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Geoff:
Georgie 0:09
Hey everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host, Georgie and as usual, I am here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:19
Hello. We are returning for another episode.
Georgie 0:25
That’s what I just said. (laughs) So before we started recording, I was like watching the end of my me trying to sell the auction of me trying to sell my old MacBook Pro—
Geoff 0:40
2015 MacBook Pro.
Georgie 0:43
Yeah.
Geoff 0:44
So OG.
Georgie 0:45
This was the second time I was trying to fucking sell it. Because the first time the person who won the auction just fucking cancelled on me.
Geoff 0:57
Such bullshit.
Georgie 0:57
So I was watching them—not watching them. (laughs)
Geoff 1:01
(laughs) You were, you were, peeking through the window at your—
Georgie 1:06
I was watching the auction about 20 minutes before it ended. And I was like, cool, it’s gonna go for like almost $300, whatever, happy to get any amount of money for this rate. And about 20 minutes before it ended, they put in a maximum bid. So I was like, cool. No worries. And I was just looking on my phone. So the UI was quite limited, I suppose. And then it ended and I get the email from eBay saying yay, your item has sold, congratulations. And then like five minutes later, I get this cancellation request from the person who’s won the auction. And they’re—oh. I’ll try and find the exact words, but I believe their reasoning was that they ordered it accidentally or something.
Geoff 1:57
That’s kind of also bullshit.
Georgie 1:59
So let’s go. Where’s the cancellation?
Geoff 2:04
That’s kind of ridiculous. Like, can you just say no? I guess you can’t...
Georgie 2:07
Okay. So, “Cancellation reason: order placed by mistake”. I’m like, you’re saying that 20 minutes before an auction ended, you typed or you input, your value of the bid that you wanted to bid, you pressed the button to confirm this action? Five minutes pass, sorry, 25 minutes pass. You get an email probably saying that you’ve won the auction. And you’re like, “oh, shit, I made this order by mistake”.
Geoff 2:37
Oh, my God, like ah, “That wasn’t the MacBook Pro I wanted, I wanted a 2013 one, not a 2015 one”.
Georgie 2:47
(laughs) Yeah.
Geoff 2:47
That’s that’s pretty ridiculous, though. How can someone like you said you have to put a number in.
Georgie 2:53
Yeah.
Geoff 2:54
And then you have to press a button. If you made a mistake two minutes later, you cancel it?
Georgie 2:59
Yeah. So someone actually did that. Someone actually did that in the one that I just, like the successful auction. Like, they they bid on it. And then like, I got an email two minutes later saying someone has retracted their bid—but this person waited until the auction ended. And fucked me over. Not to mention—
Geoff 3:16
eBay shouldn’t allow this.
Georgie 3:17
This person had zero fucking feedback. Always a red flag. I reported them by the way, and I said this person impacted my auction, negatively. Yada, yada.
Geoff 3:33
I also like how, how eBay has like 0% positive feedback. So actually, you could have gotten some negative feedback.
Georgie 3:39
But then no feedback.
Geoff 3:40
There’s no feedback.
Georgie 3:42
No fucking feedback.
Geoff 3:42
But the wording itself like implies that there could be negative feedback because it’s 0% positive.
Georgie 3:50
Yeah, and then what I did next was like, well fuck you. So I went and did a second chance offer to the next person who—
Geoff 3:57
Oh, that’s cool.
Georgie 3:58
Yeah, so the next person next highest bidder, if I can find the information ah, how do I find out where I... think it might be under listings maybe?
Geoff 4:15
Also, by the way do you do you always do like a ridiculous like photoshoot for your, for your stuff?
Georgie 4:21
It’s not ridiculous, I just laid it on the floor and took photos on my phone!
Geoff 4:25
Yeah, that’s pretty ridiculous.
Georgie 4:27
You reckon?
Geoff 4:28
You see the how other people like sell their shit, right? Like...
Georgie 4:31
So I had to buy this new fucking adapter as well because my mic charging cable had a fucking tear and now I was like who’s gonna buy that?
Geoff 4:39
You even bought them a new charger that’s really nice. You know these days—
Georgie 4:42
I know.
Geoff 4:42
Most stuff doesn’t come with charges. Nothing comes with the charger anymore.
Georgie 4:46
No, it does.
Geoff 4:48
Yeah, it does. It does. For those who don’t know backwards do come with chargers, just not the iPhones. Just not the iPhones.
Georgie 4:54
Yeah. So I sent to the next highest bidders. There were like two of them. I sent them an offer saying hey, do you want to, are you interested? I’m just trying to find the history at the moment. Unsold?
Geoff 5:08
But I’m impressed that you actually put this up for auction? Auction is such a such a thing that I do not—
Georgie 5:15
A fucking pain?
Geoff 5:15
I do not even approach doing auctions, I’m like, just take take the thing, if you want it.
Georgie 5:22
So anyway, yeah. Anyway what happened, oh here’s the person who—
Geoff 5:26
...had an offer from Qatar?
Georgie 5:28
Yeah. Okay, so. So firstly, I made I made an offer, like, after this person fucked me over, I offered to the next two highest bidders. And one of them actually messaged me, messaged me back and said, Hey, thank you, but like I’ve gone and bid—OK this is what this is what I find very strange. So, I wrote, I wrote a message saying, hey, the person who won this auction, like, has totally like shit on me, basically. And this has frustrated me so I’m hoping that you’re still interested and you want to buy this. Like, it was literally in the box, like ready to fucking ship like I already had it fucking prepared. But anyway, this guy replies—I’m gonna say it’s a guy because his name’s Michael. “Hi, thank you very much for the offer. However, because I lost the bid, I approached another laptop for bid and I won, I paid $300 winning bid for the same one as yours, though, since winning and paying, I’ve yet to find out if they post it as I haven’t received any confirmation. So if they don’t post my items, I’ll be happy to pay for this one, though. Will have to wait for a few days to see if they respond. Thanks again”. So now I’m thinking like, that’s fine, like good for you, like happy for you, you got another laptop. But they responded to me. Like I sent this second, it’s got a second chance offer. I sent this to them pretty much as soon as the auction ended, and the person fucked me over five minutes later. So I’ve gone, I’ve gone to take an action immediately to try and find another buyer. And then he said this, I’m like, wow, you were really quick and finding something else and winning something else. And then paying for that thing. I realised it’s also quite unlikely that you like, that you’ve paid and it’s quite unlikely that you’re going to lose. So I was like, sorry.
Geoff 7:17
How many auctions does this person run at the same—like so they must have been in the middle of like multiple auctions.
Georgie 7:24
Yeah? Yeah probably. I mean, I’ve done this before.
Geoff 7:28
Wow. Nah, I go in on, this is like when I apply for jobs, I just find like one and I just like apply. I don’t bother, like going like five other places to apply at the same time. And granted, like all, all job seeking advice says not to do this, because it’s all your eggs in one basket-type move. But I just I can’t. It’s pretty tiring.
Georgie 7:55
Yeah.
Geoff 7:55
To do multiple interviews. So.
Georgie 7:57
I was gonna say it’s a bit of a like, timesaver sort of? Energy saver.
Geoff 8:03
Yeah, it’s ultra energy saving. And also I’m in a frickin p-privileged situation where I can actually just you know what, I’ll do one interview at a time. I know not everyone has the privilege to wait around. Like, if this one fails, then I can just wait around for another one where it’s not very, very many people probably have that option.
Georgie 8:25
Yeah.
Geoff 8:25
Need a job now. Anyways, so this person? Yes.
Georgie 8:29
So I just said, good for you. I replied. I was like, cool. Thanks for letting me know. But like, I need to get rid of this ASAP. So I’m gonna like relist it or whatever. So I go and offer it to someone else. And they don’t reply to me. And I think it lasts for like 24 hours. And it was like almost at the end of the 24 hour period, and I hadn’t responded. So I was like, geez, probably not interested. So I ended up just relisting the MacBook as an auction again, but then that same person who didn’t reply or anything, they actually started putting bids.
Geoff 9:03
Oh man.
Georgie 9:03
This person started putting bids on the relisted map but I’m like, but I just offered it to you for the price you bid—funny, I don’t get it.
Geoff 9:12
It makes sense kind of because like why would I, if I got a second chance to buy it for two, 200 something—
Georgie 9:22
Yeah.
Geoff 9:23
If I don’t respond to you likelihood of you then we listing it is high.
Georgie 9:29
Yeah.
Geoff 9:30
And then the likelihood of me being able to pay less is high as well.
Georgie 9:34
But the funny thing is I actually ended up going for higher in the end than the first time I listed it.
Geoff 9:40
Oh.
Georgie 9:41
Which I was, I was surprised by, so I’ll I’ll tell you pretty much until yesterday. I was like oh fuck, it’s not even at 200 and then ended up going for 297. So I want to point out this person though, who started bidding on it like immediately after I listed it for the second time. This person made the account like the fucking day I listed it. Again, zero feedback, zero everything, like you’re a fucking red flag. And I was like crossing my fingers that some legit people would like bet on it. And then I get this absolute twit from Qatar.
Geoff 10:21
(laughs)
Georgie 10:21
And then I also got a message from someone saying, do you ship to Nigeria?
Geoff 10:30
Oh no, they want you to get in on their gold. Like selling all their gold, millions of [inaudible] of gold.
Georgie 10:38
And I’m just like, dude, did you not read? I literally said “no international post, Australia only”.
Geoff 10:47
Yeah, people don’t read.
Georgie 10:47
I also said about the service recommended a lot. I was like, if this is an issue to you, please do don’t bid or buy as I will not accept returns because you didn’t read the description.
Geoff 10:56
That’s really interesting. You know, people who buy stuff and say, oh, can I like return this? And the answer is no. No you cannot return.
Georgie 11:07
You should have fucking known because it’s fucking there.
Geoff 11:09
It’s also, cash, kind of thing. It’s, it’s weird, we’re not a shop.
Georgie 11:18
(laughs) Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 11:18
We don’t provide warranty. We don’t return, you just, you can’t return it, this is the risk you take with buying stuff from other people. You don’t want to take that risk. Go buy from a shop that will take returns and warranties. I don’t know if I talked about this, but I sold sunglasses. The sunglasses that didn’t fit me.
Georgie 11:37
Oh, yeah, you managed to do that. I feel like you talked about the sunglasses for sure. But—
Geoff 11:42
Yeah, yeah, I’m pretty sure I talked about it. But they messaged me like the day and the next day and said, can, can I return these because they don’t fit me? And I was like—
Georgie 11:53
What, no, no, I’m not a shop. You know that? That should be like on a shirt. I am not a shop.
Geoff 12:00
I’m not a shop. I’m not a business. Some people are, but not me. But the thing is like, they opened it when they, when they got the glasses. They took a look they like held it up and stuff.
Georgie 12:15
So you met up with this person to give them the thing that they bought off you.
Geoff 12:19
Yeah. And, and they’re like, oh, sorry. I didn’t notice at the time that that these didn’t fit me, and I was like, too...
Georgie 12:27
Too bad.
Geoff 12:27
I said, yeah, I sat there, you know, contemplating empathy and contemplating all that good stuff. And I was like, you know what? I’m not a shop.
Georgie 12:35
(laughs)
Geoff 12:35
I don’t provide warranties. You get what you paid for. And you didn’t check it properly. It’s not my fault.
Georgie 12:45
Yeah, I totally agree.
Geoff 12:48
The other time—I don’t know if I told this story either. Was I sold the monitors.
Georgie 12:54
Yeah, I don’t know if you have.
Geoff 12:56
Yeah, so I sold, I was selling two monitors, because I was chaidh trading it in for these. This beautiful, ridiculous ultra wide monitor. And I met up with this guy in a parking lot—it’s not a dodge parking lot, it’s a shopping centre.
Georgie 13:14
Maybe you have told this, but I don’t remember, but on.
Geoff 13:17
Yeah. And. And I took them out of the back of my car. And the guy was like, “Can I turn them on?”
Georgie 13:26
Wait, you have told me, but I don’t remember! (laughs)
Geoff 13:32
(laughs) Turn these on? Yeah, yeah. Anyways, that’s, that’s fun. I mean, like, it’s interesting, because eBay is predominantly like, you just ship it out. Right? And what, and they, what if it doesn’t work when they get it? It’s just...
Georgie 13:47
Oh, this happened with one of the laptops that Nick sold in the past. He didn’t... Well, it was kind of his own fault, because he didn’t really check. But he had no idea because he never used the external, the speakers in the MacBook. He always used like headphones or something.
Geoff 14:03
Yeah.
Georgie 14:03
But the guy who bought it said, Hey, there’s a problem with the left speaker or the right one of the speakers. And Nick was like, oh, really, like show me proof? Because he didn’t believe him?
Geoff 14:13
Yeah, right.
Georgie 14:13
And then the guy actually did, like he opened a YouTube video, he recorded like a video of the of him doing this. And he started playing music for the video, and then showing the speakers, and then he went to the settings and he changed the toggle to show that literally one of the speakers was just busted. And then Nick was like, yeah, I guess I can’t like argue with that. And he, Nick admitted to me, he admitted that he hadn’t actually completely checked the speakers. And he’s like, I’ll know for next time. And I think the guy actually asked like, you know, can I either get like, I think he wanted $100 back, or can I return the whole thing? And Nick was like, I’ll just give you $100 back because he was like, I just want to get rid of it. Like.
Geoff 14:57
Yeah.
Georgie 14:58
Yeah.
Geoff 14:59
I have a friend who really hates selling things. They just they they’re like—
Georgie 15:02
I hate it now. Especially after all of these fucking experiences. Yeah, go on.
Geoff 15:06
He just wants to give away the stuff. After he has and not worry about selling it. So he just finds people that want it like I think he has he had an Apple Watch S5 or whatever. And he was like, Yeah, I just gave it to one of his co worker friends because he doesn’t want to deal with this whole, like selling bullshit.
Georgie 15:28
It’s so shit.
Geoff 15:29
But that’s like three, four hundreds for the watch. It’s a lot of money. I had I had the off chance of actually obtaining that watch, because I was like—
Georgie 15:39
Wait what?
Geoff 15:39
My S4.
Georgie 15:41
Oh, you have four? Okay. Yeah.
Geoff 15:43
Yeah my S4. But I was like, you know, what, if it’s a free watch, it’s a free watch. So I would have taken it.
Georgie 15:52
Yeah.
Geoff 15:53
I’m pretty sure I haven’t told this selling story. It was selling this key, I’m selling the keyboard. It still hasn’t sold yet. But someone wanted to buy this keyboard. And they were approximately maybe like 30, 40 minute drive. Yeah, some far, pretty far. And actually, I went I went there before and had had a burger. So I knew that like the location, I was like, I’ll just go have the burger again. That’s no worries.
Georgie 16:24
Yeah.
Geoff 16:25
So we’re communicating. I might, right. I’m gonna come round around lunch, right. And then I get there. And they’re like, I’m out. Wait a second.
Georgie 16:41
(laughs) Yeah.
Geoff 16:41
I said, we’re gonna meet around lunch. Okay, I take fault. You know what? I didn’t say 12pm.
Georgie 16:48
You didn’t say the time?
Geoff 16:48
I didn’t say 1pm. I didn’t say 11am. Sure. So I this guy is pretty, I think he was slow at answering. But essentially, I was like, right, I’m here. So there’s, is there no way you can get back, like, yeah, I can’t. I’m out. I won’t. We’ll be back for a while. I’m like, well, how long is a while, right?
Georgie 17:09
Yeah.
Geoff 17:09
I can stick around till maybe 1, 2pm. Because I could just have lunch. And I don’t think I got a response. And so I was like, Okay, I’ll just stick around till one or however long it takes me to have lunch. I was like, 1:30. And then they I think they responded eventually. And they said, yeah, yeah, I won’t be there. And I was like, how long are you going to be out? Like I said around lunch and I’m already giving you like a two hour leeway on 12pm and, my god. And then I was like, fine. That’s... so I left.
Georgie 17:45
Yeah.
Geoff 17:46
And I base I think they basically ghosted me, like they didn’t really respond as to when else to make the purchase. I was tempted to just leave it on their mailbox or something and just walk away.
Georgie 18:03
What was this again?
Geoff 18:03
Obviously didn’t take me the money. Give me the money. It’s a keyboard.
Georgie 18:07
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 18:08
Yeah, I’m thinking of just throwing—you know what, these days I’m just thinking of taking things down to there’s a that we have, like, in, in the apartment building. There’s a basement level.
Georgie 18:19
Yeah.
Geoff 18:19
Like a loading dock. And because we actually live in a council building, if the council is actually in this offices, or in this building.
Georgie 18:27
Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.
Geoff 18:28
In the commercial side.
Georgie 18:29
Yeah.
Geoff 18:30
We have a council pickup right there. So we—
Georgie 18:33
Fuck it just—
Geoff 18:33
We literally throw things into that. I call it the Bermuda Triangle. Or things in that and they disappear. Handy. So...
Georgie 18:42
Yeah.
Geoff 18:44
Some slippers, just throw them away.
Georgie 18:44
I mean, I wouldn’t say it’s a Bermuda Triangle. Well, we have one in our current apartment building and where we used to live where they were like, if there’s anything you don’t want just put it here, and literally you could put just—
Geoff 18:56
Mattresses are probably the thing, right. Furniture,
Georgie 18:59
Yeah, mattresses, furniture, yeah.
Geoff 19:01
Things you just don’t want to sell. It’s just a pain in the ass.
Georgie 19:05
Yeah, I have had like enough not-good experiences selling on eBay. It’s very frustrating. Especially when you, when it is something you can kind of get money back for. I know, this laptop is old as fuck. But still, I was like, give me some money, man. I don’t know why I keep attracting these weird like, people who are like, no zero, like zero feedback things. And every time Nick is like, hey, can you like sell something from your eBay account? I’m like, fuck off. I was like, I don’t want to deal with people. It’s so frustrating.
Geoff 19:42
I don’t want to sound sexist at all. But, like, the most successful sales I’ve had, I don’t know if I’ve said this before, but it’s to females.
Georgie 19:54
Yeah, yeah I think you said that they pay on time and stuff like that.
Geoff 19:58
They pay immediately, they have a specific time to meet up, they come, pick it up, they leave.
Georgie 20:06
I wouldn’t say it’s sexist. It’s just an observation you fucking made.
Geoff 20:09
Yeah.
Georgie 20:10
Like that’s—yeah.
Geoff 20:12
Actually, have you heard of the, the time where I don’t know how long ago it was but Japan was labelled sexist, or not sexist, oh, racist, was it racist? Yeah, racist. Because um, the Japanese are very hospitable, base, basic, hos, basic culture of Japan is very hospitable. And they noticed that in their restaurants, whenever Caucasians come in, they order extra spice. So they learned that this was a very common pattern. So whenever Caucasians walked in, they gave them extra spice, by default, like they didn’t even ask. And people found out, people found out that they were giving Caucasians extra spice—
Georgie 21:06
Wait for free, like, as in?
Geoff 21:08
Yeah, they just spiced things more or gave them more wasabi or something like that. Right? You, you generally you can say hold the heat if you don’t like spice or like or just like, can you add more spice, but they got so many requests from Caucasians to add more spice that they just started adding spice by default for Caucasians.
Georgie 21:27
So they’d be like, you’re white. I’m gonna put more spice in.
Geoff 21:30
Exactly, exactly. So they got called out for being racist.
Georgie 21:35
By who though, like who, like just people in general?
Geoff 21:36
I don’t know, actually, I think that just like articles where people realise that because they were Caucasian, they got, they got extra spice and then they decided to, you know, write an article about
Georgie 21:46
Well, I would say that’s, I don’t want to say it’s racist, because it’s not like necessarily discriminatory in a bad like, in a bad way. It’s like, oh—
Geoff 21:56
Yeah.
Georgie 21:57
We assumed based on our observations that y’all like, spice. Let’s put more in. You look why, like it is kind of like judgmental, but then they have then you have things like you’re a tourist in a country and they just see that and then they charge you more. Like is that racist? I don’t even know if that’s racist?
Geoff 22:15
Yeah. Oh, my god.
Georgie 22:26
When we went to Indonesia, like because Nick is white. He’s Australian. We went to Indonesiam they’d always want to like charge him more when he was like with me and my mum and it was like, is he a tourist, and then they look at me because I look like, I don’t know completely Indo. And they’d be like, is she a tourist? So I don’t know but I feel like that is more like they’re they’re like, we want your money, you, we know you’re willing to pay more I feel like it’s a very different scenario to the spice which I find actually kind of funny to be honest.
Geoff 22:48
Yeah, I find it hilarious. Like they’re just hospitable they just want to help you get to your ideal meal. Because if you keep asking then like at some point I’m gonna be like, fuck, I’ll just—
Georgie 23:02
They’ll just give it to you.
Geoff 23:02
Yeah. Damn, man. You have 100% positive feedback.
Georgie 23:06
Oh, you’re looking at my—
Geoff 23:07
On eBay.
Georgie 23:12
Oh, speaking of feedback, I want to, I love looking at the just the generic feedback. You know what I mean? Yeah, like—
Geoff 23:19
‘Very good. delivered on time.”
Georgie 23:21
“Thank you.”
Geoff 23:22
“Thank you.” Anyways back to that.
Georgie 23:26
I mean, hang on, wait. I do like some of the really like personal, like the more personalised ones, so someone’s like, “great purchase, arrived on time”, pink heart with yellow sparkles. Like “Great service. Thank you”. Another thing is when they actually mentioned the item “delivery was speedy and jeans in good condition”. That kind of thing you know, like “love the top”. Ooh, I’m really glad you did!
Geoff 23:52
Nice nice. Oh, yeah. Back to the restaurant thing right.
Georgie 23:55
Yeah.
Geoff 23:56
The, there’s also like two sides of a menu, they like hand out like menus for tourists.
Georgie 24:02
English, like is this where the English side is more ex—
Geoff 24:05
Yeah, the English side has more, is more expensive than the then like the Japanese or the Chinese side. I only hear about this stuff in Southeast Asia. I’m not so sure if they if they try fleece people in Europe or anything.
Georgie 24:20
Oh yeah, I’m not sure.
Geoff 24:20
Fleece, I mean they have other ways of fleecing people which is gypsies. I guess.
Georgie 24:26
You mean like just the peeps on the—like as in like Europe has a lot of dodgy people on the street who just try and scam you, is that what you mean? Like there’s—
Geoff 24:34
Something along those lines, like they they bump, they like steal things from you or they give you unfair pricing on like, just like if you’re at a market or something like that then...
Georgie 24:42
Yeah.
Geoff 24:43
You’re purchasing these—but if you sit down in a restaurant, I’m not so sure if you’re a pas that has that thing where they give you expensive menus versus like.
Georgie 24:51
I don’t think so. No, I think if you—
Geoff 24:55
For tourists.
Georgie 24:55
If you go off the off the beaten path like you try and look for authentic restaurants and things in Europe most of the time is like what you see is what you get, there’s something dodgy about it.
Geoff 25:07
Yeah.
Georgie 25:07
I think it’s more, if you go to somewhere like on the main drag, they tend to be quite overpriced. And you can usually tell anyway like—
Geoff 25:15
Yeah.
Georgie 25:15
You can tell by the people in the restaurant, all the—
Geoff 25:17
(laughs)
Georgie 25:17
People in there are tourists, right? Whereas if you go to somewhere, like in the alleyway and like everyone is like from that area, they’re like locals and stuff, like, it’s a very different vibe.
Geoff 25:27
Yeah. Um, I remember we were in, I think it was Venice. And my, um, we’re like, what, two days into our Europe trip? And my dad, like the first que—like the tour guide’s, like, do you have, anyone have any questions? And my dad’s like, “Where’s the nearest Chinese restaurant?” I’m like, Dad, it’s been like two days since he had rice. Can you like, maybe, maybe it wasn’t two days, maybe it was more like five days.
Georgie 25:54
So he really wanted like—
Geoff 25:55
He really wanted Asian food. Yeah.
Georgie 25:57
You know, I get like this. Sometimes I’m traveling as well, like in Europe. And I’m like, I don’t know, but I really want some sushi. But like where the fuck am I gonna find sushi.
Geoff 26:06
Yeah, so we get pointed to the only Chinese restaurant in the entirety of—
Georgie 26:09
What was it, what was the name?
Geoff 26:11
I can’t remember the name. Honestly. I could probably look it up. We could probably look it up—
Georgie 26:14
Fortune Luck or something.
Geoff 26:16
Yeah, Ultra Fortune. Triple eight. No, not triple eight. Like—
Georgie 26:22
Jade Dragon? I tried to tell Nick about the—I don’t think he fully... I think he gets it. But he’s also like, well, what else is gonna like grab Westerners in like, a rural, mostly Caucasian town. Like you can’t call it. Like, even calling it like Sichuan is not going to attract it. You gotta call it like something that—
Geoff 26:44
Mr. Stone Bowl.
Georgie 26:46
You gotta call it, gotta call it like Dragon, Jade, Lucky.
Geoff 26:51
There’s a—
Georgie 26:51
Fortune.
Geoff 26:52
Isn’t there, there’s a place in I think it’s Maroubra. It’s called like Golden Unicorn. I’m like, why is this a Chinese restaurant?
Georgie 27:00
Yeah, actually. There is a place in, what’s it called? Like in Kingsville? Where, like, well there’s one on Anzac Parade that sells congee. And it’s like one of the only ones like near me that sells congee and it’s called—
Geoff 27:12
Wow.
Georgie 27:13
It’s called The New Dong Dong Noodle.
Geoff 27:16
Oh yeah.
Georgie 27:16
And like, I’ve like, you know, no offense, but probably a Caucasian person is gonna, isn’t gonna look at that and be like, oh yeah, I’m gonna go there.
Geoff 27:25
Yeah, yeah. The, yeah. around my area. There’s, they’re pretty, they’re named pretty well. I mean, there’s like the Lang, like, Lan Xiao? Anyway, so it’s like, there’s a beef noodle place. And they just call it whatever the Chinese name is. Plus the beef noodle. That’s it. Like everything around here doesn’t have a real Caucasian.
Georgie 27:49
Yeah, cuz I think you live in an area that has like—
Geoff 27:52
Yeah.
Georgie 27:52
Actual Asian. Asian community. Yeah.
Geoff 27:58
But yeah, Mr. Stone Bowl always has a huge line. And like that’s a that’s a fairly generic sounding name. It doesn’t scream, like Chinese food or anything. But anyways, so we go into this restaurant and we see two other groups from the, from the tour. Are there as well, I think one of the other Asian groups are there and one of the Caucasian group, like it was just a family, Asian family and the, and the Caucasian family. They’re at this Chinese restaurant as well. And I’m like, oh my god. Okay, I guess we’re having Chinese food in in like frickin Italy. That’s the thing. I don’t remember eating any pizza in Italy.
Georgie 28:43
Really?
Geoff 28:44
Yeah. And I didn’t, I don’t remember eating like any baguettes, croissants in Paris. And I don’t remember like, saus, any sausages in Germany. Like what did we eat? Like why did we not eat any of like the proper like, oh my god, we did have souffle though, that was my one requirement was to find a souffle in in Paris. And there’s a place called Le Souffle, which for people who don’t know, is just “the souffle”. The also the other thing is like, apparently Parisians usually eat savoury souffles, similar to how they eat savoury crepes. But man, I cannot handle that, like I need—
Georgie 29:30
No?
Geoff 29:30
I like the desserts souffles. And dessert crepes, more than the savuory stuff.
Georgie 29:36
I like, I like the savoury stuff. I think I’ve just always generally preferred savoury stuff and not so much really liked a lot of desserts. I guess. Actually, this reminds me—I had one of these for like, the first time the other week. Jianbing.
Geoff 29:54
Jianbing?
Georgie 29:56
Do you know of these. They’re like a Chinese pancake.
Geoff 30:00
Jianbing? What does it look like cooked? That looks all like it’s like raw.
Georgie 30:04
It looks like folded up. Like a I don’t know. It’s like an egg.
Geoff 30:09
Stuffed crepe.
Georgie 30:10
Yes, like a stuffed crepe. Like a breakfast burrito—
Geoff 30:12
I’ve never seen this before.
Georgie 30:14
So there’s a place near me that like, does it and I kept going there because they just made like crepes, like French style crepes, but they’re owned by like Chinese people, but they’re known for the jianbing, and then one day I was like, not heaps hungry. And I didn’t want to buy their crepes because they were priced at like, $15 and it doesn’t feel like much. So I was like, I’m gonna try this jianbing thing and fuck, it was actually like, really good. I was really surprised. I was just like, oh, I get it now. And it was only like $6. Like, it’s not like a huge roll, but it’s like, I guess Chinese breakfast item made with egg.
Geoff 30:48
Like a stuffed crepe folded in half.
Georgie 30:50
Yeah, it’s really filling.
Geoff 30:51
Like a burrito. It’s like a Chinese burrito.
Georgie 30:54
Yeah, it was really filling, it was quite good. And I was like, I can’t believe I haven’t tried these yet.
Geoff 31:00
Never heard of these. But like, in my area, there’s a, there’s, I don’t know what it’s called. But they have this flatbread and it’s got... They stuffed the flatbread with something so, but it’s very thin. It’s very flat. So you don’t think there’s stuff in it, but there’s like, ground beef in it. So you can buy it and open and you can consume the thing and it’s kind of an interesting—
Georgie 31:23
Is it like a tac—like almost like a semicircle?
Geoff 31:27
No, no, it’s not. It’s not open at all. It’s completely closed, somehow.
Georgie 31:31
So they stuff it and then they seal it somehow or something.
Geoff 31:34
Yeah, they stuff it and then they cook it. They cook it after you finish, after they’ve like stuffed it and they cook it in kind of like a tandoor. Which is a big, big ceramic bucket with a hole in the top. And kind of put it down the, down there.
Georgie 31:58
Oh, like a yeah.
Geoff 31:59
Like a big ceramic pot. Yeah. And then you you put bread on the, on the edges and then there’s coals inside and stuff like that. And that’s how they make tandoori chicken. I always wondered, actually, if tandoori chicken isn’t made in a tandoor. Is it actually tandoori chicken? (laughs)
Georgie 32:20
(laughs) Maybe not technically, like there are a lot of, I think there are other foods. I can’t think of any off the top of my head. But there are other foods like this where it’s like if it’s not cooked this way, is it technically.
Geoff 32:31
Yeah. The, is like champagne, right? It’s like—
Georgie 32:36
It has to be from Cham—
Geoff 32:37
From Champagne. It’s not champagne. So yeah, I’m sure it was like the original way of cooking it was in the tandoor. And then they managed to basically, grills became a thing and then you can get the same effect from a grill. Essentially, I’ve heard it tastes like a bit different when it gets cooked in a tandoor. But yeah, what was, what were we talking about? All right, we’re in like different countries eating like—
Georgie 33:04
Eating food.
Geoff 33:04
Countries.
Georgie 33:05
You in Venice eating Chinese food for some reason.
Geoff 33:08
Yeah. Yeah.
Georgie 33:09
Jade Dragon.
Geoff 33:11
Jade Dragon. Ultra Lucky. Ultra Lucky Cricket. The other thing was Japan and Italian food.
Georgie 33:22
Oh, yeah. Like their take on pasta is—
Geoff 33:24
Yeah.
Georgie 33:24
Is their own take on pasta. It’s nothing like Italian pasta.
Geoff 33:27
Yeah, they use the Italian names. But the ingredients they use to make it are different. So you get a different flavour.
Georgie 33:36
Yeah, I find it’s like a simpler, like a really simple kind of pasta, the, in Japan like, compared to Italy.
Geoff 33:45
I can’t describe it. To be honest. We’ve had carbonaras, we had pizzas. And let me tell you if you think you know what a carbonara tastes like, and you try it in Japan, just—
Georgie 33:55
It’s just not, it’s not gonna be what you expect.
Geoff 33:57
It’s just definitely not. And I’m, and I’m guessing it’s just because the ingredients that you normally put in a carbonara just kind of like, they found similar close ish ingredients and just did the same thing.
Georgie 34:14
Yeah.
Geoff 34:14
But yeah, Japanese spaghetti.
Georgie 34:16
Wow. pickled plum pasta. Holy shit. Do you have, what’s your opinion on pickled plum?
Geoff 34:23
No, it’s not something I would pick out and eat myself because—
Georgie 34:26
I love—
Geoff 34:26
Pickled, and it’s plum.
Georgie 34:27
OK so you don’t like pickles. I like, I like pickles. I really like, every time I fucking go to Japan. I go to a fucking, what, 711—
Geoff 34:37
Oh, this thing. Right, the pickled plum?
Georgie 34:39
I get the pickled plum onigiri. And I’m like, fuck, like I can’t I don’t know who does it here. Maybe I can go to like a place that sells pickles and then make it myself but like—
Geoff 34:48
I think have accidentally eaten this.
Georgie 34:51
Yeah.
Geoff 34:51
For sure.
Georgie 34:52
The first time I heard it. I was like, oh, it’s sweet. I didn’t know what it was. I was just like, oh, is this, the filling is sweet? And I was like, it’s nice. I like it for some reason. But what the fuck is it? And I found out what it was because I started reading the fucking packet, instead of just fucking ripping it open and eating it. Because I’m so fucking hungry. I was like, oh, it’s pickled plum. So yeah, that’s, that’s my thing. I love that. I love that stuff.
Geoff 35:17
Something that we found at a sandwich place called Tinys, which makes massive sandwiches.
Georgie 35:26
But it’s called Tinys.
Geoff 35:26
It’s called Tinys.
Georgie 35:27
What is it, Tiny sandwiches.
Geoff 35:30
Yeah, there you go, sandwich bar, Tinys Sandwich Bar. It’s near work. But the funny thing is, so every time you order a sandwich, they actually give you banana peppers. And apparently, banana peppers are pretty American. And my colleague and friend hadn’t actually had, hadn’t been able to find banana peppers at all in—it’s right there, actually, if you scroll down in that picture, in that tiny sandwich picture, yeah, right there. The yellow thing, I’m pretty sure that’s a banana pepper. Anyways, so apparently, they had struggled to find banana peppers in, in Sydney. And it turns out here they are in this restaurant. So.
Georgie 36:15
Wow.
Geoff 36:16
I think my, my other colleague mentioned that you can buy them at like, Middle Eastern, kind of like, the more quote, unquote, ethnic grocery stores. Because I mean, the guy’s, the guy’s from America, so, so yeah. So that was really interesting that, that he found his his favourite, like pepper in the restaurant served alongside these sandwiches. Which I hadn’t tried. I didn’t try them—
Georgie 36:53
Are they like hot?
Geoff 36:54
Because—
Georgie 36:54
Or are they just like, because—
Geoff 36:55
I don’t know. I don’t eat them.
Georgie 36:57
Because you know in America, they call, they say bell peppers, but we call them capsicum. I don’t know why everyone laughs when we say that, is it because it’s got the word “cum” in it?
Geoff 37:08
“Cum” in it?
Georgie 37:08
Calm down. (laughs) Cum down.
Geoff 37:10
(laughs) Title of the episode.
Georgie 37:15
Cum down. Capsicum down. But yeah, I was just I was wondering if they were like, spicy. Because every time I think of the word pepper.
Geoff 37:25
Yeah.
Georgie 37:25
I think of like, because you can call, are they called jalapeno peppers. Like technically?
Geoff 37:31
Have you tried jalapeno poppers?
Georgie 37:33
Popper? No.
Geoff 37:35
I have no idea what they are either. But—
Georgie 37:37
Who, who, where did you?
Geoff 37:40
It’s on an all the American—
Georgie 37:41
Is it like a stuffed—
Geoff 37:42
It’s a deep fried stuffed—
Georgie 37:43
Stuffed pepper? I’ve had stuffed peppers before and I don’t know like I don’t know for some reason. I have a love hate relationship with them. Because I think sometimes the stuff, that, what they use the stuffing, I’m not a fan of, depends.
Geoff 37:59
Yeah. I don’t like the fact that the texture of the like, of a pepper. You know, when you bite into a pepper. It’s got that skin and then it’s—
Georgie 38:07
Like a shiny.
Geoff 38:09
It’s like a shiny, shiny. Yeah, I mean, like capsicums, I can’t eat. I don’t like eating capsicums
Georgie 38:15
I’m not a fan of them either.
Geoff 38:16
So if I bite into this, I’ll be expecting that. That—
Georgie 38:20
The skin kind of, weird separation.
Geoff 38:22
Texture.
Georgie 38:23
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 38:24
Plus that plus that very vegetable-like lining.
Georgie 38:29
Yeah, I don’t know. I think it’s I think it is the skin. Like I don’t love that texture when you bite into them.
Geoff 38:35
Yeah.
Georgie 38:36
But if it’s like processed, or like it’s being cooked into something, and I’m not gonna like, notice.
Geoff 38:41
Yeah, I guess if you deep fry them, I’ll be okay.
Georgie 38:44
Yeah.
Geoff 38:45
Actually, I had deep fried pickles recently.
Georgie 38:49
Yeah?
Geoff 38:50
Wasn’t a fan. Even though they were deep fried. Yeah.
Georgie 38:54
So is it just like slight like a slice of pickle? Like a cucumber?
Geoff 38:59
Like a slice of pickle.
Georgie 39:00
Yeah. And then is it just fried in oil?
Geoff 39:03
So it’s a big batter.
Georgie 39:04
Oh they batter.
Geoff 39:05
They batter it and then they fry it. Maybe it was the way they did it in this in this particular restaurant, but I guess it’s fairly American. It was like a pretty dough, like a doughy batter. And then you kind of like—
Georgie 39:17
This weirds me out.
Geoff 39:18
Yeah.
Georgie 39:19
Super weirds me out. So I like—so you don’t like pickles.
Geoff 39:22
Nah, I don’t like many vegetables.
Georgie 39:24
I like pickles. And when you described that I just thought of like, a warm pickle. Because it’s been.
Geoff 39:30
Yes, yes it’s warm.
Georgie 39:31
And that is even, like that’s gross to me. Like, like pickles. Like, I don’t know. I feel like when they when you put them in a burger. They get warm and like, OK, whatever but you’re like making them warm. And I’m like that’s—
Geoff 39:43
(laughs)
Georgie 39:46
Deliberately really warm pickles, everybody.
Geoff 39:49
Yeah, yeah, just deep fry most things. Pretty, pretty fond of that. Pretty fond of that. You can deep fry most things and I’d eat them. I’ll try it.
Georgie 39:59
Deep fried ice cream.
Geoff 40:01
Yeah, fried ice cream. So good. So good. You don’t like fried ice cream?
Georgie 40:06
No, I’m lactose intolerant. So it has to be vegan. Is there such thing? Should I open a restaurant that has deep fried vegan ice cream?
Geoff 40:15
Oh man, I’m sure like, that, I think this place called Duo Duo probably will also do that.
Georgie 40:22
Duo Duo.
Geoff 40:23
Yeah, Duo Duo.
Georgie 40:26
I don’t know what their menu is like.
Geoff 40:27
Oh, handmade, lovely.
Georgie 40:30
Yes.
Geoff 40:31
Is this the right one?
Georgie 40:32
Handmade.
Geoff 40:32
This is the place. You go...
Georgie 40:35
I just saw some bouje doughnuts. You know, I feel about that.
Geoff 40:38
Yeah, bouje doughnuts.
Georgie 40:40
Oh, my god they do iced coffee. Vietnamese iced coffee.
Geoff 40:43
Vietnamese iced coffee is so good. Ice cream wise. I don’t know about drinking it.
Georgie 40:47
I’m guessing this, is this one vegan? Malted milk. I mean, yeah, I think more is like not dairy. So.
Geoff 40:56
Yeah. But yeah, I think they should have, I think—
Georgie 41:00
Dougnuts though.
Geoff 41:03
Yeah, there you go. Go to the store. They have fried ice cream there. I don’t know if you, like there’s no, doesn’t seem like it’s on this—
Georgie 41:11
Oh, wow. That’s like back in the—
Geoff 41:14
Yeah, Roselands and Baulkham Hills. Not really your—
Georgie 41:18
Yeah, maybe if we go and visit like family out that way, bit closer.
Geoff 41:23
Yeah.
Georgie 41:24
Wait, this is a dessert truck, month of August? Oh, no. It’s closing today.
Geoff 41:30
Oh, shit you better go! I mean, not today. Today is not the 27th of August.
Georgie 41:38
Well, not when anyone’s listening to this, don’t tell anybody.
Geoff 41:43
Yeah, fried ice cream, available after 5pm, there you go. So yeah. Thanks. Thanks for, everyone. Thanks for listening to another episode of Toast & Roast
Georgie 41:55
Eat your pickles!
Geoff 41:56
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Georgie 42:04
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Geoff 42:11
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Georgie 42:12
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Geoff 42:20
Yeah, with your capsicum.
Georgie 42:22
(laughs)
Geoff 42:27
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Georgie 42:29
See you next week.
Geoff 42:31
Bye.