We spend half an episode trying to math out after what time we’d meet if we were travelling at different speeds towards each other.
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We spend half an episode trying to math out after what time we’d meet if we were travelling at different speeds towards each other.
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Geoff 0:09
And welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I'm your co-host, Geoff. And as always, I am with Georgie.
Georgie 0:18
Hello.
Geoff 0:19
How's it going?
Georgie 0:21
It's going. It's going.
Geoff 0:22
It's going. It's going good.
Georgie 0:25
It's going down for real.
Geoff 0:26
It's gone down. Yeah aren’t you going on a holiday? Going up soon.
Georgie 0:33
Yeah. Going. Wait, hang on depends on which way you're looking at the Earth, I suppose.
Geoff 0:37
Yeah.
Georgie 0:39
Well, it's technically north. So we're getting yes, we're going north. Welll see. I can't say east or west? Because it depends on—actually, you know, what baffles me?
Geoff 0:49
Yeah.
Georgie 0:49
Is when you travel in a certain direction, the fact that you're going against the rotation of the Earth, so it slows you down. It's like, Dude, I studied physics, and there's still—I'm still amuused. Is there anything from like school or something like that? That's like, that still amuses you. Even though logically like, yeah, makes sense. But it's still...
Geoff 1:14
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. The, I mean, I watched I watched an episode of a TV show recently where they, they played on that whole date, the date, international dateline thing, where you cross it, and you’re all of a sudden, in 24 hours in the past, or whichever direction you were when you passed it. I don't know how true that is. But they played on that by making like a Groundhog Day type episode where every time they they were like “three, two, one”. And we, the ship went across the dateline, and then they reversed like 24 hours. And the kid was trying to just like, ask this girl out. Every time they went across the line, he had to do it again. And some something would go wrong.
Georgie 1:57
There's an old joke based on this where it said that a woman gave birth to twins, but they were they were born minutes apart. But their birthdays were like, a day apart and it’s like, how is this possible. And it's like, she gave birth to one twin and then went over the date line, and then she gave birth to the other. When you're a kid, you just kind of like, okay, but when you get older you're like, um? But I read this book recently called Saving time by Jenny Odell. I don’t, I don’t recommend it. Her other book, How To Do Nothing was better. This one was a bit of a bore, but she went into the history of how we as humans, started measuring time. And I guess that's, like we made this up, man. We made up this—
Geoff 2:45
Time is totally relative.
Georgie 2:47
Yeah.
Geoff 2:48
To everything.
Georgie 2:50
It’s our fault. It's our fault that shit’s weird. Yeah,
Geoff 2:53
I mean, we we talked about it, right? There’s an episode about, where we talked about—
Georgie 2:56
Oh yeah a universal world time.
Geoff 2:58
A universal world time. And it'd be like super weird if everybody was on the same time, time zone. But yeah, time is always a really weird one, you know, the mathematic questions like, okay, if I was traveling 50 kilometres an hour, you were travelling 30 kilometres an hour, how, like, how long will it take for us to pass, cross paths or whatever?
Georgie 3:25
Have you seen the one about the maths problem where it says I have 100 chickens and pigs? Or cows or something with four legs? And it says if I count 100 legs into, or, so and so legs in total, how many chickens and pigs do I have? And someone made a Instagram Reel about it, saying why do I need to know? Why do I need to know how many chickens and pigs there are? Why does it even matter? Like am I going to use this in my, in my life? But that was just the nature of maths problems?
Geoff 3:58
Yeah. Yeah, it's always difficult to tell like how it would be useful to people. Because I think math in general is really is like one of the hardest things to understand why you need to know because as soon as you know it, you don't really know that you use it so often. So like you can't say oh, you know, really mundane things like oh you’re going, you're shopping and you find that this thing is $5 but a different thing is $6. But one thing is 500 grams and the other thing is 600 grams, which is the best deal? Like.
Georgie 4:45
Yeah.
Geoff 4:46
Technically we don't do that math anymore anyways, because all the things come with like there’s—
Georgie 4:50
They tell you.
Geoff 4:51
Yeah. How much is 100 grams.
Georgie 4:54
Oh shit.
Geoff 4:56
But but, yeah, in any case, this is funny thing because I was I was playing with my niece who is I think that like, they were like seven, six or seven. They had just started learning math essentially. And I was saying, I just giving them problems, you know, random ones. I'm like, okay, “one plus one”, “two”. And they’re like, “give me a harder one”, I’m like okay. Six divided by three or whatever or multiplication, two times two. They’re like okay, “four, harder one”. So “six divided by three”, “two, harder”. And I'm like, okay, if I'm travelling a hundred kilometres an hour, for three hours, and you’re travelling sixty kilometres an hour for two hours, how long would it take for us to meet up? And she's like, I don't know.
Georgie 5:45
Gotta go to Kumon. (aughs)
Geoff 5:49
See, the thing is with Kumon, I find that it's like, it's really good drilling you into like, remembering patterns. But as soon as you get a question like that, it's really terrible. Kumon, Kumon doesn't—
Georgie 5:59
Yeah, because they're very repetitive, sort of like repeating core skills, but not application of such skills.
Geoff 6:08
Exactly. So they'll never tell you why you need to know 50 divided by 100, multiply by three over 2, they just won’t tell you why. You just know how to do it.
Georgie 6:24
Yeah. The other kind of maths problem that I saw mocked in some video is the one where you, you come across a very difficult problem with like, logarithms or something. And it's got a part A, and it goes in part B, it's like “now use your answer from part A”—
Geoff 6:44
Oh, no.
Georgie 6:45
To draw the gra—and you’re like, fuck, you, I couldn't even get part A, minus 13 points.
Geoff 6:52
Yeah, there's a math pattern, I think going around as well, where they showed two columns of numbers. And they were like one... Now, I don't know the pattern, exactly. But it was like 1, 0, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 6. And then they went 6, 8, 9, 6, 8, 7, whatever. And it's one of those ones where it's sort of like you kind of get the pattern where you’re like okay, so you added the first, I've added the two previously, to the one that I'm looking at. And that's the answer. So the equation is, yeah, the two before it, minus each other plus the one that I'm looking at, or something along those lines. But the thing is, it's, it skipped four and five. And it just gave you like six and a number. So everyone just assumed, oh, okay. Like this would be the equation and it works out. But two two different groups of people had two different equations, because they were like, sure, that pattern, but there's, there's also like, oh, it was the left side, divided by the right side gets you the same answer.
Georgie 8:17
So is it like, the two groups had different numbers removed from—
Geoff 8:22
No, no, it's just two peop—two groups of people who thought two different algorithms like—
Georgie 8:26
But they were both correct?
Geoff 8:27
But they both get the same answer. But they were like—
Georgie 8:31
Oh right.
Geoff 8:32
They were like arguing about I can't even remember what the—
Georgie 8:34
This reminds me of when they tell you to write your working out on the—
Geoff 8:38
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Georgie 8:39
By the way, working out we... Well I don’t know what you call it in, not not in Australia. But your, what is it? Like when you're trying to solve the problem to do to write your work as you go or whatever?
Geoff 8:52
Yeah.
Georgie 8:52
I just had this feeling it's not called the same thing in the US. That's why I said that.
Geoff 8:57
The funny thing is about that is like, people, sometimes math differently, I realised, like how many people can do like two, two plus two, in so many different ways.
Georgie 9:11
Like we talked about this a little bit as well. And I think I said to you, when I'm adding something like nine plus seven, my mind puts the like, makes the nine a 10 and then adds six, but I see in my mind, I see dots, for some reason. And every time I every time I do a small number, like add small numbers, I see groups of dots in like two columns, which I'm sure if someone else were to explain what goes through their mind would be completely different to what I just said.
Geoff 9:40
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to find it, but I don't think is exactly like there's so many math memes out there. But yeah, it was quite it was quite interesting. And then they said mathematicians would not answer this question because actually, they're missing two numbers between the full sequence so like giving any answer‚ is actually incorrect. Like there's, there's no way to know what the what the sequence is if you're missing some numbers. Oh man. But yeah, it was quite funny. So now it's just a joke between me and my partner but how like, just doing doing time math. We're trying to just talk about simple math. And I’m like, like, yeah, but if you're travelling at a hundred kilometres an hour. (laughs)
Georgie 10:28
(laughs) What's the answer? I need to know.
Geoff 10:33
Yeah. And she did ask me it later. My partner was like, do you even know the answer to that? I’m like, no.
Georgie 10:40
Wait so hang on, wait. I actually, I actually want to know. So you're saying if one person is travelling in one direction at a certain speed, and the other person is travelling towards them at a different speed?
Geoff 10:50
At a different speed.
Georgie 10:51
Is it how long?
Geoff 10:52
How long will it take for them to cross paths or something like that?
Georgie 10:56
Okay, well, let's say you're going at like 60 kilometres an hour. And I'm going at 30.
Geoff 11:02
Which is for Americans...
Georgie 11:04
Oh.
Geoff 11:06
Actually, 60—
Georgie 11:07
Could be 60 miles.
Geoff 11:08
60 miles. 60 miles an hour is 100 kilometres an hour?
Georgie 11:10
Yeah. It doesn't matter, though. Like we could just say whether it's miles or kilometres.
Geoff 11:14
True, true, true.
Georgie 11:15
Okay. So you, if you, if we’re going in the same direction, but how far are we apart to begin with, mate? Like—
Geoff 11:20
Doesn’t give the answer.
Georgie 11:21
Like, if I was in front of you. I'd be just—
Geoff 11:24
I mean, we're going towards each other.
Georgie 11:26
Yeah, but how far are we? Because to know, at what point we would meet, we have to know—you know what I mean?
Geoff 11:33
Yes,
Georgie 11:33
Right? If I was a metre away from you—
Geoff 11:35
A metre away.
Georgie 11:37
ike, it will take like two milliseconds. (laughs)
Geoff 11:39
Yes. No, actually. Yeah, yeah you would have to know, which, which is, is obviously—
Georgie 11:46
So let’s say you were going—
Geoff 11:46
...a flawed math problem. I just wanted—
Georgie 11:48
So let’s say you're going at six, like six, you are 60 kilometres.
Geoff 11:53
Away.
Georgie 11:53
You're going at 60 kilometres. Yeah, let's just say it's 60, right?
Geoff 11:56
Yeah.
Georgie 11:56
And you're at 60 kilometres an hour, and I'm at about half that speed.
Geoff 12:00
Yeah.
Georgie 12:01
So let's say half an hour has passed. You've gone 30?
Geoff 12:05
Yes.
Georgie 12:06
I've gone 30.
Geoff 12:06
No, you haven't.
Georgie 12:08
Oh, no, I’ve gone—
Geoff 12:09
Cos you’ve gone 15.
Georgie 12:10
I’ve gone 15. Okay, so then would you go 60 takeaway 30, takeaway 15. So then now we're 15 kilometres apart. All right.
Geoff 12:18
It's truly exemplified the fact that you like maths. Because I would not—
Georgie 12:22
I just want—okay, hang on. So half an hour has passed. How long can you run in 15 minutes?
Geoff 12:28
Distance, math, calculator.
Georgie 12:33
So we've got fif—so in half an hour, it's gonna be more than half an hour. Also, none of us can run that fast. Let's just say we're in a car.
Geoff 12:41
Oh, my god, the calculator is even more complicated. I don't even know how to use this calculator. 2D distance calculator.
Georgie 12:48
I need, I actually want to figure this out now. So—
Geoff 12:51
Okay, so, in half an hour. But the thing is, it'll take me an hour to go all the way across the 60 kilometres, right. I know.
Georgie 12:57
But that's irrelevant, because we're trying to figure out when are we going to meet?
Geoff 12:59
Yeah, yeah exactly. And you will take how long to take six, to do 60 kilometres an hour, to just do 60 kilometres. You take two hours, right?
Georgie 13:07
Yeah.
Geoff 13:07
So if I were travelling sixty kilometers, an hour, isn't it like 60 minutes divided by—
Georgie 13:19
So the funny thing is how we're both trying to solve this. I'm trying to solve this by visualising, at what point like how, let's say half, that's like, half an hour's past, like we still have a distance, and you're just trying to figure out, you know, that you can go the entire, like, 60 in an hour. And then you're going from there. And I’m like, what?!
Geoff 13:38
Yeah. So you're right. So if it takes you an hour to get to 30 kilometres, you already travelled half, half the distance. And it takes me 30 minutes to travel 30 kilometres. Right.
Georgie 13:56
Yes.
Geoff 13:57
That it would take us—
Georgie 13:58
Well then you’re just in the middle and you’re waiting.
Geoff 13:59
...some kind of delta. (laughs) I’m like, there’s some kind of delta for doing this thing.
Georgie 14:03
I, that’s why at the same point, I'm saying that, well, if we do that, after half an hour, you have gone further than me.
Geoff 14:10
Oh, would it be a quarter? Would it be a quarter of the time in which—
Georgie 14:15
I think it’s a third?
Geoff 14:15
It'd be 15, 15 minutes? Maybe? No? No, the inverse. 45 minutes. It'll take us 45 minutes to meet.
Georgie 14:27
Yeah. Do you think that makes sense?
Geoff 14:28
Yeah, I think so.
Georgie 14:29
Okay, so how long would you, I mean, yeah, okay, so—
Geoff 14:31
What's three quarters of 60 kilometres?
Georgie 14:36
Yeah, so yeah, if you go 0.75 times six—
Geoff 14:39
You of course have a calculator on hand.
Georgie 14:41
I, yeah. Because—
Geoff 14:43
Same as your... ruler.
Georgie 14:46
So in 45 minutes, you will have gone 45.
Geoff 14:51
Yes.
Georgie 14:52
Okay. But if we're, now we're going to find like three quarters of 30 which is my distance and that's 22.5.
Geoff 15:01
Yeah. In which case we have met.
Georgie 15:04
Wait is it 22.5? Plus 45?
Geoff 15:09
Is there an actual—
Georgie 15:09
No, that's 67.5.
Geoff 15:12
What? No as in like, you've travelled, in 45 minutes.
Georgie 15:18
I've travelled only 22.5 K's.
Geoff 15:20
Kilometres? Yeah.
Georgie 15:21
Yeah, you've travelled 45?
Geoff 15:23
Yes.
Georgie 15:23
But if we're 60, oh wait, hang on.
Geoff 15:25
We’re 60 kilometres apart. So therefore, we are overlapping by two, two kilometres. So it's not exact.
Georgie 15:30
Yeah. It's not exact. It's not 45. It's less,
Geoff 15:33
It's less than 45.
Georgie 15:35
What is it?
Geoff 15:37
42.5?
Georgie 15:37
40?
Geoff 15:38
I don't know.
Georgie 15:38
Okay, so if it's 40, how much is like, in 40 minutes, you've gone 40. In 40 minutes—
Geoff 15:45
You know what, we should just ask ChatGPT. Like ChatGPT could do this.
Georgie 15:48
Yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
Geoff 15:49
It’ll mansplain it to us. If I'm travelling—
Georgie 15:56
I'm trying to figure out while you do that...
Geoff 15:58
Sixty kilometres an hour. And a second person...
Georgie 16:05
I am so willing to bet someone listening to this has figured this out already and I’m laughing.
Geoff 16:09
Thirty kilometres and hour, and we are 60 kilometres apart. When—
Georgie 16:15
If we travelled towards each other—
Geoff 16:18
When will we meet? Yeah.
Georgie 16:19
You need to write, if we’re travelling...
Geoff 16:20
Oh. Toward, towards each other.
Georgie 16:26
No I think...
Geoff 16:28
Okay, “to determine when you when you and the second person will meet, you can use the concept of relative speed when two objects are moving towards each other, their relative speed is the sum of their individual speeds”.
Georgie 16:38
Oh my goodness.
Geoff 16:39
In this case, your relative—
Georgie 16:40
Really?
Geoff 16:40
...speed is 60 kilometres plus 30 kilometres an hour equals 90 kilometres an hour. Given that you're initially 60 kilometres apart, your relative speed is 90 kilometres, you can calculate the time it takes for you to meet by using the formula distance divided by speed equals was time. So time is equal to 60 kilometres divided by 90 equals 0.67 hours convert to time as minutes is 40.2 minutes. So you and the person would approximately—
Georgie 17:08
I feel like I should have known this. I studied physics. (laughs)
Geoff 17:12
(laughs)
Georgie 17:12
But okay, so here's the thing, right? In physics, I knew that formula time because distance over speed.
Geoff 17:17
Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I knew that formula.
Georgie 17:19
But you give me a problem. I'm like, how do I—
Geoff 17:22
Yeah.
Georgie 17:23
It’s the application that I don't know that what, how I find the answer to that this problem?
Geoff 17:27
Yeah.
Georgie 17:28
Is that I need that. Fuck off!
Geoff 17:30
Yeah. Like the algorithm, like the time equals distance divided speed doesn't doesn't seem applicable. Because the way you phrased it, if you told, if I asked you, all right, time, like, divide the distance by speed to get me the time, then I’ll be like, OK.
Georgie 17:49
And I think there's a difference. And I think I recognise this as, when I was in high school is that maths just like arithmetic or whatever is very different to, quote unquote, problem solving.
Geoff 18:01
Yeah.
Georgie 18:01
Problem solving is like something like this some bullshit, like, you know, I've got, like, pigs and chickens like 100 of them, which this kind of shit that you just like, why you have to figure out how to how to find the answer.
Geoff 18:16
How well do you do in escape rooms?
Georgie 18:20
Oh, like, you know, in most of the ones I've done, we've, we've done pretty well. But it's very interesting, depending on the people and with the the team dynamic and what people tend to gravitate towards.
Geoff 18:30
Yeah.
Georgie 18:31
In terms of the problems that they like to solve. I did one where there was one person who was just very good at all sort of like, the secret code type of things. They were very, they were very good at sort of trying to find an answer from some code. So every puzzle that was like that, they would figure out quite quickly, and you could tell they're really good at it.
Geoff 18:54
Yeah. I like. Yeah, like you said, it was a bit interesting, but the way you started approaching the solution an the way I started approaching the solution. And we're both engineers. So we problem solve all day, essentially. But this is definitely something that time, time math is never, it's not really used these days I reckon.
Georgie 19:21
Speaking of escape rooms, though, I was going to ask you, what do you gravitate towards in an escape room? What do you think you are good at figuring out?
Geoff 19:29
Eh, I don’t know. I think, how pieces are relevant to each other, I guess?
Georgie 19:37
Like the full picture?
Geoff 19:39
Might be the—yeah, it's kind of indicative of how I work at, how I do work, sort of.
Georgie 19:44
You zoom out and you—
Geoff 19:46
Understanding. Yeah, how everything kind of fits together and what steps we probably need to take to achieve a certain goal.
Georgie 19:56
Yeah, interesting. I think I'm the person who always wants to look for clues in random places, like leave no stone unturned kind of thing.
Geoff 20:07
Ah. “The researcher”.
Georgie 20:08
And also assume, what's the thing?
Geoff 20:14
Everything's a red herring.
Georgie 20:16
Yeah, like, just the details. So it's all about the details. And I'm like, what if there was something under that thing? What if that is to do with that?
Geoff 20:25
Yeah, I think when escape rooms started coming out, they did a lot less of that. They did a lot more, this is the room, this is the puzzle for this room. And when you get to the next room, there'll be a new puzzle to solve. And then—
Georgie 20:43
Like, straightforward.
Geoff 20:44
Yeah. And then they started getting into the second phase of escape rooms where, alright, so you've solved the puzzle in this room. But you might need something from this room to solve a puzzle in the next room.
Georgie 20:57
And you gotta be like running a race sort of running around going the thing you found out there.
Geoff 21:02
Yeah.
Georgie 21:02
Is not useful immediately. But like, it's yeah.
Geoff 21:04
Yeah. But the thing is, with the second phase, I feel like they only did that one room or, like removed. So it'd be immediately the previous room if it was anything, so it's kind of made sense. But now as I did a recent one, my god it's three rooms deep and usually they're only like two, or they used to be only two, now they're three. Obviously people were like, oh, I gotta make something up for this. Anyways. One two, and you needed something all the way from room one.
Georgie 21:35
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 21:35
So like in room three, and that's when they running around just, just gets to you.
Georgie 21:41
It’s like kind of chaos. There's also ones where have you ever had one where you didn't realise that there was another room? And then suddenly the door open? And you're like shit, there’s another?
Geoff 21:53
Yeah.
Georgie 21:54
We had one when there was I guess a hidden door that we didn't realise, we, in the main it's from the main room. The main room, whatever, got through it. There was a second room was fine and then after we figured that out, the door right next to the entrance just like, the wall just like opened. And it was like timed, and it was like shit. And I think we lost because we didn't have enough time and we were panicking because it's supposed to be like a bomb, was the—
Geoff 22:20
Yeah.
Georgie 22:21
Was the story.
Geoff 22:24
Oh, our room was the it was a hidden door I believe. But obviously when you get into the first room, you assume there's going to be a second one but we just didn't know where the door was. We had to reflect the light from a source into a specific hole in, in a specific part of this like make tree, and then and then the door opened. And I was like no freaking way.
Georgie 22:55
I've seen one of those too. Yeah.
Geoff 22:57
It's pretty cool. There's other ones where there's like the room split, literally split in half. The room split in half and you get you went out and then you then you rolled in a sort of a cart wheel like a hamster wheel thing to the end of this tunnel, and then you got up and then you continued the escape room. I'm like oh my god.
Georgie 23:19
That's pretty sick.
Geoff 23:20
Yeah, it was pretty creepy. That's pretty crazy. Like we're in a room and then we've solving this puzzle and then like okay, now you turn this wheel, and the room just does splitting apart. That's pretty crazy stuff.
Georgie 23:36
What's the most sort of like ominous escape room experience that you've had?
Geoff 23:42
There was this one that was eight person. Um, and it was it was, not a sing—it's wasn't really a room room like you get a room, open a door.
Georgie 23:55
Yeah.
Geoff 23:55
It’s this like exp, like you think about a it's basically an open space almost an open space and they had like sort of a maze of black sheets and stuff like that.
Georgie 24:11
Oh my god. That sounds kind of creepy.
Geoff 24:14
You get you pick up these random like ornaments... not ornaments. Things, random things like—
Georgie 24:22
Props?
Geoff 24:22
Yeah, this props. Yeah, the Saw mask. axes, daggers and stuff like that. Not relevant. They're just there for cosplay.
Georgie 24:31
Yeah.
Geoff 24:31
And you kind of do go into like a couple of rooms. But there was a big main room and they had like, red numbers painted on the black walls and you had to like communicate across the different walls to—
Georgie 24:47
Oh my god. I—
Geoff 24:48
...figure out—
Georgie 24:49
Have we done the same, have we done the same one?
Geoff 24:51
Maybe?
Georgie 24:52
So I was in a group of maybe six people or something and with one other person they chained us to this to this—
Geoff 24:59
No chaining in this one. But—
Georgie 25:01
Okay, but we were chained and we had to shout through the wall because we had no idea. I think they, they blindfolded us so we didn't even know where they exactly were. So when we come in here, this room has got kind of like these big knobs on the wall and I think there's like—
Geoff 25:13
I think I've done that one.
Georgie 25:14
Looks like a murdery sort of, looks like something bad's happened. And I'm just like, oh, this this creepy, and we had to shout the numbers through the wall.
Geoff 25:21
Yeah, I’ve done—
Georgie 25:23
For them to open up. And like, let us escape or whatever.
Geoff 25:26
I've done a combo of that one, actually, where we had a, we will walk were handcuffed to each other. And I was thinking is there, what’s the legality of this. But—
Georgie 25:39
Yeah.
Geoff 25:39
Handcuffed to each other, walking through multiple rooms. So what they've done is actually put a start room at the back. And then you actually, you actually escape forward, back to the rooms. So they had to blindfold us and we were walking all the way to the back and then we get we get locked up, we got locked up in in a jail cell. And I think the other two were locked outside the jail cell. And then you had to kind of communicate to figure out how to get the keys to get your cuffs off. And then then I did a different one where it was a, it was a plane. And two people were locked in the cockpit and two people were locked outside the cockpit and you had to communicate, like through the cockpit wall, how to unlock the door to like, get back together. Anyways, the dark and ominous one was like you had to reflect more, you had to reflect light at this big spider in the top right corner to kill it or something like that. And then there was like a big, I don't even know what you call it, there was there was a big statue of some sort. And I think I'm not in the same one. But I've also been in one where there’s an actual person. I think I've been in one with a person in it.
Georgie 26:57
Oh my god.
Geoff 26:57
Like a moving, living person. So.
Georgie 27:01
Are you—why is this freaking me out? I don't think I've ever been—
Geoff 27:03
Yeah.
Georgie 27:04
In one where there’s a person.
Geoff 27:05
I've seen ones where they chase you. But I've, but I didn't go to that.
Georgie 27:08
What?
Geoff 27:08
Yeah. Yeah.
Georgie 27:10
I’m trying to remember the one that we did.
Geoff 27:13
Did we do one?
Georgie 27:13
Yeah. It was at the—
Geoff 27:13
So long ago.
Georgie 27:13
Was that the one where we were in a single room and there was a computer? I'm trying to remember if this was the right one.
Oh. Did we do, we did the one without a second room. It was a lift, right? Was it a lift? No.
Was it a lift?
Geoff 27:27
Different? There is one that’s a single one.
Georgie 27:29
I think it was just, I think it's actually just one room.
Geoff 27:31
Are you sure we’ve done one together?
Georgie 27:33
Was there a menu? Yeah, there's I've got a photo dude.
Geoff 27:37
Yeah, kind of vaguely remember this photo?
Georgie 27:39
Yeah, I, I have it. Let me let me find this, under my desk.
Geoff 27:43
What? You, wow, you keep our photo under your desk.
Georgie 27:47
Haha. It's in a box. It's in a box. It’s this one.
Geoff 27:51
Ah? Oh, yes. Yes. I remember Monica and Phuong were there. I can't remember—
Georgie 27:58
Is it like—
Geoff 27:59
...what the escape room, it's, what's the name of it? It's on there—
Georgie 28:03
Mission?
Geoff 28:04
Oh, yes. Okay, I think yes, I remember. What—
Georgie 28:08
Is this the one on Pitt Street?
Geoff 28:10
Ah, so you weren’t there for this one, but we I don't know the escape room where it's just a single room and that was like an elevator and then like the person had had like, gone up the shaft to fix the elevator and they had died. So you go into the elevator, the elevator shuts, and then somebody falls—
Georgie 28:27
(gasp)
Geoff 28:28
From up above, like—
Georgie 28:28
Oh my god.
Geoff 28:29
Not a head, but you know, close enough people just assume it's going to be a head.
Georgie 28:33
Yeah, yeah, it's freaky shit. Yeah.
Geoff 28:35
Freaky shit.
Georgie 28:35
Oh my god.
Geoff 28:37
Sorry for anyone in Sydney that hasn't done a multitude of these escape rooms, I feel like I've done most of them.
Georgie 28:43
I feel like I've done a bunch of these.
Geoff 28:45
Yeah. Oh cool. They've got some new ones.
Georgie 28:49
They’ve got new ones.
Geoff 28:49
The Japanese one.
Georgie 28:50
Oh they have a George Street—
Geoff 28:51
The Sacrifice Suite. Oh—
Georgie 28:55
So the one I think we did was the one with, was it the one with the menu? There was like a menu, a restaurant menu—
Geoff 29:02
Man I don't even remember like the one we did.
Georgie 29:03
Or it was like a takeaway menu and there was a phone?
Geoff 29:08
Describing like eighty percent of these.
Georgie 29:10
There was a phone with like a, I don't even know how to describe it. There was a recorded message of someone orders something I think, but then there was a really rudimentary computer in the corner with some files on it and that had some clues too. But I remember being like a single room—
Geoff 29:27
Trapped? I don’t know. Um. So yeah.
Georgie 29:32
Oh yeah, that is an elevator one.
Geoff 29:34
Yeah. Intern incident, up until now the case... yeah, this is the the elevator one. But you actually enter the elevator and then you exit, you have to like try and get out of the elevator so I guess it is two rooms but you you do most of your problem solving within the hotel room. Which is quite interesting. 100 minutes. This is, this is no joke.
Georgie 29:56
What if you need to pee?
Geoff 29:57
You don’t get to pee.
Georgie 29:58
Always my, always my question.
Geoff 30:00
It's, the newer ones. Like, I think you can just leave and then come back in. I don't know about ever leaving older ones. It's harder with the one that I just described where they walk you blindfolded through three rooms and then like they put you into a jail cell at the end. So how do you pee? You can't. Now the entrance is like the first room and then you go deeper, and then you come back out. Right? So, then you can pee, I guess.
Georgie 30:27
I guess it's like yeah, if you don't just make sure you're prepared to not use the bathroom for like—
Geoff 30:33
Yeah.
Georgie 30:34
The duration.
Geoff 30:35
Gonna have to gather some people because this is minimum three, and best with four or five people. So.
Georgie 30:43
Wow.
Geoff 30:44
Yeah.
Georgie 30:45
I haven't done one in a while.
Geoff 30:48
“Your friend has disappeared. He had the strongest interest in old folktales and mysteries and was researching the legend of these stories. He mentioned he was travelling to where the legend originate, but he never returned. He spoke little of his research but did mention that it was an ancient legend involving mythical creature. If this creature was to be found, it would grant you any wish you desire. With limited knowledge about the situation, you go to his studio, hoping to discover more about his investigation with whereabouts”. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Georgie 31:15
I love how the notes are like, not suitable to those with claustrophobia. Like I, I don't like, I don't like confined spaces, but I feel like escape rooms are fine.
Geoff 31:27
You're forcibly locked into a room.
Georgie 31:31
So the only thing that I think I find, really—oh, yeah, that. Have you been to DisneySea?
Geoff 31:39
No, but we don't plan to go.
Georgie 31:42
Oh, why not?
Geoff 31:43
We've chosen. It is, it was either Disney or Universal Studios, and Harry Potter World trumps everything so.
Georgie 31:50
I thought you were gonna, I thought you're trying to pick between Disneyland and DisneySea, and I recommend DisneySea.
Geoff 31:56
No, my sis, my sisters are livid. They're like what? Why? Why wouldn’t you go to Disney?
Georgie 32:02
It's whatever. I'm not livid like, makes sense. Whatever. Plus, it's your it's your holiday, not mine. But yeah, if I was choosing between the Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea, I’d so with DisneySea anyway, there's like a 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea kind of ride and you're in this like, underground little submarine capsule thing, but it's really tiny, super cramped. You're not there for very long, it’s a very short ride. You justt kind of see through the—
Geoff 32:31
Porthole.
Georgie 32:32
Under the sea. Yeah, thank you.
Geoff 32:35
They’re a submarine. So I guess it's not really called a porthole because you're not a hole in a port. But anyways.
Georgie 32:41
Well, it's not a submarine, it's like a small pod or whatever it is.
Geoff 32:44
OK.
Georgie 32:45
Technically called. It was really cramped. Like Nick, as a tall person. We were just I don't, and that was a little bit uncomfortable. I was like, oh, god, I can't wait for this ride to end. The other thing that I totally refuse to do. Is those Zorb ball things in New Zealand.
Geoff 32:59
Zorb ball things?
Georgie 33:00
Yeah, like you're in this ball.
Geoff 33:03
Oh.
Georgie 33:03
Have I talked to you about this?
Geoff 33:04
I don't know if you talked about it, but I know what you mean.
Georgie 33:07
It's like a giant—
Geoff 33:09
Clear bubble thing?
Georgie 33:11
And you’re rolling down a slightly like sloped surface, hill. I wouldn't call it a full on hill.
Geoff 33:17
Yeah.
Georgie 33:18
You’re rolling down like a maze. And you can you can go in one with water, which just sounded really disgusting to me. I was like, no, because like, not only are you in this ball, but you're rolling. You have no control.
Geoff 33:32
Yeah.
Georgie 33:32
Over this ball. Like what if you want to stop? I feel like it's a panic attack waiting to happen.
Geoff 33:37
I've seen challenges in some shows where they put two people in that and I'm thinking—
Georgie 33:42
Oh yeah two people fit in there.
Geoff 33:44
...ridiculous. Like, that's a accident. You’re gonna kick someone in the face.
Georgie 33:48
You’re gonna kick someone. Yeah, injuries, man.
Geoff 33:50
Oh, by the way, this is live actors, is 5D effects.
Georgie 33:54
What's the hell is five—hang on. What is 4D? And then what is 5D?
Geoff 34:00
Yeah, it's a good question. Because 3D is visual. Like it pokes out at you. 4D, your seat moves.
Georgie 34:10
But the fourth dimension is technically time.
Geoff 34:13
(laughs)
Georgie 34:14
So what the fuck?
Geoff 34:17
Yeah, I guess they didn't really think about the technicalities around it but essentially it's like sense, other senses, feel, touch, touch, and because they spray water in your face I don't think—have you ever been to a 4D ride? Like a 4D movie?
Georgie 34:31
Yeah. Yeah, I've been on like a ride where they kind of yeah, they have air.
Geoff 34:36
Yeah, so you—
Georgie 34:37
A breeze.
Geoff 34:37
...get to feel things,
Georgie 34:38
Yeah, okay.
Geoff 34:39
I'm not entirely sure what 4D effects are? Can find out what a 5D effect is. Lightning, thunder, wind, frost, rain, snowing, explosion impact, to simulate this.
Georgie 34:54
Oh my god there’s a 7D?
Geoff 34:56
Oh yeah. You know you go to Gold Coast, they like to try and sell you on these 5D 7D things. But man, I don’t. Environmental seat special effects, audiovVideo effects. Where’s the, what's the seventh dimension then? Oh it’s 5D slash 7D, so it's like 5D could be called 7D?
Georgie 35:23
I saw like 9D when you did the search. What’s like 9?
Geoff 35:28
What is a 7D? Simulated ride packed with cinema audio and 120 inch...
Georgie 35:33
XD, what the hell is an XD?
Geoff 35:36
What's the 12D movie? Imagine watching a movie in a theatre with a giant screen, simulation seats, special effects, surround system and especially designed glasses.
Georgie 35:45
So you could call it anything call it 99D.
Geoff 35:48
Yeah, you could, double...
Georgie 35:49
It’s the same shit as like 5D.
Geoff 35:52
Here we go, this is, here we go. There's a whole...
Georgie 35:54
Yeah, exactly. There's a whole spectrum, there's a whole gamut.
Geoff 35:56
Whole gamut.
Georgie 35:59
Ga-mutt.
Geoff 35:59
Ga-mutt. 5D, hydraulic electric motion dynamic seats system, 7D, 5.1 digital surround system, two main loudspeakers, two surround speakers, you're just describing seven. You just, are they just describing surround sound 7.1? (laughs) system? Special effects, projection, and 9D computer control-e system with 7D camera effects.
Georgie 36:28
You know what, you know what's ridiculous is what they're describing is literally real life. It's just real life, people.
Geoff 36:35
Yeah.
Georgie 36:35
It's just normal life.
Geoff 36:37
That made sounds, like, Jenny... from from the block. Wanted to chat.
Georgie 36:46
Don’t be fooled by the rocks that I got, I’m still, I’m still Jenny from the block. I didn’t hear the, I didn't hear the sound. It probably came out through your earphones. But.
Geoff 36:54
It's one of the support Windows that they were like, hey, do you need help? And it's just like [jingle sound], god, that's a 7D website right here.
Georgie 37:04
(laughs) You know, that reminds me of, the, when it says website. You got those gifs that says open 24/7?
Geoff 37:12
Yeah.
Georgie 37:13
From the 90s. Also, it's funny that you said Jenny like Jenny from the block. I was thinking that's the same thing.
Geoff 37:21
Yeah.
Georgie 37:21
Hey have you seen that, those memes about Kelly Rowland in... a, and Nelly and she's writing a text message on an Excel sheet.
Geoff 37:30
No.
Georgie 37:31
Oh my god. Look. Just go, “Kelly Rowland, dilemma excel”, “excel meme”. So the song Dilemma with I think it's Nelly, featuring Kelly Rowland. She's sending him a text. It says “where are you at? Holla when you get this”. And—
Geoff 37:50
Oh right.
Georgie 37:51
And when you look closely in the screenshot of the the video clip for the song, it's in a spreadsheet.
Geoff 38:00
So this is like a 90s flip phone. This is a 90s flip phone of some sort. Yeah, this is a clamshell, she's opened it up. It's got a full QWERTY keyboard, which is my favourite thing about back in the day. But yeah, what the hell. Typing on a spreadsheet.
Georgie 38:18
The most outrageous thing was, she was asked about this on a talk show.
Geoff 38:22
Yeah.
Georgie 38:22
Like what's, with the what, and she said she didn't even know what Microsoft Excel was.
Geoff 38:27
Oh man.
Georgie 38:28
And people said Imagine living in a world where you don't need to know what that is.
Geoff 38:33
Um.
Georgie 38:33
And she didn’t get it.
Geoff 38:36
For one. It's really impressive that Excel was working on these phones.
Georgie 38:41
Yeah.
Geoff 38:41
For two, it's funny because my partner’s mum, I think she was telling me about how like accountants, back where she worked, didn't know how to use Excel or something like that. And I'm like, yeah, that's like, that's like Office 101. Like you don't get hired without knowing what Microsoft, like how to use Microsoft Office.
Georgie 39:01
Yeah I would say especially for an accountant.
Geoff 39:03
Yeah. But yes, that's hilarious, because you obviously can't send text messages through—
Georgie 39:10
Apparently—
Geoff 39:10
Through Excel.
Georgie 39:11
You can send an email though. With some formula, someone bloody figured it. Some Excel expert, said you could write some formula to open up an email client and send it to an email address. So.
Geoff 39:23
This reminds me of Mars with... our lovely, what's his name? The guy who always gets lost in space, Mars movie.
Georgie 39:34
Who is the guy who always gets lost in space?
Geoff 39:36
Martian, sorry, Martian. It is... oh I can’t remember his name.
Georgie 39:41
Matt Damon?
Geoff 39:42
Matt Damon, yeah. Matt Damon.
Georgie 39:47
Did you see The Bourne, the Bourne movies, right?
Geoff 39:50
No, I haven't seen the Bourne movies.
Georgie 39:50
Oh, so, because someone did a, I think it was Honest Movie Trailers, did a meme on it. I mean, it's worth watching that alone if you're not going to watch the whole thing and it's just like he's always angry. He’s always like, [US accent] “I don't know who I am”.
Geoff 39:54
He lost his memories. I’d be angry too.
Georgie 40:04
I don't, and it just cuts like constantly. “I don't know who I am”.
Geoff 40:12
That just reminds me of The Room. “Why do you do this to me, Lisa? Why Lisa?”
Georgie 40:17
“You’re tearing me apart”.
Geoff 40:19
“I love you Lisa”. “You’re tearing me apart”. Yeah.
Georgie 40:22
“Oh hi, Mark”. (laughs)
Geoff 40:22
Oh hi, Mark”. So basically, in this film, I honestly don't remember most of this film. It's directed by Ridley Scott. Really? Anyways—
Georgie 40:35
What else has Ridley Scott done?
Geoff 40:36
She does alien movies. She's Ridley Scott from Alien movies.
Georgie 40:40
Ah wow. Yeah yeah.
Geoff 40:42
Anyways, so I don't even remember what this movie was about, except for he was lost in space, because I was so fixated on the fact that he had two laptops. And he dragged, from one laptop over to the other. And I was like, oh, my god, that is truly futuristic. I don’t know how we would do that today? It's like impossible.
Georgie 41:04
Hasn’t Apple done this with like the iPad and the sidecar?
Geoff 41:07
But iPad is, I suppose, but iPad is like in a sidebar mode. So it becomes an extended monitor. These are two separate operating computers that have aren’t extending each other.
Georgie 41:21
AirDrop, AirDrop?
Geoff 41:23
AirDrop? I guess that's the closest thing we have. Because you do open the same app.
Georgie 41:28
Yeah, you're not physically drag... I mean—
Geoff 41:32
If you have an app open on your phone—
Georgie 41:33
You can do collaborating on the same document?
Geoff 41:36
Yeah, I guess. But it's it was the same window. So if you had Google Chrome.
Georgie 41:41
Yeah.
Geoff 41:41
You had Chrome, and—
Georgie 41:42
Literally.
Geoff 41:42
Just dragged Chrome across, on to a different computer. I think that was pretty amazing. We do have continuity. So if you have the app open on your phone, you can technically open it on your MacBook like Messages. You can just—
Georgie 41:55
Oh right.
Geoff 41:56
Have Messages open.
Georgie 41:57
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 41:57
But yeah, dragging and dropping? That's next level.
Georgie 42:00
Yeah. Actually, something that Nelly said in response to all of those memes is I think he said, Yeah, look at the time, it actually looked cool, because at the time it looked futuristic, it looked like new tech, he said, I can see why it's silly now.
Geoff 42:14
He also has trapped in the closet. Is that the same guy?
Georgie 42:17
Did he sing that song? I don't—
Geoff 42:19
It's a whole, it's a it's a, it's a rock opera or R&B? Oh, it's R Kelly.
Georgie 42:25
R Kelly. Not Nelly. Yeah.
Geoff 42:27
Anyways, um, speaking of trapped in the closet, which—
Georgie 42:31
Trapped in an escape room?
Geoff 42:33
Or an escape room, it’s time to escape from this podcast. So you can find us on @toastroastpod on X.
Georgie 42:42
Yeah. You can find our podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you find your podcasts, and the big, big escape room.
Geoff 42:53
Nice. And new episodes every Monday. So...
Georgie 42:57
See you next week.
Geoff 42:59
Bye.