Toast & Roast

104: Grab your coffee below deck

Episode Summary

A mishmash of things this episode: cafes closing at 2pm, never seeing the sea whilst working on a boat, and airport train station fees.

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A mishmash of things this episode: cafes closing at 2pm, never seeing the sea whilst working on a boat, and airport train station fees.

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Geoff  0:09  

Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I'm your co host Georgie and I'm here with Geoff.

 

Yo, it's Geoff.

 

Georgie  0:19  

With a G.

 

Geoff  0:21  

With the G and the E and the O and the F F. I still get the like occasional Jack.

 

Georgie  0:30  

Jack?

 

Geoff  0:31  

Yeah, actually, we're we're waiting for a lot in line for food the other day. We purchase then, and then they ask for your name. And then you go round to the side and pick up right. Same with Starbucks, I guess. And no joke. This person said something that sounded like Geoff, like every order. Every everybody's like, Jack, James, Jeff. Like, in the in that range?

 

Georgie  0:59  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  1:00  

And English is not his first language. So it's pronounciation. So I was like, no, no, yeah, no, no, that's not mine, nevermind. And then there's other people who are also Jack and James who are like—

 

Georgie  1:10  

Jen?

 

Geoff  1:11  

Jen. Yeah, like going oh, oh, no. Yeah, this is mine, I ordered this. So—

 

Georgie  1:17  

Jim.

 

Geoff  1:17  

On a, Jimmy, Jimbo.

 

Georgie  1:21  

John.

 

Geoff  1:22  

Jacob. Jingle...heimer schmidt? Do you not know this one?

 

Georgie  1:28  

No?

 

Geoff  1:29  

There's a rhyme, it’s a song. It goes “John, Jacob, Jingleheimer Schmidt, his name is my name too, whenever we go out the people always shout, there goes John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt”. And that's, that's the song.

 

Georgie  1:46  

I’ve never heard of it.

 

Geoff  1:47  

Yeah, great. I had to just sing all of it. Um, so yeah, anyways, so it was a bit of a touch and go situation where like, I am not entitled, I'm just gonna go up and see what the food is. If it's like the thing I ordered, I will, I will just take it. And I think, I think the end, I saw the tag, and it was like, J. J. E, something. Like they had, like, completely butchered the spelling altogether.

 

Georgie  2:19  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  2:21  

But I think we should really go into this whole name thing.

 

Georgie  2:23  

Have you seen the “mark with a C”? I think we've talked about this?

 

Geoff  2:27  

Mark with a C? I know someone who's Marc with a C.

 

Georgie  2:30  

Okay, so I think it might have been on Reddit or Im—how do you pronounce it Imgur? Imager?

 

Geoff  2:37  

“Imager”?

 

Georgie  2:37  

Imager. Someone took a photo of their star, I think it was Starbucks, of a coffee cup which had their name on it. And they said I told the barista “My name is Mark with a C” and they'd written, they’d written, C, A, R, K. (laughs)

 

Geoff  2:55  

(laughs) Yeah, cark. Ah man.

 

Georgie  2:59  

It never never gets old.

 

Geoff  3:01  

Never gets old. We're at Starbucks the other day actually. And we ordered some drinks and this person, was it behind us or in front of us? Either way, this person ordered very close to ours. And we walked around to the pickup end. And the barista came to the to the, to drop something off. They put the cup down. And that person immediately went up to to see if it was their order. And I’m like, in what world do you think that from the time you ordered, to the time you walked, like one, two metres away, that your order would be finished? It was like... I would not assume, but that was that was very special.

 

Georgie  3:46  

Both of you to assume that's your drink.

 

Geoff  3:49  

Yes. And they almost took it too, they just picked they picked it up, almost, and they're like wait, this is not my drink. Of course it's not your drink. You just ordered like two seconds ago.

 

Georgie  4:00  

They literally think Starbucks—

 

Geoff  4:01  

Service—

 

Georgie  4:01  

...is a machine.

 

Geoff  4:02  

Yeah. Literally a machine—actually. I mean most people who get Starbucks like Starbucks coffee. You should just, oh—

 

Georgie  4:12  

I have a theory about—

 

Geoff  4:12  

I wonder if that will come up in the recording. The washing just finished anyways.

 

Georgie  4:18  

Yeah, I had a brief period of time before I drink coffee regularly where I was just drinking like those Starbucks beverages that have sugar and stuff in them.

 

Geoff  4:27  

Isn’t that all?

 

Georgie  4:28  

When I say sugar and stuff I—pardon?

 

Geoff  4:30  

Isn’t it all of them?

 

Georgie  4:31  

Yeah, I guess the more the frappuccinos with the with the whipped cream.

 

Geoff  4:36  

That's my jam.

 

Georgie  4:37  

My lactose intolerance was like, “I will deal with this”. Reader, it did not.

 

Geoff  4:46  

But yeah, I know that people look down on Starbucks. They have was like a few good hits.

 

Georgie  4:51  

Yeah, if you, if you want some sweet hit of sugar and in some warm or more cold beverage Just like go, like, go for it. The coffee though is not that great. If you're in a pinch, go for it. Like if it's—do they even close late these days?

 

Geoff  5:11  

Ah, not the one that's our one, like inside the Westfield.

 

Georgie  5:14  

But they’re not like your, you know, specialty coffee shop that literally closes at fucking 2pm.

 

Geoff  5:20  

Oh yeah, they don't get business after two? No way.

 

Georgie  5:24  

But yeah, that's that's when you, that's when I would I would say you order Starbucks, is you, you need to. Just out of necessity.

 

Geoff  5:31  

It’s really, it's actually really strange we we were in we were looking at the other stuff that Starbucks sells. And usually—

 

Georgie  5:39  

Food?

 

Geoff  5:40  

Yeah, usually you go there in a pinch, right? You're like you need a quick bagel, quick sandwich or whatever. But it's inside of Westfield. So I feel like it's not quite the right place to have quick pickup food. You're not in the CBD. No one's rushing around in a Westfield perhaps looking for a bagel, like, between, I don't know, the various shops that are around. If you wanted food, food, there's like a food court upstairs. So yeah, yeah, it might it might, it might not work out so well in this environment, but whatever.

 

Georgie  6:18  

I think people like the sort of familiarity of like, this chain is in some places, and I'm familiar with it. And there's a place to sit. Like, is there a Starbucks that doesn't have a place to sit? Like that's the other thing I don't mind about it.

 

Geoff  6:32  

That's true. They're basically the de facto like, we can sit here forever with free Wi Fi. Were they first cafe to really popularise a chain that had free Wi Fi at a cafe of some sort. Yeah, possibly.

 

Georgie  6:47  

Possibly. Because I remember when I was in school, I think that we had quite a few Starbucks, and then they all disappeared, and they came back again. And I'm talking like 20 years ago, probably was when they started popping up in malls and stuff. And then maybe about 10 years after that. You weren't, they all closed down for whatever reason, I can't remember. And then now there's there's still a few in the city. But I think they were the first sort of, come here and chill and free Wi Fi and stuff.

 

Geoff  7:22  

Yeah. Will guilt you into buying expensive sugar drinks. I've been watching a horrible show.

 

Georgie  7:31  

Oh, love to hear it.

 

Geoff  7:33  

Yeah, it's called Below Deck.

 

Georgie  7:36  

Can I guess—

 

Geoff  7:36  

Have you heard of it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, this is great. Go for it, what do you think it's about?

 

Georgie  7:42  

I have no knowledge of any of the shows that are out these days or even in the past decade or so.

 

Geoff  7:47  

Decade. (llaughs)

 

Georgie  7:50  

It sounds like it could be about cruise ships. Maybe. This is quite specific, actually. But one idea is that it could be about the people who work on a cruise ship, but you don't really see them because they're below, Below Deck. Other things, could it be like a poker or like a casino thing like talking about a deck of cards. Although the phrase “Below Deck” doesn't really lend itself to gambling.

 

Geoff  8:21  

You're right on the money. The first one.

 

Georgie  8:23  

Yes. Yes. Okay. I want to know, though, why you find, so you said it's boring?

 

Geoff  8:30  

It's it's like, bad, boring. It's interesting. It's an interesting concept. And I talked about this with my sister very briefly, but I essentially I was like, This is a weird concept because it's kind of boring, but you also kind of want to watch it. And you're right. It's about the crew who operate a super yacht. And we're talking like it can bear, it can bed like eight people. Like they have eight guests at a time.

 

Georgie  8:59  

So it's not a cruise, but it's like—

 

Geoff  9:01  

Yeah, but it's a it's a private it's a private super yacht that people book.

 

Georgie  9:07  

A super yacht needs a small crew of people?

 

Geoff  9:10  

Yeah, the crew is actually what 3, 6, 7, 8? Probably yeah, the crew is also 8. Nine, nine. The crew is nine.

 

Georgie  9:22  

How many passengers are there?

 

Geoff  9:24  

Eight passengers. Nine crew.

 

Georgie  9:26  

Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, no—

 

Geoff  9:27  

And it can—

 

Georgie  9:28  

I've heard of this, yeah.

 

Geoff  9:29  

Yeah. And can bed all of them.

 

Georgie  9:31  

Like when you hire a yacht, like, people need to run the damn thing.

 

Geoff  9:34  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Georgie  9:37  

Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Geoff  9:37  

Yeah. They never tell you how much it is. But they but they do say that these people are paying thousands and thousands of dollars every now and then. And I think it's probably in the realm of 60 to $80,000. And it's only two nights, it's a three day charter.

 

Georgie  9:52  

OK. So—

 

Geoff  9:54  

Anyways.

 

Georgie  9:54  

Expensive stuff. Yep.

 

Geoff  9:56  

The reason why it's really weird is because it's well These, the one that I'm watching is the Australian one. And they're all so unprofessional. It's ridiculous.

 

Georgie  10:06  

Is it like a reality show, or?

 

Geoff  10:06  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  10:07  

Like a documentary?

 

Geoff  10:08  

No, it's reality. And this is the this is the thing. It's reality is about a deck crew who are wildly unprofessional, in most sense, in most sense of the word. And it's a service industry that you often don't see. So the interesting thing is that it’s a certain industry that you never see. And I mean, I don't know how many people I know that can avoid to book a super yacht. So that's interesting. But all of these people wildly, like they're inappropriate. They do, they, they don't treat each other, professionally. And it’s all this gossip and crap. And by no means this is par for the course, this is par for the course when reality shows that, right?

 

Georgie  10:58  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  10:59  

But the weird thing is that it's all on TV. So—

 

Georgie  11:02  

Someone had to film it, is that what you’re getting at?

 

Geoff  11:06  

Well, you also have the film crew, which is also interesting, where they put the film crew, but it's sort of like not a good business move. I think, like, if you saw this crew, which you wouldn't want them to, you wouldn't want to book them, is it's not like a good business move. They look terrible. Like the chef really doesn't want to cook anything that the, that the passengers want to eat.

 

Georgie  11:34  

Are you sure this is not dramatised in some way?

 

Geoff  11:37  

I don't I don't know. But why would anyone want to dramatise their business like this? To make themselves look bad? On purpose? Right.

 

Georgie  11:47  

Entertainment.

 

Geoff  11:49  

Yeah, so that I don't book your super yacht. Which is interesting. In any case, they they boat out in Whitsundays. I’ve never been or heard of the place? I've heard of it. I've never seen it.

 

Georgie  12:01  

It’s up in Queensland, it's like, where, the beaches are like white sand and like—

 

Geoff  12:04  

Yeah, lots of coral. So you get to see them. They snorkel and scuba and stuff like that. And it's quite an interesting operation to watch. But, yeah, just, I don’t understand why—

 

Georgie  12:18  

So do the crew stay on the yacht? Do they also get to, or do you, or are you seeing pass the passengers enjoying the snorkelling and stuff?

 

Geoff  12:26  

The crew, the crew sometimes like so the crew have to take them out snorkelling, and stuff like that. So they have the opportunity to sometimes go and join the passengers for some of these activities. So it's, it's kind of good. But the crew generally stay on the boat and they do a huge rotation like it as soon as like, the guests get out of their bedrooms, they do the turndown service and stuff like that, just like a hotel would do when you're like when you're out and about. But these are all really close quarters. And—

 

Georgie  13:00  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  13:01  

You don't get to go home at the end of the day. And like unwind, you're you're with the crew 24/7.

 

Georgie  13:07  

So I've actually been on a one cruise, which was a sample cruise, so it doesn't really count. It just went up and back for like a couple nights. And we decided to do the tour of the Below Deck and the in the crew and stuff. So there was some very interesting things. And even though I don't remember a lot of what they shared or talked about, it was a while ago, and I probably wasn't super interested. But Nick was really interested. So I was like of course, I’ll come join, some of the some of the members don't even see above deck ever. Kike you never see them. And so they're working all the time in, like cruise ships are huge, but they're working all the time Below Deck, they don't even see the outside world, the sun, the, I don’t know, very strange.

 

Geoff  13:54  

Immortal people. The chef generally doesn't come out he only comes out to serve some food sometimes. But yeah, he's, he's like, in the he's either sleeping or cooking or bitching in this case. So why do I say this is like, you, like the Australian one is particularly annoying because the people aren't very, very nice or professional. But there's a whole bunch of other ones like Below Deck Mediterranean, which they recommended, Below Deck of other places. I don't know how many Below Decks there are, but it's a popular concept somehow. Despite it's very strange...

 

Georgie  14:39  

It seems really niche. Oh, wow. Rocked by sexual misconduct. Okay, let's—

 

Geoff  14:45  

Yikes, sexual misconduct. Let's go here, Below Deck. Yeah. Oh, man. Was that spoilers?

 

Georgie  14:55  

I mean, whoops.

 

Geoff  14:57  

Whoops. Below Deck sailing, Below Deck Sailing Yacht, Below Deck Down Under, and Below Deck Adventure, which I think might be the American one.

 

Georgie  15:07  

The logo looks familiar. I think maybe I've seen snippets of it, but I don't think it would have been the Australian one.

 

Geoff  15:14  

Mercury. Fjords of Norway. See, this is kind of interesting sometimes when you get to see where they are like Below Deck Down Under maybe if you're Australian, it's kind of meh.

 

Georgie  15:26  

Down Under.

 

Geoff  15:27  

Yeah. But yeah, my God, this is a whole sorts of misconduct on the board, on board these onboard the ship and I'm like, I don't think they should be showing anyone this. And like that article alludes to, you can see some shit that might not be entirely, not not illegal, but yeah. Uncouth. But it might just because they're Australian.

 

Georgie  15:55  

Wait are you implying we’re like, raunchy fuckers?

 

Geoff  15:59  

No? Well, technically, actually, not all the crew are Australian. I think like half of them are American ones. And one of those Polish. The Captain’s Australian.

 

Georgie  16:08  

Are they Australian citizens or something?

 

Geoff  16:12  

I think you can work on the boat as a under work visa or something like that.

 

Georgie  16:16  

So is it just that the thing is—

 

Geoff  16:19  

Yeah, it's based in Australia.

 

Georgie  16:20  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  16:22  

Yeah. Based in Australia. In any case, I've been trying to see if there's any thing like worth watching and it’s just in, sometimes in the background, because it's just noise.

 

Georgie  16:33  

Just bullshit?

 

Geoff  16:34  

Yeah, I've I've quickly run out of just some kind of show to watch.

 

Georgie  16:40  

You know what show you should watch in the background, which will probably end up being the background? Border Security.

 

Geoff  16:46  

Oh no. Border Security. That's yeah, Border Security is an interesting one. I've never seen I've never actually watch-watched it.

 

Georgie  16:57  

Really?

 

Geoff  16:59  

But—

 

Georgie  16:59  

Not even—

 

Geoff  16:59  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  17:00  

Have you seen short videos?

 

Geoff  17:03  

No, I've never seen, I don't see any of it.

 

Georgie  17:05  

Wait do you, you know what it’s about though, right?

 

Geoff  17:07  

Yeah. Do we? Is it the Australian one? There’s an Australian one, there’s an American one?

 

Georgie  17:12  

The Australian one. The Australian one. So my mum’s—

 

Geoff  17:16  

It’s got 68%. What about Canada, Canada is way better. 73%.

 

Georgie  17:19  

I've never actually watched the other ones. But the one that I laugh about is the Australian one because you know how they. So it's about what happens at the airport. Like when people want to cross the border.

 

Geoff  17:29  

Alright.

 

Georgie  17:31  

You know what it's like. So, for anyone listening, who's not Australian has never even been here, or exited here or whatever. We have very stringent laws, when it comes to what you can bring into the country. And a lot of visitors find this very funny. Like, we will not let you bring generally I think to sum it up, because it can be confusing, unfortunately, if English is your second language and you're reading the form that you have to fill in, it can be quite difficult to understand like, what am I actually allowed and what am I not, but to put it simply, we don't allow any fresh food, fresh meat. Everything has to be sort of like, processed, yeah we don't let you bring any plants any natural stuff, no seeds. My friend did ask me the other day because this is how I remembered it. And my friend is from the US. She said, can you bring like seeds that are like food? I’m like oh yeah, I think like, if you've got, like—

 

Geoff  18:34  

Oh like cashews?

 

Georgie  18:36  

Yeah, like nuts and seeds, that's fine, but you can't bring like a—

 

Geoff  18:40  

Sunflower.

 

Georgie  18:40  

Like in a plant. Yeah.

 

Geoff  18:42  

Oh.

 

Georgie  18:42  

So I remember one time I got some random. I don't know if it was a souvenir. But I went somewhere in Japan and they gave us seeds to plant like something. And I tried to take them back knowing that they might take it so like when when we were asked what do you have? I said I have these, am I allowed to take, they’re like no sorry, you can't bring seeds and plants. And if your shoes have been in like what fresh water or you've been on farms and stuff, they will sometimes check your shoes. Anyway, this Border Security show is carefully carefully curated selection of incidents, at Sydney, is it Sydney? I guess it’s Sydney? Nah mostly Sydney, actually, I don't know but airports around Australia and they kind of make the person who's coming into the country look like a fool. I think someone said it's actually quite racist because it seems to be always like Vietnamese men being interrogated.

 

Geoff  19:47  

Yeah, that's something about Below Deck as well. It's like the captain is full, like a full Aussie bloke type guy. And at the end of every charter, he gives out an award. A derogatory award in which like, it's like a, “you need to improve your shit award” so and he's like, he, well and it's supposed to, you know bring camaraderie or, or, or tell the person that you know, like jokingly, they jokingly-not-joking, jokingly that they need to improve by calling it out very specifically. And the, the thing they have to do is actually wear a disco ball helmet. Like it's a motorcycle helmet that is completely covered in the in the small mirror squares.

 

Georgie  20:36  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  20:37  

So you wear it, you look like a disco ball. And I'm like, that's got to be the most Australian thing where it's sort of like a joke, not joke, but also, please get your shit together. But I'm not gonna actually tell you to get your shit together, kind of joke. It that's like super hard to explain to somebody who's outside of Australia. Whether they call you like a cheap, they can call you a cheap bastard. But you are, but they don't really care that you are, but also, please stop being a cheap bastard.

 

Georgie  21:12  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  21:12  

Anyways, the I brought up the list, here we go. Alcohol, declare it, animal horns, teeth and bones, should declare it. Anzac Day. What?

 

Georgie  21:24  

Oh wow.

 

Geoff  21:24  

This like a, you just declare Anzac Day? Oh do not bring—

 

Georgie  21:29  

Poppies.

 

Geoff  21:29  

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, you don't bring or send bullet shells. Poppies, Rosemary. Oh, they’re just talking about Anzac Day esque items. Like Christmas.

 

Georgie  21:40  

Paraphernalia.

 

Geoff  21:41  

Yeah, automatic knives, flick knives, switch blades. Oh, my god, I had a swiss army knife—

 

Georgie  21:49  

You told—oh right, no, I was gonna say you told the razor blade one.

 

Geoff  21:51  

No, no, no, the swiss army knife one. So a friend of mine gave me a Swiss Army knife of my birthday present at one time. And I just put it on a keychain and just brought it everywhere with me. And then I just I tried to take it on a flight. And obviously, they they want me to get rid of it. And I'm like, crap. Why did I bring... of course you can't bring a Swiss army knife onto a plane. So I lost that a long time ago.

 

Georgie  22:07  

Sucks.

 

Geoff  22:23  

Yeah, I can't. Oh, was I like, was like flying from Perth to Sydney for the very first time. Like I was moving out. And I just had it on a keychain.

 

Georgie  22:36  

Aw, sad.

 

Geoff  22:37  

Yeah, through my mind. I was like, right. How do I how do I keep this keychain? Do, I mean this swiss army knife. Do I like bury it in a plant. So when I come back I like, dig it back out?

 

Georgie  22:47  

Yeah but you’re already at the airport, right? You already?

 

Geoff  22:49  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Georgie  22:51  

It sucks that they don't even give you the option. They're just like, You got to get rid of it. It's like too bad...

 

Geoff  22:56  

Too sad.

 

Georgie  22:56  

Too sad. (laughs) Is that an Australian thing?

 

Geoff  22:59  

I don't know.

 

Georgie  23:01  

How have I told you—

 

Geoff  23:02  

Can I get a locker? Can I—

 

Georgie  23:03  

Can I come back?

 

Geoff  23:04  

Am I gonna call, I’m gonna call my dad to come back and pick it up from my from me. But like, yeah, I don't know. Nah what story sorry?

 

Georgie  23:13  

The Nutella story?

 

Geoff  23:15  

No.

 

Georgie  23:15  

Oh shit.

 

Geoff  23:16  

It's a bit weird. What's in Nutella?

 

Georgie  23:18  

Yeah. Okay, so you know how you can't bring liquids onto a plane that past certain amount per—

 

Geoff  23:26  

A hundred mils.

 

Georgie  23:26  

100 mils per bottle, whatever. At, this was after that liquids restriction? Do you remember a time? Do you remember a time when those liquid restrictions were not a thing?

 

Geoff  23:38  

Yes.

 

Georgie  23:38  

Because I do. And like when I when I asked Nick like, do you remember—because Nick is a few years younger than me. I said do you remember a time when that was not a thing. And he said he didn't remember because his, he didn't travel with his family often. So it was just like the sort of like the first time they probably travelled was after, I think he said it was right after 911. So it was kind of like, ooh, everythin, the rules were already there as far as he knew. So shortly after they introduced the rules for liquid restrictions, my parents and I went to Indonesia, oh with my brother as well. Like our whole family went to Indonesia. And whenever we go and see our family there, we bring a lot of things for them. Usually a lot of like snacks and like food that they can't get over there.

 

Geoff  24:22  

Krispy Kreme.

 

Georgie  24:24  

Wait isn’t that just gonna melt on the—

 

Geoff  24:26  

No, it's fine. I mean—

 

Georgie  24:28  

Really?

 

Geoff  24:29  

Yeah. I’ve taken—

 

Georgie  24:29  

Can Krispy Kremes survive a seven hour flight?

 

Geoff  24:32  

I don't know but I take I've taken it over to Perth at least once. Five-and-a0half, five hour flight. So you could, you could make it.

 

Georgie  24:40  

Yeah?

 

Geoff  24:40  

Then again, I'm not going to the Philippines. Now they're both hot.

 

Georgie  24:44  

You mean Indonesia.

 

Geoff  24:45  

Indonesia sorry, yeah.

 

Georgie  24:47  

Wait which one’s, which one’s closer? I don't even know. I think Indonesia is closer. It's like right there. It's like above—

 

Geoff  24:53  

You think that but you know what?

 

Georgie  24:54  

You think that.

 

Geoff  24:55  

Japan, japan it takes longer to do a direct flight from Perth to Japan, even though they’re on same, in the same time.

 

Georgie  25:01  

Oh, the timezone.

 

Geoff  25:03  

They're in the same slice, and then it's further than if they went, if you go from Sydney direct, like by an hour, but yeah.

 

Georgie  25:11  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  25:11  

It's a bit weird. Anyways, your Nutella.

 

Georgie  25:12  

So we bring a bunch of food for our family, a lot of snacks and stuff. And my mom's just fixated on bringing, like, I think heavier things in the carry-on. I can't remember but for some reason—

 

Geoff  25:22  

Interesting method.

 

Georgie  25:29  

Yeah. I don't remember but just however she, however she packed stuff. I think she decided that the best place for the Nutella was not in the checked in luggage but like it was in the in the carry on. In a little suitcase. I think they might just fit whatever. Doesn't matter. It was literally like 25 years ago was something and they were probably about 10 jars in there. I don't know, don’t ask me. And they all got confiscated. We passed the security checkpoint because they said, this is liquids. This is considered liquid. My mum was so like disappointed. (laughs)

 

Geoff  26:06  

I think the biggest bottle of Nutella—

 

Georgie  26:07  

I just remember this endlessly.

 

Geoff  26:08  

Yeah. The biggest bottle of Nutella is like 800 grams.

 

Georgie  26:12  

Yeah, it must have been like in the 500 gram kind of thing. But because it's viscous. It's not solid. It's considered a liquid.

 

Geoff  26:23  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  26:24  

You could. Yeah, also snowglobes are an interesting one, which one of my friends pointed out you might not realise like if you're taking a snow globe as a souvenir, but that is actually counted as a liquid. Well, the liquid inside is counted as a liquid.

 

Geoff  26:37  

I wonder how many people remember why we can't take liquids on—

 

Georgie  26:41  

Because someone made it, oh, well, this is what I remember. Tell me if I'm wrong. Or if you're gonna look it up.

 

Geoff  26:47  

I’m gonna look it up.

 

Georgie  26:48  

What I remember it because I was in school, I think we were all in school, I think people our age were in school at the time. So so pretty young and maybe naive. Someone made a bomb on a plane in the cabin out of some liquids. Is that what, is that the story?

 

Geoff  27:06  

I assume that it's possible to make a bomb with liquid so therefore they don't do it. “Transatlantic terrorist plot was foiled in August 2006. A group of ended group of individuals planned to detonate liquid explosive on board multiple flights. Since then, many airports ask that liquids be contained in a clear bag removed from bags to scan separately”. Nice. So even I mean, if you brought like five 100 mil bottles, they'll probably like okay, but they'd probably have scanned all five 100 mil bottles and you can make some kind of bomb with it.

 

Georgie  27:44  

Yeah, so that's what I was saying. Like, you can have separate bottles with the same fluids.

 

Geoff  27:51  

Yeah,.

 

Georgie  27:51  

So and what if they were all like combustible or whatever. That's where—I dunno.

 

Geoff  27:57  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  27:57  

But I think maybe the whole point is to scan the types of liquids because one time I didn't empty my like reusable water bottle. And I left it in my bag. And this wasn't one of those smart scanning things. Where you—

 

Geoff  28:09  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  28:10  

Don’t have to take anything out. And I was like, oh, is it gonna... It got pulled over to the side and the guy was like just looking at the bags, looking at the scanny thing, not opening the bag. And I was like, I wonder if it's because I had like an almost full water bottle in there that it had to be looked at more carefully and he was like, I'm gonna have to put this one through again. I'm like, yeah, sure. Don't worry. No worries. And it went through fine.

 

Geoff  28:34  

For, for the first—

 

Georgie  28:36  

Water, just water.

 

Geoff  28:37  

Yeah, I think for the first year or so after I got my fancy dancy bag and if those people don't know my bag has shelves in it. By shelves, I mean literal horizontal shelves and the if you look inside my bag looks like a pantry. But a small one. In any case, I remember when I used to go travelling, just I think within the first year of buying this bag, it would... So each of the shelves can actually fold into dividing into three different like sections. In any case, it's supposed to hold camera gear, so I had a camera, I had another lens, I had like the charging bag, I had all sorts of tech, the iPad, AirPods, whatever you can think of. So it was packed with loads of tech, lots of cables charging and stuff like that. So every time it goes through, I could tell 100% of the time that it would be put in again or I would be asked to like—

 

Georgie  29:44  

Be searched?

 

Geoff  29:44  

Look in it—

 

Georgie  29:44  

Oh okay.

 

Geoff  29:46  

Not to not to search for bombs, just like to open it. And I was, because I, every time I, because when I looked at on the on the monitor and this is probably before the smart scan as well. Or even when the smart scanners came out. They like they'll split my bag into like four different levels to try to figure out what the hell is in there. And like, it was just so foreign that they had to like scan it twice because it was just so dense that it was such in a weird configuration that they found it a little, like sus.

 

Georgie  30:16  

That’s so funny.

 

Geoff  30:18  

So anytime they take my bag, I'm like, yeah, I completely understand, it is just so strange to look inside the bag.

 

Georgie  30:27  

I thought you were gonna say that they pulled you aside and was like, what's in your bag, or like, they want to search you because I feel like every time I took, and back when I had my DSLR, when I took my DSLR, my work laptop, and my personal laptop and a whole bunch of like just tech stuff.

 

Geoff  30:41  

Exactly, right? Two laptops, everything.

 

Georgie  30:43  

Yeah, I take it out, put it on the tray and stuff. And then they just like, hey, can we search? You're like, are you pro, are you just profiling me? Because I look like an innocent woman, but I have all this stuff, like the hacker or some sh...? I don't know, I maintain that it's not random, because there are so many times that I've been... searched.

 

Geoff  31:00  

Picked up. The The other thing is that the smartscanners, I don't know how many people have how many countries have this. But it you don't have to take anything out of your bag. And so we've kind of spoke about, you can just put it in there. And the scanner is sort of like 3D instead of 2D. Usually it’ss just an x ray type thing. But with the 3D scanner, they can actually—

 

Georgie  31:24  

Rotate it.

 

Geoff  31:25  

Rotate. Yeah. Split all the layers apart because they can, like everything that looks like a cable can be split into one section. Everything looks a block goes to another section. Sydney is the only one that doesn't have one.

 

Georgie  31:38  

In Australia?

 

Geoff  31:39  

In Australia. I don't know, I haven't been to Victoria. No, not Victoria. I haven't been to South Australia or Northern Territory, but of the—

 

Georgie  31:46  

Bullshit, Geoff, you can’t say that.

 

Geoff  31:47  

Of the other ones, of the other ones.

 

Georgie  31:50  

Wait do they have it in Tassie?

 

Geoff  31:51  

I don’t know, not even, I don't know. Anyways, all the important states—

 

Georgie  31:55  

I know Melbourne has one. Important! Oh my god, mean.

 

Geoff  31:56  

I mean, because like, it's ridiculous, even Perth has it. And I'm gonna chalk this up to the fact that Perth has less traffic, they can refit retrofit there, or refit their equipment a lot faster. And Sydney is just way too many people.

 

Georgie  32:12  

Sydney’s in fucking strife. Such a shit airport.

 

Geoff  32:15  

It’s such a shit airport. So we take our stuff out in Sydney. And then when we're coming back to Sydney, it's like easy peasy. Just—

 

Georgie  32:24  

Walk right in.

 

Geoff  32:24  

Just walk through and then yeah, get on the plane. What is the other, yeah, yeah, Sydney's airport’s totally shit. If you want to catch an Uber, you have to walk like at least 10, 10, 10 minutes away from the front door of the airport to get to a different area to get picked up by an Uber or anybody else.

 

Georgie  32:48  

Yeah. You can get the train which was advertised as being like, 15 minutes to the city.

 

Geoff  32:54  

Yeah, do do... I don't think everyone knows this. And I was explaining this to my parents. It is like 10—it's $12 per adult to take that train.

 

Georgie  33:06  

Oh is it, like—

 

Geoff  33:06  

Or is it like 20 now?

 

Georgie  33:07  

I thought it was 10 last time.

 

Geoff  33:09  

Airport train cost. Yeah, I looked it up and my dad was like, what the hell? Like it's, it was 18 Yeah. $18? Or maybe 19? Almost $20.

 

Georgie  33:23  

Depending on the time. Yeah. Because it's a fee on top of, so that's not all our public transport. That's just—

 

Geoff  33:29  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  33:29  

If you want to enter through the, through the airport gates, train station gates.

 

Geoff  33:37  

Yeah—

 

Georgie  33:37  

Don’t doxx me.

 

Geoff  33:37  

It’s insane.

 

Georgie  33:38  

Don’t doxx me. Geoff has this map. And it's like, it's got where I live on it, not where I live.

 

Geoff  33:46  

The, yeah. And like—

 

Georgie  33:47  

You can get a bus actually, as well. And this was all—

 

Geoff  33:49  

Oh, can you?

 

Georgie  33:50  

Yeah, although it's not direct. I think you still have to walk quite a bit, I think to Mascot or something. But it's a lot cheaper. If you're cool with that. And I saw this pop up on an Instagram Reel. And I think some people were hating on the on the tip. That this, I can't remember. Was just gonna say, that the account was giving, they were just giving a tip, like this is cheaper. And I dropped a comment saying something like, if you're in a party of more than two people, you're probably better off getting like an Uber because the cost of that will be like maybe $20 which, or something, $20, which is a lot cheaper than every single person in your party paying to get the train.

 

Geoff  34:35  

Yeah, that's exactly what I told my, my dad, my dad’s like, oh, there's there's a train right? We'll just take that. And I said, well, last time I checked, it was actually $10 per person. And that was like, I don't know, a decade ago. So now it's like $20 per person and you and it's two of them. So you may as well take an Uber, 40 bucks, depending on—

 

Georgie  34:55  

Yeah, depends on how far you are going to/from the airport, how many people with you, and what's convenient for you. Because like, convenient is for us is train, but it's not. Like, but then the Uber’s gonna take us back home to our door, right?

 

Geoff  35:12  

Yeah, luggage.

 

Georgie  35:14  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  35:17  

That's the other thing. In Melbourne, the—

 

Georgie  35:23  

Skybus?

 

Geoff  35:24  

I've taken the Skybus, but the Uber is really weird.

 

Georgie  35:28  

OK, I always take the Skybus.

 

Geoff  35:30  

Really?

 

Georgie  35:31  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Geoff  35:32  

Yeah. So Uber, as everyone knows, you kind of open your phone. The whole point is that you open the phone and you just tap where you want to go. And then the car comes up and picks you up. And you get to see where it is. In Melbourne, it's almost like a taxi rank.

 

Georgie  35:47  

Oh, you have to go to a dedicated space. Right, you, I think you were saying this last time, not last time but sometime ago.

 

Geoff  35:52  

Sometime, yeah so you open you open your phone. I think I think maybe it's when I came back from Melbourne. But yeah, you open your phone, you pick a place you want to go, you get a code, and then you line up. And then you get into an Uber and you give them the code and it's like, what's going on?

 

Georgie  36:05  

Nah, Skybus it, man.

 

Geoff  36:07  

Skybus it

 

Georgie  36:08  

You can buy your, the Skybus tickets ahead of time as well. It's just easy. There’s,, not that I've used it but there's free Wi Fi on the Skybus.

 

Geoff  36:16  

Yeah, I think I've done the Skybus at least once. I can't remember.

 

Georgie  36:20  

It's quite frequent as well. I think. I don't know if it was like every 10, 15 minutes. Like it's honestly not bad. You don't have to walk very far, either.

 

Geoff  36:27  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  36:28  

It might even be closer than your Uber Uber rank because I've never seen it. What do you do in Perth? You personally?

 

Geoff  36:36  

I get fam, family picks me up.

 

Georgie  36:38  

Oh, fuck off.

 

Geoff  36:40  

There's no reason.

 

Georgie  36:41  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Geoff  36:42  

We have a thing with our family it’s like, if family is coming in town, like family will pick you up.

 

Georgie  36:47  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  36:48  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  36:48  

What would you, if you? Like, what would you recommend?

 

Geoff  36:52  

Oh, I'd probably recommend an Uber because honestly.

 

Georgie  36:55  

I did the right thing then back in, when was the last time I was there, 2017, 2016.

 

Geoff  36:59  

there is a train being built now. I think the train there's a train now. But it's not like, it only goes to the city. It literally stops you, oh where is it. It's not entirely the most convenient thing and it only goes to the airport. So you never take it for anything else. But like, you go into a hotel in the city, which probably makes sense. I don't know why it would stop anywhere in between or continue going past the city, to, I don't know Subiaco. And you can—

 

Georgie  37:33  

Yeah. Okay, because I think every single time I've stayed in Perth has not been in the city. It's been in—

 

Geoff  37:39  

Really?

 

Georgie  37:40  

Yeah, I think I think I stayed in. Oh, shit. I stayed in East Perth.

 

Geoff  37:47  

Oh, yeah, that's fair.

 

Georgie  37:49  

For the first time. And then the next time I think I stayed in West Perth.

 

Geoff  37:55  

(laughs)

 

Georgie  37:55  

And I think the time after that I stayed in West Perth as well. Like, yeah, kind of near like Subiaco. Kind of.

 

Geoff  38:00  

Yeah, I think the train actually stops you closer to East Perth than—

 

Georgie  38:04  

Oh I stayed in Northbridge once. I like Northbridge.

 

Geoff  38:07  

Northbridge? Yeah, yeah, you would. (laughs)

 

Georgie  38:09  

(laughs) Yeah.

 

Geoff  38:12  

It’s like—

 

Georgie  38:12  

This screams Georgie.

 

Geoff  38:13  

It's like Perth's Newtown.

 

Georgie  38:15  

Yeah it is.

 

Geoff  38:17  

So yeah, Perth is a, Perth’s a fun place. Not really?

 

Georgie  38:23  

It's okay. Isn't there a hashtag, “Perth is okay”.

 

Geoff  38:25  

Perth. Perth is okay. My friend always says like, oh give it 10 years. It'll be great. It has been 10 years and it is kind of great now, like you get more variety and food, Uniqlo is there. Like, it’s been—

 

Georgie  38:39  

Yeah, yeah—

 

Geoff  38:39  

That's my mark.

 

Georgie  38:40  

You know what I found so funny, is the malls. Or the mall. It was just like so dated. It reminded me of like an old Stockland mall that I was. I went to in Merrylands here, like from the 90s like that, old, there’s this thing about department stores, right? Like Myer. And the floor is just different. It has that weird, do you I don't know if you know what I mean. But the corner there's the tiled floors, between carpeted areas where there's clothes and toys and stuff. And the carpeted areas come into a point like this, like a bezel, or like a, like a bevelled kind of like it's not a full—

 

Geoff  39:17  

Oh, it's not a point.

 

Georgie  39:19  

It comes in the corners being cut off of the carpet bit. And it's so I feel like it's so indicative of the style of like a 90s mall. (laughs)

 

Geoff  39:28  

My god, don't get me started about—

 

Georgie  39:29  

...it was like that.

 

Geoff  39:30  

Parra, Parramatta has this—

 

Georgie  39:32  

Yes?

 

Geoff  39:33  

Myers or is it David Jones?

 

Georgie  39:35  

So Parramatta’s—

 

Geoff  39:35  

It's just floors and floors and floor and you just like no joke, we park in the parking lot.

 

Georgie  39:41  

Wait, how often do you go there?

 

Geoff  39:43  

Not very often.

 

Georgie  39:44  

Because that used to be my, it used to be my, what do you call it, hangout.

 

Geoff  39:47  

Hangout spot.

 

Georgie  39:48  

Fucking Parramatta.

 

Geoff  39:48  

But it's just, it's just one it's, it's, it's this is one time we weren't, we were in a rush, and we parked in the parking lot and I can't remember we were late in the after, late or pretty early. I think we were early, and Myers was closed. And the staircase only takes you to floors in Myer. So we're like eight floors, and it's all just Myers, eight is over exaggeration, and like sometimes the door, the shutters are open—

 

Georgie  40:17  

There are eight floors.

 

Geoff  40:17  

Okay, the shutters are—

 

Georgie  40:19  

Eight, eight, no wait, hang on wait. Six, seven, eight, are carpark.

 

Geoff  40:22  

Okay. Yeah.

 

Georgie  40:23  

Parking lot for you in the US.

 

Geoff  40:24  

The shutter is open, you can go into Myer, but then like, it's not open on the other side. So you can't get inside the building. We just wanted to leave the parking lot.

 

Georgie  40:34  

Oh shit.

 

Geoff  40:34  

And it's just a big hellhole trap of you in Myer, that's not open yet.

 

Georgie  40:41  

Wait, hang on. You were, what time was it?

 

Geoff  40:43  

I think this was early. I think this was before it open. So it's like—

 

Georgie  40:46  

And you parked.

 

Geoff  40:46  

Eight, 8am. And we parked. On one of the three floors. And to exit the parking lot.

 

Georgie  40:52  

And you walked in to the—you just wanted to go into the building.

 

Geoff  40:56  

We wanted to exit the parking lot entirely. So the only way we could see is to go up into Myers and then out into the into the shopping centre and then out through the front door of the shopping centre.

 

Georgie  41:07  

Yeah, that's correct.

 

Geoff  41:08  

Yeah. But every every level.

 

Georgie  41:11  

You couldn’t go into—

 

Geoff  41:12  

It was closed.

 

Georgie  41:13  

So you were stuck in—

 

Geoff  41:14  

In the frickin staircase. And then the elevator was so slow One of them was broken and like the other one was going and there was like a bunch of people trying to get out of this building.

 

Georgie  41:23  

I think there's a different way, like not, I think we're Have you entered went straight to Myer, right.

 

Geoff  41:28  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  41:29  

There's a way that doesn't go straight to Myer.

 

Geoff  41:31  

Yeah, I figured.

 

Georgie  41:32  

It's like, and I prob, I think the elevators are larger as well. So it would be more noticeable.

 

Geoff  41:36  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  41:37  

To like, a set of two. And they’re the one, the common ones that go through the entire middle of the building.

 

Geoff  41:46  

Yeah, so it was an ordeal. We couldn’t, couldn’t leave. We were just trapped.

 

Georgie  41:51  

Have I, have I told you that time, I got almost trapped in a fire escape. (laughs)

 

Geoff  41:55  

You can tell it next episode, because...

 

Georgie  41:59  

It's on my blog somewhere if anyone doesn't want to wait.

 

Geoff  42:03  

So you can follow us on @toastroastpod on...

 

Georgie  42:07  

X.

 

Geoff  42:08  

X. We still have to talk about that actually, maybe we'll talk about it, next episode. X.

 

Georgie  42:14  

You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you find your podcast—wait, what else do we have? Overcast, some listen on Overcast. Chrome or somethng.

 

Geoff  42:25  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  42:25  

Amazon or whatever you listen on, and the big big carpark that you get lost in.

 

Geoff  42:32  

Fucking get out of it. So see you, yeah, so see you next week.

 

Georgie  42:38  

Bye.