We talk about and roast the logistics of our podcast, and Geoff ponders how to style his blockout blinds, and how often he needs to cut his toenails.
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We talk about and roast the logistics of our podcast, and Geoff ponders how to style his blockout blinds, and how often he needs to cut his toenails.
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Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:08
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host, Georgie and I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:16
Hello, were you about to say, “I’m your co host, Geoff”, because you paused?
Georgie 0:21
I was gonna say “G”, and then I thought I’ve already pulled that one before. So that’s not a funny joke anymore, is it.
Geoff 0:28
Gotta be original.
Georgie 0:30
Yeah.
Geoff 0:31
Gotta be original. Yeah, so just now we were like talking about pretty behindin reg, in like, editing these podcasts. But it takes like, what, five, five, ten minutes for me to—
Georgie 0:44
You can’t tell people that.
Geoff 0:46
Why?
Georgie 0:46
They’re supposed to think that it takes hours and that we’re not like—
Geoff 0:50
I mean, like—
Georgie 0:50
Extremely low maintenance.
Geoff 0:52
It’s, it only takes five minutes because we have a team of editors.
Georgie 0:57
(snorts)
Geoff 0:57
So I just need to listen to it. Nah. Well, I mean, we can also share that we’re the most optimal, like—
Georgie 1:07
Is it optimal, or is it just like really lazy? Actually?
Geoff 1:11
I think it’s like, a bit a bit of both, I suppose. I mean, we’ve gotten mostly okay, like talking without any big gaps, so you don’t have to edit those. Rarely things go wrong. So just need to pair it up and put some music to it that we don’t have. I don’t know why I said that.
Georgie 1:34
What music are you talking about?
Geoff 1:35
I haven no idea. It just, this tune just plays in my head sometimes. And I think it’s, I think it’s cool. But yeah—
Georgie 1:44
When you say go wrong. What do you mean by that?
Geoff 1:48
Nothing goes wrong. You’re right. It’s a very rare occurrence. It’s mostly nothing goes wrong.
Georgie 1:53
You mean like I roast you too much? And you’re kind of like “no, I’m calling it, that’s way too much”.
Geoff 2:00
Or, or my neighbours decide to roast us with their with the drilling. And, and my microphone decides to toast? And—
Georgie 2:11
Wait, your microphone? I don’t remember anything happening with your microphone.
Geoff 2:16
Oh, no, things don’t just switch in the middle of recording.
Georgie 2:20
No. It’s we’re just very perfect at planning what we’re going to talk about and delivering exactly what we want to say.
Geoff 2:30
Yeah, that’s definitely what we were going to talk about this episode. But you’ve had some testimonials I guess from people who have said they just like hearing us just to talk to each other?
Georgie 2:43
My, I got I got a testimonial from a friend of mine who is probably listening to this. But the testimonial was that they they called us out for—(laughs)—for recording episodes in advance. And they felt fooled, because they because we had an episode come out. And I think it was the voting one maybe?
Geoff 3:06
Yeah.
Georgie 3:07
I can’t remember. But it was a bit like the timing was kind of weird. And they were like, what I thought you recorded them, like, a few days before they were released. And I’m like, we record like a few every weekend.
Geoff 3:21
Yeah, I mean, I think it’s, it’s hard, to, I mean, we try and talk about recent events, but not as if they were recent. To a degree, to be honest, we don’t try that hard. Clearly because this person found out that we had recorded it a weird time. But it’s just not sustainable. And that’s that’s part that’s part of the low maintenance is that we have backlogs, so we don’t always have to record and we only started doing that from episode, I don’t know, 30?
Georgie 3:59
Something like that. Yeah, it made it easier to kind of have—
Geoff 4:04
Yeah.
Georgie 4:04
Have content, quote unquote, ew, vomit in mouth millennial style.
Geoff 4:09
Yeah, cuz you all know that Georgie is just jetstting every other week so you can’t—
Georgie 4:14
No I’m not!
Geoff 4:17
...keep a recording schedule on top of someone’s someone’s travel schedule.
Georgie 4:22
I just, I just imagined like a video of it, just it just cuts to me just like sitting on the couch being a potato for hours on end.
Geoff 4:31
Yeah.
Georgie 4:31
No I’m really just at the gym a lot.
Geoff 4:35
I don’t think you’ve ever missed a recording because of the gym, more because you are in a different... state.
Georgie 4:39
No, that’s, yeah, that’s actually true. (laughs) No but testimonial wise. I’ve had people say thatt hey just enjoy listening, listening to us talk because we’re just having a conversation kind of thing.
Geoff 4:51
Yeah.
Georgie 4:52
Which is sort of where I kind of grabbed the, what do you call it like, not a, not a, yeah, like the tagline of telling people that had promoting our podcast is like, if you just want to listen to, like eavesdrop on two people just talking about shit, then please listen to us because that’s exactly what the experience is like.
Geoff 5:10
Yeah, I caught I caught up with some ex colleagues and mentioned that. Like, they asked, you know, what do you what do you do on the weekend? What are you doing tomorrow, whatever. And I said, I got the podcast recording. To be honest, I didn’t even mention that we record the podcast when anyone asks like, oh, what are you guys doing on the weekend? And I’m like, probably nothing. Then I remember somewhere in between then and now, that I have a podcast recording.
Georgie 5:40
It’s probably because it’s so routine that I, I also don’t feel like telling people, I just say, oh, yeah, the usual stuff, gym, record podcast episodes, and then any other stuff.
Geoff 5:51
But then they they, they recalled that we had started this podcast, and I was like, oh, what, was I working there when I started this podcast? Turns out, I was, and they were like, oh you’re still doing it. How many episodes are you up to? Oh, something like 90 ish. And then they did the calculations, about a couple years or whatever. And then they’re like, oh, I should put it on my list to listen to you. And I’m like, look, we’re not, we’re not talking about anything really important. It’s just, it’s just bullshit. Most of the time. We barely toast or roast.
Georgie 6:28
Yeah, I feel like we did that in the beginning. And then now we just like—
Geoff 6:31
Themes be damned. That’s what that’s what our podcast is about. Anyways, we were talking about, so you said something about point of friction.
Georgie 6:39
Yeah. Wait, what were you talking about?
Geoff 6:41
I was talking about not editing this podcast—
Georgie 6:43
Alright—
Geoff 6:43
Despite being a couple of minutes.
Georgie 6:45
Yeah. So, like, about an hour ago, I thought I really want to I need to sell some shoes. Okay, by the way, sidebar. It’s really hard to sell shoes secondhand.
Geoff 6:56
Oh man. I’ve been trying to sell some things too.
Georgie 6:58
Because shoes are, like everyone’s foot is just so different. And every shoe brand is frustratingly different. It’s very different to buying like size medium t shirt or shirt or top or something. You can kind of get away with it, jeans, maybe I don’t know, for you just like, I cannot find anything smaller than 26.
Geoff 7:19
Yes, it’s ridiculous. The market.
Georgie 7:21
Yeah. And then I’ve got the shoes that to put on eBay I have to take photos of. And it’s such a point of friction to just sit there on my tiled floor and take photos of the shoes in different arrangements. And then post something, post something on eBay, like the eBay app makes it easier. Because you just pick the photos that you’ve taken from your phone. Write a brief description, it figures out the category. But it’s still “grumble grumble I have to take photos of the things that I’m selling”.
Geoff 7:59
I mean, I’ve got a shelf behind me that I’ve been like, yeah, I should probably sell it and then it just get, stuff gets put on the shelf. And then I’m like—
Georgie 8:06
It’s because it’s a surface, you have like a surface and you’re like, I want to keep this surface clean. And then you just put shit on it.
Geoff 8:13
Yeah, my desk.
Georgie 8:15
(laughs)
Geoff 8:17
Shit gets on the desk. But yeah, it’s sort of it’s like, I call it a minor chore, I guess. There’s a lot of things around here. Oh, right. So I have decided that I’m finally changing my blinds. It’s been three years.
Georgie 8:35
Do you have like the Venetian like the slash, slated? What are they called?
Geoff 8:41
No, I have vertical blinds.
Georgie 8:43
Blackout? Like the blackout ones. As in they’re fully opaque when you—
Geoff 8:48
No.
Georgie 8:49
No?
Geoff 8:50
Unfortunately. I’ve got the vertical blinds. You have to drag the wand across—
Georgie 8:59
Yeah, isn’t that venetian?
Geoff 9:01
They’re not venetian blinds here—
Georgie 9:03
I need to know.
Geoff 9:05
Venetian blinds, are the ones that go up and down, they go up and down. And then you turn it and then it closes. I think that’s what you were talking about.
Georgie 9:14
Yes, but it also has the pulling thing where you have to pull it to the side to release it and then pull it.
Geoff 9:20
Oh.
Georgie 9:20
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 9:21
Yes, that is a that is a function but I’m talking about vertical blinds, which it’s more like curtains but slats.
Georgie 9:30
Yeah, okay.
Geoff 9:31
They are ridiculous. I remember when I first moved in, because, so, context, my apartment is just doors, they don’t, I don’t have windows.
Georgie 9:41
OK so it’s a full length like floor like—
Geoff 9:43
Floor to ceiling.
Georgie 9:44
Yeah. All right, holy shit.
Geoff 9:45
Full length. And I have doors behind them. So I need to ventilate the apartment sometimes. So you open the door. And then I have a very, very strong cross breeze. So but that’s the only way to get air in is to ex, to execute the cross breeze. Enable, activate the cross breeze. And then man, it’s so strong sometimes that the vertical blinds just go out.
Georgie 10:14
Like a skirt or something.
Geoff 10:16
Yeah, I’ve lost, I’ve lost one. Maybe two.
Georgie 10:18
Oh, no, like, wait, out as in, they’ve broken or they’ve just—
Geoff 10:23
No, they just disappeared. They flew out.
Georgie 10:25
Are you serious.
Geoff 10:26
Have I actually lost them? I feel like all of them are full now. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I had to move one from like right at the edge into the middle because I lost one. They also have these stupid things at the bottom. They have like a fold at the bottom. I don’t know if anyone?
Georgie 10:43
Is this where the, there’s chains connecting?
Geoff 10:47
That would be nice. Yeah, I think some of them do have that.
Georgie 10:50
No, no, that would not be nice. And I’ll tell you why. I, when I was, when I grew up with my parents, they were chains connecting all the vertical slats. But it was just like such a bother to open and close these blinds that those chains—
Geoff 11:07
These ones?
Georgie 11:07
...ust get, yes, they are an absolute bitch. Those chains would just like, come off easily from the, what do you call it from the attachment? And then they trail the floor and because everyone’s fucking lazy, we don’t want to put it back. And then the whole thing would just get destroyed.
Geoff 11:25
I have these ones where there’s like a little, there’s a pocket here with a weight in it.
Georgie 11:32
Do they still swing? Do they still—
Geoff 11:34
They swing. Yes. They swing. So—
Georgie 11:37
They’re still gonna swing with the chains, you know?
Geoff 11:39
Yeah, I mean, overall, I just don’t like them in general. And we’ve had lots of them like, particularly in the bedroom because we actually, like open and close those ones quite often, that they fall down. And like they just keep falling. I’ve like, for the ones I can reach, I put like sticky tape around it. So they just don’tm don’t fall but now that some of the middle ones have fallen. Oh, yeah, nevermind, because—
Georgie 12:03
No, this is wrecked.
Geoff 12:05
Yeah.
Georgie 12:06
I think you need new blinds.
Geoff 12:07
It’s It’s so ridiculous. So for three years, I’ve been grumbling about it. I’m like, one day I’ll change these blinds. And now’s the time. Now’s the time to change to shades.
Georgie 12:22
Is this like the full screen?
Geoff 12:24
Yes. The roller, roller shades.
Georgie 12:26
Yeah, I have them. I think they’re called—
Geoff 12:29
Roller blinds.
Georgie 12:30
Blockout? Are they called block out blinds?
Geoff 12:32
Yeah, so there are, there’s like three different kinds, actually. There’s the blackout ones, which fully can’t see through, there are the sun transparent ones where you can actually see outside ish. And then there are these diffused ones where the light gets like a lightbox effect. But you can’t see outside. It’s not it’s not fully transparent, but it’s like, like a 0.5 opacity. For those people who know what that is. Actually 0.5 would be 50%, this is 0.05%, 5% opacity.
Georgie 13:15
That’s, that’s very low, like you really can’t see very much.
Geoff 13:19
Yeah. So—
Georgie 13:20
Wait, don’t you mean 0.95?
Geoff 13:22
Oh... oh yeah. True. 0.95.
Georgie 13:22
Because it’s closer to opaque, is close to 100% opaque.
Geoff 13:28
I always mix those up. Actually like opacity I think is tran, is transparent and I just like—
Georgie 13:34
No it’s not—
Geoff 13:37
...corrected myself just then.
Georgie 13:37
Whoops.
Geoff 13:38
It’s like the opposite. Anyways, so yeah, I think I’m gonna get—
Georgie 13:43
Were you considering—
Geoff 13:44
Yeah, I’m considering the diffused one plus the blackout ones. I don’t need to see the outside world.
Georgie 13:50
Double.
Geoff 13:52
Yeah double.
Georgie 13:53
But you want light to come in, right? Or is it like a problem for you, is there like a lot of light that you need?
Geoff 13:59
Light, light can still come in but then it gets diffused, the the trans, the more transparent one you can actually see the outside like, you can see shapes or buildings, but with diffused ones you can’t see shit.
Georgie 14:12
Ah, okay.
Geoff 14:13
So do I get triple roll, triple roll?
Georgie 14:17
No, that’s unnecessary.
Geoff 14:19
Totally.
Georgie 14:19
So I have like the I have the blackout ones. It’s fully opaque. And then when I open them I just see straight outside, like through the glass. It doesn’t bother me too much like, it’s, I want privacy—
Geoff 14:32
Previous episode. That, episode that you can see someone’s feet.
Georgie 14:37
No, like whatever at being able to see outside because I don’t mind seeing outside but it’s more about the light coming in. So—
Geoff 14:44
Exactly.
Georgie 14:45
Yeah, on some days it’s just I think during the winter or like during the autumn, which it is now. As as it gets, what do you call it, colder and because of our daylight savings and stuff. The sun coming in is is actually quite hot. And one time I had one of those, I’ve put it away now because of what happened. But you know, thos acrylic kind of boxes from Muji, like for storage. So I had one of those on my desk. And I am about a metre away from the window. And then we have a balcony. So the sun comes in, but I have, I had this box there, and I had some credit cards in there. And no joke, the sun warped my brand, at the time brand new credit card into this wavy mess, just by going through the acrylic of the box. And I thought that’s not very good. And then I also kind of, I have some like lipsticks here as well, which I’m like, maybe I should, either because I leave the blinds actually open overnight, because there’s not really any risk because we’re like, well above the ground and stuff. But—
Geoff 15:56
Yeah.
Georgie 15:57
Yeah, the sun does get quite hot in here. And so that’s where I don’t love to close the blinds even halfway, because there’s no light coming through. And that’s where I wouldn’t mind something like diffused or in the middle.
Geoff 16:11
That’s like, I think the diffused would be really good, because then I get like, light on my, my face for Zoom meetings and stuff like that. So I’m like, should I just get diffused for my desk, and then the rest of them can be blackout slash transparent. So but it will be really inconsistent. And I don’t think anyone would buy my apartment if I, if I made some really special case for this one window.
Georgie 16:44
They can just change it though. Who cares.
Geoff 16:47
They could, that is another thing, right? I’m not entirely sure how to tackle this yet. You can buy them yourself, you can measure your own thing and buy them and then get someone else to install it, or you just buy it from some place that can install it. I’m leaning towards the latter, purely because I don’t want to have to make this mistake, like, I could, I could measure it. But there’s like the different does two different types of measurements right, this one that’s, because my doors are in, outset? Inset? There’s a—
Georgie 17:23
Recessed?
Geoff 17:24
Recessed. Like recessed. So you could measure inside the recession, re, recess, or you can measure possibly outside the recess so that they would cover edge to edge.
Georgie 17:35
It’s too complicated.
Geoff 17:37
Or inside edge to edge.
Georgie 17:38
Yes.
Geoff 17:41
Yeah. So I could screw that up for sure.
Georgie 17:45
Just get a professional to do it.
Geoff 17:47
Exactly. I’ve also thought about like, how expensive to go, right? Because I’ll sell it in a couple years. I don’t want to put anything smart, or motorised in here.
Georgie 17:57
What do you mean, you don’t want it? But you’re Geoff.
Geoff 17:59
I know. I know. But I can’t just give that to people. I can’t charge people for it. It’s a really weird thing that you can’t do when you sell your apartment or—
Georgie 18:09
Okay. So if you had a very smart home, you’re saying it’s not, it doesn’t really increase the value of the—
Geoff 18:15
No.
Georgie 18:16
...the property.
Geoff 18:17
It’s because only a subset of people really care about that. And you have to find that subset of people amongst the thousands.
Georgie 18:24
Just casting my mind back to the elevator, in your house episode—
Geoff 18:28
Yeah exactly.
Georgie 18:29
Like, yeah.
Geoff 18:31
Yeah. Putting that in your house.
Georgie 18:32
Wait. That’s actually kind of not a bad thing, then because if you had a elevator in your house, or other things that made your house wheelchair accessible, and you were to sell it, then it’s not actually more expensive for like a disabled person who might—
Geoff 18:52
Yeah.
Georgie 18:53
Yeah. Who might want a home with those, like facilities?
Geoff 18:57
Yeah, I think a lift for, I think a lift does increase the value.
Georgie 19:02
OK. (laughs)
Geoff 19:04
Just putting it out there. It’s because if you walk in and you go, “ooh, a lift, that’s fancy. All right. I’ll pay a little bit more to get a lift because I think that’s really cool”. Maybe if you don’t care about lifts and they don’t wanna pay for it. It’s like a pool. I wouldn’t pay for a pool.
Georgie 19:19
Ah, yeah. What if it was an indoor pool, does it make it any different?
Geoff 19:24
Nope. I mean, the cost of like, maintaining a pool already, like steers me away.
Georgie 19:31
So you’re saying it’s fundamentally a value that the buyer puts on whatever it is, like if you don’t value a pool, you sure as heck are not gonna pay for it?
Geoff 19:42
Yeah, pretty much like this apartment. Yeah. We don’t have a pool or gym in the vicinity. So, and I wouldn’t have picked a place that had a pool or gym. Because you have to pay for it. And I don’t use any of that stuff. So whether or not someone would believe that, hey, are they gonna pay an extra, I don’t know, 10k because I put motorised blinds in, that that have a voice assistant. We’re probably not there yet.
Georgie 20:18
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 20:21
Maybe in 10, 15 years, that that would probably be like standard. You buy an apartment off the plan.
Georgie 20:29
It must come with—
Geoff 20:30
...smart blinds.
Georgie 20:32
Yeah.
Geoff 20:33
So hopefully, I don’t know. I’m maybe calling it too early for this episode. We’re, we’re, I don’t even know when this episode is going to air but by then I probably will have the blinds.
Georgie 20:43
(laughs)
Geoff 20:45
Who knows?
Georgie 20:47
You never know.
Geoff 20:48
Yeah. So I’m gonna switch up the blinds so that, ah man, see now that I’m looking at the options because I haven’t actually looked so looked at them. Transparent kind of would look nicer than the diffused, like imagine you walk into a room. And the two, two out of the three walls, you can see, like just big white, like light boxes. It’s not—
Georgie 21:13
Doesn’t sound bad, though.
Geoff 21:16
Yeah, but it looks like a kill room or like, oh—
Georgie 21:18
Oh my god, yeah, yeah.
Geoff 21:20
It’ll look like an interrogation or like a hospital. You know, everything just a bright white. That’s what I envisage, the apartment will look like if I had all the doors just covered in diffused blinds or shades.
Georgie 21:38
Yeah.
Geoff 21:39
So yeah, even if you have a look at the, this photo where it’s just blocks of light, it’s, it’s not that appealing to look at, but it makes it look like they’re walls. So—
Georgie 21:51
Nah, I don’t like it, like, those are the ones I have. They’re just straight up like white.
Geoff 21:55
Ah true. Maybe that’s it right? Maybe I gotta go for a cream ish colour.
Georgie 22:01
Like I don’t know if I think it’s that cool that it matches the wall, well I mean it doesn’t, well to me it doesn’t matter. It’s more like, is it functionally doing what you want? And it is.
Geoff 22:13
I’ll go black then. That’s it. Just remove all my choice.
Georgie 22:16
Yes.
Geoff 22:17
Just go with black. I don’t think I could sell black, it’ll have to be white or cream coloured as these things are at the moment. Also, don’t have to go through strata I think. I think I don’t, I think I just need to notify people that I’m doing some kind of work—
Georgie 22:35
Construction quote unquote?
Geoff 22:36
Construction.
Georgie 22:37
Yeah.
Geoff 22:38
But it doesn’t affect the facade or anything. So I’d have to go through anybody to do it.
Georgie 22:44
Nice.
Geoff 22:44
Which is good. I’ve always wanted a fly screen. Oh my windows.
Georgie 22:50
Oh, really?
Geoff 22:51
Yeah.
Georgie 22:52
I don’t know if I like them.
Geoff 22:53
I mean, they’re not aesthetically—
Georgie 22:54
Oh it’s more you’re saying more for like function, like you open the door. You want some like breeze in there, but you don’t want—
Geoff 23:00
Yeah exactly.
Georgie 23:01
Just open out to like, like flies and stuff coming in?
Geoff 23:04
Yeah.
Georgie 23:05
Yep.
Geoff 23:06
I’ve seen some retrofit versions where you can just get like a, like from Bunnings, or. Or, or what did they have one in, depot, Home Depot?
Georgie 23:16
Home Depot. Yeah.
Geoff 23:17
In America? Yeah. You can get like, they’re kinda like, just... how would you say, really long, wide pieces of mesh? And then you can like—
Georgie 23:29
And you can just—
Geoff 23:29
Stick them.
Georgie 23:30
...put it in? That sounds so rudimentary though. Like what do you?
Geoff 23:34
Yeah.
Georgie 23:34
Like how do you, how would you install it yourself?
Geoff 23:37
You just like stick it. And then like in the middle, there’s magnets and then you can like break apart the magnets to walk through? and they click back together? Yeah—
Georgie 23:46
Like a shopfront. It’s a bit of a—
Geoff 23:47
Yeah, shopfront.
Georgie 23:48
I’m surprised, I’m surprised you’re, you are even like interested. Yeah, that feels like imprecise, too imprecise for you.
Geoff 23:56
Which is why I don’t have them.
Georgie 23:58
Oh OK.
Geoff 23:59
I’m just telling you that they exist.
Georgie 24:02
Maybe I’ll get them. (laughs)
Geoff 24:04
The issue is that my ceilings are like two metres tall. So and they don’t make anything that’s that close.
Georgie 24:13
Wait as in, is that very tall or like...
Geoff 24:17
It’s taller than what you would use this fly screen for—oh look, two metres by 1.2?
Georgie 24:21
Oh.
Geoff 24:23
How about that? Okay, maybe we can do, oh, ooh, see? The problem here is that this one you stick onto the edge.
Georgie 24:32
Ah—
Geoff 24:32
Of a window.
Georgie 24:32
It’s permanent... it’s a permanent thing. Can you imagine, can you imagine if you just like on your, on your balcony (laughs) Just put a flyscreen so you couldn’t even exit.
Geoff 24:47
It’s like “ah as you can see, your entrance of the balcony”, and then just like, you can’t get there.
Georgie 24:52
That’ll reduce your cost of selling by 10k.
Geoff 24:56
Yeah.
Georgie 24:57
Nah fuck it. Just just cut a fucking hole in the mesh. (laughs)
Geoff 25:02
Tiny hole. For all the, for the, for your finger. Yeah it looks like these are all permanent stuff that you stick on your window which you can’t really do, it’s a bit of a bummer. But yes, you can do, you can do this, just stick one on.
Georgie 25:20
I feel like you just have to install an entire, would you have to install an entire door?
Geoff 25:26
Yes, see that‘s the the thing, right, you’d have to have a whole nother track, like nevermind the current track and then you gotta, it’s insane. Oh, look is this the—
Georgie 25:36
That might involve the strata, right.
Geoff 25:38
Yeah, definitely. Is this a PVC door curtain? Like that’s—
Georgie 25:41
Yeah, well, they—
Geoff 25:43
(laughs) Look at this lady.
Georgie 25:44
I love how she’s just demonstrating how to walk through like a curtain, like a PVC curtain.
Geoff 25:51
Yeah just standing on the precipice of exiting. Yeah, it’s all PVC. Kill room stuff again, like, for your, I don’t know, fridge.
Georgie 26:03
Oh, there’s your curtain.
Geoff 26:04
This is it. See? 90 by 200 centimeters no bueno baby.
Georgie 26:10
Dude that is even more kill room vibes than, than the white, than the clear PVC one I reckon.
Geoff 26:18
Really? This one’s a hard to clean. You got clear PVC. It’s like a like a freezer room. Walk into a freezer room.
Georgie 26:26
Seriously, this looks like creepy.
Geoff 26:29
Yes. Very. Oh, look, comes in white. Don’t worry. Don’t worry.
Georgie 26:35
Now it’s like hospital vibes.
Geoff 26:37
Gotta have them hospital vibes. I think this place will look so hospital as soon as I put up the diffused like shade.
Georgie 26:44
Really. Oh, gosh.
Geoff 26:46
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, you don’t put them down all day. I would like to have them down all day to be honest. Because then it’ll be less harsh light, like serious, like—
Georgie 26:56
Yeah.
Geoff 26:58
When I bought my dining table, it like, the care instructions literally said no direct sunlight. And oh my god it gets so much direct sunlight. I feel like it’s going to stain itself at some stage. Ah man. Anyway, so that’s like the whole—oh, look at that—twenty... nah that’s still window size.
Georgie 27:17
These actually look awful the more that I look at them.
Geoff 27:21
They’re, they’re very awful. They’re not at all, like, chic, or anything.
Georgie 27:29
Oh there was a beaded one.
Geoff 27:31
(laughs) A beaded one.
Georgie 27:32
Yeah there was a beaded one.
Geoff 27:34
I’m not, I’m not operating some kind of seance or some kind of fortune telling service. I’m sorry.
Georgie 27:40
Soon you’re gonna be buying crystals and having those diffuser things.
Geoff 27:45
Gotta gotta get rid of all that negative energy by hanging crystals.
Georgie 27:50
Yeah.
Geoff 27:52
But oh, look at that. Yeah, teak ball bead door. Yeah, that’s—
Georgie 27:59
Oh, that’s very...
Geoff 28:01
Yeah.
Georgie 28:01
I was gonna say ethnic, but I really don’t like saying that. But it’s literally it says teak Bali bead door.
Geoff 28:08
Yep. It’s like the kind you walk through when you go to like a massage place that has—
Georgie 28:14
Yes.
Geoff 28:14
Has a very particular theme to it.
Georgie 28:16
Yeah.
Geoff 28:17
Do you like massages?
Georgie 28:19
Do I like massages?
Geoff 28:20
Yeah.
Georgie 28:22
Well, I actually go and get like, a sports massage like every like six weeks or so.
Geoff 28:28
Do they make you do, do they do sports on you or something? Like dribble a basketball—
Georgie 28:31
Nah, it’s more like a physio, nah it’s more of like a physio thing because I go to the gym and stuff. So it’s good for like, like muscles, like it’s not meant to be like relaxing, so to speak, it’s meant to like ease or soreness from like working out and stuff like that. So I’ve not minded that because it does feel like, it feels like my muscles are relieved. I’ve done like the, I guess you can call them a spa massage. Where they might like use like a like a scented scrub or some kind of nice smelling oil on you or whatever. But because I find them quite expensive.
Geoff 28:31
Yeah.
Georgie 29:11
A bit indulgent. Maybe. Some people might describe it as. I don’t do them often. I’ve probably done like, three in my whole life. Maybe? Amd they were very nice, but—
Geoff 29:22
You haven’t found them worth your repeat.
Georgie 29:24
Well, it’s more that I only go and do them if we’re like going to a nice hotel where they have a nice service for that or whatever. Something like that.
Geoff 29:37
Get them to come up to the room.
Georgie 29:37
Oh, they might have like an actual like, they call it like a spa and then they’ve got other things like head, they’ve got like facials if you want to get nails painted and things like that. So they’ve got a dedicated place for that, and, because I don’t often have that kind of I don’t often travel or have a holiday that’s like, purely for like relaxation. I usually travel to sightsee or like, do active things like hiking, or like, you know, touristy stuff or just eating nice food, you know? So that doesn’t really fall into any part of my itinerary. So that’s probably why—and I don’t, yeah, I don’t go to like, I don’t even go to a resort where they have like, this spa place with that, those services. That’s very rare for that to happen for me.
Geoff 30:20
Yeah, I’ve I find it interesting. Some, I guess it’s not uncommon, but when, when you talk about the older generation, like maybe the 50s, the 50s, the 40s, the 50s, 60s that they like it tend to enjoy going to like resorts like, and like those cruises and stuff, but they’re just kind of like point A to B.
Georgie 30:45
Yeah.
Geoff 30:45
And I find it also very interesting and like, wait, so you just you go to Bali or whatever. And you just spen the entire time inside the resort, like?
Georgie 30:54
Yeah, there are a lot of younger people, like I think even our age or like, in the early 20s, who also like that. Like they like specifically go of Bali to like chill out like enjoy sitting by the pool, the beach, whatever.
Geoff 31:09
Yeah. Actually, on a tangent, you said like, a service to paint nails and they got me thinking how interesting it is that there’s a whole profession out there just to apply colour to someone’s nails.
Georgie 31:25
They don’t just do that. Some of them it depends on how you look at it.
Geoff 31:30
Yeah, I know they like can—
Georgie 31:31
You can do nail care. Yeah—
Geoff 31:33
Manicures and stuff like that.
Georgie 31:35
Some of them you can consider artists if like, you’re really fancy. Like they draw like little pictures like little animals or whatever or they theme your nails. Maybe you want to... I think some people do it for like conventions or like certain events.
Geoff 31:49
Oh, I’ve seen Pikachu ones. Yeah, I think I know someone that did them.
Georgie 31:53
Yeah. So you could you could say that they’re, they’re like, nail artists, because they do charge a lot per nail actually.
Geoff 32:00
Per nail!
Georgie 32:01
Yeah, so I don’t know if you know how much it costs like, like roughly but like to get your nails painted without so much of the other nailcare stuff, it costs, like anywhere between 20 to like $40 but then per nail to get like a bit of art, like sparkles or like you know, a little Pikachu, it will cost at least like I think another five to $10 per nail.
Geoff 32:24
Oh my god.
Georgie 32:25
So if you want to, yes, so it would cost you well over $100 if you really wanted something quite elaborate, because it does take them time as well. Although some of them I think are a little bit of a cop out because I remember I wanted nails once at the salon with a couple of the nails different colours, so not everything in the same colour. And they charged me for a different colour.
Geoff 32:49
Ugh.
Georgie 32:49
And I thought that’s a little bit of a cop out.
Geoff 32:52
I mean, like I’ve always I’ve always thought about you know, if there was a service that I could go in, just to get my nails cut, like—
Georgie 33:01
Yeah.
Geoff 33:02
Just to cut them. I probably pay it. But not probably not 20 bucks. I think it’s like 25 maybe average 25, $30 Just to get like a regular.
Georgie 33:13
Manicure?
Geoff 33:14
Like cut, cut and painted.
Georgie 33:19
You can—
Geoff 33:20
But I never, I never want the painting part. I just want I just want someone to go cut my nails.
Georgie 33:25
You can do that. I think. It depends. I think it depends where you go. But I think most salons, if you just say I just want to like cut and like what, trim.
Geoff 33:35
Yeah.
Georgie 33:36
And stuff. Yeah, cuz Nick actually started doing doing this recently where he goes in and he gets like one nail painted because he wanted he just wanted to try something different.
Geoff 33:45
Yeah.
Georgie 33:46
He also gets like a pedicure, but doesn’t get any of his toenails painted. He just gets it like buffed and clean.
Geoff 33:50
Oh. Actually, you know what?
Georgie 33:52
Yeah, so you can you can do that. And then you get like a little foot massage as well.
Geoff 33:57
Yeah.
Georgie 33:57
And I think that probably costs... I don’t think it costs any more than like $40 like and you don’t get them painted?
Geoff 34:03
Geez. I don’t know. See the thing is like you can cut them yourself. Off yourself.
Georgie 34:11
Yes, exactly. So I was gonna ask you, is there a reason why you want—
Geoff 34:15
It’s because I’m really lazy. (laughs)
Georgie 34:16
(laughs)
Geoff 34:19
Because like, every time I cut my nails, there’s always some period of time when I realise I haven’t cut them very well and they’re all sharp and jagged. And I’m like, you know what, oh man—
Georgie 34:27
So you want them to like shape it for you as well?
Geoff 34:31
To shape...
Georgie 34:31
Yeah.
Geoff 34:31
To like, file it and just like just make it nice.
Georgie 34:37
I reckon do it, I, it’s more it’s a lot it’s common to see like men going in there to get a—
Geoff 34:42
Oh I have no problem with, I don’t have any problem with the whole masculinity thing. I just don’t want to pay exorbitant prices to get my fingernails cut.
Georgie 34:50
I’m pretty sure if you just wanted like no polish, you just wanted like, you know your nails cleaned up. It would probably be about $20 at like an average.
Geoff 34:57
Yeah, I wonder how often I cut my nails actually. Like, I’ll put a timer now. So like what, what’s the date today? I’ll just not say the date—
Georgie 35:06
Not say the date because no one ever know... it’s funny because, like on the topic of nails, typically toenails grow... slower?
Geoff 35:17
I would love for someone to cut my toenails because they’re a little bit more difficult.
Georgie 35:21
Get a pedicure, man. Get a pedicure.
Geoff 35:22
Yeah, I’ll just do it all.
Georgie 35:24
Yeah, I find that toenails grow really slowly. And because of that, I just, I only cut them when I’m like, hey, these are getting long, they’re kind of ripping holes in my stockings or whatever. Or like, that’s a bit painful. So but so I don’t know the actual timeframe, but sometimes I’m like, oh shit, I should probably trim them.
Geoff 35:44
My, my indicator is if at any given time, my, I wiggle my toes, and one of them scratches the other. That’s that’s when it gets too long.
Georgie 35:56
Wait? As in scratches the other toe, or your nail?
Geoff 36:00
Like the edge, the toenail.
Georgie 36:02
Scratches the inside?
Geoff 36:03
Scratches the inside of my other toe like on the skin. Yeah, on the next toe like—
Georgie 36:08
How do you even. That’s so weird.
Geoff 36:10
Just curl my toes. Okay, so everybody’s toes are probably different heights.
Georgie 36:13
Yeah, exactly. That’s why I’m like, I don’t think this happens to me.
Geoff 36:17
It probably doesn’t happen to everybody. But yeah, all right, I guess like, it’s kind of like when you go into a restaurant, and I think someone, I can’t remember who said it, but every restaurant has the ingredients for a BLT. Or for those who don’t know, bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich. And or burger, right. So regardless of what’s on their menu, they have the ingredients for it. But will, if you asked for one, will they serve it to you?
Georgie 36:45
Wait did you say BLT?
Geoff 36:47
Yeah, BLT.
Georgie 36:48
Not gonna find that in a vegan place. They won’t have bacon.
Geoff 36:50
Yeah, exactly. Okay, well don’t go to vegan places and ask for BLT there. An MLT. How about that.
Georgie 36:57
An F, FLT, facon?
Geoff 36:59
Oh, facon?
Georgie 37:00
Yeah.
Geoff 37:01
Or an LLT, like a lentil, lettuce and tomato.
Georgie 37:05
Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 37:07
A mushroom lettuce and tomato, MLT? So, yeah, it’s like, it’s like one of those things, right? I didn’t know if I if I walk into the salon and asked them to just cut my nails, obviously, they could do it. But would they charge me for it?
Georgie 37:21
Okay, so this makes me think of think of hair cuts.
Geoff 37:24
Ah true.
Georgie 37:25
So the wash right? Because I used to go into places when I was younger, because my my parents were like, frugal. They’d say don’t do the wash. Just do like, like they’d wash my hair beforehand.
Geoff 37:36
Yeah.
Georgie 37:36
At home. And then they’d say, just do the do the cut. And then I don’t know. Do places do just a cut if you tell them to and I’m not talking about Just Cuts because it’s in the fucking name.
Geoff 37:48
Yeah. I like every time I sit in the in in a salon, they’ll ask me if I want a wash and I’m like, no, and then they’ll just cut my hair.
Georgie 37:59
But for me, it’s a default to wash the hair. But I also don’t really mind, but I, I tend to go there when I kind of need the hair washed anyway.
Geoff 38:08
Now the question is, could you go in there just for the wash? No.
Georgie 38:13
Oh, actually, that reminds me, right. So it’s maybe a little bit different for women? Because I think there are some societal expectations but my mum would also refuse the blow dry.
Geoff 38:22
Oh, what?
Georgie 38:23
So yeah, she just wants a cut and like get out of there.
Geoff 38:26
Oh OK that’s right.
Georgie 38:26
But you know, like I was saying Just Cuts like because they’re that company is called Just Cuts. It’s because they only cut hair. And—
Geoff 38:33
Do they really? Do they really do any—
Georgie 38:35
Yeah, there’s no, there’s no, what, there’s no sink there to wash it. It’s literally—
Geoff 38:38
(laughs)
Georgie 38:39
Yeah, it’s pretty affordable. If you know, that’s what you want. But my mum would always say no blow dry. Because sometimes that would actually, like bring up the cost quite a bit and take time.
Geoff 38:50
What, I can’t imagine, I guess for, for—
Georgie 38:52
If you got long hair—
Geoff 38:53
Or for long hair. I guess that could take more time. I’m like if I—
Georgie 38:57
You might want to style it as well. Like if you have long hair, maybe you want to wave it a little bit. You don’t just want it straight, but my mum would refuse that. So I know that I could say no. I could probably say no blow dry.
Geoff 39:12
Yeah.
Georgie 39:13
But...
Geoff 39:14
I think at the end they usually ask me and I get mainly like the Korean hairdressers. They usually ask if I want a wax at the end now that is questionable whether or not it will increase the price. And usually if I had my hair cut, like earlier in the day, then I might ask, then I might say yes to the wax.
Georgie 39:33
But if it’s like 6pm, you’re like, I’m going home, I don’t give—
Geoff 39:36
I don’t care. Yeah, sometimes—
Georgie 39:38
Yeah.
Geoff 39:38
It’s interesting just to see what they would do with my hair when they put wax in it. Because generally I’m very straight forward. I just want everything to stay in place. I’m not, I’m not like trying to make any kind of style, particular style. So that’s why I kind of let them go wild sometimes. But could you go in and ask just for wax? Can you just wax my hair?
Georgie 40:01
Well, you can ask just to style your hair, I guess.
Geoff 40:04
Oh yeah, true. I was thinking about the wedding packages. Like I think some people can go in there just to get like a trim and a styling. Because you’re going for a wedding. You’re not like hair cutting.
Georgie 40:16
Yeah. If you’re like going in for an event, I think they must have some kind of price for like, I just want to be done up or whatever.
Geoff 40:24
Yeah, yeah. Can’t go in there and ask for a combing. Can you like just comb my hair?
Georgie 40:30
Like, what do you, what are you trying to get out of it? Are you trying to—
Geoff 40:35
I don’t have a comb at home.
Georgie 40:36
Oh, really?
Geoff 40:37
Like can you just comb...
Georgie 40:38
Did you know that I did not like properly brush my hair for like eight years when it was really long.
Geoff 40:44
Woah.
Georgie 40:45
I just like, I think it’s I think it’s purely because I have straight hair. So I’d get up in the morning. Just put my hand through it, and it was fine. Like obviously, if you have more textur or curly haired that—
Geoff 40:58
That’s probably not gonna work. Ah well, hey, maybe you like that look. Maybe you like the look of your hair—
Georgie 41:04
Well, the, I like well, yeah, I liked it to be a bit messy at the time. But yeah, I know not everyone has that quote unquote, luxury.
Geoff 41:11
Yeah, usually I just put my hand through my hair as well. And then like, just pat it down.
Georgie 41:16
Actually, now that I think about it, now that my hair is short. Now I kind of do the same. I don’t really brush my hair either. I just make sure it’s not like a mess.
Geoff 41:25
Yeah. Speaking of a mess, the ending of this episode. So. You can follow us on @toastroastpod on Twitter. Yeah.
Georgie 41:35
Yes.
Geoff 41:36
Yeah. I mean, there’s a few other that’s popping up. We can maybe talk about that next episode.
Georgie 41:42
TikTok, nah, nah. I’m not posting shit on TikTok. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you find your podcasts and the big blow dry.
Geoff 41:52
Yeah. So new episodes every Monday. So see you next week.
Georgie 41:58
Bye.