Another whirlwind chat spanning windy experiences, digging into opinions on bucket lists and rounding it off with rock associations.
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Another whirlwind chat spanning windy experiences, digging into opinions on bucket lists and rounding it off with rock associations.
Birth stones: https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/07/02/birthstones-discover-birthstone-color-month/?sh=7149de891f06
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Geoff: Welcome back to another episode of Toast and Roast, I am your host Geoff and I’m here with, as usual, Georgie. How’s it going, Georgie.
Georgie: Hey, yeah, not too bad. How are you? It’s windy.
Geoff: Yeah. Yeah, it’s quite, it is quite windy. I am still working on a sleep deficit, I think. I haven’t managed to catch up on sleep. But yeah, How’s your week been?
Georgie: It’s been alright, actually about the about the wind but I didn’t go outside for a walk, and I actually think that when windy weather is kind of one of my least favourites weathers. Even if… I would choose rain over windy weather. I find wind so inconvenient. In comparison, like particularly because I have long hair, it dries my face out, my nose gets the runny, whereas in the rain, I guess I just have to hold an umbrella. Yeah.
Geoff: Yeah, I think, wind, also had some difficult experiences with wind. I think at one point it was so strong that I basically couldn’t breathe because of the wind pressure against me. I don’t understand how that works but yeah I was like shit I can’t, I can’t breathe but it’s so fucking windy. I can’t remember if I was on top of a mountain, or it was just a particularly windy day in some different country. Oh, I was in Newcastle, and it was so windy that I could jump, and feel a little lift, because I’m fucking 45 kilos.
Georgie: You’re tiny.
Geoff: Yeah. Haha. And, and my coworkers are joking about how like shit, you’re so light, probably could throw me and use me as a kite or something like that.
Georgie: I had a similar experience. When I went to the Snowy Mountains. When I was probably about 11 years old. I think that, kilometers per hour. The winds were like 90 – in the 90s, and I just felt like the wind was probably gonna blow me over. And sometimes I felt that with the wind today as well but um yeah, back when, I think it was a school trip to the Snowy Mountains, there was a little girl who was like, you know probably six or seven or seven years old, and she actually got blown over –
Geoff: Oh no.
Georgie: And she was like upset and crying when the wind blew her over. But yeah, I, as a fairly light person myself – small and light person, like I also feel like I’m being about to be blown over in really strong winds.
Geoff: Ah, I think the wind was so strong that I could lean against it, and I, I would feel the push, push back to the degree where I was semi confident that I could just relax, against the wind. Obviously it doesn’t work, but –
Georgie: I know that feeling.
Geoff: It gave me some semblance of confidence. But, what was it, we’re in Hong Kong, doing a hike up this, I think it was called the Dragonback hike, and it as it sounds. The hike was very up and down, up and down up and down, kind of like a wavy dragon, right. But it was so windy, at one of the peaks, and we saw this influencer, with their tripod, their camera, and they were sitting amongst kind of like the vegetation off, like, just, just next to the path. And it was so windy, and she was on a downward slope that her tripod kept like tipping over forward, and she kept having to get up and push the – like keep the tripod from like, crushing her, essentially. And I was like, man, that’s just so much work for the gram, you know. I would never, I would never spend so much time and effort for the gram. But then I’m, then, then the next moment I actually climbed on top of this, like semi high podium which was I guess half my height, so 80 centimetres or something like that. So I climbed up on top of it and I was like taking a panorama in the fuckin’ wind. And yeah, my friend was just saying, oh my god this, this looks so dangerous, Geoff, I do the craziest shit when they’re trying to take photos, everyone’s concerned.
Georgie: But it’s not, it’s not influencer level, you know like I feel like you just you want to get a good photo and you’ve kind of gone all this way, like I’ve had the same thing when I went to Cradle Mountain in Tasmania, unfortunately it was really windy on the day we climbed, and the view from the top was not really much of a view, and it was really foggy, but I just had to kind of stand near the edge and just take a photo just, just to prove that I’d been there and everything. It wasn’t even a good photo but it was so windy and it was like, bit of a risk to even take my phone out because it was light rain as well but, like, I feel like –
Geoff: Gotta be worth it.
Georgie: Sometimes gotta risk it to take a photo. Yes, even if you aren’t an influencer.
Geoff: Yeah, yeah, I’ve, I stood at the edge of like cliffs and stuff like that to take my photos, to the dismay of my friends and family who are around me, watching me do these things. But I’m aware, it does cause some anxiety in people so I try not to do it a lot around them, but for me I’m just like, yeah, whatever. I’m just gonna sit on the edge of Grand Canyon and take a photo or lean over, or something like that.
Georgie: When did you go to the Grand Canyon?
Geoff: It was around the time I was in San Francisco, and my cousin’s father was visiting, and one of his bucket list things to do, because he was old.
Georgie: Because he was old.
Geoff: Yeah, because he was old.
Georgie: Wait, hang on. We’ll come back to that bucket list comment.
Geoff: Yeah. So one of his bucket list things was to grab a rock, like, a thousand million year old rock from the Grand Canyon, and take it home. So, of course, my cousin knew I was there and he said, do you want to go down to the Grand Canyon with us. So I stowed away in that car and stowed away in the accommodation because it was crazy for two people, just like bummed –bummed in the corner on a mattress or something like that.
Georgie: Wow. Were you literally, literally stowed away?
Geoff: No, I don’t know if it was okay for me to be in the in the accommodation but I was there so yeah. And then so we went to the Grand Canyon. We drove all the way there from, where was it, so like, was it Silicon Valley, was it Redmond, I can’t remember where. Anyways we drove there, and, we just took a, we just took a walk very very short walk we didn’t have any tour, we didn’t get in a helicopter or anything. We just walked to this, round one of the sides of the Grand Canyon, looked out, and I took a photo, and I wasn’t very happy with the photo, to be honest, because it looked like a postcard.
Georgie: Haha. OK.
Geoff: And it was just very difficult to take a photo that didn’t look like a postcard, you know, because all the postcards, take photos from that exact same angle. So I wasn’t very happy with the fact that my photo wasn’t unique or anywhere close to.
Georgie: Yeah, I’ve seen, I’ve seen like a Vox video on the Grand Canyon and how they had, they’ve had to add railings. Over the decades, because people kept… I think there were some deaths from people falling over the edge. And just as tourism increased, there were more crowds, and they just needed it for safety reasons.
Geoff: Exactly.
Georgie: And then they also mentioned the photo thing, how you try and take a photo but everyone’s taking the same photo, and you end up with a photo of people, like a crowd of people with their, with their cameras up in the air.
Geoff: Yeah, we did go to one of those lookout places, that was just right next to the visitor centre was basically like that I was just, I just sat on like a rock, and I just waited for my cousin and his father and – my uncle, I guess – to take, take their overly generic photos. And then we took like our own selfie kind of thing. And they picked up some rocks, they picked up a rock each, to take home and it was all very uneventful. I wanted to go down, obviously, but none of us were geared to do that. It would have taken too long as well. So I was a bit disappointed that I didn’t get a somewhat interesting perspective of, of Grand Canyon. But the funny thing is, on the way back, my uncle realised he didn’t have the rock anymore that he picked up and I’m like.
Georgie: Oh no.
Geoff: You came here for one thing, dude. One job one job, you pick up the rock, and put it in your pocket. So, my cousin ended up giving his father the rock that he picked up.
Georgie: Well at least he had one.
Geoff: And I didn’t. Yeah, I didn’t pick up a rock because it’s a rock.
Georgie: I mean I like rocks but, I mean, to kind of collect a rock from like a specific place, I don’t know I don’t, I personally don’t get the appeal, like I’m just into rocks because I think they’re, like rock formations are cool and like I like crystal formations and things like that, but sometimes I don’t feel the need to kind of, you know keep hanging on to pieces of the earth.
Geoff: What about energies in rocks, what’s your take on that.
Georgie: What’s my thoughts on that, so like I’m literally I’m literally wearing like a this necklace I’m wearing is what I wear every day. It’s got like a Herkimer Diamond on it, which is like a kind of quartz, that’s from a specific region, I think, in the US, New York State or New Jersey state. But yeah, that’s where the name Herkimer comes from. I actually don’t remember the meaning of the energy associated with this, but I used to think it was quite interesting, because even as a kid I was like, ooh these, these rocks in these quartzes and these gemstones are so pretty and then I found out some of them had spiritual meaning, and I thought it was kind of cool. And I’ve kind of read into it but, um, I don’t feel like I’m into it so deeply that I go to collect them and make like formations and things like that in my living space. It’s nice, like I kind of like it more aesthetically, to be honest,
Geoff: Hehe, yeah.
Georgie: But someone at my company actually did a bit of a like an intro to like crystals, and she actually explained them. I didn’t know this, she explained that in our bodies, we have like natural minerals and that kind of that kind of thing, which are present in these rocks so it’s almost like there’s this, there’s an actual reason why this kind of makes sense, because I know some people think it’s bullshit. But there’s actual reason why like people hang on to.
Geoff: Errrr, uh, not anywhere here, no of course not…
Georgie: Yeah, sure. I mean, yeah, I mean, I understand. I understand the skepticism but it just it made sense that like okay well the reason people believe this is because by carrying these rocks with these minerals in them that you also carry in your body. It’s kind of like, that’s, that’s why you feel a connection, you can use them to amplify like communication and things like that.
Geoff: It resonates.
Georgie: Yeah, so that’s just my, my thought, I generally just think they’re pretty, and if they have that bonus of like, it improves communication, like I won’t strongly believe it but I’ll be like, cool. That’s nice to know.
Geoff: My friends, actually, do you know what your birth crystal is or your birth, rock? gemstone thing is?
Georgie: It’s an emerald. It’s green.
Geoff: It’s an emerald. Yeah. My friends said, I’m not allowed to know what my birthstone is.
Georgie: Wait what?! Wait, you were born in April, right. Yes.
Geoff: Yeah.
Georgie: So I think you’re a diamond, you’re a diamond, if I remember correctly.
Geoff: Yeah, that’s probably why they didn’t want me to know.
Georgie: Oh, why?
Geoff: I guess the, I guess the joke here is that I have, I guess, a, what is the joke.
Georgie: you have expensive tastes and so if you knew your birthstone…
Geoff: I mean, I have expensive taste. Yeah, my birthstone is diamond, it’s kind of self fulfilling. Like I now have a reason for the way that I spend money, expensive things.
Georgie: What’s wrong with that Geoff, go out and buy, I don’t care. Like, I mean, more power to you if…
Geoff: I mean, I mean I don’t, I don’t need a reason to buy things, I think they just found it, obscenely funny that my personality is very close to it, to what people value like diamonds, yeah.
Georgie: That’s so funny, because if it wasn’t, if you were born in another month, would your friend have said the same thing?
Geoff: Dunno, I mean like if I was like emeralds, I guess it’s still a precious stone. I would have liked to have…
Georgie: They’re all precious stones, that’s the idea.
Geoff: Yeah, obsidian isn’t really a precious stone, right?
Georgie: Yeah, but I don’t think obsidian’s a birthstone. But I think… yeah.
Geoff: You can’t be born in the month of an obsidian. That’s ridiculous.
Georgie: So, so if I remember correctly, I think I’m tooting my own horn, I think January is like aquamarine or something. Oh no, it’s garnet sorry, I think January is garnet. February is amethyst. March is, I think March is aquamarine. And then you’ve got diamond, emerald, I think June is pearl. And then I think July is ruby. August is peridot or peridoe? September, might be, ah crap is it like, I don’t know. Is it sapphire or something. I’ve kind of forgotten. Or opal. No, I think September, October, are opal and sapphire I don’t know which one is which. November is topaz.
Geoff: Well September starts with an S, so it must be sapphire, and October starts with O so it’s an opal. We’re gonna go with that.
Georgie: Maybe, yeah. And then yeah I think I think November is Topaz and December is turquoise? So I think some somewhere, there’s some variance I think in some countries or some you know there are alternative birth and I think the standard is like that. And like, yeah, as I said earlier, like I, I just really like rocks and that kind of shit growing up and I was obsessed with this kind of stuff so I think that’s why I just remember them.
Geoff: Yeah, I remember you saying that you’d like rocks, because I started doing this weird thing where naming my electronics, was this thing.
Georgie: Yeah.
Geoff: And I asked you, like what’s a black rock?
Georgie: Yeah!
Geoff: Cuz I think. I think my watch is like Carbon, it’s just a rock. And my laptop’s Obsidian, my trackpad is something.
Georgie: Wow you named your trackpad even.
Geoff: My trackpad’s Apollo.
Georgie: I think my trackpad’s just my name.
Geoff: Yeah, Georgie’s trackpad.
Georgie: Yeah. Yeah. No but I did… I think I didn’t name my AirPods after I got my replacement, I just couldn’t be bothered thinking of something.
Geoff: I named my AirPods Moonstone because they’re like, white?
Georgie: You’re just like, I couldn’t think of another black related thing.
Geoff: It’s not black though, it’s white, so I couldn’t name it a black thing.
Georgie: Oh so you even actually reflect the colour in the actual device. Oh I thought you just like because you like black you just, yeah.
Geoff: Oh no, I mean, everything I own is practically black so maybe? My headphones are called Stealth, purely because they noise cancel, and they’re not bulky.
Georgie: That’s cool.
Geoff: So, shrug emoji. Yeah, so I went around and named all my stuff but I don’t think it’s, I didn’t name my keyboard, though. I ran out of black things to name it.
Georgie: That’s cool. But you, but you named a trackpad and you didn’t name the keyboard.
Geoff: Oh, yeah. I think I got over the naming thing when it got to my keyboard, because I had named everything else and I was like, why am I, naming my electronics that seems strange.
Georgie: Well I did that too, but mine are named after like famous women in like STEM actually apart from my 2015 MacBook, which is named after a guy, which is named after a geologist named Nicholas Shackleton.
Geoff: Right, right. Yep.
Georgie: But yeah, all of my other my other devices which I don’t have my I’ve got like my work laptop. I have my watch and my phone. I think that’s about it that I named, and yeah, they’re all named after women in STEM.
Geoff: Oh, my, phone’s name is the Japanese word for owl. I just like the sound of it.
Georgie: A black owl.
Geoff: Fukuro.
Georgie: Oh that‘s cool.
Geoff: Yeah, it just sounds nice. I’ve done that I like owls, so it’s nothing to do with it being black. I don’t know if there is a black owl. But they’re, they’re like nighttime creatures, they’re pretty stealthy.
Georgie: Makes sense.
Geoff: So yeah, and maybe at that time I just liked the word Fukuro. Yeah, I was telling someone about how like I’ve been to Japan three times, the next time, I’m leaving the country is to Japan, I just, I think it’s just worth, worth more than going further away, you know, it’s a five hour flight. It’s the best country, arguably.
Georgie: An enriching experience.
Geoff: Yeah. And why would I spend 24 hours on a plane going to America when I can go to an infinitely better place, like Japan.
Georgie: I guess America’s got its good points as well I mean there’s like, literally, all of these different states and each of them are different. I think that’s what probably is most interesting to me about America is that literally every state has like a whole different vibe.
Geoff: I guess it’s kind of like Europe.
Georgie: So, if you wanted to, like, yeah. Yeah.
Geoff: Okay, okay, I can see 24 hours on a plane, being worth 52 different cultures. It’s just got to have to balance the amount of time you’re there.
Georgie: Yeah, I mean, yeah it’s like I wouldn’t go there for. Oh so, like in 2016 we had this company like financial year kickoff and the company actually flew us all to San Diego, but we were only there for like, like three and a half days so it didn’t feel worth it. And that was my first time going to the US. So, like, I would not recommend flying that far
Geoff: Three days. That’s ridiculous.
Georgie: Yes. Yeah, I mean it was just because it was a company thing I guess. Yeah, I, I didn’t have enough leave to sort of stay there, more days, or like go there earlier or stay afterwards, although some other people did. But, um, yeah, I think if you’re going to fly that far, you want to make it a worthwhile trip. So like every time we’ve gone to Europe, like we’ve gone there for like four or five weeks to kind of cover a lot of ground.
Geoff: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Georgie: I wonder how people feel about Australia, like if they’re far from this big island, like if they’re like, oh you know what would make it worth it to go to Australia because there’s also that misconception that, that it’s easy to like to travel around and we’re like no, we’re the size of 50 Texases plus, like, the distance between capital cities is like, you cannot drive, and it’s boring.
Geoff: Generally what I’ve heard from American celebrities, that kind of visit for conventions and stuff is that they, they absolutely love Australia. The problem is that it’s very far away. And the only reason why they come over to Australia is when they’re being flown out for events like this, doing it on their own time, is pretty difficult, apparently.
Georgie: Yeah that doesn’t surprise me.
Geoff: So, I think they have a fairly. Yeah, they have a fairly positive vibe from Australia, it’s just very difficult to get to the other side of the world.
Georgie: It’s just so goddamn far.
Geoff: It’s just so damn far.
Georgie: I want to go back to the the bucket list thing.
Geoff: Yeah.
Georgie: What, what’s your what’s your thoughts on bucket lists, in general, do you have one. Yeah.
Geoff: Not really. Bucket lists in general to me I kind of like… you, something that you need to feel. I don’t know, feel like you should complete, and, whenever you look at something it’s incompleted. I don’t know, maybe it’s motivating, maybe it’s not. I don’t have a bucket list, because I guess I’m rambling about trying to figure out why. And I can’t come up with a good one.
Georgie: So I…
Geoff: I guess. I mean, actually, wait, wait, so technically I guess what I, when I say, when I think of a bucket list, I think, you know what, when I have time slash when I have money, I will go complete all of these things, but for me right now, I would if I want to go do it, I just kind of go do it.
Georgie: Yeah so your bucket list is kind of, has kind of got realistic things on it that you want to achieve, but at the right time, and so you might not even have that in a specific list. It’s just maybe in the back of your mind.
Geoff: Nah, I don’t even have that. I think.
Georgie: You don’t even have. Okay, all right, but like I can understand what you mean because –
Geoff: I’ve done a lot of things though, so maybe I just finished all of the stuff that some people might think that is on their bucket lists, and I’ve just kind of lived it. So, as a 100 privileged, dude.
Georgie: No, but I think I think I kind of get what you’re saying is that like sometimes people say things like I want to travel to Europe or like the US or you know I want to go to so and so country. Maybe they want to do a hike in a certain place or something like that. But this is stuff that you and I kind of, I do regularly but we make time for, prioritise when we go travel, that kind of thing. And I also find that people’s bucket list items like they may not really, like, I don’t really align with them for example, like, maybe some people have “go skydiving” and like I’m not super interested in that, like it’d be cool, but I’m not, like, oh I absolutely must do that before I die kind of thing.
Geoff: I think it might be more about how I’ve, well, I think, I live a lot in the present, so I don’t really think about wanting to do stuff in the future. So when you say bucket list, I think, basically nothing. Like there’s nothing I kind of really really really want to do that I put on a list and then prioritise and then work my ass off to go do. If an opportunity arises that I could do something cool. Then I’ll go do it.
Georgie: Yep.
Geoff: I don’t, I don’t know. That seems kind of like a lazy, lazy bucket list, maybe.
Georgie: No, I mean, I kind of see what you mean like I, I think I also spend a lot of my time, I’m a bit of a live in the present, live in the present kind of person. So I’m not thinking about, like, I’m not thinking a lot about stuff I want to do in the future.
Geoff: Yeah, like kind of focus on the things you’ve achieved and the things that you’ve already done, and say, yeah that was cool. I actually, I actually did it.
Georgie: I’m glad I did that.
Geoff: I’m glad I did that. So stuff like, you know, when I went to work in San Francisco, it’s not like I had a bucket list, saying, I really want to go work overseas. I did think it was a cool thing to do, to go work overseas but when the opportunity arise, I just knew that I wanted to do it so I went and did it.
Georgie: So like, I don’t, I tried to like a bucket list when I was like 18 or something like with my ex, and I think the problem at the time was I think we talked a little bit 50 things to sort of do together. But I still lived with my parents at the time so the fact that I lived with them and my parents, like I had quite a strict upbringing, meant that anything I kind of wanted to put on this list, had to be within the confines of, you know, my, my living spaces, sorry, my living conditions and my life at the time. So I had this really silly item on the bucket list which was to eat a whole lettuce in one day.
Geoff: Haha.
Georgie: But it just had, things like that and I found myself trying to fill this out with just really arbitrary things just to say I could do it, and that’s where I think, that’s where I think I drew the line, it was like, I’m putting things on this list, for the sake of putting them on the list, for the sake of ticking them off. And, yeah, as I got older and I discovered minimalism and intentional living and living a bit like being more present, I kind of felt that there was less kind of need or desire for this kind of bucket list. But that said, there is one thing I do want to do that, I guess I could consider a list item that I just still haven’t done yet and that’s to go in a hot air balloon. But yeah, one day, one day.
Geoff: Yeah, but the thing is like when you are trying to do that bucket list of 50 things. It seemed like just things to do, rather than, you know, a bucket list is supposed to be outrageous. It’s supposed to be things that you possibly could do, but right now, cannot do? Like going in a hot air balloon, you’re just like, well, that’s something I can do.
Georgie: Needs some preparation.
Geoff: Needs some preparation. Needs some planning, and then eventually you get to do the thing.
Georgie: Hey Geoff, you know, I just remembered, didn’t, didn’t we say we were gonna, like, get abs by like 2020?
Geoff: Oh yeah. Abs, abs by 2020 Yeah, I guess that is a bucket list item isn’t it. Well, I don’t know I feel like I don’t, I don’t want things like hardcore enough to think about it as a bucket list, I’ll say, sure, I want to go overseas and work. Or even move overseas to Europe, or move to Japan or something as a, as a bucket list item. But the thing is I’m not hell bent on accomplishing these things. My perspective is, sure it’s, it’ll be good if I get the opportunity, and I will seek the opportunity, but if it’s not there, I just won’t do it. And I’m perfectly content, not completing – completing or checking these off, as they are just simply a, a nice to have, I guess, if you wanted to put like a spin on it. I don’t know, not committed.
Georgie: Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe people put a lot of. Yeah, maybe people set themselves up for a bit of maybe disappointment if they do put something on their bucket list that’s not unachievable, like obviously requires hard work, or maybe the goal is so the item is so specific, you know maybe it’s like I want to live in, specifically, some town in the middle of France or something like, but you know, what if you get an opportunity to live in, just Paris? Not like a really unique town or whatever? Like would you be bummed, would you consider that a failure? And I don’t know like, it probably depends on how you defined the bucket list item in the first place, but then like to be so fixated, I mean – in my opinion – like if this was me, I would be so fixated on, like, trying to live in this one specific place that I wouldn’t appreciate, like any opportunities that even come close. And I don’t know, I think that makes me just not really want to pursue these kinds of super specific life goals, so to speak.
Geoff: Yeah, like, yeah. So someone says, oh, if I was to say that I wanted to go skydiving, I’d go and plan to skydive. I’d say, oh look, this is a, how much does it cost to skydive. What’s the calendar like? How far ahead do I have to book? Do I have a friend to go with? Ask the friend, they say yeah, sure, why not. And then we book a date. This is, this is exactly what I would do –
Georgie: Hypothetical.
Geoff: Hypothetical, if I wanted to go skydiving. So, my bucket list items would have to be outrageous, I think, to really make me unable to accomplish it. And, I guess like owning a jet, but I feel like I can’t justify what I need a jet for. Yeah, I don’t want very many things outside of my current life, I guess I’m way too content, I am content with what I have so I don’t need a bucket list.
Georgie: what you already have. But that’s not a bad thing. That’s not a bad thing either. Yeah, plus it’s a bit of a minimalism thing isn’t it, like just to appreciate, appreciate what you have.
Geoff: Yeah, not a bad thing. I agree. Yeah. So I think yeah bucket lists, I kind of agree if people hold themselves to a bucket list it could end up being like a psychological spiral of oh no my life’s a failure because I haven’t finished this bucket list.
Georgie: I didn’t achieve these…
Geoff: I didn’t achieve these things, rather than just being kind of content with what you have. And yeah.
Georgie: Or even what you’ve experienced like in the past.
Geoff: Or what have you experienced yeah.
Georgie: Like, yeah, and some of it, like, I think maybe a lot of us have experiences from the past that we didn’t expect, you know would come up like there’s no way we could have planned for certain events in our lives, and we might like just be really appreciative that we maybe, you know, we had a good opportunity or maybe we met a really nice person that made an impact on us or just, yeah, I mean, I know people have this thing, some people have this thing, about being content with now – and what you have or whatever – but I think we also forget tend to forget experiences in the past that have shaped us to become who we are like, today, because that’s just as important.
Geoff: Yeah, I know some people who do. Do I know some people who do this?
Georgie: Me? Hahaha.
Geoff: Oh, anyways, maybe it’s a good idea to do retrospectives on your life. Just do a retro on your life.
Georgie: Oh, right. Yeah.
Geoff: Life retros.
Georgie: So I’ve heard I’ve heard people do this in their relationships, I don’t know if I like super take it that far but they do sort of a weekly retrospectives on how everything’s going and I mean you do you. I’m not really into that, but I can see why it works.
Geoff: Yeah, yeah.
Georgie: Hey Geoff, maybe we should do a retro on our friendship.
Geoff: Oh, that’s dangerous. This is dangerous. Bring out the kanban board! Bring out the sticky notes. That’s…
Georgie: Let’s vote on which ones we want to talk about in this lean coffee.
Geoff: Yeah. Um, what went well…
Georgie: Does anyone actually understand this?
Geoff: What didn’t go well. What should we start doing. I’ve had some fun ones actually, of retros, like, this is the house of sticks and straw and and brick.
Georgie: Oh yeah. Like I find retros valuable. So I do like them. I do like them, like, in terms of, you know, looking forward, improving, like the team communication and things like that valuable. I do find them valuable.
Geoff: But yeah, as always, do whatever the hell you want. Make a bucket list, don’t make a bucket list. What was the other thing. Stones.
Georgie: Do you like rocks as much as I do?
Geoff: Yeah. What do you guys think about rocks? Do you like your birthstones?
Georgie: What’s your favourite rock.
Geoff: We’d like to know. Do you have a bucket list? Do you like bucket lists? It can be productive, we’re not saying that they all suck. But, some do suck.
Georgie: Yeah.
Geoff: Namely yours.
Georgie: Hahaha.
Geoff: With that said, join us next time. You can – next week. You can follow us on @ToastRoastPod on Instagram and Twitter, most – more so the Twitter than the Instagram, please. And as always, stay chilly. And I don’t know – yeah. See you next time. Ah man, I didn’t say “the big ones”. OK I’m gonna, one second. Yeah. And you know, follow us on all the big ones – Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Twitter.
Georgie: And the Big Pineapple.
Geoff: See you next time!
Georgie: We’ll see you next time!