel. And I think some people were hating on the on the tip. That this, I can't remember. Was just gonna say, that the account was giving, they were just giving a tip, like this is cheaper. And I dropped a comment saying something like, if you're in a party of more than two people, you're probably better off getting like an Uber because the cost of that will be like maybe $20 which, or something, $20, which is a lot cheaper than every single person in your party paying to get the train.
Geoff 34:35
Yeah, that's exactly what I told my, my dad, my dad’s like, oh, there's there's a train right? We'll just take that. And I said, well, last time I checked, it was actually $10 per person. And that was like, I don't know, a decade ago. So now it's like $20 per person and you and it's two of them. So you may as well take an Uber, 40 bucks, depending on—
Georgie 34:55
Yeah, depends on how far you are going to/from the airport, how many people with you, and what's convenient for you. Because like, convenient is for us is train, but it's not. Like, but then the Uber’s gonna take us back home to our door, right?
Geoff 35:12
Yeah, luggage.
Georgie 35:14
Yeah.
Geoff 35:17
That's the other thing. In Melbourne, the—
Georgie 35:23
Skybus?
Geoff 35:24
I've taken the Skybus, but the Uber is really weird.
Georgie 35:28
OK, I always take the Skybus.
Geoff 35:30
Really?
Georgie 35:31
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 35:32
Yeah. So Uber, as everyone knows, you kind of open your phone. The whole point is that you open the phone and you just tap where you want to go. And then the car comes up and picks you up. And you get to see where it is. In Melbourne, it's almost like a taxi rank.
Georgie 35:47
Oh, you have to go to a dedicated space. Right, you, I think you were saying this last time, not last time but sometime ago.
Geoff 35:52
Sometime, yeah so you open you open your phone. I think I think maybe it's when I came back from Melbourne. But yeah, you open your phone, you pick a place you want to go, you get a code, and then you line up. And then you get into an Uber and you give them the code and it's like, what's going on?
Georgie 36:05
Nah, Skybus it, man.
Geoff 36:07
Skybus it
Georgie 36:08
You can buy your, the Skybus tickets ahead of time as well. It's just easy. There’s,, not that I've used it but there's free Wi Fi on the Skybus.
Geoff 36:16
Yeah, I think I've done the Skybus at least once. I can't remember.
Georgie 36:20
It's quite frequent as well. I think. I don't know if it was like every 10, 15 minutes. Like it's honestly not bad. You don't have to walk very far, either.
Geoff 36:27
Yeah.
Georgie 36:28
It might even be closer than your Uber Uber rank because I've never seen it. What do you do in Perth? You personally?
Geoff 36:36
I get fam, family picks me up.
Georgie 36:38
Oh, fuck off.
Geoff 36:40
There's no reason.
Georgie 36:41
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 36:42
We have a thing with our family it’s like, if family is coming in town, like family will pick you up.
Georgie 36:47
Yeah.
Geoff 36:48
Yeah.
Georgie 36:48
What would you, if you? Like, what would you recommend?
Geoff 36:52
Oh, I'd probably recommend an Uber because honestly.
Georgie 36:55
I did the right thing then back in, when was the last time I was there, 2017, 2016.
Geoff 36:59
there is a train being built now. I think the train there's a train now. But it's not like, it only goes to the city. It literally stops you, oh where is it. It's not entirely the most convenient thing and it only goes to the airport. So you never take it for anything else. But like, you go into a hotel in the city, which probably makes sense. I don't know why it would stop anywhere in between or continue going past the city, to, I don't know Subiaco. And you can—
Georgie 37:33
Yeah. Okay, because I think every single time I've stayed in Perth has not been in the city. It's been in—
Geoff 37:39
Really?
Georgie 37:40
Yeah, I think I think I stayed in. Oh, shit. I stayed in East Perth.
Geoff 37:47
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
Georgie 37:49
For the first time. And then the next time I think I stayed in West Perth.
Geoff 37:55
(laughs)
Georgie 37:55
And I think the time after that I stayed in West Perth as well. Like, yeah, kind of near like Subiaco. Kind of.
Geoff 38:00
Yeah, I think the train actually stops you closer to East Perth than—
Georgie 38:04
Oh I stayed in Northbridge once. I like Northbridge.
Geoff 38:07
Northbridge? Yeah, yeah, you would. (laughs)
Georgie 38:09
(laughs) Yeah.
Geoff 38:12
It’s like—
Georgie 38:12
This screams Georgie.
Geoff 38:13
It's like Perth's Newtown.
Georgie 38:15
Yeah it is.
Geoff 38:17
So yeah, Perth is a, Perth’s a fun place. Not really?
Georgie 38:23
It's okay. Isn't there a hashtag, “Perth is okay”.
Geoff 38:25
Perth. Perth is okay. My friend always says like, oh give it 10 years. It'll be great. It has been 10 years and it is kind of great now, like you get more variety and food, Uniqlo is there. Like, it’s been—
Georgie 38:39
Yeah, yeah—
Geoff 38:39
That's my mark.
Georgie 38:40
You know what I found so funny, is the malls. Or the mall. It was just like so dated. It reminded me of like an old Stockland mall that I was. I went to in Merrylands here, like from the 90s like that, old, there’s this thing about department stores, right? Like Myer. And the floor is just different. It has that weird, do you I don't know if you know what I mean. But the corner there's the tiled floors, between carpeted areas where there's clothes and toys and stuff. And the carpeted areas come into a point like this, like a bezel, or like a, like a bevelled kind of like it's not a full—
Geoff 39:17
Oh, it's not a point.
Georgie 39:19
It comes in the corners being cut off of the carpet bit. And it's so I feel like it's so indicative of the style of like a 90s mall. (laughs)
Geoff 39:28
My god, don't get me started about—
Georgie 39:29
...it was like that.
Geoff 39:30
Parra, Parramatta has this—
Georgie 39:32
Yes?
Geoff 39:33
Myers or is it David Jones?
Georgie 39:35
So Parramatta’s—
Geoff 39:35
It's just floors and floors and floor and you just like no joke, we park in the parking lot.
Georgie 39:41
Wait, how often do you go there?
Geoff 39:43
Not very often.
Georgie 39:44
Because that used to be my, it used to be my, what do you call it, hangout.
Geoff 39:47
Hangout spot.
Georgie 39:48
Fucking Parramatta.
Geoff 39:48
But it's just, it's just one it's, it's, it's this is one time we weren't, we were in a rush, and we parked in the parking lot and I can't remember we were late in the after, late or pretty early. I think we were early, and Myers was closed. And the staircase only takes you to floors in Myer. So we're like eight floors, and it's all just Myers, eight is over exaggeration, and like sometimes the door, the shutters are open—
Georgie 40:17
There are eight floors.
Geoff 40:17
Okay, the shutters are—
Georgie 40:19
Eight, eight, no wait, hang on wait. Six, seven, eight, are carpark.
Geoff 40:22
Okay. Yeah.
Georgie 40:23
Parking lot for you in the US.
Geoff 40:24
The shutter is open, you can go into Myer, but then like, it's not open on the other side. So you can't get inside the building. We just wanted to leave the parking lot.
Georgie 40:34
Oh shit.
Geoff 40:34
And it's just a big hellhole trap of you in Myer, that's not open yet.
Georgie 40:41
Wait, hang on. You were, what time was it?
Geoff 40:43
I think this was early. I think this was before it open. So it's like—
Georgie 40:46
And you parked.
Geoff 40:46
Eight, 8am. And we parked. On one of the three floors. And to exit the parking lot.
Georgie 40:52
And you walked in to the—you just wanted to go into the building.
Geoff 40:56
We wanted to exit the parking lot entirely. So the only way we could see is to go up into Myers and then out into the into the shopping centre and then out through the front door of the shopping centre.
Georgie 41:07
Yeah, that's correct.
Geoff 41:08
Yeah. But every every level.
Georgie 41:11
You couldn’t go into—
Geoff 41:12
It was closed.
Georgie 41:13
So you were stuck in—
Geoff 41:14
In the frickin staircase. And then the elevator was so slow One of them was broken and like the other one was going and there was like a bunch of people trying to get out of this building.
Georgie 41:23
I think there's a different way, like not, I think we're Have you entered went straight to Myer, right.
Geoff 41:28
Yeah.
Georgie 41:29
There's a way that doesn't go straight to Myer.
Geoff 41:31
Yeah, I figured.
Georgie 41:32
It's like, and I prob, I think the elevators are larger as well. So it would be more noticeable.
Geoff 41:36
Yeah.
Georgie 41:37
To like, a set of two. And they’re the one, the common ones that go through the entire middle of the building.
Geoff 41:46
Yeah, so it was an ordeal. We couldn’t, couldn’t leave. We were just trapped.
Georgie 41:51
Have I, have I told you that time, I got almost trapped in a fire escape. (laughs)
Geoff 41:55
You can tell it next episode, because...
Georgie 41:59
It's on my blog somewhere if anyone doesn't want to wait.
Geoff 42:03
So you can follow us on @toastroastpod on...
Georgie 42:07
X.
Geoff 42:08
X. We still have to talk about that actually, maybe we'll talk about it, next episode. X.
Georgie 42:14
You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you find your podcast—wait, what else do we have? Overcast, some listen on Overcast. Chrome or somethng.
Geoff 42:25
Yeah.
Georgie 42:25
Amazon or whatever you listen on, and the big big carpark that you get lost in.
Geoff 42:32
Fucking get out of it. So see you, yeah, so see you next week.
Georgie 42:38
Bye.