Somehow managed to stay on topic for 90% of this episode, as we dive into the good and the bad and the questionable experiences we've had reselling our items on various platforms.
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Somehow managed to stay on topic for 90% of this episode, as we dive into the good and the bad and the questionable experiences we've had reselling our items on various platforms.
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Georgie:
Geoff:
Geoff 0:01
And welcome back to another episode of Toast and Roast. I'm your co host Geoff and as always I'm here with Georgie.
Georgie 0:12
Hello.
Geoff 0:12
Hey Georgie.
Georgie 0:13
Are you recording from the right microphone by the way?
Geoff 0:16
Ah yeah I hope I am. It would be really depressing if I'm not. But you were just wrapping up a parcel?
Georgie 0:24
Yeah so I was, so I've been selling some clothes on eBay and one of the things I was selling which is a dress which I don't really wear anymore – the person who bid on it actually paid for it like as soon as the auction ended, so they paid for it immediately which is nice. So that meant I could
Geoff 0:45
That’s good etiquette.
Georgie 0:45
Address it – yeah which meant I could address it immediately as well because I've actually had a really weird bad run of eBay buyers recently. So I mostly sell clothes on eBay but recently I have
Geoff 0:59
It’s because your wardrobe is overflowing from your non minimalistic ways.
Georgie 1:05
Excuse me. It's already pretty small to begin with like physically in size anyway. Yeah, for the past year or so and basically during this pandemic I've had some really dodgy, well I wouldn’t really say dodgy, but some not very nice buyers who have bid on an item and and then just gone MIA and then I've had to remind them like two days later, hey can you please pay for this so I can send it because like I want to get rid of the thing but I also, like it's just a bit rude so.
Geoff 1:39
Yeah.
Georgie 1:39
It was nice that this person paid immediately because then I could just get rid of the thing. I did, I was trying to sell I think shoes are the worst I was trying to sell a pair
Geoff 1:49
That's interesting why are shoes the worst?
Georgie 1:52
Because, well I have pretty small feet and I think it's just a little bit more difficult to find people who would want to buy the shoe because foot size changes. Well, not changes I guess it differs a lot it's just hard it's harder than just say like you know this is a shirt that's like size small or whatever I guess.
Geoff 2:15
Yeah.
Georgie 2:15
It's less, it can be, it's less lenient? Um what’s the word, room for error.
Geoff 2:23
Less forgiving?
Georgie 2:23
Yeah yeah so I did have this, I was selling this pair of shoes these got, this pair of running shoes which I accidentally, I bought the wrong size and then I wore them a bit and I was like oh shit, I got like half a size down and this is not a good idea. And I was really annoyed at the fact that I had to resell them but I had this one person bid on the shoes and then not pay, and then I sent them a reminder like 48 hours later saying, please pay, obviously I was being very nice right? By the way everybody, I have like 100% seller rating on eBay and this person did not pay.
Geoff 2:56
Please like and subscribe to my eBay store.
Georgie 3:00
No don’t, nah, there's no – I mean the only things I sell on there are usually yeah, clothes and like old tech that I don't want anymore. That kind of thing.
Geoff 3:07
Can you subscribe to people’s eBay stores?
Georgie 3:09
Yeah, you can, you can well I don't have a store per se but you can follow people on eBay. So yeah, so this person didn't pay.
Geoff 3:17
Ah that’s interesting.
Georgie 3:17
And then I yeah, I reminded them, reminded them and then I still, I didn't hear from them at all. And then I just had to cancel the order and then relist the item and then the same bloody person bid on it again. And then I can't remember if it was at that point but I just removed their bid and just blocked them but I was like, you can't do this to me.
Geoff 3:37
Yeah we need to be able to punish these people you know, if they don't pay up, then cancel their credit cards, block their eBay account, lock them out of their PayPal, just completely axe them from the system. Because we have no time. We have no time for people who don't pay when they win auctions. Or it should just auto debit like their PayPal account.
Georgie 4:04
So you can turn on a feature when you list your item, you can say require immediate payment, but I don't think that's for an auction. I think that's when you want to buy the item right now at like a fixed price. And you can like, I guess force the user to pay for it immediately when they are interested in it. They used to have a strict policy like you could open a case when someone had a, when someone didn't pay for something except that process seemed to take a couple of days, it was a bit annoying but then they would have like against their account and be like, this person didn't pay for an item but now that I say don't do that anymore and you can just cancel the order and I'm like, but I want you to get a, I don't know what, a negative rating on your profile whatever.
Geoff 4:46
Yeah I want you, I don’t want to neg you.
Georgie 4:52
So a funny thing happened recently was, Nick was trying to sell his his PS PS4 and I think he had it on, had an auction and I can't remember what he started it out anyway, it's it doesn't really matter. But somebody won. And then I think it ended on a Sunday. And he was hoping to like, the person would pay and then he could send it off, like in the middle of the week. And the person didn't pay after a few days. So he sent a reminder and he just used the template that they give you. Where it says, you know, please pay for the item, blah, blah, blah. And then I think the guy got back to him – assume it was a guy – yeah, I think because of the because of their response and the response was, “Oh sorry bro I can't pay for this anymore. Can you please cancel the order?” I mean, I say bro, I say bro, but it just sounded a bit like it was coming from a guy. Anyway, Nick was a bit annoyed. And I said, you have, you have a couple options here right? Because there are multiple bidders on something like a PlayStation 4. You can actually give a Second Chance Offer to like the second highest bidder.
Geoff 6:01
That's cool, that‘s cool.
Georgie 6:02
Yeah, and it's useful but the funny thing about selling expensive technology like a PlayStation 4 or even a phone or computer you seem to get a lot of dodgy people, like you can, you can see who bids on it.
Geoff 6:16
Oh don't, don't even get me started on dodgy people. Yeah, but continue I’ll tell my story after.
Georgie 6:22
We're going to talk about Gumtree, aren't we? I sense, I sense something. Yeah alright.
Geoff 6:28
You think eBay's dodge town?
Georgie 6:31
I’m ready to talk about Gumtree after this. Yeah. So you can look at who bids but I don't think you can see the actual username, until, until everything ends. I think it's just it's there's asterisks, there's a bit of it's bit like, obscured. But you can see how many stars they have. Or their, yeah, the stars. So the stars, the stars tell you how much positive feedback they've had both as like a seller and a buyer. So you could buy a whole heap of things and not sell anything. And then you can get a lot of stuff. So I think most of my stars have been for me buying early on, rather than me selling. Anyway. It turns out that when you sell well, in my experience, when you sell something quite expensive, you tend to get these people who don't have a lot of stars, and you're like I really hope this person pays up. Because some of them have like zero, which means they've like never bought anything before, something like that. And I find that a bit dodgy.
Geoff 7:28
Yeah...
Georgie 7:28
So Nick didn't want to do that. Because there were a lot of people like who had like low stars, so he ended up relisting the item. And then this time, I think it actually went for a higher price, which I think he was pretty happy with. And then it ended on the Sunday again. And this time the person paid. Like, immediately the person who won paid immediately, which was good. And then I was helping him write the shipping label or whatever, because he was using his own packaging. And then I was like, Hey, can you just like text me the the person's name and address and I'll write it out for you. And then he goes, “Oh, it's going to a girl! That's why she paid straight away.”
Geoff 8:18
Is that a real stereotype?
Georgie 8:20
It is now.
Geoff 8:20
Yeah, it is now. It is now. Anytime I have a friend who sells stuff as well, it seems like that they're always like super on top of it. And yeah, and then whenever I I don't think I've sold many. Oh, I have sold one thing to a girl. And that was my last MacBook. Which was interesting, because I had listed it and they they didn't even, did they negotiate? I can't remember it was very, very little negotiation, or none at all. And they were just like, I'm just gonna pay you the amount that you want and like, Whoa, okay. And then they're like, do you like, do you want cash? And like, yes, this is a MacBook. And it was like two and a half thousand something like that. I'm like, Okay, let's, let's go meet in the city. And they said, yeah, that's fine. We'll meet outside the Apple Store, whatever. And we just walked across the road, the bank and if I realised, yeah, this is a female, but so I think it might be true, because we just walked across the road, went into CommBank, they withdrew two and a half thousand dollars and then just gave it to me. And I was like, What do you need it for? Oh, I just got into a graphic design, like, class or what do you call it? Course?
Georgie 9:46
Like a course or something.
Geoff 9:46
Yeah, the graphic design course. Yeah, they just started their graphic design university course. And then I'm like, cool, here you go. And then just like walked away with a huge wad of cash. And then I just walked, I think I like immediately went into like the NAB next door, and deposited it all. I wasn’t gonna go walk around with two and a half k. My dad, right? That leads me to my dad. He's he was he's astounded every time I say that I don't carry any cash. And I remember when I first moved out, he's like, why don't you carry some cash, I’m like, I don't want to carry any cash. He goes, just carry, you know, $200 just in case. I'm like, just in case of what? What do I need $200 for? Walk around with $200 in my pocket. But I think I think that was probably the most straightforward Gumtree thing. The most dodge Gumtree thing was when I was selling
Georgie 10:43
Can’t wait for this.
Geoff 10:43
My iPhone 7, I think it was ages ago. iPhone 7. And I get the notification, right? And the guy's like, cool. I'll meet you somewhere. Like, okay, in the city after work, so it's kind of dark already. I get to I think we agree Martin Place. So I'm like, standing in the middle of Martin Place. I believe it's where the fountain is.
Georgie 11:11
Ah yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 11:13
Around that and how it's like, okay, dude, where are you? He goes, um um, I don't know. Like, how do you know where you are?
Georgie 11:23
Did he suggest the, did he suggest Martin Place or was it you?
Geoff 11:28
No, I think I suggested it.
Georgie 11:30
Oh okay it’s just. Maybe he wasn't familiar.
Geoff 11:33
Well, yeah. But I mean, like, like, are you at Martin Place? He goes, I think I am. I'm like, Okay. Can you describe your surroundings? And then he's like, uh, uh, yeah, I can't remember what he described. I'm like, I think you are in Martin Place. I have no fucking clue where you are. And then he and then he's like, Oh, dude, I’m at some steps. Could you like meet me at these steps?
Georgie 11:59
Oh my god was he at Town Hall?
Geoff 11:59
These steps. So no, he wasn't at Town Hall. He was he was at Martin Place.
Georgie 12:05
Ah a few blocks away.
Geoff 12:06
A few blocks from where I am.
Georgie 12:07
Yeah
Geoff 12:07
He was just up the road. And it was like on the corner and some steps right? I'm not so sure how I got there without any clear description, but. Oh, he gave me the sign name for the roads and I’m ike, okay, you're at the corner.
Georgie 12:22
Like Elizabeth Street or whatever.
Geoff 12:22
Yeah, and you're just up like, up up the road. So I walked up the road, mind you, it's like, six, six o'clock. 6:30 at this stage. And this guy had an accent I think it was like a French accent. So I was like, Okay, I don't know what I'm getting into. But I walk up the road and I see two guys just sitting on the steps in like, some drab. And I'm like, are they just gonna stab me and take my
Georgie 12:52
Did they look shady?
Geoff 12:53
Like, they they looked so shady, like, so I got to them. And I give, I give them the phone and they give me the cash and I'm standing there counting 10s and 20s and fives. Like I’m pretty sure there was maybe one or two 50s in there. But this is like five, six hundred dollars, in 10s 20s so I'm standing there shaking trying to count this money so I don’t, so I fine, that so I don't get ripped off. And these guys are like like just, I mean, looking at the phone. I don't I don't know if they tried to turn it on or whatever. But yeah, okay, thanks, for this is the amount, you cool with the phone? I was just like backing away and then like, oh yeah, and they asked me where the bus was. Where the nearest bus was, and I’m like shit I need to take the bus too so I'm like that's the nearest bus stop and then I kind of walk the opposite direction even though I needed to go to the exact same bus stop.
Georgie 14:06
That was like they were genuinely lost though.
Geoff 14:06
The further one across... Yeah, I mean they could have been. But you know what, when someone hands you a lot of 10s and 20s in the –
Georgie 14:15
It’s a little bit weird.
Geoff 14:15
In like the five to six hundreds, in the seven hundreds, it's, it's it's drug money, come on let's be real. No one carries around six seven hundred dollars.
Georgie 14:25
Unless they were like...
Geoff 14:26
Of 10s and 20s
Georgie 14:27
Students without a job or something I don't know. I don't want to judge people.
Geoff 14:33
Yeah students without a job? OK then I'll criticise their money spending habits because they shouldn't be spending $700 on a mobile phone if they’re students without a job but the um, the, so I walked the other way I just walked to the next bus stop like before their, before the one that's most convenient to me. It was out outside of Channel Seven I think.
Georgie 14:58
Yeah, oh I know that one.
Geoff 14:59
Yeah. Yeah, so I just walked up the road and I was like whew. I yeah, I mean I feel like, I feel like they could have just like beat me up and took my phone and just ran.
Georgie 15:11
Really wow. So yeah, that was the dodgiest Gumtree experience.
Geoff 15:16
Yeah it was probably the dodgiest thing. I sold my car on Gumtree. This one, I think was either the most well orchestrated scam or the most wholesome purchase. The wholesome buyer I've ever met.
Georgie 15:35
Okay, let's go.
Geoff 15:37
Yeah, so, so, um, I get a buyer and I think I wanted 7000 or whatever, maybe $8,000 for my car. I it was secondhand 2014 and I was selling it. 20 I think it was like four or five years old at that stage. 20 1920 Yeah. 2018 2019. So it's been like, for four or five years, I got it second hand. This, this car rolls up. And this guy comes out. His wife stays in the car for the moment. And he like checks around the car. And he's like, when was the last service? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. And he's like, when did you last change oil? I'm like, I'm not a car guy. I don't I don't know. Because when did you last change the brake pads, I’m like I told you I have no fucking clue about any of this and because what about the fluid and like, what fluid you're talking about? And then he's just because one by one through like this huge mechanics checklist. When did you last rotate your tires? Like, dude, like, I'm, uh, I'm low level. Okay, I have a car. It gets me from A to B.
Georgie 16:57
I’m a lay man, I'm just trying to sell my car.
Geoff 16:58
Lay man, lay person. I am a normie.
Georgie 17:01
A normie in the car area?
Geoff 17:03
Yeah. Normie in the cars.
Georgie 17:05
Yeah.
Geoff 17:06
So his wife comes out. And then they kind of have a conversation. He's like, okay, I don't, I don't think I can give you 8000 for it but I’ll give you like maybe for like, 4000. I’m like, come on. 4000. He goes, Yeah, you haven't changed any of the stuff you hadn't done like, nine out of 10 of these items. And I'm gonna have to, he goes around again. And he says I'm gonna have to pay X amount for this X amount. X amount for this X amount for this. And he's I'm like, holy shit. He either really knows how to talk about it. Or he actually knows what he's talking about.
Georgie 17:48
No I think people do that. I think people do this. People negotiate this kind of thing. And especially with cars. Well, anyway, go on.
Geoff 17:57
Yeah. So. So he's like, Okay, I'm gonna give you maybe four and a half I’m like Hmm. Okay, for four and a half Sure. I just wanted to get it over and done with, I wasn't confident that I was going to find an, another buyer and to be honest, not worth my time. So his wife’s standing there, and he's like, Do you like it? And she's like, yeah, that's fine. And he goes, do you wanna put under my name or your name? And then they start, they start a different compensation. Like, ah, you already have four cars under your name. And you have I have three cars under my name, so maybe we'll put it under my name. I'm like, why the fuck do these people have seven cars, like, Who needs seven cars?
Georgie 18:42
Why are they having this conversation? Like, shouldn't they not have been prepared? Before they, they met up with you? I don't know.
Geoff 18:51
Yeah, yes. It's so confusing. I think she had a child strapped to her, at some like she had a baby strapped to her. So I was standing there going, thinking.
Georgie 19:03
But why do they have so many cars I still don’t get it? OK anyway.
Geoff 19:04
Exactly. Alright, so like I told you in the beginning, it was either the most carefully orchestrated scam or like the or the most wholesome thing because I was like, ah, they're a family, she has, they have two children. Like the other older one came out and like rode his scooter around the car park while they were speaking
Georgie 19:26
Jesus christ.
Geoff 19:26
I’m like this is so wholesome. Maybe this is the whole like scam. They bring their family around and you feel bad for them or you know happy to give them like 50% off.
Georgie 19:41
Fuck man.
Geoff 19:42
But I was, yeah. So um, after the debate of the seven cars, the grand debate of seven cars. They decided to put it under his name and then and then she she went into the car, brought out an envelope of cash. And handed it to me. This one was in 50s. Ah actually this was in like $100 bills I think most of the $100 bills because I think they just went to the bank and took out 8000 just in case it cost 8000, so that was, that was fine and then we went to register the sale and I was about to put the amount that that we agreed on in the in the registrations of the sale. And the guy was like No, no, no, what are you doing? Why are you putting the actual amount you put $0 so that some some weird tax reason or some weird sales reason right?
Georgie 20:41
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 20:42
I’m like okay, so I just put $0 in it and washed my hands of this transaction.
Georgie 20:50
So this is the only car you've ever sold right? That was like your only, first and only experience?
Geoff 20:56
Yeah, yeah, I bought it. I bought it secondhand from a dealer. And then this is me selling it secondhand to someone else.
Georgie 21:05
Yeah.
Geoff 21:06
So yeah,
Georgie 21:07
We had a similar weird experience when Nick was selling his car a few years back and the guy he came all the way it was very weird. And when you when when you mentioned like this kind of really well, it was, it was like really well orchestrated or whatever I think. And thinking back to when my parents were looking for a car for my brother they kind of planned things they were going to say and all of this kind of stuff. So they prepared well. So anyway, this guy wanted to buy Nick’s car and he I think he phoned in the evening and he was like, I want to come and see it tomorrow like tomorrow morning. And like we have to go to work and all of this stuff and we were just like oh let's just do like eight o'clock or whatever so we can go to the gym beforehand or whatever. And this guy wanted to come at like seven or some shit. So the next morning he comes at like, he comes at like fucking 6:30 and we were still in bed or something. I don't know it was basically like 40 minutes before he before we agreed on, and the time we agreed on, it was like early for us. We had to like, I'm not saying we had to bend over backwards, but it was, it was early for us. But anyway, apparently he'd come down from Central Coast. Don't know how, but that's like, like, I don't know at least a two hour journey whatever two or three hour journey but yeah, he did the same thing with the with the documents. He was just like, Oh, can you put it as like this much less because of some shit or whatever. And like, whoever's listening to this conversation, I am not a car person either. I don't know shit. So it probably makes sense for some people. But yeah, it was so fucking weird. The guy wanted it, the guy wanted the car. Like he really wanted the car. He was like I’ll pay in cash, and so on so on. And I don't know why. But this whole thing just feels dodgy and annoying. Selling like a secondhand or selling your car yourself through whatever CarSales, Gumtree. And it feels like such a pain. And he asked the same sort of questions, I believe like, when was the last service? When was this blah, ugh? Just like fuck, man.
Geoff 23:18
Maybe the script? Maybe if you googled if you googled how to buy a car, how to buy a second hand car.
Georgie 23:25
I just don’t give a shit Geoff.
Geoff 23:27
Comes out with like a huge, it just comes out with a huge checklist of buying a used car. It's that's NRMA, “20 tips of buying a secondhand car” and, and it's like, maybe they've got this huge script for someone to just to list off in front of people who don't know shit about cars. But that they would have driven like an hour down from Central Coast. So not too bad.
Georgie 23:54
But he didn't have a car. He said he didn't have a car. So I don’t even know how.
Geoff 23:58
Oh yeah, train?
Georgie 24:00
Yeah, I guess it he could have been on a train. Oh, yeah.
Geoff 24:02
Oh look at that.
Georgie 24:02
And like when we met him, he was like – oh haha no route found.
Geoff 24:08
It can’t give us the train.
Georgie 24:10
When we met him he was like, do you want a coffee or whatever? It's like, just stop this. What do you call it, playing nice shit, or whatever. Like, yeah, we –
Geoff 24:19
Yeah just transact, people.
Georgie 24:21
Fuck. Yeah, I mean, like, I understand being friendly with a person you're selling the thing to. This is like, not just cars, right? It's just, like, nice to be polite and whatever. And like I've met up with some people to sell clothes or, like I was, I remember one of my first Gumtree experiences. I was trying to sell a bunch of like cheap costume jewelry, like, like I just was just wanted to get rid of it. And I was like, I'll just give it in a bag for like 20 bucks and I was like, no one's gonna buy this and then this woman replied and I met her at like Town Hall station. And she was just like, a woman who was probably a bit older than me, and she gave me 20 bucks and she took the bag full of this costume jewelry and just walked off and it was just like she was nice. She was on time or whatever I was like, it's a good experience. It wasn't a creepy fucking person. And like, I'd asked Nick to come with me because I didn't want to get in trouble if it was like some dodgy dodgy person. Yeah.
Geoff 25:22
I actually sold AirPods, funnily enough. I feel like AirPods are probably the worst things to sell.
Georgie 25:31
Because they’ve been in your ears.
Geoff 25:32
To me, yeah, they're the most unhygenic things. Yeah, you take a bunch of like, Air, AirPods, particularly bad because they have this crevice that just collects gunk.
Georgie 25:45
Bacteria and shit.
Geoff 25:46
And then yeah, and you can't just like, for inner ears, I think you can take the tips off and you can wash them out and then you can reattach them and then and then you can sell them. But I had clean, I'd obviously meticulously detailed these AirPods. And funnily enough, when I was at Domain, we had a Slack channel that I started, called “buy sell swap”, because I needed to sell something.
Georgie 26:18
Good one. Yeah.
Geoff 26:19
I think I started it in my like first week at at Domain. Like I had my my coworker and I had bought batteries, like these, like the bigger the bigger, portable battery packs. That can like charge a laptop, kind of battery pack. And I can't remember why but I think I got sent the wrong one that can't charge my laptop. So I was like, how do I get rid of this? I mean, I'm inside a tech company. So I guess someone would want to buy it. Yeah. So I just palmed, I palmed it off to somebody. By the way, selling to co workers is probably the best and easiest thing of all time.
Georgie 27:03
Yeah it’s a good back.
Geoff 27:03
Cuz you know, they're not generally psychopaths. And, you know, most of them.
Georgie 27:09
Yeah, we actually have some of the women at work. We had like a bit of a clothing swap thing one time, and I was trying to, I just palmed off my clothes because I just, I didn't want to sell them. But I'm like someone might like this stuff. And so we had this, like, lounge area and we all just put our clothes there and you can just go up at any time and grab whatever you want to stuff. So that was pretty cool. But yeah, it's a good it's a good hack. I would say like when you buy something or sell something.
Geoff 27:35
My desk became a store essentially like it was just a rotating door of random like chunks that I would buy. And I like it doesn't really fit my use case after all and I just like put on buy sell swap. Anyways, so someone had put buy put on “buy sell swap” a pair of AirPods. About a case with the AirPods in it. Yeah. So but it looked real drab, like case was barely shiny anymore. It wasn't even shiny white. So it had so much it's scuffed so much. And then you go you took photos of the AirPods themselves. And there was a visible ear gunk.
Georgie 28:21
Oh duuude.
Geoff 28:21
It wasn't like clean, right? And this this is what this person wanted like $250 or something for like retail essentially. Almost almost retail.
Georgie 28:34
So I was just looking at mine. And like I mean, if I think about it, it's like I've used them and shit they've been in my ears. Like, I feel like it'd be lucky to get like 30 bucks. But.
Geoff 28:45
Yeah, so this person wanted like 200 bucks. I can't remember what retail air pods are. But
Georgie 28:50
Also personally I would not buy secondhand AirPods.
Geoff 28:53
Me neither. I don't buy secondhand anything.
Georgie 28:58
Oh yeah, we've talked about this.
Geoff 28:59
It's a whole nother conversation. But okay, so let's let's have a look at AirPods, right, AirPods cost, with the charging case, $250. This person probably asking for 150, 200.
Georgie 29:13
With visible ear gunk.
Geoff 29:15
With visible ear gunk. And there was so many comments in the thread like, Dude, this is like, disgusting or whatever. And I was like, this is kind of good for me. I posted my one and it's like, perfect, meticulously clean AirPods like they were new.
Georgie 29:39
Did you put a bargain price on it? Like 50 bucks?
Geoff 29:40
I put the same prices as them. I put same price as them. I'm like I'm can, I can compete. Their’s is so shitty that I could compete. Yes, so I ended up not selling it to people at work because I think people at work are have the same kind of mind as us like, you don't buy AirPods like second hand, it's kind of gross.
Georgie 30:04
I mean, I don't judge anybody who chooses like, and like I'm saying this because I'm like, I actually, I realised, so I buy a lot of stuff online anymore. I used to buy a lot of stuff from Lululemon. And then I realised you could resell that stuff and people don't mind and like, you know, you wash them and clothes or whatever. And people are okay to wear. People are generally okay with secondhand clothes, but I feel like activewear was a bit of a line for me. And then when I realised that, some people are okay with buying, like secondhand activewear, then I was like, OK I’m just not gonna judge people who wear second hand like things like AirPods, or like clothes, or whatever. I mean, obviously, there's another line, and that's like, underwear and shit. But yeah, like, I mean, I get that some people can't afford to buy like AirPods and can't afford to buy $130 Lululemon leggings. So then go and, you know, buy it half the price, because somebody has bought it and worn it like a bunch of times, and that's fine. So yeah, anyway.
Geoff 31:06
Yeah. Again, I'd probably go to spending habits, like if you can't afford it, then don’t buy it,
Georgie 31:13
But like, I mean, what I mean is like, some people just kind of not priv– like not in a privileged position to afford like, high quality tech or active wear.
Geoff 31:27
Yeah, but you can kind of you kind of think of it as, like, Is it really a necessity? Like if I, if they could go without it, but I know there are people just money conscious, like in general, right? Whether like, I don't want to pay $250 for AirPods, I could afford it. But actually, it's not worth 250 in my mind, so I'll go buy it secondhand, I'll get $100 and I would have saved 150 for the same quality.
Georgie 31:54
I guess it's also like maybe some people are conscious of buying stuff that people don't want so that they're not, you know, I mean, like the zero waste movement sort of thing. I think there are probably people who choose to buy secondhand things because they can and it's better for the environment yada yada. Anyway continue.
Geoff 32:13
You were saying like you would go you would go get you go get secondhand clothing just because like this, there's lots of good buys out there for secondhand clothes.
Georgie 32:22
Yeah, and like I find unique things. And like I don't like I don't love buying new shit because it's usually trendy. And like sometimes I just find more interesting stuff secondhand, and –
Geoff 32:38
Yeah
Georgie 32:38
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 32:41
So I didn't end up selling it at work. But I got someone on Gumtree to to buy it. And, actually, yeah, so I met up with them at Central. And they put the, they kind of held the AirPods to like their ear.
Georgie 32:58
Right.
Geoff 32:59
To try it out. They, and then they said, Hmm, these seem a little bit like, lower bass, they have a lower base, like, Okay, is that good or bad, the like, it's just lower than mine. Like, okay, are you going to take it? And they're like, I'm not sure. Did you do something to them? I'm like, dude, look, whatever it is about these AirPods, I can't fix them. So you just tell me whether or not you want them. Because at this stage, whether or not they're like, lower or higher, they are what they are. Yeah, it’s not gonna change. And then like I, like, just buy it if you if you want it. He was standing there for like 5, 10 minutes. He's just making comments about the audio quality. And I’m like dude, yes or no? He's like, sorry, I'm not gonna take it. I’m like, fine. I just I just kind of laughed.
Georgie 34:17
Was he trying to haggle?
Geoff 34:17
Yeah, why spend time commenting on the audio quality? I don't know. I'm like, he didn't he didn't say he wanted it at a cheaper price. He was unhappy with the audio quality. And I realised that because of age. Yeah, just say no. But I realised that because age, age on on, headphones and earphones, the parts inside them basically wear and tear through wear and tear. They get lower over time. All right. Okay. So that was really interesting. Except like, yeah, this this dude made a real big point about it. He was asking me like, Did you do something to them? Or what? Like, how, how many times have you charged it? How many times like.
Georgie 35:06
Did he ask these questions?
Geoff 35:08
Cos charged, yeah, charge cycles.
Georgie 35:10
All right fair enough.
Geoff 35:11
Because it gives you gives you an indication of how long the battery will last. But like, I don't know how many charge cycles? Yeah, the more charge cycles, your batteries go through the less charge, they can keep in on a long, longer term, longer time. So let's say your battery capacity was 100%. At one point, and like, the more charge cycles, the more times that your battery has gone from 0% to 100%. Or even, that's a cycle and the, and over time your battery degrades. And therefore, it would probably only charge to 90% capacity, even though it says 100%.
Georgie 35:54
Yeah.
Geoff 35:55
So it keeps charged for less, less time. And that's why people say always charge to 80% don't charge to like 100% because that makes your battery last longer.
Georgie 36:05
What if you drain the thing, whatever the device is, and then you charge it up? Like what if you actually –
Geoff 36:12
Oh that's even worse.
Georgie 36:13
Oh, is it?
Geoff 36:14
Yeah, it's it's bad to keep to drop your battery to like below 10% or 0%. It's harder for the batteries to then charge again.
Georgie 36:25
Yeah, so the iPhone stops at 80% anyway sometimes. I don't know about AirPods though.
Geoff 36:31
That's amidst complaints about like, because Android has done this for like a decade has done this for literally a decade.
Georgie 36:42
Yeah...
Geoff 36:42
And Apple is just like we handle everything in the shadows and no one should really have to care about this. But then I think people started wising up and testing Apple devices and then you know lodging complaints about how battery degradation and crap like that. Yeah so AirPods they don't stop you. And I don't know if anybody really cares that much about AirPods it's it's it's like lifetime for $250, is probably two half years maybe three if you’re lucky. There's no way to replace the batteries yeah. There's no way to replace the batteries at all. So it's really just a wasteful product you have to throw it out or give it back to Apple to somehow recycle.
Georgie 37:27
Yeah, I think I ended up just uh, chucking my my old ones in the E waste.
Geoff 37:33
Yeah, yeah. If you have a look at those YouTube videos of people opening up AirPods and showing how terribly built they are, and how 90% of it is just gunk like this glue this black unrecyclable glue. Electrical glue is like 90% of the insides of this thing. Anyways in non sustainable conversations it's probably the most unsustainable thing.
Georgie 38:00
I think at that point you just have to accept that that's the way it works and then if you need a new new pair you just bloody get a new pair.
Geoff 38:08
Yeah, yeah, so it seems like this buyer wasn't completely aware of this and neither was I so if anybody wants to buy secondhand AirPods or audio equipment in general and don't like that it's like a little bit bass-ier then brand new, then that's just the way it is.
Georgie 38:26
Suck it up.
Geoff 38:27
So after – yes, after that, I was like huh, okay, so I waited for the next one and the next one was err like strange but in a different way. We met outside my work in North Sydney and they gave me the cash and they took the AirPods box they I have it in the original box they took the box and walked away.
Georgie 38:52
Didn't even check it?
Geoff 38:53
They just gave me the money and walked away they didn't check it was what was inside they didn't check that it worked. They just like, I could have put a brick inside of the box and they walked away with it. And I'm like wow, they're really they're a really trusting buyer. But yeah, in general yeah, Gumtree but like selling stuff on Gumtree has been has been okay.
Georgie 39:18
Have I told you about my
Geoff 39:19
Have you ever had to give away stuff for free?
Georgie 39:22
Oh give away stuff oh, oh yes I have stories. Okay, so also with I have three stories actually. Which one do you wanna hear first, I got one about giving something away for free, another one about extremely dodgy shit, and and, probably like questionable shit that resulted in the person getting banned. And then another one was actually a positive story.
Geoff 39:44
Whoa. All right, go with the banned story.
Georgie 39:49
Oh you wanna hear the banned story.
Geoff 39:49
And the free stuff after.
Georgie 39:52
Oh is what you want. You want to end with the with the nice one eh? Is that how it is?
Geoff 39:56
The free stuff and the nice one, the nice one and the free stuff? Yeah.
Georgie 39:59
OK so I'll do that I'll do the bad one. Okay, this is just bad but so I've already said that I sell like, I try to I usually sell clothes on eBay. Before I so I think I first tried to sell clothes on eBay when I was like in my early 20s and I mostly sold like shirts that I had from like ThinkGeek and Threadless back when I used to dress pretty nerdy. And that was fine. Decided to get Gumtree ago because it seemed like a you know, like a friendly classified community, blah, blah, blah
Geoff 40:32
Back then back then it probably was back then.
Georgie 40:36
Yeah. So I was trying to get rid of some dresses because I just had so many dresses. And I think I was just trying to sell a few in bulk or whatever, because clothes, clothes can be a bit difficult to sell individually. And then I thought because it's on Gumtree I can just meet up with someone and just give them a little bag of clothes. So I'm trying to sell these dresses and whatever I put a price on it, took some photos, I think of the dresses and then I took some photos or had some photos of me wearing them just like a front on in the mirror. And then I think I just cropped my crop my face out of it. Somebody messaged me, and like, I, I was like, yeah, in my early 20s. And I was very oblivious to what this person actually meant. And these their message said, Okay, this is a clothes, because it's clothes, right, I said they've been washed and like, they're, yeah, they're washed and clean, basically. And their message said, “Hi. Is there any chance that I could get these dresses unwashed?” And then I was like...
Geoff 42:02
Hahahaha I know exactly what this means...
Georgie 42:02
Yeah, and I didn't, I didn't get it. I was like, what? The person's name was –
Geoff 42:10
It’s much more popular these days, arguably like back then it probably wasn’t a thing.
Georgie 42:14
Yeah, so this was, I would say it was maybe 2010 or something, probably 10 years ago, whatever it was, and the person's name was like Robert, or some guy's name. And I was just reading them. I was like, I didn't get it. And so I replied, and I said, hi, these, no, these dresses all have been have already been washed. Like, that's what I said. And then this guy replied and said, yeah, that, but can you please do me a favour? And I would really like them unwashed. Can you please do that for me? And I think there was like a smiley face. Just like I was like completely oblivious until I just I think I must have sat there. Or maybe I came back to it. And then I was like, oh fuck you’re a dirty cunt. I was like, This is disgusting. And then I just went and reported it. And I just reported it to whatever their customer care, and I said, Hey, this person is sending me like some sexually inappropriate messages. Whoever asked me to buy like these clothes that I'm selling and, ah fuck man.
Geoff 43:27
How long did it take you to realise this is a, this is a like, inappropriate thing.
Georgie 43:33
Well, like I said, I responded and then he replied back and said, Can you I guess it was like the way he wrote that. It was when I realised after I read it a few times, and
Geoff 43:43
Like the smiley face?
Georgie 43:44
With the smiley face, going do me a favor, and I was like, Oh, that is fucked. That is so fucked. And I think I can't remember exactly because it was a while ago, but I think he might have even said what he like, roughly vaguely, explained what he wanted to do. Or he just yeah. Jesus Christ.
Geoff 44:06
Yeah, the reason why it's a little bit more popular these days. Is that Did you hear do you, have you heard of this person called Belle Delphine?
Georgie 44:16
No.
Geoff 44:17
Yeah, no. Okay. So she influenced quite popular. She's a popular internet personality. Let's call her an internet personality. Not so much an influencer. But she tried to sell her bathwater for a lot of money, she sold it for a lot of money. Now no one knows if the bath water was actually actually had her, like...
Georgie 44:44
She used it?
Geoff 44:44
Essence in it. Or like it was from her actual bath. But yeah, there's a huge controversy about selling the bath water and I think she I think she was like selling it over OnlyFans or something. Yeah so so yeah, a lot of stuff goes on where people are like sell, trying to sell like their underwear and shit like that over over OnlyFans.
Georgie 45:10
Is it an OnlyFans thing though.
Geoff 45:13
No it's not it's not specifically an only fans thing. I think it's just the fetish type thing.
Georgie 45:19
It's kind of funny... Wait, so you're telling me I could make some seriously big bucks by just trying to sell my underwear on Gumtree?
Geoff 45:25
You could. You just sell your underwear on Gumtree. And just put “used”, just put like “used” in parentheses, and there's a market there.
Georgie 45:34
You know what that reminds me of. So I don't know, I've never used Craigslist. But back in high school, my friends, and I had a friend group of both girls and guys, and the guys discovered this ad on Craigslist, which just made us all crack up and think it was super gross. And it was someone selling a bunch like selling a, like some footy shorts, like some men's kind of short sport shorts. And like, Hey, I'm selling these, they’re used and I think this has been before, like, you know, zero waste movement before people started, like thrifting, buying secondhand stuff, before people felt really okay with that. When secondhand was associated with like ew, dirty, poor and stuff. So anyway, the guys said I’m selling this pair of like shorts. He had photos of the shorts, but they weren't photos just like of him wearing the shorts, or like just on a table or whatever. They were like, it was a photo one photo of him wearing the shorts, but it was like a cropped one, like a cropped picture of just the shorts. So his, it’ss his legs and his like nether regions, but it was in a position that was just like, kind of perverse. It's just like, just a pair of shorts and a guy and it looks really perverse. And they were really tight on him. And we were like I think it was 16 or whatever, thinking this was like gross and hilarious at the same time.
Geoff 47:12
I think that wasn't an ad for shorts. Maybe
Georgie 47:15
A guy showing his junk.
Geoff 47:16
It was an ad for other services. It’s other services that people pay for involving junk. Yeah, but so yeah, like back to free stuff.
Georgie 47:34
Oh, yeah, free stuff. Do you have a free stuff story.
Geoff 47:38
Yeah. Like the problem with some of the stuff that I buy is that it’s highly, highly specialised. I don't know if I told you about this one.
Georgie 47:48
Niche.
Geoff 47:49
But yeah, niche I guess things that only I would like, and are really hard to sell. But there is this thing called a vertical dock for a MacBook Pro.
Georgie 48:03
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember you buying this or talking about it at least.
Geoff 48:07
Yeah. Okay.
Georgie 48:08
I think I think you said it didn't really work out for you, because you realised it wasn't actually as practical as you imagined or something?
Geoff 48:15
Oh, man, I think it was fine. But I have had a very complicated set up for this thing to, to like, facilitate. I feel like it was very unfair to it. But for the average person, it's a it's a dock essentially, and you have multiple things connect to the dock, and then when you want to connect your laptop to those multiple things, you just have one cable, you plug it into your laptop, and then multiple things. It’s like a big ass dongle. But it holds the MacBook vertically now. No one in their like, right mind would spend how much $230 on something that just hold your MacBook up vertically. But I did. So when I bought it. I was like cool. It's gonna look amazing. It did look amazing. It saved a lot of desk space. But when I went to sell my MacBook in order to get a new MacBook, the new MacBook wasn't supported by...
Georgie 49:19
Oh shit I remember this.
Geoff 49:21
So I basically had to give it away with the with the with the sale of the MacBook, and I had to give it some ran – like confused person because I was like, here's the MacBook. And I just, I’ve just thrown in this vertical dock and that does like
Georgie 49:41
They didn’t get it. It’s a free thing.
Geoff 49:45
I think I told them about it. Yeah, I think I told them that it included this and they're like, yeah, I'll take it. They said I can I take it without the dock and I'm like I'll just give you the dock for free and they're like, okay, I don't know
Georgie 50:00
Oh man they don’t want free things.
Geoff 50:01
But yeah just like free stuff. But I sold it off with the with the vertical dock and I was pretty, I wasn't sad about it but I was also, you know kind of lost money on it but again I didn't want to have a vertical dock just sitting around. So my my minimalism kicked in and I was like screw it it's it's just gonna sit there and do nothing, then I don't want it at all. I sold a monitor sorry so just quickly, yeah I sold a monitor and I usually have monitor arms with my monitors. But because I wasn't buying another monitor I had no use for the arm. I was just like, well I just give it away. Take the monitor. Yeah.
Georgie 50:47
Wait so you gave it away with the stuff you were selling like with the...
Geoff 50:51
Yeah, so I was selling the monitor and I was like, here’s a monitor arm because no one would buy it. Like I think it's really difficult to like sell it individually, and that's the only thing I find difficulty in selling is when I buy stupid stupidly niche stuff or I have no use for an accessory that I bought with the item itself anymore and I think people should just take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've given away some stuff.
Georgie 51:16
I've given away free shit. So I didn't do it with something else, I was just like I need to get rid of this and no one's gonna no one's gonna buy it, so I'm just giving it away for free. So I have a really small wardrobe like physically the space, there's not a lot of space in there. And when I was buying some new hangers I hadn't really thought about this I just wanted I wanted like nice hangers. So I go to IKEA and I buy the thick wooden ones because I'm like these are sturdy, these are like you know, probably fine quality. They won’t like ruin my clothes, and so on. And I just buy like, can’t even remember. Must have been like a pack of 20 or something maybe even more from, from IKEA. And then I started putting my clothes on these thick wooden hangers, started hanging in my wardrobe. And because my wardrobe is so narrow and so small, I could only fit about 10 of these before the wardrobe was fucking full because of the width of the hangers. And I was like fuck. So I had no choice but to opt for a different hanger so that I could use up the space in there and not have them taken up by hangers because I mean honestly I'm a minimalist but I don't only own 10 pieces of clothing. So go on Gumtree, and I'm like I'm just gonna give these away for free on Gumtree and I just said yeah, free uh, 20 wooden hangers from IKEA pickup only, come get it at so and so. And I just listed the shopping centre that I live near. And like within like 10 minutes I think I had like four people text me go, Hey, is it still available? Hey is this still available, but I’m like oh shit this was a bad idea, wasn't it? And I had some people message me on the Gumtree like app, whatever, website, directly and then I was like, Fuck, this is annoying. I don't think anyone actually called; I think they all texted or whatever. And I was like, oh man, who do I give it to? Such? Yeah, eventually this woman was like, I think I replied and said, I just said yes, it's still available. Right? And I said that to some people, and then some of them never responded back. But then I had this woman saying, Hey,
Geoff 53:47
That is my one pet peeve of any of this shit? They ask if it’s available. You say yes. And then they ghost you? And I'm like
Georgie 53:57
Waste of time.
Geoff 53:58
I have three people. Can you like can you tell me like? Do you still want this? Do you still want this? Do you still want this?
Georgie 54:05
I just I just assume they’re not...
Geoff 54:06
Normally I don’t find it hard to get people.
Georgie 54:08
I assume they’re not going to reply.
Geoff 54:09
No, no, I don't find it hard.
Georgie 54:12
But yeah, this woman's just like a
Geoff 54:14
I just need to sell the thing, right?
Georgie 54:16
So the woman asked me is this still available, she said I could pick it up at like, 1:30 today. I'm like, fuck it. You're the person. You are the man. Or in this case, the woman?
Geoff 54:25
Yeah, usually.
Georgie 54:26
Yeah
Geoff 54:26
Speed is key. Yeah.
Georgie 54:29
And then it was I think she just messaged like, I'm here whatever, I just saw her, handed her the bag and fucked off with those giant IKEA hangers woohoo. So yeah.
Geoff 54:39
Yeah. I've never actually sold something for free. Um, I mean
Georgie 54:43
Would you call it selling?
Geoff 54:45
I’ve never given away an item for free. Yeah, I wouldn't be selling. Um, my sister is part of this like Facebook group that is literally like free, free stuff. It's like free swap, whatever. And yeah, just like they, they give away things for free all the time that need to get, don’t need to get money involved but yeah when I sell things I don't normally have a hard time find like getting some responses but i i think it was the timing in which I wanted to sell my MacBook where it took a lot longer than I thought it would I think it's just because the new MacBooks came out and offloading an old MacBook to buy the new MacBook and so yeah if if people if there's like two or three people who have like “is this available” I'll only chase up if like I I had already you know honestly I already bought the new MacBook, so I was trying to get the money for to like reimburse myself
Georgie 55:48
Offset?
Geoff 55:48
Yeah for this purchase to offset it so so yeah it took it took a while and then I started like following up on people who just said is this still available and I say yes and then they like maybe they do like a little bit of negotiation but then they ghost you. Like any time someone ghosts you in the middle of like trying, me trying to sell you shit like. fuck off like I like stop stop doing this. Just go away.
Georgie 56:17
Yeah I had this woman, man, she was buying a jewellery box off me which I was only selling for like fucking ten, twnety dollars, and like we agreed to meet up at a certain time outside like Town Hall. And then I'm there with the thing and I wait for like 20 minutes but before the 20, before like, I wait for 10 minutes, I go, Hey you you on your way, you still coming or whatever, are we still meeting up. I fucking waited another like yeah 10 minutes she didn't fucking turn up but then I went back to work because like I work in the city, and then she messages me like a few hours later and then she's like, I’m so sorry I was in a meeting or whatever, like can we meet at like 4:30 and I'm like fucking hell. So yeah, I think I think we did yeah, we did that and then like eventually I did give it to her but like she really pissed me off and I was like, okay but if you don't show up within 10 minutes I'm fucking leaving. But yeah, and she came late and it just gave me not a good impression, I was so annoyed. Yeah go on.
Geoff 57:20
People are so lucky to be buying from us cuz we have jobs that let us just leave anytime we want and –
Georgie 57:33
Yes we’re flexible.
Geoff 57:36
Yeah we’re like with like the most like we're the most flexible jobs of all time. And they should be so lucky to have someone who can just sell shit and leave their office anytime they want, to give you the thing you want, and also we clean our shit. We wash it, even though they don't want it washed. Do you want to you want to end with, with your great end.
Georgie 58:06
Yeah my success story. So this is me actually buying I was actually buying off Gumtree I think this was back in 2012 So have you heard of the band Weezer?
Geoff 58:19
Not even a little bit.
Georgie 58:22
Ah dude why are we even friends.
Geoff 58:23
Australian music it's just not even on my radar.
Georgie 58:25
They’re American. American.
Geoff 58:27
Oh okay sorry.
Georgie 58:31
Did you just put me in a box Geoff? Nah anyway. Nah they sang the song Island in the Sun surely you know that one?
Geoff 58:39
Yeah I probably know the song but I don't know the artist and this is very common. I don't
Georgie 58:45
“We’re on a holiday”... I cannot sing.
Geoff 58:50
Weezer rock band. Okay.
Georgie 58:53
Go go, Island in the Sun. You will know that one.
Geoff 58:57
Wait, Take on Me? Weezer did Take on Me?
Georgie 59:00
Nah nah nah, Weezer did an album of covers recently I think it was in 2020. So they did do an album covers which are pretty good but.
Geoff 59:09
Okay
Georgie 59:10
Yeah, go play like the first 10 seconds of Island in the Sun. and if yo don't know this you are dead to me Geoff.
Geoff 59:21
Okay, all right. Island in the Sun, here we go.
Georgie 59:25
Just ten seconds.
Geoff 59:30
I can't play it over there because fucking...
Georgie 59:34
YouTube that shit or something.
Geoff 59:39
It's on my Spotify. Got nothing.
Georgie 59:46
What?
Geoff 59:47
Still nothing?
Georgie 59:48
Bro? So anyway.
Geoff 59:50
This is – I'll play it whilst you're talking
Georgie 59:55
Alright, so anyway, Weezer, American rock band. Anybody who doesn't know them is totally dead to me. Geoff is so dead to me after this. So back in 2012...
Geoff 1:00:05
We’re getting to my grave.
Georgie 1:00:07
So they hadn't come to Australia in like 14 years or something. And I know that's funny because like their first album came out like when I was three years or some shit. So they hadn't been in they hadn’t been in Australia since I was fucking three. Since the last time they had been in Australia.
Geoff 1:00:25
How do you know this band?
Georgie 1:00:27
How do I know them? Because I just listen to a wide range of music. So anyway,
Geoff 1:00:33
Ooh, Miss Connoisseur of music and shit.
Georgie 1:00:39
They, yeah, they were having a, I think it was like a 10 year anniversary tour or something of the Blue Album, which was, if I remember correctly, was released in 1993 or 94. And I was like, Oh shit, I missed out on tickets, right? I guess cuz I was in my early 20s. And I only started going to concerts and stuff so I don't like keep track of absolutely everything. And like you just alluded to Geoff, yeah, I was very much into like Australian music at the time. So I found out that they were doing a tour in 2012. And there were no more tickets left and I was like, oh but I really want to see them like. I don't remember how long I'd liked their music to that point. Like I probably heard some of it when I was younger and not really paid a lot of attention. But yeah, as a 20 something year old. Like in 2012. I really wanted to see them. So I go on Gumtree try and look for tickets. And I'm like, man, this is this might end badly right? It could be, it could be, fakes.
Geoff 1:01:49
Oh, fakes. Yeah. You went to the scalpers? How does that, how's it feel when you're 20 in your 2020 self?
Georgie 1:01:59
I don't know, like I hadn't. I didn't really know anything about concerts and people selling concert tickets and that kind of thing at that time. But I I had heard of people trying to sell through their friends like I hey, I've got tickets to I don't know what Foo Fighters like, or whatever, some other band Green Day. Like, I've got tickets and I can't make it. Like, you know, I'm just mentioning bands you actually know Geoff?
Geoff 1:02:28
Are these bands you think I know? Foo Fighters in Green Day.
Georgie 1:02:31
Do you know them?
Geoff 1:02:31
That’s the spectrum of my music? I do know them. But I don’t feel like that was representative –
Georgie 1:02:43
You don’t know Weezer!
Geoff 1:02:43
Just Foo Fighters and Green Day!
Georgie 1:02:49
So wait, the reason I mentioned those is, I did that based on how old we are. And the kind of around like, so yeah, I've heard of friends trying to sell tickets for maybe even like, like a cheap price or whatever. Anyway, I don't remember how much these tickets are supposed to cost. But some guy was selling two tickets for like $100 maybe 200 can't remember. Actually, I think it might have just been 100. And he's like, I can't make it any more. And um, this whole time, of me like messaging the guy and saying, Hey, can you sell like one? Because like, I was going to go by myself because at the time my, my boyfriend at the time didn't really like go to concerts with me and shit. And um. He was like, Oh, yeah, I can sell you one. I was like, I hope, I was thinking I hope he wasn't annoyed that I only wanted one ticket. Because he was obviously trying to get rid of both of them. So yeah, I said I just want to buy one and we agreed to meet on the Town Hall steps. And this whole time I'm like, oh man, what if this guy's telling me a fake whatever and I think at the time $50 felt like a lot of money because like I had just had like a shitty little job or whatever. And um yeah, so he says I'm wearing like a Hawaiian shirt or whatever he's like he said, I'm the guy in the loud Hawaiian shirt. And he actually was wearing like a brightly colored Hawaiian shirt. And I–
Geoff 1:04:18
I think I'm the worst person to buy from because I just say I’m wearing black. Just like every other person!
Georgie 1:04:28
Yeah, so anyway, guy’s is hopefully not shady sitting hanging out in the steps, on time and then like he gives me the ticket and give it I look at it and I'm like, it looks legit, right? It looks legit, right? I just give him a $50 bill and then yeah, and then I'm hanging on in this ticket right up to the day that like the concert, the day of the concert. I'm looking at it going man, I really hope this is authentic. I didn't know if there's a way to check that it's like, fake or not, whatever. And I remember, he was like, when when we parted ways he was like enjoy the, enjoy the show and I was like I hope I, like you better not be scamming me dude. Yeah, I even remember like when I was lining up on the day, I was quite early because I was trying to sneak my DSLR in. This is before I like got into concert photography. Like just before, and I'm just like–
Geoff 1:05:18
You're walking a very fine line. Fake ticket, DSLR...
Unknown Speaker 1:05:24
This was at the Sydney Entertainment Centre, which doesn't exist anymore now or it’s something else. Whatever it is. Yeah, and I'm just like hiding my DSLR under my under my arm in its bag. And I come early, because I want to try and get at the front. Because it's a giant, like it's a giant venue. It's not giant like stadium, but it's big. And yeah, and then they just start opening the doors and I'm like oh man, what if this ticket’s fake, this whole time I’m just like worried that the ticket is fake. And then the doors open. But you know, early on a lot of people don't really come to those bigger shows early, they'll come like, you know, after the doors open, so there's like maybe 20 people whatever and it's like checking the tickets and then people walking in. So it's not very busy. And I'm like worried about you know, smuggling my DSLR, also worried about the ticket being fake, and go oh man, I'm in my mind I'm thinking what I'm going to do if it's fake, just go back home? And it was all making me feel very anxious and stuff. And then yeah, the security guard looks at the ticket or whatever. I think basically just scanned the ticket I'm in, and I'm like, I walked 10 meters in and I'm like shaking because I'm like, oh my god, it wasn't it was, the ticket was real! The ticket was real! Just like, oh, wow, this is great. And then I'm like, they didn’t see my camera either or whatever. And yeah, I stood right at the front, like I’m fucking keen as a bean, hardcore fan at the front, like right behind the barrier. And then like, I take out my camera once people start, like flooding in. And then I was able to take photos of my DSLR and the security guards are like in front of the barrier, which is where the actual photographers are, and, like, the security guard sometimes looks at me, but like, he doesn't give a shit that I’m holding this massive camera at the front. And like, I had a fucking good time. It was a fucking amazing concert. And like the pictures I took, like, squished by the barrier, were fucking amazing. And like, yeah, and the ticket was legit. Thank you, guy in the Hawaiian shirt from Gumtree.
Geoff 1:07:28
Yeah, it could have been a really smooth, smooth move, you know, as smooth pickup lines, like, Oh, this person wants one ticket. And like, I'll go with you. I'll be the second ticket. You want a ticket you have to take me with you.
Georgie 1:07:50
That would have been a cute story. That would have been the next Hollywood film.
Geoff 1:07:57
The, the ticket to get to your heart. That's, that's let's, let's get it into production. I do have a story. I mean, we're at like an hour, but I'll tell the story anyways. So this was when I was going to the States actually, for the first time. And like, like I kind of told a little bit of the story before was, um, so basically what I was being taken, like taken to the States, taken when I was going to the States, for my very dodge contract. I had a couple of things that I couldn't say when I was going through immigration. So one was that I cannot allude to me staying there at all. I am there technically on some kind of sponsored holiday is essentially like, I guess the, the technical term. And I brought so much documentation to prove I had a, like a degree to finish in Australia. I had a return ticket. I had enough money with me, so that I'm not just like going to the States bumming, and like becoming homeless or something. I had had so much evidence, and I had like a bunch of cash on me. And then when I got to the gate, I'm obviously like, shaking because I'm also 20. And the guy at the gate was like, Ah, I see it see you're like a software engineer or whatever. And I'm like, Yes. And then he's like, oh, like, what company would you like to work for? And I was like, holy shit fuck, what do I say. Holy shit, fuck, what do I say. Like, I like I'm not, I'm not here to work. And he says, No, what do you what do you what do you hope to work for?
Georgie 1:09:57
What's your dream company or something?
Geoff 1:09:58
What do you what company do you dream, yeah what company, your dream company, Facebook, Google? And I’m like Google I guess and he goes yeah cool. Like scan scan my fingerprints didn't ask for any documentation and I just went straight through and I was like holy shit. They’re like trying to be friendly but also freaking me the fuck out. And speaking of things that freak the fuck out, freak people the fuck out, is our intros, our outros, endings. It's like, entroes? So yeah, tell us the time you were, I don't know, selling some stuff to some dodgy people from maybe being asked. Yeah being like, buying from dodgy people, unwashed things.
Georgie 1:10:51
I don't want to hear any more of this.
Geoff 1:10:57
Yeah, don't don't hear it. Don't want to hear about that. Just buying and selling things in general. And don't forget to follow us on @toastroastpod on Instagram and Twitter.
Georgie 1:11:09
You can find us on all the big ones including Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, and the big Island in the Sun. Wink wink, Geoff.
Geoff 1:11:20
Oh, I'm never gonna hear the end of that one. And that's oh, and new episodes every Monday. We'll catch you next week, everybody.
Georgie 1:11:31
Bye!
Geoff 1:11:32
Bye!