The most un-Australian thing about us: we are not beach people (but we do protect our eyes with sunglasses). We ditch the sand for melting modelling clay, trying to remember grade seven mathematics, and go downtown instead.
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The most un-Australian thing about us: we are not beach people (but we do protect our eyes with sunglasses). We ditch the sand for melting modelling clay, trying to remember grade seven mathematics, and go downtown instead.
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Geoff:
Geoff 0:08
And welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host Geoff and as always co host Georgie. How’s it going Georgie?
Georgie 0:21
Hiii, it’s very hot outside. I’m not a fan. Well, I mean—
Geoff 0:25
So you’re not going anywhere.
Georgie 0:27
If was a fan, I’d be cooling myself down.
Geoff 0:31
You’d be pretty chill.
Georgie 0:34
That’s the worst. That’s the worst.
Geoff 0:36
That’s the best—that was a great pun. What are you talking about? I actually did go out today.
Georgie 0:43
Me too.
Geoff 0:44
Yeah, went down to Cremorne point, which is about a 30 minute drive from, where I am. Up north a bit.
Georgie 0:53
I went the other way. Yeah.
Geoff 0:56
Oh, really?
Georgie 0:57
We went to La Perouse.
Geoff 0:57
We did a bit of a walk.
Georgie 0:59
Yeah.
Geoff 0:59
Oh, you went to La—wow. Okay. Yeah, went south.
Georgie 1:02
Yeah. I regret my life choices.
Geoff 1:07
I mean, we did a one and a half hour kind of walk around criminal endpoint. So it’s kind of a loop. And I mean, it was basically water views all the way down. You could see bridge, harbor, Harbour Bridge and the Opera House. That’s what it’s called. Yeah. But the thing is, we finished the loop, and there was like a tiny lighthouse as well. We were like, we got to the point. And we’re just like, where the fuck is this light house? And then we’re just looking around, and couldn’t see shit and we saw some stairs? And then we’re like, oh, there it is. It’s tiny ass. It’s like, I don’t know, what’s six, seven foot eight. I don’t know. It was like, tiny. It wasn’t like a giant building that you can see. From like, ground upwards. It’s more like down. Down near the water, is really small.
Georgie 1:59
They’re like a one-storey building height.
Geoff 2:03
So—sorry?
Georgie 2:03
They’re like a one-storey building height?
Geoff 2:08
One-storey I don’t think is even one story.
Georgie 2:10
Oh, wow. So you’re saying it’s as tall as a person basically. Like two metre tall person.
Geoff 2:16
Okay, maybe not as tall as a person. Cuz maybe I can stand next to it, maybe be two of me. Three of me. So I’m 163...
Georgie 2:24
So like ten, ten feet. Ten and a half feet?
Geoff 2:26
...maybe four? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was like a dwarf, a dwarven, like, lighthouse. So we’re a bit disappointed that it wasn’t, you know, impressive. But then on the way back, we, we managed to finish the the end of the the point, and then the idea is to cut across, and then it’ll become a whole loop. We got a little bit distracted by some of the houses nearby. Some of them have lifts, right, because everything was on a cliff edge. All the houses were like five storeys, and the road was on the top floor. So some of the houses had, you needed a lift to get all the way down to like the bottom floor of your house after you park your car. We were really, really intrigued by the concept. And some of them just have stairs. So we started following a bunch of houses. We saw some nice ones actually along that road. And then we realized right at the end that we had gone the complete opposite way to get to the car. So had to loop all the way back around. But it was pretty good. But also yeah, it was like 27, 30 degrees and very hot.
Georgie 2:28
Yeah.
Geoff 3:45
Hot go. Where did you go in La Perouse?
Georgie 3:51
So yeah, we went to went to La Perouse, we didn’t really go anywhere around there. We were planning to do is a, I think a three hour loop walk. That’s like I think seven kilometres, but we’ll probably go there another time time because we didn’t have a lot of time. And we just went to the bit where you can walk across the bridge and there’s the fort.
Geoff 4:18
Oh, this bridge. I don’t think I’ve ever actually, I don’t think I’ve been there either.
Georgie 4:21
I think you can do like tour tour tours there. We did see some some some kids like diving into the almost too shallow water, but they seemed to know what they were doing. They seemed to know the right spot to dive in and not injure themselves. But it was packed. We ended up trying, we ended up parking near a—in a cafe—near a cafe that we ate up beforehand, which was kind of in the suburban backstreets because down near the beach and stuff, man, there were people trying to wait for car spots, waiting for people to come back... and uh, the eateries down there were like packed as well. So yeah, I didn’t predict that but maybe we’ll be back at at a time when it’s not so packed. I guess people like it when it’s hot. I fucking hate it when it’s hot. Very un-Australian of me.
Geoff 5:19
Yeah. Yeah. Not a fan of the heat either. We’ve got very extremes here nowadays. We’ve got like, pretty cold relatively. And then we’ve got like, really hot. Can’t really win here. But yeah, we went over to eatery. And it was really weird. They didn’t have any signage outside us to to like what they were. I looked, I was just looking on Google Maps. And they were like, yeah, this is where the place is. But we’re like walking up the street. There’s no sign for it. And we’re just standing in front of it. And I was looking around like, I think it’s over that way. And then Dorinda’s like, you think it’s this? Here right here. We looked on the tables outside and they had the menus for the place. And I’m like, oh, standing right outside it. It hadn’t opened yet. So we’re like, hanging around for like half hour just trying to wait for it to open. We played a bit of Wordle.
Georgie 6:31
Oh, yeah. Did you get today’s one?
Geoff 6:35
Yeah, got today’s one. Which was... I can’t actually remember the words after after I do them. Did not get yesterday’s one. A bit...
Georgie 6:49
I got yesterday’s one.
Geoff 6:50
A bit annoyed.
Georgie 6:51
So actually only played like, I started playing, I think when I messaged you about it like maybe five days ago, when everyone was like, the word knoll, K-N-O-L-L. Everyone...
Geoff 7:02
Yeah.
Georgie 7:02
...struggled with that one. And people kept talking about it. And that was the first day I gave it a go. And I got that one. And then I’ve gotten the word every day, since some of them were easier than others. But yeah, I can see how... do people have different strategies for like ruling out certain words, or let, sorry, with certain letters. Some people start with the same word. But I think like, I don’t think it really matters. I think it’s just fun, like, that everybody play—just does the same game, essentially. And you either get the answer or you don’t. And like I don’t know, it seems like some people are, they’re a bit comp—competitive when they see on Twitter that something is trending like Wordle number 200-and-something x and see that so many people have not gotten the word that they have. And they just feel like really like...
Geoff 7:56
Yeah.
Georgie 7:56
They feel really smart.
Geoff 7:57
Proud of themself.
Georgie 7:58
Yeah. So yeah. Which is cool. But like I don’t I don’t really, I don’t really care. I think it’s... I don’t really care about beating other people.
Geoff 8:09
Yeah. The funny thing about today’s one was that we had found three green letters. No, no, two green letters, and three yellow, like, it was the first time we had every letter guessed in one word, but there were three in the middle that just were in the wrong location.
Georgie 8:30
Oh wow.
Geoff 8:31
So yeah, it’s quite it’s quite interesting that that we managed to hit all the letters yet not quite in the right place. So yeah, been playing a little bit. Have you seen all those Wordle memes now? That’s so bad.
Georgie 8:49
I’ve seen a couple but I don’t really care for them. I actually started playing a different game, which was a prime number version of Wordle. And let’s just play that as well for fun.
Geoff 9:01
Yeah, the prime number one. The math one oh my god. We tried the math one and honestly hadn’t done operator. Like, what’s it called?
Georgie 9:17
BODMAS?
Geoff 9:18
It’s like the order in which the operators...
Georgie 9:20
Yeah.
Geoff 9:21
Yeah, the way, the order the operators are resolved in. So there’s plus there’s multiply there’s minus and actually, the—
Georgie 9:32
Division first, isn’t it?
Geoff 9:33
Plus... the multiply is uh, is done before the plus and the minus so like—
Georgie 9:40
Yeah.
Geoff 9:40
Struggled like hell doing this mathematics one because we had forgotten the order in which these operators are resolved in.
Georgie 9:48
Yeah the way I remember...
Geoff 9:50
We managed to do it in the end.
Georgie 9:52
...is... BOD... it’s B-O-D-M-A-S is what I learned in school. Or P...
Geoff 9:57
Oh, yeah, we, I learned that too. Yeah, but for some reason, when it’s all in a line it like, I don’t know, it’s like it was a number, plus number, multiplied by number, minus number. So, it, I think, I think it tricked me into thinking, oh, I should just do all the operators in a line. But usually there’s a brack—there’s brackets for the the x times or whatever. But yeah, I hadn’t done I hadn’t done math like it a line like that in a long time. Usually, it’s sort of like, how do I get this number? Okay, I just mod or times this stuff. But yeah, I think the math, the math spin offs, the math spin offs are kind of fun. But the the meme ones are really starting to get pretty annoying. What’s one that happened? Yeah, the Weather Channel, not worried or just what the Northeast is doing, is going to be doing getting this weekend or whatever. And it’s just a bunch of squares. Blue and white squares. It’s just horrible.
Georgie 11:10
Oh dear.
Geoff 11:12
But yeah, not. Oh, okay. Yeah. It’s, it’s stupid. In any case, Wordle’s getting out of hand. And I saw some, what was it. One of the people I follow, they mentioned that the Wordle memes are not accessible. Because all the screener does read out is a bunch of emojis.
Georgie 11:45
Yeah, nah, I’ve read into this whole discussion. And someone, I think some people have been working on an accessible version. But I started sharing my results. And I was like, I wanted to add a comment to it. Just so even if people didn’t understand the squares, I could say, well, on my third attempt, I did so and so. So, so yeah, anyway. I like to go outdoors, which is like what we did today, and like, do, do walks and things. But I just, I really, I am not a beach person. And...
Geoff 12:23
Oh, yeah, tell me about it.
Georgie 12:26
It’s so funny, because I’m pretty sure most Australians are associated with liking the beach, but I just, I dislike it. So I don’t mind walking on the beach, just in regular clothes. But I’m talking about going to the beach in warm weather, going for a swim, and just... actually just going for a swim. It’s just so much bother to me. And the whole notion of sand in the car and sand up in your butt crack and all of this other shit is just not on.
Geoff 12:59
Yeah, yeah. So you enjoy the the, I don’t know, the idea of going for a swim at the beach. But this is not practical.
Georgie 13:11
Yeah... okay, not even going for a swim. I like the beach and coastal scenery walking around it, I assume you do too? Because you’ve done some coastal walks.
Geoff 13:22
Errr, yeah, I guess so.
Georgie 13:25
I am. I am partial to more like forests and mountains though. But I like the look of the ocean. I like you know, walking by the beach when it’s not packed with people enjoying their summer vacation and stuff. But I’m not into going on the sand and into the b—just, I just it’s not my thing. And I’m just not a beach person. And I think other people who are not beach people can probably say the same thing. Or even other hobbies. They might be like, oh, I’m not a, “I’m not a sports person”. I don’t like—
Geoff 13:58
I’m not a mountain biker.
Georgie 14:01
Yeah, I’m not a I’m not a runner or something. But yeah, I have lived kind of near the beach for like several years now. And it’s it’s yeah, I guess I, like you said, I like the idea of a beach. But to participate in traditional beach activities. just not my thing, dude, not my thing.
Geoff 14:22
I have to do it at least once a year when I go visit family back in Perth because everyone is, are beach people and the children love the beach. So I’m like alright, I guess I go to the beach and do all the beach things dig fucking holes. Stick children in the holes. Bury them alive. I mean, I I dig them back out everyone. Don’t, don’t, don’t be alarmed.
Georgie 14:50
This sounds so perverse.
Geoff 14:53
They find it fun. I—
Georgie 14:55
Kidnappery.
Geoff 14:55
I, I take like sand and I I mean, I leave their like torso hanging out. Like they’re just like sitting in a basically a deep hole of sand.
Georgie 15:07
Torso deep.
Geoff 15:08
And then I make like shapes around them. You know, like car shape. They wanted to be a mermaid, so we carved a fucking mermaid tail. And so we do fun stuff like that, but my god, yeah, I hate the, I hate the whole process of sand. The whole idea. And the it’s, it’s like glitter, you know, it’s almost as bad as—
Georgie 15:36
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 15:40
Should people sand bomb people instead of glitter bombing? Is that better or worse?
Georgie 15:46
I don’t know. But um, when we were walking today, there was a gust of wind and it took some sand with it. And like, I was wearing sunglasses, but it still got me in the face. And then, like, I was wearing a sports bra and it basically went down my sports bra and like stuck to my chest where I was wearing sunscreen and I was like, y’all like this? Y’all like sand?
Geoff 16:09
Hahaha, yeah. Who the fuck invented sand. And who the fuck thought it was like a fun thing. Go stick with Play-Doh or something, you know, like, it’s—
Georgie 16:21
You know, speaking of Play-Doh, one of the one of the—I wouldn’t say first times, but a childhood memory I have of going to the beach with some family friends—my, one of my family friends had like, I, it wasn’t Play-Doh, it was like the harder form, like not clay... is it clay? Like the modelling clay?
Geoff 16:40
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 16:41
Yeah, for some reason we were playing with that stuff at her house before we went to the beach as a group. And I made this tiny little, white, like little box and then I got the other colors of the clay and made these little balls that was supposed to represent like gemstones and put them in the white little thing and I was just so proud of my creation right? And then like without even really thinking because I was only about maybe eight or nine years old or something, we arrive at the beach, and I was sitting in the back of the car. And in the back, the back seat behind the behind the backseat, like where the window is, it’s mostly like carpeted or fabric but then there’s a small part, that’s just like plastic—I think it was like attached, I don’t know what it was, but there’s like a plastic panel—and I just thought I’ll put this little plasticine like model that I made because like I don’t want to take it to the beach, that’s just dumb. I’ll just put it there, and then it’ll be there when I get back. And then I got back, without even—like this is so common sense—but it had melted into this little puddle of white, like with some small streaks of colour in it like it was marble. And I don’t know why but I was so surprised. Really shouldn’t have been.
Geoff 18:00
Did did it like adhere to the to the plastic?
Georgie 18:05
No, it was just a it was almost like someone had spilled ice cream. And it melted on this plastic panel. That’s what it looked like. It was just—
Geoff 18:14
That’s hilarious.
Georgie 18:15
...a puddle.
Geoff 18:19
So what happened? Were you distraught?
Georgie 18:21
Of course I was! I was just like... and my mum was just, you know.
Geoff 18:25
Absolutely blown.
Georgie 18:27
She was mad that I like got some of it on the on the fabric bit. Wasn’t all like, you know, and some of it stained the, stained the fabric part. I was just like, that was the best plasticine model I’d ever made. Plastic—whatever, plastictine. Clay. Plasticine is like, you know plasticine right?
Geoff 18:44
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 18:45
It’s like stickier and harder. Sorry that sounds absolutely... dirty.
Geoff 18:51
This is not going to be clipped out of context.
Georgie 18:55
Yes, it probably will be. I’ll do it. I’ll do the audio grab, and it’ll be like... the stickiest...
Geoff 19:04
Stickier. And harder. But yeah, I think... I didn’t have too much contact with plasticine or modeling clay and like until I had nieces. Now that shit’s everywhere. But you were talking about sunglasses and I, I ordered some new ones.
Georgie 19:29
Oh yeah cos yours got stolen.
Geoff 19:31
I some—nah I lost, I lost it there.
Georgie 19:34
Yeah, OK.
Geoff 19:35
Yeah, that was way back. My friend’s sunglasses got stolen in the back of the car. But I, I don’t know if I’ve told this story of the double sunglass—sunglasses. I think I may have told you but not on the podcast. But okay, so I went to this sunglasses store and they’re having a sale on on the Ray Ban new Wayfarers, if anyone’s really into sunglasses. And, what the eff just happened? My, it just kicked me out.
Georgie 20:09
Stream’s ended, what happened? Anyway, go on.
Geoff 20:11
Anyway. So just um, so I went to the sunglasses store and they were like on sale and I was like cool, I wore a pair, they’re awesome. So I went to the, to the counter and the person serving me was saying what was like, oh, do you want it in the box? Or do you want to wear it out? And I said, I’ll wear it out. So, um, he passed the... I think he passed the what was it? Oh, so, so I said I’ll wear it out. And then he had an assistant and the assistant packed, packed the rest of the stuff, you know, the glasses case. And in the box, right?
Georgie 20:57
Yeah.
Geoff 20:58
And he gave me the box. And when I got home, I opened the case to get like the cleaning cloth to clean this losses. And it just so happened that the assistant had packed a brand new pair of sunglasses in the box. And so I had ended up with the ones on my face, and the ones in the box. So any, you know, moral person would probably think, let’s go back to the store and give the pack back. And one of my friends had a different opinion, and basically decided to keep the sunglasses, they can’t do shit about it. So you know, it’s a bit of a grey area, like, does—you give someone cash, do you expect them to give the cash back if you accidentally sent them the money? I don’t know. Either way, I ended up with two pairs of sunglasses. Sure, I’ve got a backup. But I ended up losing the one that I had. And I left it in the office or something like that, it went missing. So I said cool. I have a backup. And then somehow in the last six months, I lost my second pair. Like, where the hell could it have gone? I don’t leave my house and the sunglasses don’t leave my face even if I leave the house. And if I’m driving somewhere, the sunglasses just sit in the car. So I’m like, I’ve no idea where it went. Anyways, so I went looking at the sales. Of course there were sales on recently. So I went out and like they were new Ray Bans on sale and I’m like, cool, this as a good price point. I went to Sunglass Hut and I put them on. And the, the assist—the person at the Sunglass Hut was just like, “No”. Like what? They just said “no”. I was like, oh, okay, why? And they said, It’s too small for your face. I’m like okay, that’s fair. Why did they, they just said “No”, first. I’m like, okay. And so I was like, okay, it’s too small for my face. And I’m like, “What about these ones?” And they said, they don’t have any here in the store. It’s actually old ones that I was trying on. So we rushed over to the, what do you call it, the outlet store, the factory outlet store. And went to the Sunglass Hut there where they would have some of the new ones, and I put them on and they were also too small for my face. So I went online and bought a pair of like, the biggest pair I could get. And they’re also too small for my face. I’m like, this is the biggest fucking dilemma. I can’t get these sunglasses in any other size. And they’re too small for me. And I have no idea what other sunglasses to get. Because I got so used to the old ones. So yeah, now I’m in, now I have to return them. I have bought them from a store in the UK.
Georgie 24:14
Bro.
Geoff 24:14
So there’s is customs papers and I haven’t quite filled it out yet. Which I should actually, because I think I’m only allowed 14 days or whatever. And I did this like over a week ago. I think now. Oh shit I have to probably figure that out. Um, so yeah, I wrapped it all. And then I went to the post office and I found out that I had a whole bunch of other things to fill out, custom forms. And to do returns you have to put the I—like the customer ID or whatever and put it inside the box, I’m like oh well, fuck, I have to go home and open this box and then do extra paperwork. And I’ve been putting it off for ages. But that that is my sunglasses story.
Georgie 25:00
Yeah, sadly, is not very time efficient or cost efficient to return something like, internationally.
Geoff 25:09
Yeah. I mean, I tried to sell it instead. But yeah, like, like the, like the returns, warranty repair. It’s just the longest process to return stuff. And and yeah, I’d probably rather sell—maybe I should. Maybe I should just put it on Gumtree, or—
Georgie 25:35
Your favourite.
Geoff 25:35
My favourite places. My Facebook marketplace, just to see if someone would buy a brand new pair.
Georgie 25:43
I actually put one of my old Fossils sunglasses on eBay. And I got some interest because, because some people watched the item, but no one’s bid on it yet. Like come on.
Geoff 26:00
Yeah, yeah. bidding.
Georgie 26:03
Yeah, I mean, maybe I should have just done a, Buy It Now. I don’t know. Doesn’t matter. But good thing.
Geoff 26:08
Yeah, I haven’t thought about bidding, bidding is a bit of a strange thing.
Georgie 26:12
Yeah? I do that with all of my clothes that I sell. I put, I usually put a bidding price starting at like maybe $10, or something maybe a bit higher, depending on like, how much like the maybe the brand of the item or whatever depends. And then I also put a Buy It Now, which I—for a price that I think is like reasonable. Of course, I have to take into account the eBay fees, that’s like ten percent. And so like, there have been times where I have sold something for only like $9. And then there’s the shipping, which I just give them the exact price of the bag that I paid for, the postage. So like, I don’t make any money off that. But then there’s $9. And then they’ll just take like 10% of that. So I’ve literally only made $8 from the—and, there have been some times where I’ve sold something for like a few dollars. And I, now I just I don’t even want to do that anymore. Like it was it’s just like I actually lose money. With, after the fees deducted, and I’m like, I probably better donate this if no one wants to buy it for more than $5.
Geoff 27:20
Yeah, I mean, spending five, yeah I guess $5 and then getting a free free ship to you is pretty good, to be fair.
Georgie 27:28
Yeah, as a buyer, right. But as a seller, you’re like, this is pretty shit. It’s a waste of my time as well. So like I don’t live near a post office, because that’s just the way the world works. I have to, I have to walk for like 20 minutes to, well, 15—20 minutes, which, which added up, does take time. So I got to walk there and I got to walk back. So I started buying the prepaid postage satchels, I was like, this will probably make my life easier, I should probably just do this. Even though I don’t love to have an excess of them in case I don’t sell like, enough stuff. And it’s like, I’ve just got these prepaid things, but whatever. So it’s like the time is money thing. And if I’m only selling something for like such a small amount, I really do feel like it’s kind of like a waste of my time. And with not getting anything really in return. At the same time, it’s just like, but it’s nice that somebody wanted to buy this item and I don’t have to donate it.
Geoff 28:24
Yes.
Georgie 28:25
Yeah, donation places and like charity stores are overflowing with our shit.
Geoff 28:32
Yeah, I just throw it over there. Like, it’s better than me throwing it away. Maybe?
Georgie 28:41
Although you probably go through like less clothes than I do.
Geoff 28:45
Yes. Probably. I’ve been thinking about refreshing though, like—
Georgie 28:53
Ooh, style upgrade.
Geoff 28:53
Just get rid of get rid of all the, all of them. And then, and then buying the same stuff again.
Georgie 29:01
Oh OK. So that’s not really refreshing. That’s just like, updating.
Geoff 29:08
Not really, wouldn’t it be the other way around? Updating would be a change of style?
Georgie 29:13
Yeah, that is kind of refreshing with...
Geoff 29:17
New and same stuff.
Georgie 29:20
Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. Yeah, makes sense.
Geoff 29:23
Yeah. Yeah, my black shirts are black enough. And so I just need to replace all ten of them with new black shirts. Actually, I think I only have about five or six. But yeah, I was thinking of doing that. Five or six, five or six black shirts. Maybe I’ll try find a better quality places to get black shirts from.
Georgie 29:50
Yeah.
Geoff 29:52
That might be an interesting thing to try.
Georgie 29:56
Yep.
Geoff 29:56
But generally I get my stuff from Uniqlo and just live with it. For, like, this is one of the things I don’t change very often. It’s just all my clothes. But yeah, I have thought about selling my board games. But I found that most of them can be played with two players. So I’ve been playing a few of them with Dorinda. And I guess I’m keeping them now and I’m semi like, sweet. I don’t have to go through the marketplace. But also, yeah I’ve still got a few other board games that might be better to sell than to keep. Nobody got space for this stuff anymore. But yeah. What was I looking at? Can’t remember now?
Georgie 30:58
Gumtree.
Geoff 31:01
Yeah, but yeah, we went... oh, we also had, we went to a pretty good place for lunch today. Had a pretty nice burger, but it was like super small. And yeah, I got buffalo wings. I had been meaning to get buffalo wings since seeing it on some some cooking YouTube video. Where... Yeah, where they had—oh, Hot Ones. Do you watch Hot Ones?
Georgie 31:32
Yeah! Okay, so I don’t watch it. Like regularly. But I think Nick was watching Gordon Ramsay on there because that was the most popular one. And then we started binge watching all of the episodes. So yeah, yeah.
Geoff 31:48
Yeah, yeah. So every now and then I watch a Hot Ones. I’m like, man, I could go with some good buffalo wings. And I think I found a pretty nice one. Except it’s in Neutral Bay. It’s like, half an hour away from me.
Georgie 32:01
Is that near me? I don’t even know anymore. Is that inland? Or is that? South west?
Geoff 32:08
North north...
Georgie 32:10
Oh it’s even fur—
Geoff 32:11
Across the bridge.
Georgie 32:12
Okay. Yeah nah. Screw those guys. Just kidding!
Geoff 32:15
Yeah. Can they deliver?
Georgie 32:19
I feel like “across the bridge” is out of the, you know, cuz there’s a few restaurants across the bridge that, like, I’ve wanted to try and even just like during the lockdown and stuff I looked at—they did like delivery, but they did it to the northern suburbs. And I’m like... for context, “across the bridge” means basically North. We’re saying—actually, I think everyone says across the bridge to mean the north, right?
Geoff 32:46
Yeah.
Georgie 32:47
Because Sydney City and the CBD which is like the central business district where a lot of people work and where all the fun happens... is, is like, it’s it’s in the harbour, like near the harbour. And then there’s the, the bridge that goes pretty much to the northern northern suburbs. And so when we say “across the bridge”, we’re talking about all the all the suburbs up there.
Geoff 33:15
Yeah, it’s interesting. I guess people from the north don’t say “across the bridge” when they mean south, they just say CBD, or inner west.
Georgie 33:24
Because, it’s because they are there. I think they’re like self-aware. They’re self-aware that they are.
Geoff 33:30
I mean, they could say “across the bridge” for us if they really wanted to.
Georgie 33:34
But they don’t. Because they just say, because literally on the other side of the bridge is the CBD. Also you know what’s funny is doesn’t CBD mean like cannabis?
Geoff 33:43
Oh yeah.
Georgie 33:44
I remember—
Geoff 33:46
In America?
Georgie 33:47
Yeah, I remember the first time I saw CBD written—
Geoff 33:50
Chemical... chemical... is the chemical found in marijuana.
Georgie 33:56
Yeah, so the first one I saw that written by somebody who probably posted something on social media and they were from from the US. I was like, what is that? Like, completely did not know was referring to cannabis or marijuana. I was like, oh yeah, we call our you know, our city, the CBD.
Geoff 34:17
Don’t don’t other people call their cities the CBD?
Georgie 34:21
I actually don’t think so, no, they call it downtown. So—
Geoff 34:24
Oh yeah.
Georgie 34:25
When I when I talk to other people from around the world I just say like, “the city” or I say “downtown” because I think it’s just a little bit more universal and Australia’s just fucking weird.
Geoff 34:36
Yeah, yeah. I watched like Shark Tank and Dragon’s Den and stuff like that. And people come up with CBD, like, pitches, cannabis pitches, where they’re trying to make it a little bit more available because it’s becoming more legalised.
Georgie 34:57
Yeah.
Geoff 34:59
So that’s probably I hear the term most in terms of like, yeah, I hadn’t made that connection that we call our city, the CBD. And that the the cannabis world calls their medical marijuana. CBD. It’s yeah. Is it really just Australia?
Georgie 35:21
I believe so.
Geoff 35:23
Central Business District. Serious, it just says Sydney. It literally—you Google Central Business District and you get only Sydney. Oh, Sonora, so the financial district. I know that in San Francisco. Oh, they call it the financial district. Yeah, but you’re right. Often coincides with city center downtown.
Georgie 35:52
Yeah, city centre. That’s like that, that even applies to like, villages, or like as in like, small rural towns, like even in the, like in the Blue Mountains. For example, I would just say yeah, that like the city centre—
Geoff 36:07
Town hall.
Georgie 36:09
Yeah, that’s it.
Geoff 36:10
Town centre. It’s pretty funny. Yeah. Driving down there as well. Town city. Ci—Town Hall. Town centre.
Georgie 36:17
Town Hall. Yeah.
Geoff 36:18
Yeah. But that’s really funny. If you look at like Australia, CBD is commonly used as the acronym acronym for central business district. But Colombia, the largest CBD in Colombia, Colombia, Colombia, is Bogot–Bogota’s Centro International, but. So apparently they call it CBD in Colombia as well but they also have Cali’s downtown. Is a lot of CBD in Colombia’s Pacific region. Oh La Defense is seen as its is the financial district of Paris. Okay. Didn’t know that. Just kind of went there. Yeah, Jakart—okay. Yeah, not many other places say, use the term CBD apparently. Jakarta has a CBD... Peru.
Georgie 37:21
Wait, Jakarta has a CBD? Or it is the CBD.
Geoff 37:26
Oh, I think Jakarta is the CBD.
Georgie 37:30
It’s so giant. They might as well have their own right. Like it’s so densely populated.
Geoff 37:37
Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. Yeah, Japan has a ton of them.
Georgie 37:42
Really?
Geoff 37:42
I don’t know. I don’t know why. Yeah, Fukuoka here she might Kobe, Kyoto, Nagoya, Osaka, Sapporo, Sendai because Tokyo Yokohama.
Georgie 37:53
All of their cities are pretty densely populated, like evenly.
Geoff 37:58
Yeah. And I think they do finance in every part of their country to be considered a central business district. I think they have the most. That’s so many.
Georgie 38:14
That’s that’s kind of, that’s kind of cool. I didn’t know that. Today I learned something.
Geoff 38:18
Yeah. I guess that’s why I mean, I was watching this doc, ish, on the public transport system in Japan.
Georgie 38:31
Yeah.
Geoff 38:31
And how I think this is why they can have so many central business districts, and it’s not so centralized really, is that they have like a billion dollar budget for their public transport. And they built you know, the Shinkansen bullet train that can get you from Tokyo to Kyoto in like, a couple hours. So they, they fine tuned their transportation to the point where it’s negligible to work to live, like fairly far out of any of these places and still go there for business. So, yeah, that they’ve done really well, even though they have really terrible traffic as well. I think the the thing is, is that 80 to 90% of the people take, use, public transport there. And it’s only about 10—15% that, that use their own cars. Yeah, that drive.
Georgie 39:35
But then isn’t the population so big that even the 10% creates traffic?
Geoff 39:41
Yeah.
Georgie 39:42
Annoying. Yeah.
Geoff 39:45
We thought about actually renting a car for the next Japan trip and actually driving around rather than using the public transport. But man, I think that’s a really hard sell. Where do you stay? Not very many places have pla—has a spot for the car. You’d have to probably avoid Tokyo altogether. Live very far out.
Georgie 40:12
Yeah, I mean, maybe it would make sense if you were doing some kind of like rural road trip and going to, like—
Geoff 40:19
Yeah.
Georgie 40:19
...less populated areas and exploring.
Geoff 40:22
We wanted to drive from Tokyo to Kyoto and do like Mount Fuji or something in between. So—
Georgie 40:30
Yeah, I feel like you’re still better off doing—
Geoff 40:33
Yeah. We thought it’d be more fun. But it seems like it’s, it probably wouldn’t be if we wanted to actually stop and, you know, stay overnight in any of the cities. So yeah. Hopefully we can hit up Japan in 2023.
Georgie 40:55
Oh, really?
Geoff 40:56
In 2020 we said 2021, and in 2021 we said 2022.
Georgie 41:01
I feel like this year could be viable. But I don’t know. I’m also not counting on it.
Geoff 41:06
Yeah.
Georgie 41:06
Like, I’m not thinking about traveling internationally too much. Nick thinks it’s probably possible. But, but yeah, it’s just like, continuously monitor the situation. And I’m just gonna say we’ll just keep seeing what’s happening. So.
Geoff 41:24
Yeah, I had a few co workers, they went to Fiji.
Georgie 41:27
Yeah, dude, there was like a whole wave of people who were just like, oh, yeah, let’s let’s do it. So I don’t know. I mean, I can’t imagine how busy it might have been but I think there’s always going to be that group of, like a group of people who just like, go at once. And it’s like, I think the good thing is to try and avoid that like to kind of pick, pick the time when like, not everybody is rushing to visit the same country because everybody is absolutely, like ravenous for travel.
Geoff 41:59
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And speaking of ravenous for travel, we should travel out of this podcast. So yeah, you can follow us on @toastroastpod on Instagram and Twitter, mainly Twitter. But we’re getting clips on Instagram. Every now and then.
Georgie 42:25
Yes I’m actually doing stuff y’all. Yeah. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. And the big continent in the oceanic region, which we’re currently standing on. We’re sitting on.
Geoff 42:44
Oh my god. I know. Next episode, I need to talk about this big continent thing. It’s, I just want
Georgie 42:50
Oh! OK.
Geoff 42:53
And yeah, new episodes every Monday. So see you all next next week.
Georgie 43:00
Bye.