Substitutes for household cleaning products, partners at Christmas parties, and obnoxiously promoting our podcast if we can. Views are our own and not of our employer’s. 🙃
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Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:09
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host, Georgie and as usual, I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:17
Hello, hello. Hello.
Georgie 0:21
So you were just having one of those Weis bars, those dessert bars?
Geoff 0:25
Yeah. What you hating on Weis for?
Georgie 0:27
I wasn’t hating on it, I was just like—what did I say? What?
Geoff 0:30
Haha, yeah, what kind of, “what’s this wretched snack?”
Georgie 0:36
Which one was it? Because the one I had is the mango one.
Geoff 0:39
This one is, it literally just says “real fruit, real flavour”. That’s it.
Georgie 0:46
Don’t they all say that.
Geoff 0:47
Yeah, it doesn’t have the flavour on it. But I’m pretty sure it’s mango. The box is somewhere. But yeah, it’s it’s mango. God, so, we we were, we were doing grocery stuff. And we have gotten into getting direct-to-boot.
Georgie 1:07
Oh, yeah. So you drive up?
Geoff 1:09
Yeah.
Georgie 1:09
And they put the—also they call it a trunk in the US, the trunk of your car.
Geoff 1:16
Yeah.
Georgie 1:16
Direct-to-trunk.
Geoff 1:16
Direct-to-trunk? Sorry. Yep. That’s true, hey. And the whole process is kind of cool. I guess. Like you tell them you’re on your way—you pick a window. So we picked 2 to 3pm because we’ve got a whole bunch of other shit to do this morning. And we, you rock up and you tell them you’re there and you pick a, a parking bay or a spot as some, may people, some people may call it.
Georgie 1:46
Are these specially marked?
Geoff 1:47
Yep. They’re like green. They’ve got a number on it. Hey, presto. So we get there. We’ve been doing this for a couple months, actually. Probably like six, six months. Every two weeks, I guess. So you rock up. And then you sit there in your car and you wait for them to roll a trolley out with your stuff. And they put it in the boot for you. This is where shit goes wrong.
Georgie 2:18
Right.
Geoff 2:19
We have a bag—we have a big kind of like insulated esque bag. We’re, we’re talking like, maybe 40 centimetres by 30.
Georgie 2:30
Like a esky size?
Geoff 2:32
Like a, like a big, like it’s kind of like an esky size, yeah,
Georgie 2:36
Wait we have to address the esky—
Geoff 2:37
A soft bag, right.
Georgie 2:39
Because Australians are the only ones who call them eskies.
Geoff 2:42
What do they call them, chilly bins? In, in in New Zealand?
Georgie 2:51
So it’s like one of those things like the, where the, it’s the name of brand, right?
Geoff 2:54
Ah like Band Aids.
Georgie 2:56
Kleenex. Jacuzzi.
Geoff 2:57
Yeah, Band Aids. It’s called a chiller hard cooler, but from Bunnings.
Georgie 3:04
Cooler box.
Geoff 3:05
Cooler box. Yeah? Yeah.
Georgie 3:09
Yeah. Anyway.
Geoff 3:10
Anyways.
Georgie 3:11
You have a bag that is like a, like an insulated bag.
Geoff 3:13
Kind of.
Georgie 3:14
That size.
Geoff 3:14
Yeah.
Georgie 3:15
Yeah.
Geoff 3:16
So it’s not 26 litres is probably a bit bigger than 26 litres or wider. Same same dimensions, anyways, so we have one and I like open it up, you know, so that they can put stuff in it. And my god the general like, I don’t know, they just have probably got no pride in their craft because you go, I go in there after they’ve chucked all the stuff in. By the way, so the boot, I can’t see the boot from, or the trunk from my driver’s seat. So it’s always a surprise.
Georgie 3:52
Can anybody?
Geoff 3:53
Oh yeah, maybe some people if the seats are down—
Georgie 3:56
Maybe you could in a ute.
Geoff 3:57
The ute. Actually I don’t think people in a ute could probably see.
Georgie 4:01
By the way, utility truck.
Geoff 4:02
Utility truck. Trying to be as inclusive and trans, and and international as possible here. Yeah, true. I don’t know if anybody can see the boot from their driver’s seat. Anyways, so—
Georgie 4:19
Wait, hatchback!
Geoff 4:22
Can you see it? No, because you still have three seats behind you in hatchbacks.
Georgie 4:27
What about those like SUVs that have like many seats, but the seat is—
Geoff 4:32
SUV?
Georgie 4:32
Is it an SUV? I’m not sure.
Geoff 4:37
Yeah I think, I know what you’re talking about. You can see it like some cars. You can see it if you’re sitting in the backseat. You can look over and then you’d see the trunk. I know Toyota, is it a Toyota, not Corolla—
Georgie 4:50
Like your average—
Geoff 4:51
Odyssey. Yeah, that’s the Odyssey.
Georgie 4:53
Average sedan you can’t see it.
Geoff 4:55
Odyssey car. The Honda Odyssey. This, this thing, if they have a photo of it, we used to have this when we were kids when mum needed to people move the shit out of us. But you can like if you’re sitting in the backseat, you can look over and you can see the boot, there’s just no cover on it, as people kind of expect most cars to have covers over their boot. There it is. So you can see how there’s just nothing there, you can just directly look down. And if the seats were down, you could probably see all the way through.
Georgie 5:32
Yeah, so anyway.
Geoff 5:34
Anyway.
Georgie 5:34
Put shit in, in a bad way.
Geoff 5:36
So we get, you get some varying results. I will get to today’s, but generally, you know, when you buy some frozen things, and you buy some cool things, milk and eggs and stuff like that. Where do you think these should go in? In this scenario? I’ve got a boot, I’ve got the 70% of the boot, is this bag? And where do you think it should go?
Georgie 6:01
(laughs)
Geoff 6:06
Well, take a stab in the dark.
Georgie 6:08
I’m gonna, look, I’m gonna assume if I’m this person, and the person driving the car, who owns the car, drove up, has prepared this very large, cooler bag in the back. I’m just going to put the cold stuff in there. Heck.
Geoff 6:24
Yeah.
Georgie 6:24
I might put, I might put as much as I can in there, given that you sit it took up 70% of the damn thing. But also, that’s because I was thinking, if all of the groceries that this person ordered fits in there that it would surely kind of help it stopp rolling around in the back of car.
Geoff 6:42
Absolute genius level stuff here people. Because nine times out of 10, they’re not in the bag, they’ll put everything—they’ll put cereal, they’ll put all the dry stuff, they’ll put everything but the frozen things in the bag. It’s honestly astonishing. And look, I don’t expect you to be neat about it. Like obviously there’s a lot of groceries and there’s not a lot of like dividers or anything to keep things you know, like divided and stuff, but at the very least frozen stuff in the bag. But today, today was next level. They had, we had like bought a bunch of onions and carrots and all that kind of like general stuff you put in those loose bags, you know the, the—
Georgie 7:42
Plastic?
Geoff 7:43
The plastic little bags, and then you kind of pick up the onions and you put them in the plastic bag you tie it up, right. So not only were these bags not tied up, they they were thrown behind, behind the cooler bag.
Georgie 7:58
Just rolling about.
Geoff 7:59
They roll about everywhere. So now I’ve got a bunch of onion skin like debris all over my boots. And we bought two litres of vinegar, and I’ll get to that later, but two liters of vinegar—
Georgie 8:13
Oh yeah, yeah.
Geoff 8:13
And the cap I think was just slightly loose. So now I’ve got vinegar smell in the in the car. So all in all—
Georgie 8:22
Greatest.
Geoff 8:24
It’s the greatest pack ever.
Georgie 8:26
Speaking of vinegar, I went, we went and bought some recently because we’ve run out. Now the reason we ran out it’s not because I like making a fuck ton of pickles or anything like that.
Geoff 8:36
Oh is that what vinegar is used for?
Georgie 8:38
Well that’s how you pickle stuff.
Geoff 8:40
Ah.
Georgie 8:41
You vinegarise them. Is vinegarise a word? Probably not.
Geoff 8:43
Yeah, like energise but with vinegar.
Georgie 8:46
So I don’t know if you’ve ever had like a like a bug problem or you need to clean a drain and you really just don’t want to buy like commercial products.
Geoff 8:54
Drano! Remember Drano?
Georgie 8:55
Yep, yeah, that shit. We bought that too. But I like to try a natural method if possible. Instead of going over to the grocery store and then buying something, or not even grocery, supermarket, to buy something chemical. So vinegar is a good thing. Because apparently you can get that, you can put that in bicarb to clean a drain and it does the explosion thing.
Geoff 9:17
Haha, explosion thing.
Georgie 9:21
For those unaware, I think this was a common science experiment in school where you put bicarb soda which is used to bake cookies as well I think?
Geoff 9:31
Yeah.
Georgie 9:31
It’s used in baking. So you put that in the drain. And then you, well you should generally pour a bunch of boiling hot water down the drain first to kind of break up the the gunk and stuff that’s in there.
Geoff 9:45
What kind of gunk are we talking about Georgie? You’re gonna have to explain it
Georgie 9:49
I was gonna say, well, we had a bit of a bug, yeah, like there’s those tiny tiny little flying little bugs.
Geoff 9:56
Oh, the gnats?
Georgie 9:57
Those—
Geoff 9:58
Are they called gnats? Are they fruit flies? Man.
Georgie 10:01
I’m not even sure what they call them, gnats sounds about right.
Geoff 10:04
We’ve we’ve had a couple of random small things flying around... fruit...
Georgie 10:08
Effectively harmless, but rather annoying.
Geoff 10:10
Yeah.
Georgie 10:11
There was no kind of smell or whatever in the drain. By the way, what I’m talking about does not apply to when hair gets, loose hair gets stuck in the drain.
Geoff 10:19
Oh, okay.
Georgie 10:19
If you ever get loose hair stuck in the drain, you need to get that out with either a pair of disposable chopsticks or your hands or something. Because shit like, I don’t think shit like Drano actually works effectively.
Geoff 10:31
So you probably put something down there to like disintegrate hair, I should probably check that actually.
Georgie 10:37
You can’t. Probably. Should check it out. I don’t know. But the main thing is just kind of general build up of like maybe soap scum, etc. in the drain. You should pour boiling hot water down it before you put, basically a cup, or a cup. But proportionally, depending on how big the drain is, if you’re talking about a shower, cup is gen, is generous enough. If you’re talking about a sink, probably don’t put that much because you probably have a foamy explosion all over your bathroom floor, just put bicarb, like a cup of bicarb soda in the drain and then get the vinegar and just start pouring it in. Wait and it should foam up because of a chemical reaction and kind of soften up all the gunk in there.
Geoff 11:21
That’s pretty good. I mean.
Georgie 11:22
So is that what you’re gonna do with the vinegar?
Geoff 11:24
Well. Kinda? I just did. So um, I was scrolling Instagram, and I’m, I’ve successfully gotten rid of all the keyboard stuff. Well, most of the keyboard stuff because because I was looking at mechanical keyboards and stuff. Oh, right. I got my new key caps.
Georgie 11:45
Woo.
Geoff 11:46
I’ll say, I’ll send you send you a photo, but any case, new keycaps and right, so I’m scrolling through Instagram, and now they’ve replaced my Reels. Because the Reels used to be all just people assembling keyboards, and I was like, I don’t need to see that anymore. So I kept like, you know, getting rid of it with “not interested” and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden all the reels turned into like, hot dude, either guys doing weird stuff to hot chicks or hot chicks doing weird stuff. And I’m like, this is also very boring. Please get it out of my feed. And then, and then it started replaying, and then I got a Reel with this guy who does like clean, household cleaning hacks with that he basically uses vinegar and lemons for everything.
Georgie 12:37
Yeah. For cleaning everything right?
Geoff 12:40
He does general weird stuff. Like also preservation, like how to preserve fruits and veg longer. One of the things was you could I think you you wet a carrot and then you put it in, you wrap it in a paper towel and then you put it in a Ziploc bag and it will last like two weeks or something.
Georgie 13:04
Wait, why? What?
Geoff 13:06
I don’t know. I don’t know. I think it’s something about keeping the moisture. Anyways, so he does this one for bathroom like glass soap scum.
Georgie 13:18
Scum. Yeah.
Geoff 13:19
Yeah. And it involves involves vinegar, and then putting like, I think he puts like you said bicarb on a half a lemon and he uses the lemon to wipe the wipe the glass that had been sprayed, that you spray with some kind of vinegar vinegar solution. So I’m like, alright, let’s get some vinegar. Because—
Georgie 13:40
I’m surprised you don’t know this as like a minimalist, though. Like, a lot of cleaning products can be like replaced with just vinegar and lemon.
Geoff 13:50
I knew this existed as a concepts. Was I game enough to try—
Georgie 13:56
To try it?
Geoff 13:58
Any of this? No.
Georgie 14:00
Secretly Geoff has like 10 bottles of Drano in the kitchen.
Geoff 14:06
Nah, I’ve got this Koh thing. Have you heard of it? It’s this. It’s this really upmarket looking cleaning supply thing.
Georgie 14:16
It looks like a scam considering what we just talked about. It looks like a fancy cleaning kit.
Geoff 14:21
It really, it probably is, probably just vinegar and bicarb. I think they even show you, I mean it’s like just cheap really. They give me a whole kit. Like it’s literally like a whole mop. You get a bottle, you get some solution you get like the pad, so all in all $110—
Georgie 14:40
You know what...
Geoff 14:40
For like all this stuff was reasonable.
Georgie 14:42
You can just make what you just said, vinegar and like lemon and bicarb and just resell the product.
Geoff 14:48
Yeah, I mean, that’s the thing. All of these things I can refill with whatever I want, so I can make a vinegar, water bicarb like solution and pour it in instead so I don’t have to buy their specific like liquid, which I have no idea what, I’d probably look at the ingredients of this. But this is cool. They have a bottle, they have one of those spray bottles that you can like turn upside down and spray at the same time so it can work 360. So I thought that was kind of cool. But I’m sure you can go to Woolies and buy something that’s infinitely cheaper. I don’t care. So.
Georgie 15:24
You’re just wasting your money, man.
Geoff 15:26
Nah.
Georgie 15:27
Hey, it’s 20% off. Alright, I’m on that shit. Nah.
Geoff 15:30
That’s the that’s the thing, right? You look at you look at stuff and it’s on sale and you’re like, hey, why not? I’ll just buy it. But then you’re like, well, I could have saved 100%. If I did get this one thing. It’s half the reason why we do direct-to-boot now is because when we walk up and down the aisles looking for shit. We just keep piling on more stuff. It just gets out of hand.
Georgie 15:54
Yeah you gotta be better at it. Like I mean, I’m terrible at it. I always go hey, let’s go to the confectionery—but wait, is what they call it everywhere? Confectionery aisle?
Geoff 16:02
Confectionery.
Georgie 16:04
Candy and stuff. And that’s often a well, yeah, it’s often bad because I see something that’s marked down or on sale that I like, and then it will entice me to buy it. But that said, I also don’t buy candy when it’s full price most of the time. I don’t like to keep I don’t like to keep too much in the pantry because I will just eat it and snack and it’s not great.
Geoff 16:30
Yeah. Yeah. That’s kind of like a good thing about offices that are not your office, because like, there’s like zero snacks in those of, in most offices. You go into work—
Georgie 16:43
What?
Geoff 16:43
And you’re like—
Georgie 16:44
Ours has so—
Geoff 16:45
That’s what I’m saying, offices that are not yours, are not filled with snacks.
Georgie 16:50
No, they are. What do you mean? Oh, not—
Geoff 16:52
Not your office.
Georgie 16:54
Personally?
Geoff 16:54
Personally your office?
Georgie 16:57
Like the company I work for office?
Geoff 16:58
Yes. Yes, that one. Except that one. Everybody else’s office is not stocked to the nines with like a chef making, I don’t know. macarons. Which I had one today.
Georgie 17:10
They’re gone. I told you.
Geoff 17:12
Oh right.
Georgie 17:12
Like they had to, they had, they left, the chefs left.
Geoff 17:16
Well, I mean, when you hire them for one day, a month, it’s probably not worth it.
Georgie 17:20
It was like two days a week. But it was also just because we weren’t coming in either. Also, we’re, they’ve closed some of our offices in the US except for one.
Geoff 17:30
Ooh, layoffs.
Georgie 17:32
It’s...
Geoff 17:33
Everybody’s getting them.
Georgie 17:33
I don’t know about that. Not saying anything.
Geoff 17:37
I mean, they closed the office. People work there. Right?
Georgie 17:40
People weren’t going into the office.
Geoff 17:42
Oh, okay. That’s fair.
Georgie 17:43
Because we were, they were like, we’re like using this hybrid model where it’s so like, unless it’s mandated by your manager, you can come in, you don’t have to come into the office.
Geoff 17:52
Yeah.
Georgie 17:54
But we I guess that means our office might be quote, unquote, under threat if you don’t continue to use it, which to be honest, doesn’t bother me immensely. But occasionally I like to talk to people.
Geoff 18:08
But the nostalgia.
Georgie 18:09
Although at times I hate people. Yeah.
Geoff 18:12
The interesting thing is on the reverse side, my company is thinking of opening up like a, not like a big office, a small office. I don’t know what they call it either hub, satellite or something like that. Because they’re based in Melbourne, they’re going to open up a small co working space, I guess you could call it, in Sydney. So that, like the 90-odd Sydney people can kind of use it.
Georgie 18:38
So it’s not like a permanent desk thing. But you just come in and—
Geoff 18:41
Yeah, I they did a survey. They were like, What are you, what would you most use the office for? What would you least use it for? So maybe they they’ll come up with like, just have a couple of meeting rooms and some like, co working spaces. And that’s it. You don’t need like the hot desking you don’t need, I don’t know, full floor. From building.
Georgie 19:04
Yeah. Interesting.
Geoff 19:05
Yeah. So, they’re, actually recently they’ve been discussing the Christmas party.
Georgie 19:14
Oh, yeah. We’re having one.
Geoff 19:16
Yeah, you didn’t have one last year?
Georgie 19:18
No, did you? I can’t even remember,
Geoff 19:21
I’ve changed job too many times. I don’t get Christmas parties.
Georgie 19:24
Oh okay, well, we essentially haven’t had one since before 2020 before the pandemic. So this will be our first one within quite some time.
Geoff 19:32
Woah, you gonna go?
Georgie 19:34
Yeah, cuz a lot of people have joined the company in the past couple of years and some of them I’ve never even met. So I think it’d be a good opportunity to, like, get to know some people especially because we also have a couple of remotes. I don’t know if they’re coming, but like when I—sorry, when I say remote, I mean outside of Sydney...
Geoff 19:55
It’s us versus the remotes. (laughs)
Georgie 19:59
Socialise to my, whatever my capacity is on that day.
Geoff 20:05
Yeah, the, so they’re based in Melbourne and that’s where the big party is. There is a web conference called Web Directions Summit coming up. And it’s in it’s on the same day as the one in Melbourne, the as the party in Melbourne.
Georgie 20:24
Right.
Geoff 20:24
So it got a bit dicey where the people in Melbourne who are coming up to Sydney for the conference can’t make it back. Or, might try and make it back in time for the party in Melbourne.
Georgie 20:37
Yeah, yeah. As someone who has decided to not go to that for various reasons. I’m just going to—
Geoff 20:46
(laugh) Wink wink, nudge nudge.
Georgie 20:48
I’m just gonna watch, watch the drama unfold and get out the popcorn.
Geoff 20:52
Oh okay.
Georgie 20:54
But I feel like—
Geoff 20:55
Did you get virtual tickets? Can you actually attend virtually now?
Georgie 20:58
I may actually have a, what do you call it, the pass that you, the virtual pass?
Geoff 21:03
Cool.
Georgie 21:04
Access to all online recorded things? I think I might have bought that for this year. So maybe I’ll—
Geoff 21:11
What do you mean, maybe you bought it? It’s like $1,000.
Georgie 21:16
I, my company would have reimbursed, reimbursed it. But I just don’t remember if that includes that conference.
Geoff 21:24
Oh okay.
Georgie 21:25
It’s towards the end of the year, so I don’t know if it’s included, because they’ll obviously format it and then upload it and it won’t be available until early next year. So I’m not sure if my access expires at that point.
Geoff 21:36
Oh, interesting, right.
Georgie 21:37
Either way, I had a brief look at the the schedule and I wasn’t, I was, there was nothing there that I really felt like I was gonna get a lot out of like some of the speakers I’ve seen before. I’m really familiar with them work and whatnot. So that’s just me.
Geoff 21:53
I just want to get free shit. So I’m gonna go.
Georgie 21:57
Wait, what do you mean get free shit?
Geoff 21:59
Like, no, I mean, it’s like a free ticket. Free ticket to to go to the conference.
Georgie 22:07
By your company?
Geoff 22:08
By work.
Georgie 22:08
Yeah.
Geoff 22:10
But—
Georgie 22:11
Make sure you make, sure you plug our podcast while you’re there. Just super obnoxiously.
Geoff 22:16
Yeah, I mean, I need to I probably what I’ll need to do is get like a sticker of our podcast and put it on my shirt. And like, market.
Georgie 22:25
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 22:25
Market our...
Georgie 22:26
Yeah get your ass on Red Bubble. Yeah. And get those stickers printed.
Geoff 22:31
No, but—
Georgie 22:31
Is it Red Bubble? I just—
Geoff 22:33
Yeah, I think Red Bubble, oh there’s Sticker Mule. We’re not sponsored. But that’s true. We can get our logo printed on a sticker.
Georgie 22:41
(laughs) Our logo is so shit. Wait, we’re not allowed to roast the podcast.
Geoff 22:48
No, we can’t roast our own podcast. That’d be insane. So yeah, so getting a free ticket out there, which is cool. I think it was like, I haven’t been to the summit, or any of the Web Directions, or any paid conference in over like, a decade. I think the last one decade. Yeah.
Georgie 23:07
Really?
Geoff 23:07
Like every other company I had been to, which is like four companies, five companies have all like cheaped out. So I’m pretty, pretty keen to get back into it. Also, there’s a bunch of people from Perth going. So, and I met them at the last summit 10 years ago, I get to, get to—
Georgie 23:29
That’s a long time.
Geoff 23:30
Yeah, catch up with them. And so basically, the they decided there’ll be a Sydney party for the end of year as well.
Georgie 23:40
Yeah. Is it on the same day, or just—
Geoff 23:42
Well the choices were the were the same day as the Melbourne one or like, like a week later. So—
Georgie 23:51
Yeah. I don’t think it matters.
Geoff 23:53
So yeah. So my, my partner’s office party, which, which allows partners to go to is on the same alternative day, like, the week later is the same day as that party. So I’m like maybe it’s best if it’s on the same day as the conference because then I could just go from the conference straight to the straight to the party. Conference ends at like five o’clock. So it’s all happening.
Georgie 24:24
Yeah it’s like a normal, it’s like a normal workday, the conference.
Geoff 24:27
Yeah.
Georgie 24:27
Like normal working hours.
Geoff 24:29
Yeah. So—
Georgie 24:30
I found it interesting how some companies don’t allow partners, but it also depends.
Geoff 24:36
Yeah, it’s expensive, right? If like, you have 1000 people times two, boom, 2000.
Georgie 24:43
I guess I didn’t really think about this because for me it was for more of a venue perspective. Maybe?
Geoff 24:47
Yeah, true. COVID.
Georgie 24:49
So in Nick’s company has never historically allowed partners but they’ve, they’re a pretty small company. So I kinda, I kind of get it like they probably don’t have a lot of—
Geoff 24:59
Yeah.
Georgie 25:00
...budget or whatever. My company early on, when I started, they didn’t allow partners and then they and then they didn’t, and this year they are. But I think Nick has like some some company activity on the same day as my Christmas party and I was like, Hey, you, you’re heard invited, I mean like you don’t have to come, I just I just put in an RSVP saying you would come.
Geoff 25:26
Yeah.
Georgie 25:29
The weird thing is like—
Geoff 25:30
Yeah.
Georgie 25:30
He said, I guess it’s he thinks it’s weird, a little bit. Because talking to people you don’t really know.
Geoff 25:38
Yeah. I agree. I agree. So we’ll see how this works out. And when I rock up to my partner’s Christmas get together party thing.
Georgie 25:52
Just make sure you plug the podcast.
Geoff 25:53
Yeah. 100%.
Georgie 25:55
Obnoxiously.
Geoff 25:56
Yeah. The thing is, they’re a consulting firm. So I’m going to have some fun talking to more consultants. Oh, yeah. In other, in other news, I’ll be flying down to Melbourne. for like, four days.
Georgie 26:16
Wait, when are you going to Melbourne? I’m going to Melbourne?
Geoff 26:20
December?
Georgie 26:23
Yes, I’m going in December?
Geoff 26:25
Well, I mean, I see you here. So really, no point catching up in Melbourne.
Georgie 26:32
No, no, what I meant is, I didn’t know you were going to Melbourne.
Geoff 26:35
Oh, I only knew like recently. So.
Georgie 26:37
Okay, it’d be funny if we weren’t there at the time.
Geoff 26:40
Yeah. So yeah, it’s just to kind of meet the team, because obviously, I haven’t met the team since joining one month ago. So it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be good. I’m gonna go down. Check out the office, which apparently is a converted warehouse, because everything’s a converted warehouse in Melbourne.
Georgie 27:02
Yep yep, sounds cool.
Geoff 27:04
So yeah, I they so my company is also very generous in this respect, is that I, I can actually fly down, I think as many times as I want for, for business reasons.
Georgie 27:18
Really. So like, every once a month, you can just fly down for like week and—
Geoff 27:22
I think that’s extravagant, like there’s still a budget, but it’s in the budget isn’t like, oh, you can only spend like three nights and, and you can only fly down twice a year or something like that. If the if there is a like a legitimate reason to go down to Melbourne, they’ll they’ll cover the cover the flight and the and the accommodation to go down. So, so yeah, I think I think what’s strange is that this is probably the biggest, this is the big, no, the biggest product company I’ve worked for? Like, yeah, so Deloitte was consulting. Huge, right? But that’s not, that wasn’t a product company. Domain, is very much like mid size in, and only in Australia.
Georgie 28:09
Hey, I guess you need to give numbers because I don’t know what my perception of a large organisation or company...
Geoff 28:13
How many. Okay, Domain employees. Wait, Domain? Oh, no, I need to find employ, like company size. Company sizes.
Georgie 28:26
Yeah. Cuz I worked at Freelancer and I think they were maybe about between 100 and 200 employees globally. And I think they were, like 50 engineers, but the 50 were, I don’t know, there were so many engineers in Sydney. And that, to me was a kind of large company. Because when I joined where I am now, which is Campaign Monitor, I think they were like 30 to 40 engineers, and now it’s like—hey, did you just freeze?
Geoff 29:02
Yeah, I think my internet’s having trouble for some reason.
Georgie 29:08
Your Zoom just froze.
Geoff 29:09
Technical issues.
Georgie 29:10
Stopped sharing as well.
Geoff 29:12
Yeah. The, so I think, I think Domain’s like, I don’t know. 200, 400? I don’t know.
Georgie 29:26
So that’s pretty, large size to me.
Geoff 29:29
Yeah, but they’re not global. Right. They’re like, strictly Australia. Let’s see. 37, a thousand employees, so they have a thousand, whoa, they have 1050? That’s a lot.
Georgie 29:44
That’s a lot!
Geoff 29:45
That’s actually a lot of 500,000.
Georgie 29:47
I always thought Domain was pretty big.
Geoff 29:50
Yeah.
Georgie 29:50
But that is also a lot a lot bigger than I thought. I guess I thought there were a few hundred or something.
Geoff 29:55
Yeah, that’s true. But they’re also still just Australia. What is CultureAmp? I have no idea. Click that button. Oh, also, oh, right, right. Actually, I should know this because they just did an all hands and they were like, we’re reaching 1000 employees, so they have 1000 employees as well. Maybe they’re just, like, better off. But yeah. Wait. 25... Oh revolutionising, okay, whatever.
Georgie 30:29
But you’re global right?
Geoff 30:31
We’re global. Yeah.
Georgie 30:33
I think globally, we I think we have maybe, maybe up to 500, I actually don’t know the number.
Geoff 30:40
What they don’t tell you at your all hands and stuff?
Georgie 30:43
No, I’m just terrible at remembering!
Geoff 30:47
Campaign Monitor...
Georgie 30:54
Well, we’re actually technically CM Group.
Geoff 30:57
Oh, really?
Georgie 30:59
Yeah. Like, that’s our global name, CM Group. So.
Geoff 31:04
Oh, look at that United States, I can become a customer success associate, CM Group.
Georgie 31:11
I think I’ve lost your screen share. So...
Geoff 31:13
Yeah, a thousand, 1049 employees. Yeah, you’re quite big as well.
Georgie 31:20
Because we inherit—inherited? Acq, acquisitioned, no—
Geoff 31:25
Acquired.
Georgie 31:26
Thank you.
Geoff 31:27
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, oh my god, seven companies.
Georgie 31:30
We acquired a few, a few brands, and they’re all by CM Group, like Campaign Monitor by CM Group, for example.
Geoff 31:38
Right.
Georgie 31:39
And each of those companies has their own—sorry, each of those brands has their, has has a number of people. And then globally, we have a lot. So I don’t actually interact a lot with people from, that work for the other brands. But I think they’re looking to sort of change that a little bit.
Geoff 31:56
Nice. Nice.
Georgie 31:57
To make it a bit more united.
Geoff 31:59
Yeah. Um—
Georgie 32:01
Views are that of mine are not my employer’s.
Geoff 32:05
Yes. CultureAmp has acquired a couple of other businesses in the past. But the idea is a unified platform. So like, yeah, you can’t tell the difference between going between different applications.
Georgie 32:20
It’s just CultureAmp.
Geoff 32:22
So it’s just CultureAmp. But yeah, they’re not looking to, Domain has like, commercial platform versus the, the green thing that everybody knows and loves.
Georgie 32:34
The green thing that everbody... (laughs)
Geoff 32:35
Yeah.
Georgie 32:36
The green brand with the house and stuff. Is that the logo?
Geoff 32:38
Yeah, it is the logo, I think. I guess the difference is not size, then. The difference is that the companies have different approaches to learning, learning and development. And they’ve decided that people should be able to attend conferences and stuff like that. So they try to accommodate for that. So that’s good.
Georgie 33:03
Yeah.
Geoff 33:04
So yeah. On that note, thing, things we should accommodate for is the ending of this podcast. (laughs)
Georgie 33:13
(laughs) Definitely.
Geoff 33:14
So new episode—no, that’s not it. We haven’t done this in a while. You can follow us on @toastroastpod on Twitter. Oh, no, we forgot to talk about Twitter. We’ll talk about time now. I don’t think we’re ever going to talk about it. But @toastroastpod for now, on Twitter.
Georgie 33:32
You know, actually, let me just mention the Twitter thing. I think it’s one of those situations where I have a semi attachment to it, but I know that it could be gone tomorrow. So some social media could be gone tomorrow, and I don’t care. But I also personally don’t want, don’t want to make a decision to like quote unquote, leave. So it’s a bit of that kind of neutral situation.
Geoff 33:55
Yeah.
Georgie 33:55
Anyway.
Geoff 33:56
I think I have the same idea. It’s kind of like it’s there, sure. It’s not, also okay, sure. Whatever.
Georgie 34:03
Yeah, my life isn’t tied to it in that in that kind of way. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the big Christmas party.
Geoff 34:14
Ooh, yeah. New episodes every Monday.
Georgie 34:21
See you next week.
Geoff 34:22
Bye.