The genuine desire to help out those in need. And gadgets pitched on Shark Tank—are they worth your money?
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The genuine desire to help out those in need. And gadgets pitched on Shark Tank—are they worth your money?
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Geoff 0:00
Hi. And welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host, Geoff and as always, I’m with Georgie. Hi Georgie.
Georgie 0:18
Yo.
Geoff 0:19
What’s up. What’s up, wtih you?
Georgie 0:21
The sky is.
Geoff 0:23
Sky’s, sky’s skies up. How’s your, how’s your week been?
Georgie 0:26
Yeah, it’s overwhelming. Actually, I went to the WeWork because we don’t have an office anymore. Did I even tell you—
Geoff 0:31
Gross.
Georgie 0:31
...this story?
Geoff 0:33
Actually, you told me that you moved to WeWork and then for s...I’m pretty sure you said something along the lines of you got, you got rid of WeWork, are you back then?
Georgie 0:42
We got rid of the dedicated space in the WeWork. So we still have access to it.
Geoff 0:46
Oh.
Georgie 0:47
So what they’re doing is what our company is doing is booking a room, a large meeting room once every fortnight for the whole day so that people can come in and just hang out and still, you know, have the social aspect. So I went—
Geoff 1:01
Cram you all into one room?
Georgie 1:02
Haha. The funny thing is people still use, like, you can’t have a meeting in there. Unless everyone in the room is in that meeting. So you can still use the—
Geoff 1:12
What are the chances that everyone in that room is in a meeting.
Georgie 1:16
Oh, pretty high, actually, like we had a tech showcase the other day. So that made sense for everybody to attend, because it’s kind of open, open invite people in tech sharing what they’re working on. And things like the tech technology meeting. So good to get some, keep up to date on stuff. But I guess like people in finance are not always going to be showing up to those things. But we can people people jump out and use the other meeting rooms, they book another meeting room or they’ll just work in the common areas. So yeah, but I’m getting back into the swing of things. After holidays. Ugh it’s so hard.
Geoff 1:54
Yeah. There’s no monitors or anything, which is a bit of a bummer, right?
Georgie 2:00
Yeah.
Geoff 2:01
Are you accustomed to a certain level of work—
Georgie 2:05
Productivity?
Geoff 2:06
Productivity levels.
Georgie 2:08
I feel like when I go to the WeWork, and—I usually organise to have people I will be working with coming in as well. So we all just ended up talking and working like collaborating.
Geoff 2:21
You got to say collaborating otherwise, it’s just talking,
Georgie 2:24
Chatting, talking shit, like this podcast.
Geoff 2:28
I mean, when I go to office, it’s it’s not to do work. If there if there was like an office with lots of people, like every time we go down to Melbourne I, It’s not it’s not to do any work in the office, it’s just talking to people. It’s just a bunch of distractions.
Georgie 2:44
Yeah.
Geoff 2:45
Yeah. The, Zoom has famously reported that they’re going they’re going to have all their, like—
Georgie 2:54
Oh, employees—
Geoff 2:55
To work in an office.
Georgie 2:57
That’s so funny.
Geoff 2:58
It’s it’s, it’s I think it’s ironic, you know. Like just—
Georgie 3:02
Yeah. Like the company that makes the meeting software...
Geoff 3:07
Yeah, that, that enabled, that earns money. Like the whole reason why they like are so popular now is because of working from home. The bread and butter.
Georgie 3:20
Yeah. And now they’re saying you, the employees have to come in and—not work from home.
Geoff 3:26
Zoom, return to office. Yeah, they they think people think that it’s over, like the whole work from home hybrid thing is over. Everyone’s asking all the companies are asking employees to return to the office.
Georgie 3:44
What’s your company’s actual policy? Is that hybrid, is it?
Geoff 3:49
Well, technically, I don’t have an office here. So they’re, they substitute, not substitute, subsidise all of our like work from home stuff.
Georgie 3:58
So you’re considered a remote worker?
Geoff 4:01
Yeah. I’m considered remote. And it’s in my contract, which is something that’s really contentious, as well as sort of like you get some of these people are contracted as remote, but then they all they all of a sudden get this mandate to come back to the office. Which makes things a bit awkward, I suppose.
Georgie 4:17
Do you ever wonder why—this is so off topic. Why is it called a mandate? A man?
Geoff 4:24
Because you’re having a date with a man.
Georgie 4:26
(laughs) It’s so not inclusive.
Geoff 4:30
It’s the man that’s giving you the date. Which you need to do. You know what we could probably find out, what’s mandate? An official order? Yep.
Georgie 4:42
Origin? Of the word?
Geoff 4:45
Origin... mandate.
Georgie 4:48
I, look, I don’t actually think that it is the, what’s the word, compound, I don’t think it’s the compound word that we think it is. It’s just funny.
Geoff 4:55
It’s “manus” and “dare” from Latin which is “hand” and “give” and “mandare”. And then “mon datum” was “something commanded” and then mandate, which is early 16th century. And it’s combined with a French word “mandat”. Where does the word mandate come from? A charge, order, commission, this is interesting because the the original compact is “manus” and “dare” which is “hand” and then “give”. So it sounds very giving, like it’s very... (laughs)
Georgie 5:32
It’s giving...
Geoff 5:33
It’s—
Georgie 5:34
Authority.
Geoff 5:36
It sounds like, you know, giving to the poor. You’re like, ah, yes, here here. I have mandated you have this bread. I don’t know why bread is the first thing I thought when you’re giving to the poor?
Georgie 5:50
I don’t know. I thought it was like a religious... It sounded like a religious reference.
Geoff 5:57
Oh, yeah, true.
Georgie 5:57
Like bread and...
Geoff 5:58
Oh yeah true. Yeah, bread and wine.
Georgie 5:59
Or body and, body and blood.
Geoff 6:01
Body and blood type stuff. I remember having a conversation about like, giving to, giving to the poor that like the homeless that just kind of sit on the streets.
Georgie 6:14
Yeah.
Geoff 6:14
With a colleague. And they, they were of the opinion, and I think I share it, is sort of like, I’d be happy to, I’d be happy to like, purchase something for them if like if it just purchased something for them. Giving them cash is seems to like to blank cheque-y. Like, they could do things that are not... you know.
Georgie 6:36
Yeah.
Geoff 6:36
Helpful to them.
Georgie 6:36
It’s quite interesting actually. Like, because I think some of them want money. And then they’ll just go and buy something but—
Geoff 6:42
Like smokes. Like...
Georgie 6:43
If they have an addiction or something like concern, that’s bad for their health. It’s not great. But I’ve heard the discourse, I guess that homeless people will likely also not have food, like it’s important. Like if they were really homeless, then what they really need is like food and drink.
Geoff 7:01
Yeah.
Georgie 7:02
And yeah like, there’s this homeless person in my area. And yeah, I’ve thought about okay, maybe I should actually buy this person, like food and give it to them, but I haven’t yet because they’re in a really public place. And I’m, I don’t know, I feel like, I want to approach them, but I’m not quite sure how.
Geoff 7:24
Yeah.
Georgie 7:25
It’s like, this isn’t my heart, but I’ve never done this before.
Geoff 7:27
Do you want a, do you want a sandwich? Do you want a sandwich dude? And it’s like, no? Well, how about a drink? No? Okay. I’ll just walk away.
Georgie 7:35
It’s sort of like, because I’d rather just be able to give the thing and make the gesture and not make it awkward or like pressure that I’m like, hey, I want to buy you something now you must choose.
Geoff 7:46
Yeah. Here’s a menu, I’ll come back to you in five minutes.
Georgie 7:50
Then it’s like, in my mind, I’m like, okay, what so the sort of scenarios have played out in my mind is there’s like a, like, a, a coffee shop nearby. I’m like, should I get this person a hot chocolate, especially if it’s like, a cold, windy day. That makes sense.
Geoff 8:02
Yeah.
Georgie 8:03
And there’s like a noodle place nearby. I’m like, should I get them something from there? And be like, this is like, sort of making a nice gesture and say, This is my favourite noodle dish from this place. Like and, you know, thought he might want some food. Because I just feel like a dick going into the supermarket and just getting like, a salad or something that just doesn’t feel like it’s going to feed them I guess. I don’t know.
Geoff 8:26
Yeah, it’s really a conflict. I think the only time that I’ve ever really thought about seriously getting something was that, I think it was during COVID, this person said that they needed some money to get back to Brisbane, like, because of all the lock downs and all of the, like, I think I also heard, I think it was a comedian, that said, you know, people who are homeless have just got just got all of the bad events happening all at one go.
Georgie 8:53
Yeah.
Geoff 8:53
That like, that like made them homeless that from no fault of their own sometimes.
Georgie 8:58
Yeah. It’s never, it’s usually never their their fault.
Geoff 9:01
Yeah. So in this case, I think it was truly like the sign of the times this person just ran out of money almost on like a holiday or something in Sydney and just like got trapped.
Georgie 9:13
Yeah.
Geoff 9:14
So I was like, thinking, Alright, how do I how do I get this person a ticket to to Brisbane, could I get this person a ticket to Brisbane, without necessarily having to, without like giving them the cash? Right?
Georgie 9:27
Yeah, like get them the ticket? Because that’s—
Geoff 9:29
Yeah, get them the ticket.
Georgie 9:29
They want to get to—yeah.
Geoff 9:31
Yeah. So I’m like going through my mind, I’m like, plane ticket. Oh, wait, you have to put a name on a plane ticket and you have to get like all this other random details and stuff. I didn’t think about the whole bus thing, but I’ve never bought a bus ticket from here to—
Georgie 9:44
Could you get a train?
Geoff 9:46
Train. Can you get a train from here to Brisbane?
Georgie 9:48
Like, you can definitely get to Canberra for example.
Geoff 9:51
Yeah, Sydney, to Brisbane transport. In any case, so I thought about all this random stuff. And I was thinking like, okay, how do I, is it expensive? I don’t mind paying for a flight. Like, it’s not that bad sometimes for a flight to Brisbane, but it’s apparently $700 for a bus to get there. So I was just like, doing all the math. And then, and then I was like, alright, if they’re still here in like three days or four days, maybe, maybe I’ll figured out something like a bus ticket. I’ll have a chat with them, but they disappeared somewhere. So I’m like, okay, I guess they either moved on to a more lucrative location, or um, or they made their way back?
Georgie 10:39
Yeah, like, I think the reason we think about these things is because we don’t really carry cash on us anymore. If I had to, like spare change, I would, I would just like, I would probably just be go, yeah okay, I don’t need this this person can do with it, but.
Geoff 10:52
I don’t throw money at people anyways. In any case, there’s also I don’t know if you heard of, like millionaire hobos?
Georgie 11:04
Nope.
Geoff 11:04
Like, I think there’s a YouTube video for it. But essentially, they’re full time, full time, hobos, like that’s their job is to just beg on the street for money, despite actually—
Georgie 11:15
Are they homeless though?
Geoff 11:16
That’s their job. No, they’re not homeless, but their job is to actually beg for money. This is a bit controversial.
Georgie 11:22
That’s so, yeah. Another controversial thing is like when it comes to like helping out the homeless, there is this person on, I think, both Tiktok and Instagram, reluctant to share the name at the moment, because I’m going to give them a big diss. But I feel like their random acts of kindness and the things that they film and post seem a little bit staged to me. This person will do things like get like literally buy an entire blanket for homeless person in the packaging and everything, film the whole interaction, though, yeah, they’ll do something for not just homeless people, but strangers and like they’ll, I don’t think they pay for their meal. But they will somehow make their day by buying something by saying, hey, I’ve picked you today, like—oh, no, it was the, they do the thing where they pretend that they need help. They say, “I forgot my wallet. I left my wallet at home”. They’re in like a supermarket. And they said, “I just really need to get my baby some nappies. And I’m so sorry, I forgot my wallet at home, would you be able to help?” And the person’s like, “oh, yeah, sure”. And then it’s a social experiment. And they say, okay, because you agreed to help. We’re gonna buy everything, like all of your shopping.
Geoff 12:36
Oh.
Georgie 12:37
Yeah. And just the whole thing, I’m like, surely someone’s picked up on that this is staged. But I think the thing that just bothers me is the, yeah. The g—I just said the gender of the person, almost said the gender of the person. No, but, anyway, doesn’t really matter. But the person would either pretend to maybe have a broken leg or something like that.
Geoff 12:59
Oh.
Georgie 12:59
And the thing about it—
Geoff 12:59
Just testing people.
Georgie 13:00
Just rubs me the wrong way.
Geoff 13:00
Testing people’s kindness.
Georgie 13:03
Yeah.
Geoff 13:05
Well, like this is actually the controversy that Mr. Beast is kind of in the moment where—
Georgie 13:12
I don’t know about it.
Geoff 13:13
So Mr. Beast’s very first, like big, like video that they took off was actually him giving this homeless person like a ton of cash. I think Mr. Beast first big video. Any case, he gives the homeless person—yeah, went viral. Oh, he counted to 100,000. And you can see he gave he gave this homeless person some money. And it’s the, basically all his video or a lot of his videos are like, okay, he’s grabbed a bunch of people and he’s told them like, I will, I will pay for everything you could fit in this circle. So he draws a circle on the on the floor—
Georgie 14:00
Oh this kind of stuff.
Geoff 14:01
Of a shopping centre and everyone, like this person puts all the stuff there and he pays for it. And then he gets a little bit more extreme and he’s got a whole philanthropy like vid like channel where he like gives 1000 kids like the this mildly expensive hearing surgery that will correct deafness right?
Georgie 14:33
Yep.
Geoff 14:33
He films all of it obviously. And people are like, thinking exactly that. The idea that he has to film it, like all of his all of his good deeds are filmed, put on YouTube, billions of views, etc, etc. And they think that he’s just using, you know, like the differently abled for, for money.
Georgie 14:58
Yeah.
Geoff 15:00
And you could say, well, actually, if he didn’t do the video, then he wouldn’t have the money to then do more good things. So it’s like a it’s yeah, it’s very divided kind of opinion on—
Georgie 15:16
I feel like there’s a lot to unpack there because especially like, disabled people now we hear a lot more disabled people’s voices and they’re like, we don’t want to be pitied. They don’t want to be pitied or like, be like, what they dub a inspiration porn, where something they do that, like an ordinary, like, able bodied person would do, that a disabled person doesn’t. It’s like, “oh my god, it’s so inspirational, I can’t b—like, wow”.
Geoff 15:44
Yeah.
Georgie 15:45
And suddenly, it’s like, amazing. And it’s like, no disabled people do great, like cool things all the time. Like you just, I don’t know. Yeah.
Geoff 15:56
Yeah, it’s sort of—
Georgie 15:57
Is his stuff just all like this sort of showy, look at this good thing I did, because I don’t actually I’ve never watched any of his content, I’m not actually familiar with him.
Geoff 16:08
Yeah, I mean, like, a lot of his stuff is like pretty altruistic. He’ll, like I said, he’ll say, to tell, he’ll tell a bunch of people that they can, I’ll pay for all your groceries or he’ll go to a food food bank, or he, he, he got a couple people from a food bank to do the whole thing in the circle, thing in the square where they grabbed a bunch of food and put it in the square and then everything ge’ll pay for to towards the food bank. Right. But does he need to make it a game? Like—
Georgie 16:44
Yeah.
Geoff 16:45
He can just give the money silently.
Georgie 16:48
Yeah, yeah. So this person I’m talking about does a similar thing where they say hey, if you sing the next lyric, or complete the lyric of song, then I’ll give you like five, insert currency here because I don’t want to reveal where this person’s from either. So I’ll give you 5.
Geoff 17:07
Dolleridoos.
Georgie 17:08
Bucks? Whatever. Yeah, so I’m like, Ah, yeah, it makes it fun because you the, he also—yeah I’ve said “he”, it’s a dude. He also shows when someone gets the lyrics wrong and they’re like, who the heck is this mofo? So it’s kind of entertainment as well. But yeah, fundamentally, his content is around like doing nice things to people. And I’m like, okay, like, I don’t know—like imagine if this happened to you, you were just sitting in a cafeteria someone was doing these random acts of kindness but they had a full, like someone was filming the whole thing. I’d definitely be odd about it.
Geoff 17:41
Yeah, I’d feel generally uncomfortable. I’ll just like move away from any camera crew, any, anything.
Georgie 17:49
Just call them out on it. I dunno, be like, are you doing this for the TikToks? The TikToks?
Geoff 17:53
The TikTok.
Georgie 17:55
Doing this for the views because—
Geoff 17:57
The views. Yeah, well, Mr. Beast is also, some people say they’ve kind of ruin, he’s ruined YouTube because of the scale the how big he did, he’s done things have you watched Good Games at least?
Georgie 18:13
No I still have haven’t.
Geoff 18:15
OK. Well, he recreates good games, he does really big like money type—
Georgie 18:21
Extravagant?
Geoff 18:21
Production, very extravagant, he bought an island, and then he made—
Georgie 18:25
I’m done. Nope. You buy an island, you are dead to me.
Geoff 18:28
Well, he’s, it was a game, it was a game. The person to survive on this island gets the island or like he has a pile of cash and the first person to, the last person to like stop touching the cash gets the cash, right? Cars and stuff like that. So but the thing is, he puts his friends in there as well sometimes like he’ll put his friends up against quote unquote randoms, I don’t know where he finds these people and why they get chosen to win all this stuff. But—
Georgie 19:05
So basically it—
Geoff 19:06
Just FYI to anybody getting an island, it’s very expensive to keep an island so it actually, they got rid of it. Like even if they even because they want it. It was a big burden to win.
Georgie 19:16
Hashtag Fyre festival.
Geoff 19:18
Ah. Brutal.
Georgie 19:21
But now I wonder, okay, so you’re obviously more familiar with Mr. Beast than I am but what’s his personality? Like? Is he a humble dude or does he, does the entire thing seemed like an entire production all the time?
Geoff 19:36
Err. Everything seems very production. He’s generally humble about it, I suppose. Like sometimes he’ll break his own rules, to, like he’ll give them more than than he will he planned to, or he expands the circle because he wants to, you know, he’s like, oh, look—
Georgie 19:58
Okay.
Geoff 19:58
Trolley is out of the circle but I’ll just draw a little line around it.
Georgie 20:02
On a slight tangent, you know, Oprah, yeah.
Geoff 20:05
Oh true. Oprah.
Georgie 20:06
Okay. So, so everyone knows Oprah because she’s generous. Almost overgenerous.
Geoff 20:12
Yeah.
Georgie 20:12
But, but I think sometimes her behavior has been criticised, I think there was a video of her and The Rock, talking about donating to, I can’t remember the cause, unfortunately. But it was for a serious cause, like I think it might have been to do with children. And people were criticising them on TikTok, because they said, oh, like donate what you can and whatever. And they had, obviously been able to donate millions of dollars. And it just felt like in such a, like, a weird scenario of rich people telling you to donate and it’s like...
Geoff 20:48
To be fair though, I don’t expect people who have money to donate money. It’s, it’s kind of, I know, a lot of people—
Georgie 20:55
It depends on the person type of thing?
Geoff 20:57
Well, I know a lot of people who just assume that just because someone has like millions and millions of dollars that they can af—they can just simply afford to take a million of those dollars and give it and just give it to something. And—
Georgie 21:09
They can afford but it’s like, is it in their conscience, in their heart, and no, you know.
Geoff 21:13
Sure. Yeah. They can, they can afford but it’s sort of like I didn’t do everything that I can afford to do. Like, I have arguably much less than millions of dollars, but I don’t go around even purchasing, you know, stuff that’s been, that’s, that’s I could I could technically afford but—
Georgie 21:33
Designer necklaces and stuff.
Geoff 21:36
Yeah, like, yeah. And grills.
Georgie 21:39
Yeah I was thinking of, yeah, I was like, what are they called, those things on your teeth? That are shiny? I was almost gonna say, root canal.
Geoff 21:47
Yeah, yeah, root. Man, I’m gonna get me some root canal. So it’s, uh, yeah, I could, I could, I could have, I could afford every subscription under the sun. But do I want to do that? No, but it’s, so yeah, I guess to your point. It’s like it’s, is it within their personality or heart, etc, to donate? But yeah, I think a lot of people were like black and white. They got money. So why don’t they just like give it all up for other people, well it’s like, you don’t get rich by giving away your money.
Georgie 22:23
Mhmm.
Geoff 22:24
But yeah, it seems pretty disingenuous if if the if the whole point is like, to just convince a bunch of people to give money without prefacing that you’re also giving something, right. I think a lot of
Georgie 22:40
Oh, yeah. Like, if you’re going to advertise something like that, I would assume, or it would make sense if you had also donated to the cause.
Geoff 22:48
Yeah. At least say, not say how much maybe. It’s kinda like those matching. Like, I’ll match every dollar that—
Georgie 22:57
Yeah, how does that work? Again?
Geoff 22:59
I have no idea, well it’s like if, if you are able to convince 50, 50 people to donate $50 I’ll match.
Georgie 23:08
Also.
Geoff 23:09
I’ll also donate the exact same amount that you manage to convince people to donate.
Georgie 23:15
But isn’t that just like accountability or sort of like—
Geoff 23:18
It’s like double or nothing. (laughs) But yeah, I don’t know. It’s it’s sometimes a bit, they get this they get this sometimes on Shark Tank where—
Georgie 23:32
(laughs) I was talking to my parents and Nick about this like, last night because my mum was talking about how some companies end up getting, like they fail on Shark Tank but then Amazon does, like buys them or something.
Geoff 23:49
Like Amazon philanthropy. No, Shark Tank, so if people don’t know what Shark Tank, is they have—
Georgie 23:56
I hate it by the way. I don’t know. I don’t know if you gathered that about me or like you’re not surprised. I fucking hate that. (snorts)
Geoff 24:04
Well, we can dive into why you hate it in a second. But—
Georgie 24:07
Ooh. OK.
Geoff 24:07
But there’s five, there’s five people. Usually they’re in the hundreds of millions net worth. And they basically have a bunch of entrepreneurs audition, and then come on to this show to pitch to these 5, hundred millionaires. And the aim of the show is to get an investment from one of these quote unquote sharks they call them and it’s usually, it’s usually more than just like a money investment. Usually they put like they come in and they they help, they help scale or they mentor in their, special, in their in their expertise and stuff like that. So you get some really strange contraptions like I think one of the biggest successful was Scrub Daddy. I don’t know if anyone heard of it. But essentially, it’s a—
Georgie 24:56
Is it like a sponge?
Geoff 24:57
Scrub with a smiley face on it.
Georgie 24:59
Mate. It’s, yeah.
Geoff 25:01
You know it right? Scrub Daddy.
Georgie 25:03
I know it, I’ve seen it, I think it was at one of the Airbnbs we were in recently.
Geoff 25:08
Yeah, yes, I honestly can’t remember why Scrub Daddy—oh, changes texture based on the water temperature. That’s what I can remember. So it’s firm and cold water and warm—and, and soft in warm water for light cleaning. So this came up on the Shark Tank. And they got to deal with the the owner of QVC which if you’re not in America is basically a daytime shopping channel. Like we have in Australia. They just showcase a bunch of “hey wow, if you buy now—”
Georgie 25:42
Infomerical!
Geoff 25:42
“70.99, yeah, it’ll be half price, with oh, 50 million attachments”. Um.
Georgie 25:48
And then 10 minutes later, they’re like “call now!”
Geoff 25:51
“Call now!”
Georgie 25:51
“Call in the next 60 seconds, and you can get an additional one. Free!”
Geoff 25:56
“Free! Delivered straight to your door”. So yeah, this Scrub Daddy, right? Like they came on the show. They got a deal with one of the, one of the sharks and then they went on to sell hundreds and millions and was really successful. And that’s the idea. Just a scrub. They came up with a nice product and they got a big, big investment. Anyway, so why do you hate this show? (laughs)
Georgie 26:24
(laughs) Because I love to hate. I don’t know, I think I watched like, I watched it a little bit. And sometimes I just feel like some of the ideas are so... I don’t know. They’re not very impressive.
Geoff 26:36
No. They’re like, recently it’s all been clothes, spreads—like bread, like things you spread on bread. Generally, like health foods. And yeah, yeah, it’s really hit and miss.
Georgie 26:56
Wellness, kind of weird shit.
Geoff 26:58
Wellness, weird stuff. People who are trying to app things that really shouldn’t be apped.
Georgie 27:04
Oh, my god. Yeah, yeah, I think that’s probably what I noticed, like a while ago is that seemed like a massive focus of like, “Oh, we got this digital way of doing this”. I’m like, ugh. I don’t know. And I think, I guess the sharks, the judges, they’re meant to be quite strict. Like they’re very particular.
Geoff 27:22
Yeah.
Georgie 27:22
But I also found that maybe surprising what some of them were like, “oh, yeah, I’d back that” or whatever.
Geoff 27:28
Oh.
Georgie 27:28
Like it’s just weird.
Geoff 27:30
That’s why I brought this up in the first place.
Georgie 27:31
Oh.
Geoff 27:32
Sometimes. Sometimes—
Georgie 27:33
Just like, it’s b—yeah go on.
Geoff 27:35
They, they they have admitted, like, at least one of them has admitted that they they invested in a company because it was like the right thing to do, not necessarily—
Georgie 27:46
Not because they gave a shit?
Geoff 27:46
...the most financially, not necessarily the finan—the best financially thing, financial thing to do. But because they saw like it’s very philanthropic or very good cause that they’re, that they’re trying to do, and they decided to invest in it, despite it not being like a great business plan.
Georgie 28:10
That’s very interesting.
Geoff 28:11
Yeah.
Georgie 28:13
So they liked the vision, almost more than what’s been executed so far.
Geoff 28:18
Oh man, they’re very hit and miss on that type of stuff as well, where someone comes up with like a novel idea. And they go, yeah, okay, I’ll either buy it from you, like buy the entire company, or yes, because of the vision, etc. But it’s just generally like, if there’s a good cause, what’s like a really one, a good one. Someone came up with this business of I think it’s some kind of wool or some kind of thread that is that is being produced out of like, Uganda or something like that. So they set up, they set up, not shop, not factory, but essentially, they’ve hired a lot of people from Uganda to produce this thing that naturally comes from Uganda that—maybe it was coffee or something like that, that. Generally, other people just exploit them for. Like they gave them two cents per for per thou—like kilo—
Georgie 29:14
So this was like ethical, this was quite—yeah.
Geoff 29:16
Yeah. So they set up everything there. And they’re giving opportunities over there. And then they’re bringing the product to sell at a premium in America or something like that. So maybe their numbers aren’t great. And maybe they’re not a company that you can scale to hundreds of millions or a billion dollars, but—
Georgie 29:35
But they’re doing the right thing.
Geoff 29:37
They’re doing the right thing, essentially. I’m not entirely sure if they actually backed something like that, but that’s the vibe sometimes. Yeah. So they’re, they’re sometimes philanthropic about it. So I’ve got a list some stuff that’s been backed recently.
Georgie 29:55
Yeah.
Geoff 29:55
This is aqua boxing gloves. They’re boxing gloves that you put water in them and basically increases the weight and travel friendly boxing training so you don’t have to have a sandbag with you all the time to train. Just simulates the fact that the weight—
Georgie 30:13
Yeah. It increases the resistance or whatever.
Geoff 30:14
Yeah.
Georgie 30:15
That’s right. Yeah.
Geoff 30:16
Which is really cool. Like you see here the transformation factory sea mss, I don’t entirely know what that is.
Georgie 30:24
Is that like, edible? It’s something edible? Is it like seaweed but like, you can eat it? Oh, does it have good nutrients and shit. Like one of those wellness things that you were talking about?
Geoff 30:35
Oh. Blah, blah, blah, sea moss has been used for thousands of years. You see this? They do this a lot. Actually. They like someone comes up—
Georgie 30:42
They love this shit?
Geoff 30:43
Well, people love to bring this shit. They find, they find ooh, like this bean, or this plant. Like it’s existed for thousands of years. In my culture, we use it for everything. So I’ve decided to bottle it and sell it.
Georgie 31:02
Just throwing this out there. But a lot of that shit is like, actually, from people of colours’ countries and white people go yeah, let’s fucking sell it in a jar. And it’s like.
Geoff 31:13
Yeah.
Georgie 31:15
Um, yeah.
Geoff 31:16
But generally, it’s the people from that country who realized that they’re being taken advantage of and they bottle it and they sell it themselves now.
Georgie 31:24
Yeah, like love that.
Geoff 31:25
Yeah.
Georgie 31:26
Take ownership!
Geoff 31:28
But yeah, sometimes is this like, acai, like the super fruits, right? Whatever you call them.
Georgie 31:36
The, the, yeah. It’s just that vibe. (laughs)
Geoff 31:39
Like, what is a super fruit? And like, why has someone decided that this is a super fruit?
Georgie 31:46
I don’t actually know. But when there is an acai bowl, I just liked the taste. And I’m like, it’s like a fruit. I don’t know. If it’s like a fucking super fruit. I don’t care. It’s you know, the healthier than ordering the chicken or whatever.
Geoff 31:57
What the, regular regular stuff like kiwis and blueberries and pineapple.
Georgie 32:04
Every fruit just got upgraded. To, and, and we’re waiting for new fruits to be discovered. And they’ll just be like, demote, like, they’ll just be at the bottom of the barrel and they gotta becomes super fruits.
Geoff 32:17
Yeah. Oh, there’s see, look this light. I cannot believe this got backed. Like this got invested in, but it’s a kawaii lighting ring, which is basically the shape of a heart instead of a round circle.
Georgie 32:29
And that’s it.
Geoff 32:30
You get hearts in your eyes instead.
Georgie 32:33
What! No, oh, that’s so... terrible.
Geoff 32:38
Yeah.
Georgie 32:39
Yeah.
Geoff 32:40
This one’s good. Handy pan. It’s got like a lip with a grate on it. So you can actually pour oil out of the—
Georgie 32:48
You drain it without the food falling out.
Geoff 32:51
Yeah, that’s it. So stuff’s handy sometimes. Browndages, skin toned bandages?
Georgie 32:59
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. But like, I think I think some of them exist, like some of the bigger companies have made bandages of different skin tones.
Geoff 33:06
That one’s hard. I must say that this is kind of like my problem with emojis though. Emojis all used to be yellow. And then they introduced skin tones.
Georgie 33:16
Yeah. And you’re just like, is it better or worse? Because it may not exact to every single person’s skin.
Geoff 33:24
So now we’ve like got exclus, exclusionary skintone variance.
Georgie 33:29
I would say, I would say maybe not exclusionary, but now you have set up the expectation that there’s going to be max customisation, you like, they, we have an expectation now that there’s going to be more there’s going to be like, more inclusion.
Geoff 33:44
Yeah.
Georgie 33:44
And we’re waiting. Some people are waiting.
Geoff 33:47
Yeah, I honestly couldn’t pick a thumbs up skin tone for a long time because they didn’t have—
Georgie 33:53
You between like two of them?
Geoff 33:55
Or, it was yeah, it was either too bright or a little too dark.
Georgie 33:58
Too light or too, yeah I’ve got that problem. And then it comes summer when I’m tan. I’m like, okay, now I’m gonna use the darker one. (laughs)
Geoff 34:04
(laughs) Yeah, so I just stuck with the yellow one. And I was like—
Georgie 34:09
That’s fair enough.
Geoff 34:09
What’s the, what’s the problem with having just yellow? Um.
Georgie 34:14
That cookie shot glass, which is like a cookie with like, I’m gonna describe it. It’s like a cookie with chocolate coating inside and you could put liquid inside. I actually had that at a cafe. Like, a couple months ago. They had like a special cookie.
Geoff 34:27
Is it?
Georgie 34:27
I think they made it themselves though. I don’t think they just bought them. So how do you—
Geoff 34:33
It seems really—
Georgie 34:33
...know the original creator of this shit?
Geoff 34:35
Is this really useful though. Like you you drink it and then you eat it?
Georgie 34:39
Oh, yeah. so it’s funny.
Geoff 34:39
You obviously can’t eat it while you drink it.
Georgie 34:41
So they served in like, they serve coffee in it, like a shot of coffee. But you have to—and then they served it with like a sort of larger clay mug. So you’re supposed to eat it over the mug because I mean, as you sip it, it might melt or crumble a little bit.
Geoff 34:59
Yeah.
Georgie 34:59
So, yeah. And Nick was like taking photos of his cos it was all cute and shit. And it started to like kind of seep out. And like, while he was taking the photos.
Geoff 35:11
It was taking the piss. Yeah, this is the same thing. I have a problem with bread bowls, like when you have a—
Georgie 35:18
What’s bread bowls?
Geoff 35:19
...a clam chowder in a bread bowl.
Georgie 35:23
Oh like bowl, like with the—yeah—
Geoff 35:25
In bread.
Georgie 35:25
And sometimes people do spaghetti in here too, as well.
Geoff 35:28
Oh yeah.
Georgie 35:29
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Geoff 35:31
Like, I want to eat the bowl. Like I love, I like bread more than the thing that’s inside it. So you kind of do with ice cream, I guess. Like if you eat the cone—
Georgie 35:42
Okay, I don’t do cone.
Geoff 35:44
...ice cream.
Georgie 35:44
Yeah, do cup.
Geoff 35:46
I always cone. And—
Georgie 35:48
Because I don’t like the experience of like, yeah as it melts and it’s like, ahh, I just don’t, fuss. I just use a cup. Get a cup.
Geoff 35:55
Yeah, I mean, like, I, yeah, we usually have ice cream off the dinner and I’m not entirely sure why I keep eating a cone afterwards because I get super full. Like, I’m full. And then I continue to eat another—
Georgie 36:06
Because it’s dessert.
Geoff 36:09
It’s great.
Georgie 36:11
You know, I, you know meat pies.
Geoff 36:12
Yeah.
Georgie 36:13
I used to get the oh, my mum used to get this when I was growing up. She bought just like the supermarket meat pies. I think they were the Herbert Adams—
Geoff 36:20
Oh the Mrs Macs? Oh no.
Georgie 36:22
Nope. I think they were Herbert Adams but they were like rectangular. Kinda small like party pies or whatever. And I don’t know what it was about this brand and whatever processed bullshit they put into these meat pies. But I would love to peel the top of the meat pie and eat all the meat inside and then enjoy the pastry afterwards because it’s just like, ah yeah, better than eating—
Geoff 36:43
That’s regular.
Georgie 36:43
...it normally.
Geoff 36:44
That’s normal.
Georgie 36:45
Is it?
Geoff 36:46
That‘s a normal way to eat the pie.
Georgie 36:47
No. Oh, wow.
Geoff 36:49
It isn’t, but it is for me and my family as well.
Georgie 36:52
Oh good. Very nostalgic then.
Geoff 36:54
My, my partner was a bit shocked when I first did it. They were like, very confused as to why I was taking the top off and eating all the inside.
Georgie 37:04
(laughs) That sounded gross Geoff, sounded dirty.
Geoff 37:07
Take the top off.
Georgie 37:08
Take the top off and eat the inside.
Geoff 37:09
Eat all the insides. How’s that? How’s that dirty when you’re eating the insides?
Georgie 37:13
(laughs) But you took the top off?
Geoff 37:18
Yeah, you just take the top off and eat the inside.
Georgie 37:20
Wait, can I ask you, do you, do you put sauce on your pies?
Geoff 37:23
No, I don’t put sauce on my pies.
Georgie 37:25
What is your, what are your thoughts?
Geoff 37:27
I don’t put sauce on anything really?
Georgie 37:30
Okay. Because I was like, that’s weird. When I went to like a party when I was in primary school. I was like, why are they eating meat pies with tomato sauce? I didn’t understand it. I didn’t do that. Like what’s wrong with it on its own? And I’m like, isn’t that just strange to have some kind of like slightly sour sauce?
Geoff 37:50
Yeah.
Georgie 37:51
With a pie that’s already got flavour. I don’t know.
Geoff 37:53
That’s why you eat with ketchup and not tomato sauce. But yeah.
Georgie 37:59
But even then, I don’t know. I do not put sauce on pies like nope, 100% no. Will never. Like, not my, not my thing.
Geoff 38:08
Um, the next one, this was kind of cool. There’s this dog lure toy. Basically, you set up this like—
Georgie 38:16
Contraption.
Geoff 38:17
Contraption, like three of them or four of them, you can really set up as many as you want. And they’ve got little motors inside them that pull a string and then the string has a little bit of a fluffy toy on it. So if you were to look—
Georgie 38:31
So it’s like you’re too fucking lazy to do this yourself.
Geoff 38:33
Yeah you’re just too lazy.
Georgie 38:35
With your dog.
Geoff 38:37
So you have this little thing like fly around in a perimeter and the dog chases it.
Georgie 38:42
Yeah. And it does all for you. And you’re just like cool, I get to sit here with my cup of coffee.
Geoff 38:47
Exactly.
Georgie 38:48
And post videos of my dog on Instagram.
Geoff 38:52
Yeah.
Georgie 38:53
I’m interested in that seaweed bacon. The seaweed based bacon.
Geoff 38:57
Seaweed based bacon.
Georgie 38:58
So I’m guessing it’s obviously good for people who don’t eat meat but I’m not a big fan of like bacon.
Geoff 39:04
Yeah.
Georgie 39:04
In general. Like I don’t like the taste.
Geoff 39:06
I don’t like bacon either.
Georgie 39:07
But I love seaweed so I would find this interesting.
Geoff 39:10
I think this is this is to make it taste like bacon. Yeah, highly realistic plant based bacon. Tastes, smells like bacon. So if you don’t like the taste of bacon then don’t, then you don’t get to eat this. You shouldn’t eat this probably.
Georgie 39:24
They have facon, like they have, that’s what they call it. They already have this product.
Geoff 39:29
Yeah.
Georgie 39:29
This one must be just like different from what is out there—
Geoff 39:32
Cheaper, I don’t know.
Georgie 39:33
Well, it probably just isn’t... I think most meat, mock meat is made with like soy proteins and stuff. So this is probably just like oh someone’s made it with seaweed.
Geoff 39:45
Ethically crafted rings.
Georgie 39:48
Okay.
Geoff 39:49
For what, this, this—
Georgie 39:51
Oh my god a pillow fort?
Geoff 39:53
This is really a genius. It’s just pillow full. It’s just pillows with magnets on them. So you just attach them to each other, you can make your fort.
Georgie 40:03
Wow.
Geoff 40:04
It’s foam, the fabric, magnets. It’s just premium. It’s premium fort building.
Georgie 40:11
Ah, wow.
Geoff 40:12
Thing.
Georgie 40:13
And there’s like preset like ways you can arrange them to have different like, entertainment for your kids and stuff. Or yourself.
Geoff 40:20
Yeah. You just make your couch out of it apparently. And then like and then they can tear it. You could, they can tear down the couch and make a fort, and then put the put the couch back together again.
Georgie 40:28
How good is that? Your kids will not be bored. Like they’d be like, I don’t want to sit on the couch. Let’s make a slide and then they’d be like, I’m bored of the slide. Let’s make a rocket or whatever. Amazing.
Geoff 40:38
Yeah, it’s better than regular pillows because they stick together.
Georgie 40:42
Yeah.
Geoff 40:43
So yeah, there’s a bunch of real random things. Always the skincare, there’s always the—what—
Georgie 40:49
The skincare’s very specific and weird to me, because like there’s so much skincare out there.
Geoff 40:56
Yeah.
Georgie 40:57
And there’s so much to try. Like, I need to know what makes some of these so special. You know.
Geoff 41:02
It’s all about catering usually for minorities.
Georgie 41:06
Yeah, ah OK.
Geoff 41:07
That don’t get the tones from the big the big brands.
Georgie 41:10
That’s more like makeup, though I guess. Rather than skincare.
Geoff 41:14
Yeah, that’s true. Makeup. Shaping swimwear. Here’s the skincare. Bullying at a young age for having bushy eyebrows, so you got, so you made some skincare? Oh it’s a skincare for your eyebrows? I don’t know.
Georgie 41:35
I don’t know. Maybe that’s just the story. That’s what inspired them.
Geoff 41:38
Yeah, it’s all about the story. Oh my god, is that a vacuum broom? Built in vacuum in a broom.
Georgie 41:45
But why? I need to know.
Geoff 41:48
And you s...and you suck it. And you just take the top off.
Georgie 41:53
That‘s so weird, like. But who would drop like half a bowl of Cheerios? I love the, I love the ads?
Geoff 42:00
Yeah, having a bowl of Cheerios.
Georgie 42:02
Like, what would you, hang on wait, what would you use this for? What does it say?
Geoff 42:05
I don’t know. Sweep up dust and dirt, enhance product, blah, blah, blah, initial manufacturing, blah, blah, blah.
Georgie 42:15
Oh. Okay, I get it.
Geoff 42:16
Then the vacuum started.
Georgie 42:17
So you know dust, dust. Like if you try and vacuum dust. It’s kind of tricky. If you try and sweep dust you’re like, well, how do I pick it up off the floor and put it in the bin now?
Geoff 42:26
True. You point a sucker at it.
Georgie 42:28
Yeah.
Geoff 42:29
And you get to go. You know what else you point the sucker at? The end of this episode.
Georgie 42:34
Eeh. Bye!
Geoff 42:37
Yeah, okay. See ya. Bye. New episodes—you know what, you can’t follow us on any social media because we don’t post on social media anymore.
Georgie 42:44
But you can email us!
Geoff 42:45
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Georgie 42:47
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Geoff 42:48
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Georgie 42:48
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Geoff 43:02
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Georgie 43:05
See you next week.
Geoff 43:07
Bye.