The right way to cook eggs, the right way to pronounce “matcha” and “mocha”, and as usual, stopping just shy of talking about social media.
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The right way to cook eggs, the right way to pronounce “matcha” and “mocha”, and as usual, stopping just shy of talking about social media.
We’ve gone old school, so you can email us! toastroastpod@gmail.com
Georgie 0:09
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host, Georgie and as usual, I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:17
Hello. Hello. It’s kinda toasty, isn’t it?
Georgie 0:22
It’s a bit warm.
Geoff 0:23
I just cut up some roast chicken. So—
Georgie 0:26
Is it smelling—
Geoff 0:27
Yeah.
Georgie 0:28
Smelling all chicken-y in there.
Geoff 0:29
Pretty good. We get the pre cooked roast chickens from Woolies.
Georgie 0:35
Supermarket.
Geoff 0:35
Yeah.
Georgie 0:36
They’re not that bad, hey? Like it’s like 10—actually, I think they used to be 10 dollars, maybe they’re $10.50 now.
Geoff 0:40
Yeah, yeah, I’ve no idea what they are. Now I just pick them up and go. Like, they’re like maybe $12.50.
Oh my god, they’ve gone up.
Of course, everything’s going up. So, yeah, we like to, it’s like an easy way to get some chicken. If you don’t have to. Like, yeah, cook your chicken and then put it into your meal and do a pasta bake or something like that. Just chuck the chicken and then easy.
Georgie 1:06
I get it to make a salad or—
Geoff 1:07
Oh yeah.
Georgie 1:08
If anything leftover, I guess, you can make a wrap as well. But you know what’s really tempting? I don’t know what it is. But because I’ve never cooked a whole chicken myself because I don’t really cook but you buy the bag, and you bring it home and something in you just wants to kind of open the bag and just start consuming the chicken.
Geoff 1:26
Oh, yeah, that’s when I’m breaking it down. Yeah, when I break it down. It’s like, piece here, piece there, that there is one thing that you don’t get in any other like, if you buy like a pre, I don’t know you buy a whole chicken of course you’re gonna get it. But if you go get a box or box of pre packaged roast chicken, cut up pieces or whatever. You don’t get the oysters. The, the chicken oysters. Where are they located? So if you see the front, you see if you if you look at the chicken itself, like from the front side, and you flip it up 90 degrees. So you’re looking at the bottom of the chicken.
Georgie 2:09
Yeah.
Geoff 2:11
Just—
Georgie 2:12
Oh is this the really—
Geoff 2:13
Past the legs—
Georgie 2:13
Juicy parts?
Geoff 2:15
There’s little there’s little there’s little oy, juicy, juicy pots of chicken and they’re like in a round ovular shape. And they’re called, they call it the chicken oysters.
Georgie 2:25
I think I know what you’re talking about. Yeah, I think people just like, oh, those are the like the juiciest, tastiest part or something.
Geoff 2:30
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 2:31
The whole chicken.
Geoff 2:32
So that’s the only way you can do it. So you have the whole chicken. So it’s nice to break down the chicken, eat some juicy parts, and then chuck them in a jaffle. That’s what I usually do as well.
Georgie 2:43
You know, what is another food that you’re preparing? Or you purchase? Actually, it’s probably more in the preparation that you can’t help but eat that eat the thing that you’re preparing.
Geoff 2:58
Oh, yeah, you know what, I don’t need to eat anything that I’m preparing—
Georgie 3:02
Oh really? Not even the cookie dough temptation sort of thing?
Geoff 3:05
No, we don’t make cookies.
Georgie 3:07
OK. I think for me, it’s the when you’re making tacos, and you’re shredding the cheese, or you buy the cheese pre shredded.
Geoff 3:15
Yeah.
Georgie 3:15
I can’t help myself. I just start eating the shredded, because it tastes completely different.
Geoff 3:20
My partner’s the one—
Georgie 3:22
To when it’s not shredded.
Geoff 3:23
My partner’s is the one that usually does that. Eats a little bit more of the pieces here and there. But I only do it shredding chicken, breaking down chicken. And then you watched the YouTube video, have you seen the one where Gordon Ramsay like breaks down a chicken?
Georgie 3:39
Oh, and he does it like perfect. Like—
Geoff 3:40
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 3:40
It’s the way to do it. Yeah.
Geoff 3:42
It’s the way to do it. Yeah, it’s so it’s really inspirational. What can I say? But what I find with the roast chicken is that actually after it’s cooked, and it’s like it’s fresh. It’s, it’s really easy to just pull the thing apart without any kind of precision. With him, he’s doing raw chicken. I think it’s a little bit more, you have to cut the pieces because they don’t come away that easily. I’m not entirely sure. Any case, watching people break down chicken and break down fish. So it’s, it’s always amusing.
Georgie 4:12
Yeah.
Geoff 4:13
Yeah. And you’re like, oh, yeah, they just put their knife down and they just run it along the bottom and then hey, presto, they have a fillet, and then you try it yourself, like this is not going so well.
Georgie 4:23
They make it look really easy. And I think that’s my problem with cooking videos is that the message, the message that keeps getting perpetuated is that cooking is easy. And I think there’s not enough around the preparation of some items. Like for me it was how do you dice an onion properly?
Geoff 4:44
Yeah.
Georgie 4:45
Like they don’t tell you, they just go, dice an onion, dice your vegetables, julienne your whatever. And I’m like, but some people literally don’t even know how to do that. So that’s a problem I have with the sort of learning how to cook with just videos online.
Geoff 5:00
I really like these days as you’re walking up and down supermarkets is that you can find a lot of these things already pre pre prepared. So—
Georgie 5:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Geoff 5:10
What’s interesting is the garlic one, actually, if you if you can get everything from, like the garlic, all wrapped up in the, in the white paper, like—
Georgie 5:19
The nets are you talking about?
Geoff 5:21
Raw—
Georgie 5:21
Oh no, just as is.
Geoff 5:24
The outer, they are as is right? Raw. And then you’re like, okay, this one you have to break apart and then like de-skin or whatever. And then you can also get de-skinned ones, you can get a whole box—
Georgie 5:37
Peeled, right?
Geoff 5:37
Peeled. Yeah, you can get peeled ones. And then you can go even further right, you can get you get minced, pre minced, pre minced.
Georgie 5:44
Oh hey. It’s not fresh, though. Actually, I have a question because I think I was discussing this with someone at work who said that someone we used to work with, was saying, yeah, I think—you know how you get a clove—sorry no—a whole bulb of garlic.
Geoff 6:01
Yeah.
Georgie 6:01
And oftentimes, you’re gonna use a couple of cloves.
Geoff 6:04
Yeah.
Georgie 6:05
When you go to the store, how do you purchase the garlic? How do you personally—
Geoff 6:08
How do I personally do it?
Georgie 6:09
Let’s say you only need one.
Geoff 6:12
Yeah, I usually buy like the bulb, like a whole bulb.
Georgie 6:16
Yeah, so there was this person we used to work with and she said that she would literally just take a couple of cloves, and she thinks she thinks that we all have the right to do that. And I wasn’t too sure. I don’t know.
Geoff 6:31
Yeah, I mean, people do it with ginger, at least I do. You just go there, you snap, you snap a piece of ginger off. And that kind of makes sense to me because you pay by weight for ginger. You pay by—
Georgie 6:45
Oh yeah.
Geoff 6:45
You pay by bulb. I think. Of garlic. I’m not entirely sure actually. Does it weigh the garlic? Okay, if, yeah, I think if it was the garlic then why not just come grab a piece couple pieces and take what you need.
Georgie 6:55
Yeah but as if you’re gonna walk into the supermarket with like your machete and go, I only need half a lime.
Geoff 7:03
True you do do... like half a lot. Like weighing lemons and stuff like that. And limes so, yeah you’re not gonna cut it up.
Georgie 7:13
Actually I that’s by quantity, doesn’t it? I think limes are quantity.
Geoff 7:16
Err, oh good point. I think you do. Yeah, I think you do quantity, pop in the number that you need. Yeah, that’s the tricky part, if it’s, I don’t know if it’s a rule of thumb but forgot, for ginger I’ve always known it, like my parents did it. Snap a piece, pay for what you need? Not that you can ever be accurate with how much ginger you need.
Georgie 7:40
Oh, here’s another one. Bayleaf.
Geoff 7:43
Yeah, bayleaf...
Georgie 7:45
How do you, how do you how, do you even get your hands on the proper amount of bay leaves because you only use one per entire like wok or whatever.
Geoff 7:55
I skip it. Honestly, I skip bay leaves. I don’t even know how long they last. That’s like the number one thing in the house is like everything just dying before you before it gets to—
Georgie 8:06
Yeah, yeah I think it’s the case with herbs and stuff.
Geoff 8:09
Yeah, everything’s dry now.
Georgie 8:11
When we buy thyme or like [US pronunciation] oregano, sorry, [Australian pronunciation] oregano.
Geoff 8:16
See, the thing is with that one, is that I like to troll people who really hate how Americans say oregano.
Georgie 8:23
I don’t see the problem with it.
Geoff 8:25
Anyhow.
Georgie 8:27
I say [US pronunciation] tomato. But I’m weird.
Geoff 8:30
[Australian pronunciation] Tomato. Any case, people who get pissed about it I say it wrong to them but then I say it so frequently that I start saying it that way all the time. And I sh—I get back to [Australian pronunciation] oregano or [US pronunciation] oregano.
Georgie 8:43
Just pronounce it however you want. I think it’s fine.
Geoff 8:46
Yeah, tomato tomahto, I think it really depends.
Georgie 8:50
People laugh at me for saying yog-urt.
Geoff 8:52
Oh, yog-urt.
Georgie 8:53
Like a Brit.
Geoff 8:55
(laughs) You also say voice [phonetically] mee-mo.
Georgie 8:58
Do I say memo?
Geoff 8:59
You say memo.
Georgie 9:00
(laughs) I think I do that on purpose though.
Geoff 9:03
Do you?
Georgie 9:04
Yeah, yeah, like—
Geoff 9:05
Do you? I’ve never heard you say it [phonetically] mem-oh ever. So it to me, it’s just the way you say it.
Georgie 9:11
Yeah. Do you ever, there are some things you just say? Like the other day like Nick knows that I laugh at these kinds of things all the time because they’re very silly. You know, the word hikes. He was just saying we need to go and look at some “hi-kes” to do. I just thought it was so funny moment because I wasn’t expecting him to say it. But that’s why I say mee-mos, just for the lulz.
Geoff 9:35
I always like to do like Tar-jay [Target] or Colay [Coles].
Georgie 9:37
(laughs) Tarjay. Wait, Coles? Coles?
Geoff 9:42
Coles for Colay. Da-vide Jones.
Georgie 9:49
Actually wait, how do you, how do you pronounce G-A-M-U-T?
Geoff 9:55
Oh gah-muht.
Georgie 9:58
So Chris and I were just having this like, it’s in joke that goes so far back where it was just, let’s just say “ga-mutt” in the most brash way possible. Like ga-mutt.
Geoff 10:10
Gamut, ga-mutt. Gah-mut.
Georgie 10:11
It’s jsut such a weird word, you know.
Geoff 10:14
Yeah. But it’s kind of like I remember, was this long time ago when I spoke a lot of Japanese I suppose. Just purely because I watched a lot of anime as people do.
Georgie 10:30
Hanbaagaa.
Geoff 10:30
Hanbaagaa. But anyway, so I was talking to a friend of mine. And they were saying they were they’re contemplating at what point do you stop saying things, ironically and it turns to things you actually say? Because I think their sister in law or something like that said a lot of weeb stuff. For those who don’t know what weeb is... It’s it’s a, it’s a, I guess it’s a stereotype. It’s kind of derogatory, but I don’t think weebs themselves find it derogatory thems... In any case, it’s just people who are not Japanese speaking Japanese, as if they think that they are Japanese, and usually just comes from, what’s the, actually there’s a definition, white...
Georgie 11:24
Like white people speaking?
Geoff 11:26
Dude, derisive term for a non Japanese person who’s obsessed the Japanese culture and they wish they were actually Japanese. That’s that’s the definition. Yeah. It’s different from otaku because otakus are enthusiasts of all things anime, weebs on the other hand, have a wider scope of interest specifically related to Japanese culture. Any case. So um, yeah, they had they had their sister in law as someone who was acting like a weeb, saying weeb-type stuff, like inserting the Japanese word when they told me like, “oh, this is so sugoi” to replace the word awesome. And they were saying it ironically. But at what point does it just become something you say? And that you are no longer mocking?
Georgie 12:15
Yeah, yeah, there’s something. There’s some word that I can’t think of right now. I’ve just, keep trying to remember it. I think it might be something to do with work.
Geoff 12:27
Then it’s no longer valid to be talked about.
Georgie 12:30
I mean, I say “pree-sentation”, because that’s what peeps in the US say.
Geoff 12:36
Yeah.
Georgie 12:38
Oh, you know how we say route [pronounced “root”]?
Geoff 12:42
Yes.
Georgie 12:42
For, what, like directions. Like, what’s the route?
Geoff 12:46
Oh, I thinking you were talking about rooting?
Georgie 12:49
Like as in sexual?
Geoff 12:51
Yeah the sexual.
Georgie 12:52
But yeah, exactly. So I think because of that, I started saying [pronounced “rowt”] route. So to avoid any confusion with anyone from anywhere, and I think that’s usually why I stopped pronouncing things like either an American or a British person, because someone I might come across might be like, what does that even mean? Like they will, I saw a video where someone was ordering from Subway. It was what do you call it? A reenactment. Tuna [pronounced Australian “choo-na”].
Geoff 13:24
Tuna [pronounced US “too-na”]?
Georgie 13:25
Tuna? Yes. In the US, tuna. They just really didn’t get it. And then there was the whole capsicum bell pepper.
Geoff 13:33
Oh I think it was, I saw this one too.
Georgie 13:35
Cilantro and coriander.
Geoff 13:41
Yeah, I saw this one too. They’re just standing there at the counter. They’re like, I would like to tuna, and they’re like, “chooo”...
Georgie 13:49
Yeah, that’s the one.
Geoff 13:50
“...na”. Like, you know, tuna—
Georgie 13:54
The fish?
Geoff 13:54
The fish, oh. Tuna like tuna fish. I read the comments. They were like, oh my country we differentiate like in some parts of America, they differentiate tuna. The something, from tuna the fish. I can’t remember what was the other type of tuna?
Georgie 14:11
Oh, like the like the raw sashimi? Or like—
Geoff 14:14
Maybe? Tuna fish?
Georgie 14:17
Grilled. Like grilled tuna?
Geoff 14:19
Yeah, I don’t know what they were differentiating between tuna and tuna fish but and then like, someone from like Texas is saying, I’ve always known it as this, and now I’ve understood that it seems to be only a Texas thing that that we know it by this. I can’t remember what it was. In any case. Yeah. It’s like—
Georgie 14:39
Someone said it was an exaggerated video though. And that people in the US generally would still understand your accent, like at some point is just kind of pretending or not, like—
Geoff 14:52
Yeah.
Georgie 14:52
Pretending be ignorant sort of thing. It’s just, I mean, it’s just a joke.
Geoff 14:56
Mocha is the one that hit me first. And I was—
Georgie 14:58
[US pronunciation] “moe-ka”.
Geoff 14:59
Yeah. I’d like, I’d like a [Australian pronunciation] “mokka” please and then like, “a moch..a?”. And I was like “yeah, a mocha”. “Oh, you mean a moe-ka, alright I’ll get you that”. And I’m like—
Georgie 15:10
And they say “moe-chi” as well which kind of grinds my gears because technically, it’s “moch-i”.
Geoff 15:18
I kinda, I kinda, it’s—
Georgie 15:20
Matcha [pronounced “much-a”] is the other one. They say “match-a”.
Geoff 15:24
It’s, it’s interesting, right? That the idea that saying something in its original, like intonation or tones, or way seems like the right thing to do. But if no one understands what it is, you’re saying, is that better or worse?
Georgie 15:43
Yeah.
Geoff 15:44
Right. And, I mean, I know it sounds sounds it sounds kind of hoity toity, or like, oh, like, you have to pronounce it “much-a”. But if you’re in a country that no one says “much-a”, then what’s even the point? Like Kozsciuszko [pronounced “kozzy-osko”], right?
Georgie 16:05
“Ko-shuss-ko”.
Geoff 16:06
“Ko-shuss-ko”, is yeah, I learned that.
Georgie 16:07
Yes.
Geoff 16:08
It’s Polish, and it’s named after this great Polish mountaineer. I don’t know. And so I started saying “Ko-shuss-ko”, and people were like, do you mean “Kozzy-osko”? Like, yeah, but alright, nevermind. I give up on that one. And it’s interesting. We only do it for the Japanese things mostly. I can’t remember.
It’s because we know Japanese. And I don’t know maybe it is a bit, like you said, hoity toity. “Much-a”.
And “moe-chi”. And “ma-chi”. But I like I think a lot of people have come around to yeah, like the difference between bubble tea and boba tea. I wondered, like—
Georgie 16:49
It’s the same.
Geoff 16:49
Is this a different thing? It’s the same thing.
Georgie 16:52
The one that really tripped me up, tripped me up was when I was saying, writing in the US, like I said I’m going to the write, I said I, but I was saying I’m going to the writing meetup. And they thought I was saying “riding” as in riding a horse. I was talking about writing, like writing a book or poetry. And that made me completely changed the way I said the word “writing” from then on.
Geoff 17:19
Yeah.
Georgie 17:20
So yeah, writing.
Geoff 17:21
We just want to be understood. But I think it’s I think it was a little bit, a little bit on the nose for that person that like the person taking my order. Who probably knew what I was saying.
Georgie 17:35
Yeah.
Geoff 17:35
I was like, oh, mocha, and they’re like, excuse me, like mocha? Like, hey, you mean? Like, you obviously knew what I meant. You just wanted to correct me in the pronounciation.
Georgie 17:47
Actually, I want to know if anyone from the US is listening. Like do you do, not do you do this on purpose. But is this common for people to sort of correct, accents that are not American?
Geoff 18:00
Oh, I don’t know if I sent this to you, or you sent it to me. But there was this, like, Reddit thread where this guy was asking, and assuming it’s a guy, but this person was asking. Um. Crap, no, I have to get the phrasing, right. Otherwise, this is not gonna make any sense. But it said... if... Oh, crap, now gotta find it, I’ll find it, find it, find. But in any case, yeah, there is this question that was really inane. And I really want to find it. So let’s start a different story. And I’ll come back.
Georgie 18:39
Okay. I did think of one. And that is the fact that we call thong, underwear. Sorry, no. Well, we, we call them g-strings.
Geoff 18:51
Yeah, I remember I was just thinking of this one too.
Georgie 18:53
But we also have flip flops. And we call them “thongs”. So there have been a bunch of comedians who—
Geoff 19:05
They love that one.
Georgie 19:06
Yeah, they just love this one. One of them I that I always recall is Carl Barron, Australian comedian, who was telling a story of I think he was travelling America. And this American man was like, oh, you can check her out. “You can see her thong”. And he’s like, yeah, big whoop. He’s thinking like, a flip flop. Like big whoop, you know, where, where can you see a thong, he’s like, “sticking out the back of her jeans”.
Geoff 19:36
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 19:37
And he’s like, why would she be, why would there be a thong sticking out the back of her jeans? And I think he said, yeah, what’s, what’s the big deal? I wear a thong too. And the guy’s like, oh, really?
Geoff 19:51
Oh, yeah.
Georgie 19:52
He said sometimes I wear two of them. It’s like when? It’s like, when I’m feeling hot. I’m pretty sure yeah, I’m pretty sure, if you look up Carl Barron, and you can, I don’t even know actually, might just, maybe look up America or something like that. He probably has—this story is somewhere, somewhere recorded and published on YouTube.
Geoff 20:12
Yeah, okay, so I can’t quite find it. But essentially the gist of it was that the person thought that Americans made, made the language English.
Georgie 20:26
Oh no.
Geoff 20:27
And they were wondering why oh, yeah, that’s right. Yeah, they were wondering why England, part of Europe speaks speaks an American made language English, even though they’re not part of America. That was it. Yeah, nah, I remember.
Georgie 20:45
They just, so they just had no idea. Wait, did they have no idea that people outside of America spoke English.
Geoff 20:51
I think I think they were just perplexed that, because England is not in England as part of the Europe, in Europe and Europeans don’t speak English generally. As a as like the main language. And they basically they asked this on Quora, I think and yeah, man they got ripped into.
Georgie 21:11
Roasted?
Geoff 21:11
Yeah. But the person wasn’t American. I think that’s the assumption that the person was American. They thought that because America is so great. America, like, created the language, English.
Georgie 21:25
Oh so they weren’t American?
Geoff 21:25
They weren’t American. they were Chinese, as they found out. So it was just someone who, I guess learned a lesson—
Georgie 21:34
About the Western world.
Geoff 21:35
Yeah, about the Western world through America.
Georgie 21:38
That’s so bizarre. Because, I mean—
Geoff 21:41
It’s just wrong on so many levels.
Georgie 21:42
Yeah. I mean, as someone who is like Australian, and like growing up talking to people on the internet, who were from America, and they were just like, whoa, didn’t know Australia was real. And you have internet and things like that. Like, honestly, I’m not, I’m not surprised that maybe some people who had not originally from America, or they don’t, have America, like, what am I saying, like, like they’re immigrants or whatever, that they would have this, sort of like second hand view of how America sees themselves, if that makes sense.
Geoff 22:15
Yeah, so. So basically, the comments were like, oh, why does—here we go, it’s right on the top. Why does England, a European country, speak English, an American language instead of another foreign European language? And of course, like, “did it ever occur to you that a language called English might possibly have originated in a place called England?”
Georgie 22:45
Yeah, I mean, that—
Geoff 22:45
This is brutal. “Some people are born fake and doomed to remain stupid. English evolved in England, the clue is in the name. If the language really evolved in America, the egos wouldn’t allow it to be called anything except American, a language that doesn’t exist. You simply can’t teach that kind of stupid”. But, yeah, I empathizs. But also understand that this is a very triggering question. And maybe even a troll question. It was probably wasn’t even a proper question. This is a—
Georgie 23:24
Chat GPT? Can answer questions now?
Geoff 23:28
Why do we need humans? Just, we don’t need anybody
Georgie 23:31
Oh, actually, someone shared something quite funny about ChatGPT. I don’t know if you’ve seen this. I’m gonna pull it up and read it out to you. Okay, so it was it’s actually a tweet from—no, it’s not a tweet. I beg your pardon. It’s, it’s a toot on Mastodon. From someone called—
Geoff 23:53
Is it seriously Mastodon’s a toot?
Georgie 23:54
Yeah. It’s called toot. Someone called Andrew Feeney, who said that, I don’t know if he’s mentioning someone called Kevlin and C. Weber I think. Anyway, he was saying that I think one of these people described ChatGPT as “mansplaining as a service. And honestly, I can’t think of a better description, a service that instantly generates vaguely plausible sounding get totally fabricated and baseless lectures in an instant with unflagging confidence in its own correctness on any topic without concern, regard or even awareness of the level of expertise of its audience”.
Geoff 24:31
It’s genius. Can you send that to me?
Georgie 24:34
Sure.
Geoff 24:34
The, yeah.
Georgie 24:36
It’s a screenshot, so you’re gonna have to deal with that?
Geoff 24:39
I got...
Georgie 24:40
Second-hand sharing. That’s how it works.
Geoff 24:42
Yeah, it’s like, why can’t you just copy the text and send it to me so I don’t have to send an image.
Georgie 24:48
Because I can’t even copy the text, whatever. I can do it on my phone with the text thing. The OCR is what it’s called?
Geoff 24:54
Yeah, that’s really handy.
Georgie 24:56
Actually, you know when it’s not handy?
Geoff 24:58
When?
Georgie 24:59
So I’d taken, I can’t remember actually, I think I had a website for our wedding, just with some contact info and stuff. And I only shared it with wedding guests. I put both our phone numbers on there. And I think somehow, some oh actually maybe was a picture of the invitation, something, some, anyway, searching my phone number, eventually on a search engine a few years later, rendered my like website with the the, I was, I was, I mean the websites are public, but I had to re upload the picture and redact the actual phone number because it found my phone number. It was not, not great. But anyway.
Geoff 25:45
It’s good for your phone, though. I know that some people take photos of—
Georgie 25:50
Receipts and things.
Geoff 25:50
Things, just so that they can copy the text on it. I can’t remember what it was. But someone had sent someone an image. Oh, was it? Yeah, someone sent someone something with an image and they and they had they use their phone to take a picture of the screen so that they can copy the text off the... (laughs)
Georgie 26:13
Yeah, mean, I do this when I go to the post office and get a tracking number. And I don’t want to type out a, what, 12, 15 digit tracking numbers. So I open up my camera and I do the scan text. So I don’t take a photo of it anymore, because you can do it straight from the camera.
Geoff 26:29
Yeah, you can do it straight.
Georgie 26:30
And I’m like, Yeah, this is great. And it’s so funny, because on the receipt, there’s a QR code as well. Which I scan the QR code code to open up my browser with the tracking number in it, but no, I’m just gonna, I’m gonna get the number on the receipt and copy it.
Geoff 26:44
It’s just way cooler. Yeah, like, if no one, if no, no one’s noticed or realised this on iPhones. If you pop up in your camera and you point your camera at some text, you can, I think it comes up with a little bit of a whatchamacallit—
Georgie 27:01
An icon.
Geoff 27:02
Little icon—
Georgie 27:03
It’s like a bunch of lines in a square.
Geoff 27:06
Yeah, you can either tap on the, on a photo you’ve taken and it usually would come up with a little icon or you can just point a camera at it and and tap on there and should it should read the text at its best. I think I’ve had ones where it like skips just one letter, which is—
Georgie 27:27
Yeah I’ve had ones—
Geoff 27:28
Gets you 90% of the way.
Georgie 27:30
I think it reads like fives as sixes sometimes, depending on how large the text is, but it otherwise does a pretty good job and it’s kind of creepy when you search for, like if I took a picture of this hand cream and then I searched for cream, it would probably, sorry, I just realised that’s—yeah, it would it would find this picture after it’s been indexed and stuff. Also slightly creepy.
Geoff 27:58
Yeah, just don’t upload things to the internet.
Georgie 28:00
Yeah.
Geoff 28:03
Well, I got an invite to Blue sky.
Georgie 28:09
Wait, is that—remind me what that is again?
Geoff 28:12
It’s Jack Dorsey, the original—
Georgie 28:15
Black sky? Bluesky?
Geoff 28:16
...creator of Twitter.
Georgie 28:18
Oh right, Bluesky.
Geoff 28:20
He... black sky.
Georgie 28:22
Black Sky.
Geoff 28:23
Oh my god. So I found I found that—
Georgie 28:25
What’s Bluesky?
Geoff 28:25
You know how egg, eggs they can’t usually come in maybe white or or blue cartons? I found ones that, or maybe yellow.
Georgie 28:36
Yellow. Yeah.
Geoff 28:37
I found ones packaged in black.
Georgie 28:40
Really?
Geoff 28:41
Yeah.
Georgie 28:42
What does it mean?
Geoff 28:43
They are, they’re actually pre smoked eggs.
Georgie 28:47
Oh, yeah. Right. I think I’ve maybe seen them.
Geoff 28:51
Black eggs.
Georgie 28:54
I thought you’re gonna say you came across blue eggs that you could just buy commercially.
Geoff 28:58
No, there’s, so I obviously got them because they’re, they’re...
Georgie 29:03
Have you tried them yet?
Geoff 29:05
Not yet. Only just got them.
Georgie 29:07
How are they smoked? You know what’s funny, is like when you buy it salmon? I think, oh no. You buy smoked salmon. Oh okay, no, I’m wrong. I was gonna say I thought they followed the same colour code. But I feel like black generally does mean something’s been smoked. Why is that such a weird, anyway.
Geoff 29:28
Where are they? I think it’s these ones? Yeah, okay.
Georgie 29:33
Oh, wow. Fancy.
Geoff 29:35
Very fancy. Right? I thought hey, that that’s eye catching. It doesn’t s...yeah, is it this one? An case, it says like it’s pre, it’s pre smoked eggs. And I picked them up and when you open them, they have some some kind of like, a little bit of a black gloss on them with some spots.
Georgie 29:58
No freaking way.
Geoff 29:58
So it’s actually been like they’ve like preseasoned—
Georgie 30:01
Treated it or whatever.
Geoff 30:02
So it’s really interesting. I’m gonna gonna hard hard boil like four of them and make like an omelette—
Georgie 30:07
Oh my god, why would you hard—
Geoff 30:08
...with tea.
Georgie 30:08
Why would you hard boil?
Geoff 30:09
Because they would they would be like tea smoked, they’re like smoked hard boiled egg.
Georgie 30:14
Hard boiled is the worst way to eat an egg. Why would you eat yolk that is just like dry as balls.
Geoff 30:21
You have not been hard boiling your eggs correctly.
Georgie 30:24
I—no no no, just no. I soft boil.
Geoff 30:27
You can par boil, you can so—go get—
Georgie 30:29
Soft boil. Soft boil or die, don’t hard—OK the only times I think it’s acceptable to hard boil is if you’re about to like cut it up and put it into a salad like dicing.
Geoff 30:39
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 30:40
But yeah.
Geoff 30:43
So I usually—
Georgie 30:44
Yeah, the picture tells you to bloody soft boil poach it.
Geoff 30:47
Does it?
Georgie 30:47
It’s like got the runny yolk, yeah. Yeah. You ever find it funny how—
Geoff 30:51
Oh, that, the poaching the egg.
Georgie 30:53
You ever find it funny how on a packaging of a, of food. It says, serving suggestion n the picture.
Geoff 31:01
Yeah.
Georgie 31:02
On the front. Somehow that weirds me out because I’m like, you want me to eat it like that?
Geoff 31:08
Yeah.
Georgie 31:09
Like, bah, I’m gonna eat how I want. Not, you know, when you look at a cereal package. And it’s a cereal with the bowl, and it’s got the fruit and like, nope. You think you think I’m gonna cut up fruit and put raspberries in my—no.
Geoff 31:25
It’s never actually—
Georgie 31:27
It’s just a guide, but it’s just funny.
Geoff 31:29
Here, here they are, the smoked egg, chilled raw smoked eggs. Here we go.
Georgie 31:38
Smoked like how though? I need to know.
Geoff 31:40
Yeah, I’ve no idea.
Georgie 31:41
As in they’re straight up just like...?
Geoff 31:45
Did they open them, smoke them, pour back into the egg, seal it back up?
Georgie 31:49
I mean? Yeah, I guess it’s interesting for... maybe they boil it in? No, you’re right. Actually, they’re raw. How does that even?
Geoff 31:57
Yeah, see, I have no idea what this is gonna taste like. So I’m going to do it a couple of ways. I guess. I’m gonna, I’m gonna make an omelette. And then I’ll hard, par, almost hard boil it. Because I don’t like runny, runny eggs. Maybe I’ll try do a scramble but I’m pretty sure the omelette would come out tasting the same way as the scramble. So I’d probably just to hard boil and scramble and an omelette.
Georgie 32:22
Maybe they sit in an incubator and it just, it’s like an infusion, maybe?
Geoff 32:26
Maybe you maybe you smoke the chicken. That makes the egg?
Georgie 32:30
Oh my god, no. Animal cruelty. I dunno. That doesn’t sound right to me at all. Can’t go back.
Geoff 32:45
Anyways, Bluesky.
Georgie 32:47
Black Sky.
Geoff 32:48
Blue, Bluesky.
Georgie 32:49
Is it blue or black? I’m confused.
Geoff 32:51
Bluesky app.
Georgie 32:52
Right.
Geoff 32:54
It’s basically not a really—
Georgie 32:57
OK I love how we are still not talking about.
Geoff 33:01
Yeah, we’ll get there.
Georgie 33:02
And we’re just talking about the... (laughs)
Geoff 33:04
The idea is that it’s kind of like Twitter, but not Twitter. It looks exactly like Twitter. If you were to take a screenshot.
Georgie 33:15
Yeah.
Geoff 33:17
But it’s the new thing built by Jack Dorsey who built the orig, who was the original CEO of Twitter, and he left that company and then he built this. It’s kinda like connected to Mastodon because you can actually log into different instances. I don’t know if you saw if I log, if I log back out, delete my account, sign up. If I yeah, try sign in—oh?
Georgie 33:43
Other account.
Geoff 33:45
You can pick a different server, local, dev, server, staging, social.
Georgie 33:49
When did he start this?
Geoff 33:50
Oh, that’s a good question. He he announced it just as af—just after Elon bought Twitter. Founded October 2021. So it’s 22 months ago. Which is I don’t know when, I think he started it before Elon bought Twitter. But it was only really started getting some kind of attention slash invites to, after Elon bought Twitter.
Georgie 34:27
Why are we still calling it Twitter?
Geoff 34:29
Yeah, because this is, this just the most annoying thing, everyone, every single article I read about it. They always say “X, formerly Twitter”, because no one fucking knows what X means. Yeah. But it’s definitely one of the worst rebranding of all time. And we’ll probably look back I think, for the next decade, we’ll still be calling it Twitter.
Georgie 34:57
I used to be able to, because I don’t on my phone, I don’t put X on the homescreen. It hasn’t been there for ages. Hasn’t been on any of my screen. So I always pull down to search and then type TW, I can’t do that anymore. I could briefly when they just changed the icon, but now that changes the name as well. And so I have to literally write X to search on my phone for the stupid app that I don’t even use anymore.
Geoff 35:22
It’s hilarious, because at one point, the logo change to X, but they couldn’t change their name to X. So it was—
Georgie 35:30
Yeah. I saw that, yeah.
Geoff 35:31
Twitter and X. And it just shows you he did not plan, he’s like, just get someone to go find out what the guidelines are for, for changing the app name. And that’s all you needed to do. Literally like, okay, I can’t have one letter, so I’m gonna go have to figure that out before trying to change my name. If you see the embeds on different websites, it’s still Twitter.
Georgie 36:01
Oh shit.
Geoff 36:02
It’ll still have the X icon. But like, it’ll be called, like Twitter or something like that. It’s all very stupid.
Georgie 36:08
It’s poorly done. I mean, I dunno. Kind of over it anyway.
Geoff 36:14
Kind of over it. Yeah. Stupid blocking thing. What do you what do you think about paying? For, like, Medium articles and stuff like that?
Georgie 36:27
No. (laughs)
Geoff 36:29
Free press!
Georgie 36:32
Wait, like Medium? No. Because, wait, do you have to pay for Medium now?
Geoff 36:37
I can’t actually tell when I have to pay and when I don’t have to pay. But there are some cases where—
Georgie 36:42
So I think Marques Brownlee, MKBHD, said it best. He said something that was free, shouldn’t just suddenly turn paid.
Geoff 36:42
Yeah, I mean, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. But I don’t think it’s a really—
Georgie 36:59
Like news is free. Oh, it was free. And now it’s not. And like I understand paying people who write good stories and stuff or whatever. But there’s a lot of like, long form articles out there on like, what is it? Is it GQ? I don’t know, the Atlantic, I think still has their really long one about MH 370. And that’s that shit’s free. It’s still free, like eight years later.
Geoff 37:24
Yeah.
Georgie 37:25
And that’s why I have a problem with paying for something. And I literally just click out. There’s no way I’m even going to think about paying because I have grown up having access to you know, television. News is free.
Geoff 37:43
That’s true, although it’s not because of ads.
Georgie 37:48
Yeah, but still like you own a TV and you can connect to the thing, you can even watch online now. Right? Like you don’t need a TV connect, because we don’t have a TV that’s actually set up with the free to air TV, whatever you call it.
Geoff 38:00
Yeah, me neither, I don’t think I’ve connected my TV in a decade. To the, to the—
Georgie 38:06
Yeah—
Geoff 38:06
Aerial.
Georgie 38:06
But if you go online. And it’s, the internet is—okay, the internet’s not free because you gotta pay for it. But yeah.
Geoff 38:15
It’s kind of in a weird spot where they’re trying to monetise news, I guess. And...
Georgie 38:23
If it makes me, so I don’t really read the news. And you know this. And yet there are people who, I mean, we’ve always kind of had to buy newspapers unless they’re like the community paper, which they just throw the local paper at your front door.
Geoff 38:38
Yeah, I used to deliver those.
Georgie 38:40
Paper boy! So I mean, I think a lot of basically to sum up I think a lot of people have grown up being used to that’s that stuff being free and almost some would probably even say a right, like a human right to have access.
Geoff 38:58
True.
Georgie 38:59
To that information because they think it I mean, I don’t believe in fully impacts my life to have access to news depending on what kind it is. But some people think it’s a it’s a human right. And for them to have to pay for that is going to be a huge change in their own life. If it happens on a grander scale.
Geoff 39:18
Yeah, I’m, I’m thinking also like the people who can actually afford to pay for news is also specific cohort, right? In which case, you started pricing out people who can’t generally afford, I dunno, $5 a month just to read the news, and then they will just basically be not as informed as everybody else. And then you get into election crap, but it kind of like gates, I guess.
Georgie 39:56
It’s a bit like education.
Geoff 39:58
Yeah.
Georgie 39:58
A little bit.
Geoff 39:59
Yeah.
Georgie 39:59
It’s information, education is, I don’t know, I think that is a human right. I know every country and whatever deals with this differently, but people definitely have opinions on that stuff should be free.
Geoff 40:13
Yeah.
Georgie 40:14
Because I think it’s important for people to be educated. And you could argue to some extent that reading the news is a form of being educated that can actually help you live your life and make decisions about things around you and things.
Geoff 40:30
Yeah, you know what’s not free? The stuff after the end of this episode, you’re just gonna have to pay to find out all of all the rest of this episode.
Georgie 40:40
Is this podcast free? Let us know what you think.
Geoff 40:44
We’ll keep it free for now. No subscription necessary. So you can find us on @toastroastpod on X.
Georgie 40:57
We’re not, we don’t even post anything.
Geoff 40:59
Yeah, we’re really off the socials. So—
Georgie 41:03
Well, let us know if you want us to be more active on social.
Geoff 41:09
Or don’t. Just, just don’t give us more work. (laughs)
Georgie 41:11
(laughs) Yeah, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big... newspaper. It’s a thing of the past. You know those giant broadsheet, you know what I’m talking about?
Geoff 41:29
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 41:29
Big giant broadsheet newspaper.
Geoff 41:31
Used to find jobs through those things. And new episodes every Monday. So—
Georgie 41:40
See you next week.
Geoff 41:41
Bye.