Our two hosts discuss hair-drying woes and surreptitiously attempt to drop innuendos into this episode, completely unplanned and unrehearsed (as usual).
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Our two hosts discuss hair-drying woes and surreptitiously attempt to drop innuendos into this episode, completely unplanned and unrehearsed (as usual).
Geoff 0:00
Hi and welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host Geoff. And as always, I have my co host Georgie with me.
Georgie 0:18
Hello.
Geoff 0:20
Freshly blow dry.
Georgie 0:21
You know I didn’t get to finish it (laughs) takes too long.
Geoff 0:26
Wow if anybody, because I just realised that I I like said the word dry a little bit too late for the word “blow”.
Georgie 0:35
Oh did it so, sounds like—
Geoff 0:39
And you said you didn’t get to finish it? (laughs)
Georgie 0:41
(laughs) Sure that’s what that’s what. That’s what he said? That’s what she said?
Geoff 0:46
This is the podcast everybody, immature.
Georgie 0:50
No dude, that’s my kind of humour actually. I think my kind of humour is innuendos. Talking about shit.
Geoff 0:58
Literally figuratively.
Georgie 1:00
Yeah, making jokes about poo and just very like silly immature stuff.
Geoff 1:06
Yeah.
Georgie 1:06
Like my joking—
Geoff 1:06
I don’t know what is immature anymore?
Georgie 1:08
Well it’s kind of like, I’m an adult and just—actually you have a good point. How do I even define that?
Geoff 1:17
Yeah, I mean, like if you like the jokes from? I mean, like, um. What would be a super immature joke?
Georgie 1:24
For me, it’s like, like, things rhyming with poo or something. You know.
Geoff 1:28
Right.
Georgie 1:28
Or doing silly dances. I’m not afraid to be silly in like, gestures and dancing.
Geoff 1:38
Yeah, yeah. Anyways, yeah. You didn’t get to finish blow drying your hair?
Georgie 1:45
No, it takes like, and I have short hair still, like as in, I haven’t grown it out or anything. But it’s just always such a pain.
Geoff 1:55
Do you always blow dry your hair?
Georgie 1:57
I do now. Yeah. When my hair was longer, funnily enough, I would just leave it and let it dry naturally. But it takes so fucking long. Yeah.
Geoff 2:07
Yeah. I think my head naturally dries in no less than half an hour. Despite how short it is.
Georgie 2:16
Yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 2:17
Maybe it just retains water.
Georgie 2:20
I mean, could be like thickness. You know what I learned actually, when I was growing up, I thought I had thin... I thought I had thin fine hair. And I think I think I do. But the reason I thought that was because when I put my hair in a ponytail, it looked really really thin. It was not like lush, and you know, whatever. Like, I don’t know, models or something. And then as I got older, I think my hair was still the same fine texture. But there was like more of it, if that makes sense. So then when I tied my hair into a ponytail, it was thicker. And I was like, how did I, how did we get to this point? And and then I didn’t notice until I got a haircut. And like they didn’t cut much off. But there was a lot of hair or something like that.
Geoff 3:10
Yeah.
Georgie 3:13
Yeah.
Geoff 3:13
So did they charge you more?
Georgie 3:16
For cutting more? Oh my god, we’ve talked about this. Why? Why do you get charged more? If your hair is longer? You’re fucking cutting it off. We’ve totally, we have talked about this.
Geoff 3:29
Yeah, maybe? Because like, kinda doesn’t like, it’s interesting that the cost for women’s hair cuts are like astronomically higher. Maybe like—
Georgie 3:42
Pink tax?
Geoff 3:43
...you have to layer your hair or whatever.
Georgie 3:46
Well, the thing is, you don’t have to, right.
Geoff 3:48
Yeah, long hair. Short hair.
Georgie 3:51
It’s totally pink tax.
Geoff 3:53
Yeah.
Georgie 3:54
Because I’ve heard of women with not—yeah, I’ve heard women with shorter hair, like above shoulder length. And they just go to a barber. Not like a hairdresser quote unquote. And they just get charged the same as every other person that walks in whereas if they were to go to like a hairdresser, they would get charged like hundreds of bucks.
Geoff 4:19
Yeah, what hairdryer do you use? Do you have a particular one?
Georgie 4:23
I think my mum actually gave me mine. Like before I moved out so I just fucking took it with me. I think it’s like I think it’s just VS Vidal Sassoon? Or salon?
Geoff 4:32
Yeah, that’s—
Georgie 4:33
Oh, yeah. Is that—
Geoff 4:34
That’s the most common, right. The sassoon ones?
Georgie 4:36
Well, are they good?
Geoff 4:38
Except the Kmart ones, I guess.
Georgie 4:40
Yeah. It’s like your department store one. But I mean, it’s it’s all right. I think. I think the thing is, you have to learn how to use one properly.
Geoff 4:50
Yeah, cuz. So I got the Dyson supersonic one recently.
Georgie 4:55
Fuck yeah.
Geoff 4:57
It’s officially for my partner but It my hair hasn’t been exactly like—
Georgie 5:03
No, you just want to try it. You just wanted to try it.
Geoff 5:07
Well, the thing is, like, I realised that I’m putting more wax in my hair because I don’t exactly like the way they’ve cut it. And so I started using the blow dryer to style it instead.
Georgie 5:20
Yeah.
Geoff 5:21
And it seems to have like, pretty good results without having to use any other hair products. And I get, yeah, and I get nice warm hair. So it’s not bad it’s also like super small, right, so that’s kind of the—
Georgie 5:40
It’s like slim right, the Dyson one.
Geoff 5:42
It’s quite slim.
Georgie 5:43
Yes. Mine is like a fucking chunky boy. It’s like, how do I describe it? It’s like, oh—
Geoff 5:50
Engine.
Georgie 5:51
Yeah, it’s like a full on like, bigger than a water bottle or something. Very, very chunky. And so something I learned is that it helps to hold it by the actual like, not by the bottom handle but by the whole like, you know, like you know, yeah, like in the middle like where it like what do you call it? Where it comes, where it meets the actual, man? What do you, how do you name these? Where it meets the actual blowing part?
Geoff 6:17
Funnel thing? I don’t know. It’s like a bad, bigass... eggplant. (laughs)
Georgie 6:26
(laughs) Wait, was that, was that an innuendo?
Geoff 6:29
No?
Georgie 6:30
You said “big ass eggplant”.
Geoff 6:31
(laughs) But the thing is with the Dyson one that I’ve found and liked about its size is that I can mount it.
Georgie 6:46
(laughs)
Geoff 6:46
Like, because we have a cheaper hairdryer but it’s just like shoved in the bottom.
Georgie 6:54
Just stop, you’re going like down.
Geoff 6:58
Shoved in the bottom cabinet. Right in there.
Georgie 7:02
Is that assault?
Geoff 7:03
Like really hard. And and you know what, if something’s not accessible, it doesn’t get used. So I’ve got this whole like, DIY makeover type thing where I mount the—
Georgie 7:19
Geoff’s just mounting stuff, everybody.
Geoff 7:22
Yeah, hairdryer, aggressively against the cabinet.
Georgie 7:27
This is going so wrong.
Geoff 7:30
Like the side of the cabinet, because I’ve got like a mirror double mirror cabinet or whatever.
Georgie 7:34
Yeah, see, I have that, and I—
Geoff 7:35
Like, put the head dryer on the side of it and then have it at hands reach at all times. Which would be good.
Georgie 7:43
Yeah. So I had to rejig my entire side shelf because it doesn’t fit in those mirror cabinets for me. So I had to change the shelving on the sides so that the actual height of the unit could fit like just for storage, because there’s nowhere for me to actually kind of mount, mount the hairdryer—
Geoff 8:04
Mounted in the bathroom? (laughs)
Georgie 8:06
I think we all secretly get mounted in the bathroom at some point. Anyway, I think there is a technique to—
Geoff 8:18
Mount things?
Georgie 8:20
Technique for mounting?
Geoff 8:21
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 8:21
Yeah, because when I was a kid, when I was a teenager, I would just point the head—(laughs) proved our sense of humor in this in this podcast episode. I would just like point the head of the hairdryer at my head.
Geoff 8:39
Yeah.
Georgie 8:40
And just move it around and just move my hair up and down. (laughs) I think we’re just turning this into a dirty episode. Anyway. So the trick that—I feel like the challenge should be to not laugh while saying say these things. Or maybe I should be trying to make you laugh. Anyway. Pointing the hairdryer at my head and just hoping that it would dry evenly but when you watch them do it at the hairdresser they get like the different attachments and they actually have a purpose, like I have a diffusing one. Like—
Geoff 9:18
Oh yeah, yeah.
Georgie 9:19
A big circle where it diffuses the, it’s like a disc and you attach that to the head of the hairdryer and—
Geoff 9:26
It’s supposed to be for like curly hair right?
Georgie 9:29
I don’t know it’s supposed, supposed to be but I think it’s better if you do have curly hair but it generally like disperses the air a bit more and gives you a better result but it’s it’s pretty slow. At least for me with—I have straight hair.
Geoff 9:48
And that’s the that’s the thing with the Dyson one it’s like, we were thinking of going into the Dyson store. Yes Sydney has a like a Dyson store as if it’s like an Apple Store. Um, it’s just outside Wynyard station on George Street. I think. Yeah. And you can go in there and they’ll style your hair using the Dyson products—
Georgie 10:10
In the store?
Geoff 10:11
In the store and they’ll basically to teach you how to use it—
Georgie 10:14
Are you obligated?
Geoff 10:14
And sell you on buying it.
Georgie 10:16
Are you obligated to buy it, do you have to?
Geoff 10:17
No you could walk in there, every morning and get your hair done for the day.
Georgie 10:21
Can someone test this?
Geoff 10:25
So yeah, we’re like, oh, yeah, maybe it’d be good idea. Because this stuff is like, it’s, like you said you could just point it at your hair. Or you could go get some direction on how to use these things. With YouTube videos, sure. But then it’s hands on I think might be better.
Georgie 10:44
Yeah, so I use the attachment that looks like a... slit?
Geoff 10:51
(laughs) You have no other words to describe it?
Georgie 10:54
I did that on purpose, though. Wait, you know what I actually don’t know. It’s like a, a small. Yeah. And you know what, it is, it is a slit. The one that’s like a slit because the air comes in like a blade. I guess you can imagine the air comes out like a blade. And then so what I do is I get a round—and yeah, it makes a difference—a round bristled brush. And I kind of—
Geoff 10:54
Oh, you do the—
Georgie 11:06
Wrap, wrap my hair, I guess, I don’t know. So basically, I watched my hairdresser do it. And he was like, you should get a round brush. And so I sort of copy what he does. And yeah, on the underside of my hair, I put the round hairbrush. And then I point the hair dryer downwards. I’ll like angle it slightly downwards and like move it down the length of my hair. Now the thing is, when you’re doing this on someone else, I guess it’s easy because it’s someone else’s head. But when you’re doing your own head and your hair is like—so my hair length is just past my shoulders. If it was longer, it would just be like yeah, whoo, whatever. But it’s like if I’m trying to get back, try to do this technique. I’m like, I fucking can’t reach and the hair is not long enough. So it’s like, you know, and then I was joking with my hairdresser. I was like, it’s at the length where it’s just kind of it’s not long enough, or like short enough to fully do. And he’s like, yeah, I’m just here going, du du du du.
Geoff 12:14
So you just get your partner to learn how to do it. And they’ll do it to your hair.
Georgie 12:18
Oh, I don’t think Nick would ever even bother. What’s that hook?
Geoff 12:25
The main—huh?
Georgie 12:25
The hook attachment?
Geoff 12:26
Yeah, yeah. So the main thing is that we wanted to reduce flyaways with this hook—
Georgie 12:31
Oh my god, please tell me, does it work? Like, tell me more because—
Geoff 12:35
Well it hasn’t arrived yet. The thing is, when we bought this, they had a deal on the Supersonic Origin. I don’t understand what the difference between the Supersonic and the Supersonic Origin is, but one’s cheaper than the other. So we’ve got the Supersonic Origin, Origin. It doesn’t cost like, it costs $100 more, almost 100 bucks more, just to come without all of all of the attachments. So this thing comes with what 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 attachments?
Georgie 13:10
Yeah.
Geoff 13:10
$100 more.
Georgie 13:11
OK.
Geoff 13:12
So got the one that only comes with the slit attachment. So then I bought the flyaway thing separately, and then they get, they get shipped separately. So now I’m just kind of waiting for the—
Georgie 13:28
Wait how much is it for the flyaway?
Geoff 13:31
50 bucks for the flyway by itself.
Georgie 13:33
Right, and you didn’t need all the other. You don’t need all the five attachments.
Geoff 13:37
I don’t need the five attachments. Yeah, five attachments included, one attachment included. Seemed like a—
Georgie 13:43
Hmm, if you need the five, then I would say that’s a pretty good deal. Like not deal, but as in like for a hundred more. It’s like, oh, yeah.
Geoff 13:52
That’s true. It’s 20 bucks each, technically, I guess. In which case, yeah, yeah, it would be better. But yeah, don’t need all the other ones, like your diffuser one.
Georgie 14:01
Yeah.
Geoff 14:02
What you call it, they’re for different hair, gentle air.
Georgie 14:05
And then there’s a wide tooth comb, which is for curly hair. And then there’s the gentle layers for fine hair. So I mean, like your hair hair type’s not going to change. So this is kind of like maybe if you have like—
Geoff 14:15
Haha that‘s true.
Georgie 14:15
If you have like a salon you’d probably use this right? If you’re professional.
Geoff 14:20
You mean my hair is not gonna I’m not gonna wake up tomorrow with lengthened, curly, and textured hair?
Georgie 14:27
No, like, I mean, I know people who have naturally curly hair might get like a chem, like chemically straight, like, they get a treatment, you know, but I mean.
Geoff 14:37
Yeah.
Georgie 14:38
I mean, unless you’re changing your—no, still, I think these attachments are specifically based on your hair type. Not like your hair style. So.
Geoff 14:47
Yeah, the so the interesting thing is like I like to—I sometimes take a shower a little too late at night, and I’m like I, ah I’m fucking tired.
Georgie 14:59
Don’t want to sleep with—
Geoff 15:00
I need to sleep. So I need to dry my hair.
Georgie 15:03
Yeah.
Geoff 15:03
So it’s good to have a hairdryer around. But I’ve never thought about using it to style my hair until my head got horrendously cut. So, so yeah I got the hair, hair dryer, predominantly for my partner. But here we go. Going, getting into the hair drying business.
Georgie 15:26
I don’t, I don’t know if I would buy one.
Geoff 15:29
Probably not. I mean, it goes on sale, it was $100 less than this.
Georgie 15:33
I don’t know if it’s like, is it gonna perform better than my, you know, department store one that I’ve had for like six years or whatever? Or seven years? Yeah I can’t remember, but like...
Geoff 15:45
But you should go into the Dyson store and find out.
Georgie 15:48
I feel embarrassed though. Like, I don’t want to go in there and ask them to do my hair. (laughs)
Geoff 15:55
Literally there to do your hair, and then tell you about all the products and then you can, you probably walk out with one.
Georgie 16:02
What if I don’t, like that’s the thing? What if I literally want to go there—
Geoff 16:05
Then they’ve failed in their job. And that’s sales. You know? It’s like you go to the stores and they give you a free piece of chocolate. You don’t buy anything, you just get the free piece of chocolate. But there’s a 50, 50 I don’t know probability on this, but there’s 50, 50 chance you would taste the chocolate and go, yeah, I’d like a pack.
Georgie 16:23
Is this. Is this is kind of like when you’re like a market or something. Or food market and they have samples for every...
Geoff 16:31
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 16:32
...thing and you kind of want to try before you buy.
Geoff 16:34
You go into an ice cream store. Yeah. And you taste ice cream.
Georgie 16:40
You know what, there’s something about it that still makes me feel bad. Like—
Geoff 16:44
Yes.
Georgie 16:44
Like I look at, they’re looking at the selection of 20 plus different flavours. Also, I pretty much, my eyes just gravitate to the dairy free ones because otherwise I’ll be on the loo. And, and like still, they’re like, “You want to try one?” and I’m like, I don’t know, that doesn’t like it feels for some reason... I feel like—
Geoff 17:07
You’re cheating them out of their money.
Georgie 17:08
Yeah... I don’t know. It’s like I feel like I need to look at the flavours, pick one, and be like, trust in my instinct that it is a good one and then not try it, and then... you know.
Geoff 17:20
Oh... well—
Georgie 17:20
Because, because what if, what if, you try like two, right? You’re deciding between two and then what if you can’t decide and you’re like, oh shit, and you don’t—what if you don’t want to buy both of them and you’re standing there trying to make a decision? Or what if you try like five, and you like them all but you’re not going to go out with a five scoop ice cream. So you’re standing there kind of awkwardly going oh, which one did I like better?
Geoff 17:42
You’ll come back.
Georgie 17:43
Because like your palate is mixed with five different flavours, you’re like, did I like the second one that I like? Or did I like the like the second one I tried, or the first one, or like the one I just had? Which one was which? And the, you’re like, oh shit, like, by then like, you’ve sampled five things. It’s basically a scoop at that.
Geoff 18:01
So analysis paralysis and you just walk out. We went to an ice cream place in Melbourne that sold this thing called a durian chiffon cake.
Georgie 18:14
OK.
Geoff 18:14
Like ice cream gelato thing. I just bought a scoop blind. My sister tried one and two, like one, that flavour, and a different flavour and then chose to go with the durian one, and in the end it wasn’t very good. So I was like why the hell did my sisters choose it even though it didn’t taste very good. Yeah, it was brutal. But here you go, complimentary styling demo, book your demo session or visit us in store for our hands on trial and discover which hair care technology gives you the best results.
Georgie 18:51
Yeah, wow.
Geoff 18:52
It sounds like you walk in but you can also book
Georgie 18:57
This is funny right? Because what just like a bunch of episodes ago talking about the Dyson air filter and giving it a big diss, like the, the headphone air filter thing. Yeah, now I’m just like hang on. Why is Dyson—
Geoff 19:11
They’re good at some things.
Georgie 19:12
Why are they styling your hair? Like I thought they—it’s a bit unusual, I guess?
Geoff 19:20
Yeah, the other thing is I don’t quite trust the Dyson robot. Despite it coming from Dyson. I just don’t know. I’ve been brainwashed into believing the robo rock ones are the best. And—
Georgie 19:36
Have you tried, you tried a few right? Or, you—
Geoff 19:39
No, I’ve only done one.
Georgie 19:40
Oh OK.
Geoff 19:42
Actually, I was I was at a gathering like today and someone was saying that they had tried a lot of... I don’t know if you know what this is? Let me try and pull up a video.
Georgie 19:53
Okay.
Geoff 19:53
Picture of it. It’s a Joseph Joseph. Have you heard the brand?
Georgie 20:01
It sounds vaguely familiar.
Geoff 20:03
They do kitchen stuff.
Okay.
Kitchen stuff. And—
Georgie 20:09
I don’t know if I like where this is going. But sure.
Geoff 20:13
Where’s this thing? Anyways? It’s like a, it’s like a paper towel holder... where is it? I can’t even search this stupid website.
Georgie 20:22
A paper towel holder?
Geoff 20:24
Yeah.
Georgie 20:25
Hmm.
Geoff 20:25
Paper—
Georgie 20:25
It sounds bad already. Like, why would you need something to hold...? Nah—let’s see, let’s see.
Geoff 20:31
The paper. So it’s easy to access for times of need.
Georgie 20:37
Are you talking about? Like, in the—yeah, in the kitchen, right.
Geoff 20:42
In the kitchen. Oh, that’s interesting. I never saw this one. It’s like a attachment that you can stick on your inside of a cabinet and put knives in it.
Georgie 20:52
Wait, wait.
Geoff 20:52
Like to store your knives.
Georgie 20:54
Geoff, what happens when you close the door? It’s just gonna be in the way of the shelving.
Geoff 20:58
Yeah, it’s like, the shelving just needs to be a little bit inset. You know, we don’t concern ourselves with imperfect scenarios. Why didn’t the paper towel thing come up? Anyway. So this is it’s kind of like there’s a base. And then there’s like a stick?
Georgie 21:15
Yeah, so I have one, it’s just like a metal thing.
Geoff 21:18
It’s a metal thing.
Georgie 21:19
Okay, so what’s good about this one?
Geoff 21:21
So the number one problem, what do you think is, what do you feel as a number one problem with just a—
Georgie 21:25
Oh. Far out. I know where this is going.
Geoff 21:29
Yeah. So there’s a button on the top, which you can press that will put that will keep the roller in in place while you pull the—
Georgie 21:36
While you tear it. Yeah.
Geoff 21:37
Tear it off. So you can press the button, tear it, and then it’ll be really easy. Apparently, someone in this gallery was like, oh, it’s their house. And they’re saying well, oh, it was a housewarming. They said that they went through a lot of these.
Georgie 21:52
Okay, wait, hang on before before you go through... I’m thinking like, so you said, there’s a button that you press and then you tear it off, or wait, it tears for you?
Geoff 22:01
No, no, no, you can, you pull, you press the button, and then you can pull on the roller and the roller will not spin anymore. And then you can, it’ll tear, it’ll tear easily.
Georgie 22:11
Okay, so the way I normally use one, or the ones I’ve seen, there’s usually a bar on the outside that you tear the excess against.
Geoff 22:23
Oh. It just—
Georgie 22:24
Yeah, it’s not just a roll. Right? It’s not simply a roll. But there’s like a bar on the outside. That—
Geoff 22:34
Oh, here’s one they do this, where they’re—
Georgie 22:38
Yeah, so like there’s a—
Geoff 22:39
How does this work? Okay, cool. So that so you put it in, squeezes it against it. And then you can now you can pull it off. Oh, you wrap it around.
Georgie 22:55
Yeah. Hang on. Yeah. So this is just a nice version of the metal ones that people have. So what is this? What’s so fucking special?
Geoff 23:02
This one.
Georgie 23:02
Okay. All right.
Geoff 23:03
The one I’m talking about. So you press the top.
Georgie 23:06
Yep.
Geoff 23:06
Then it stops it from rolling, and then you can pull it off. Your one requires a wraparound of some sort. Some kind of—this is a smooth...
Georgie 23:15
This is so ridiculous.
Geoff 23:17
Anyways, I didn’t realise that there were so many combinations of this stuff that someone could try out different versions. So.
Georgie 23:25
Yeah.
Geoff 23:26
That was really interesting. And then someone asked, and then I said, oh, this is like me and my monitors. And they said, wait, what about you and your monitors? So I literally went through each monitor. I dunno, you should—if anyone hasn’t listened to it, there’s an episode about monitors somewhere—where I went through each monitor, and I tried every single combination, dual, ultra wide, mini, ultra wide, single 32 inch, etc. And they were like, wow, you’re really dedicated to getting the monitor right?
Georgie 23:58
Well, you wanted the thing you wanted, like you knew what you wanted, and you couldn’t find it, right? You were trying—
Geoff 24:04
I tried to, I tried every combination, because I didn’t—
Georgie 24:09
But as in you were trying to find something optimal. So you had to try it.
Geoff 24:12
Yeah.
Georgie 24:13
Yeah.
Geoff 24:13
Yes.
Georgie 24:14
It’s like when I was looking for fucking jeans. Oh my god, actually, speaking—
Geoff 24:20
Oh, that’s right. You renewed your war on jeans.
Georgie 24:22
Oh, yeah. Here we go. Yeah, well, let’s revisit, so I... I don’t know if I’d call them jeans because they’re like, I don’t know if you saw the picture. But—
Geoff 24:30
Skinny jeans.
Georgie 24:30
Hey,
Geoff 24:31
Jeggings.
Georgie 24:32
No, it’s because they’re not denim looking. You know, what do you what would you say denim is like, it’s like, blue, black. It’s like rough. Yeah. So.
Geoff 24:43
Slightly coarse.
Georgie 24:45
Yeah. Like this. These are green. These are bright green. These are like emerald green.
Geoff 24:52
Wow.
Georgie 24:52
So a while ago, I came across this brand on Instagram no less. And they’re called Kojo Fit And they make clothes that are supposedly for people with athletic bodies. And I was like, okay, that’s cool. I will—
Geoff 25:07
Do you think you have an athletic body?
Georgie 25:10
Yeah, I lift shit. And I have a big, I have a big butt and legs and, you know, a wide back and stuff. And I have muscular definition. Anyway. Like, I’m usually skeptical of like, clothing brands that are designed for athletes, because there’s a common thing where they like to make things really tight. For some reason.
Geoff 25:36
But you’re an athlete. Do you want to be athletic in them? Or not?
Georgie 25:41
No, it’s kind of—like for some reason, it’s kind of like you see girls who do like bodybuilding and they’re always wearing, wearing like, tight jeans—or a lot of them wear tight jeans, tight tops. And sometimes, like, I don’t want to wear all tight clothes. Right. And I don’t think everybody—
Geoff 25:58
Don’t want to be constricted.
Georgie 26:00
Yeah, exactly. No, I don’t think everyone—you know, guys, I don’t think every guy who’s got big muscles wants to be wearing a tight business shirt. By the way, it looks really bad. So don’t wear a shirt that’s really tight. It shouldn’t be tight, tight. So anyway.
Geoff 26:12
What do you mean, you don’t want to be busted out of your—
Georgie 26:15
Yeah, it looks terrible. It looks terrible. I’m like... it. There’s there’s definitely a there’s a line. There’s a fine line, when a dude is wearing a shirt that is just closely fitted to his body. Right? You know, kind of like skinny jeans, right? Or, it’s, it’s too tight. Like you’re looking at it and you’re like, yeah, I can fully see your pec busting out of there. You know, like the buttons are just ever so slightly gaping.
Geoff 26:43
That was my, my first, their first pass on my custom.
Georgie 26:47
You’re just like—
Geoff 26:48
Business shirt was too tight.
Georgie 26:50
Yeah, or like pants where it’s—wait, did you? Wait, did we cut this for an episode? I can’t remember. But I think you said you had anyway. I’m just gonna say you said you had a like a friend, whose partner? Like his pants were kind of obviously too tight. There was a picture. There was a picture of him where his pants were obviously too tight.
Geoff 27:11
Oh.
Georgie 27:12
You vaguely remember—yeah, I didn’t want to like dive deep.
Geoff 27:15
You could see the eggplant.
Georgie 27:16
(laughs) Yeah, so anyway, I was skeptical about this Kojo fit brand because I was like, I bet all their pants—
Geoff 27:23
Can’t show your eggplant.
Georgie 27:28
This is, this is the eggplant. I’m pointing at my microphone.
Geoff 27:31
Yes.
Georgie 27:34
Can’t unsee.
Geoff 27:35
Is that a microphone in your pants or are you happy to see me?
Georgie 27:37
(laughs) Anyway, I tried on the pants, like this was years ago that I came across this brand. And then recently, I was like, you know what, I’ll try it. So at least, if if it sucks, then I just won’t buy from them again. I’ll just return the shit and I won’t buy from them. But they said, blah, blah, blah. Our pants are like for people with athletic bodies. And they have a tapered fit. And I’m like, pkay, fine. Fine. All right. I can see your models are like muscular and shit. Let’s give this a try. I sized up though, because I was like, they look fucking tight. So I think they will still make them tight. I was like, I’ll get like, I’ll get a size bigger and they fit really well. Okay, I’m not even joking. Like, they’re not like squeezing my like thighs. They’re not like, they’re not like gaping at the waist. And so they actually fit kind of like they fit nicely, so I’m impressed.
Geoff 28:28
Yeah. So we’re not sponsored but how much are these?
Georgie 28:34
Oh yeah, so I bought like a bright green pair and then like a blue like, even the blue one was like this colour, or whatever, this colour?
Geoff 28:43
Yeah, navy, dark...
Georgie 28:45
Yeah, not, so like, a kind of like, kind of like a chino Look, do you know what I mean? Like they’re not denim. They’re not like, they don’t have that rough feel. They’re like more like chino pants. So I think, man there were some, they were somewhere between 100 and 200, now I don’t remember exactly how much they were. But the blue ones I think they were marked down to like 60 bucks or something because they were discontinuing that coluor. So you know, decently decently, what’s the word, priced and I think the comp, fabric composition is like 98% cotton. So it’s still like it’s not like just fully spandex stretchy like legging jegging thing. It’s like legit pants. So I was, I was pretty impressed.
Geoff 29:29
Yeah, sounds sounds good. It’s kind of like most of Uniqlo’s pants, I think, they’re generally—
Georgie 29:35
Chino-like?
Geoff 29:35
Bit more spandex, more chino-like, or at least they have a whole range for that now.
Georgie 29:42
Oh yeah. I had a pair of pants from Uniqlo like ages ago, had just, they looked like tailored like what do you call it? Like, like suit pants but they were elastic waist. So it was like the illusion of a suit pant but it was just like, like a very neat elastic waist as well. And so I was like, yeah, this is great. And then my butt got too big for them. So even when I went to go to the toilet, I’d be like, ugh, trying to pull them down to pee. I was like, great. I need to buy like a bigger size, but then they stopped making them and I was sad.
Geoff 30:16
What a bummer.
Georgie 30:17
Don’t you hate it when they discontinue shit, like fuck, man.
Geoff 30:19
Yeah, like Steve Jobs was apparently famous for... He was famous for his turtleneck, if people didn’t know. And he also was he, he bought a lot of them. But also the store that he bought them from was discontinuing them. So he was like, alright, they’re not getting enough orders for it. So he asked, how many orders do you need to fulfill? Like, how many items do you need to for single order, like to actually—
Georgie 30:56
Manufacture.
Geoff 30:57
Manufacture, in order to manufacture they said something of the order of like, 1000, or one and a half thousand. And he’s like, all right, give me one and a half 1000 of these so he—
Georgie 31:07
Really?
Geoff 31:08
He actually bought loads of his own turtleneck because they’re going away.
Georgie 31:14
Wow.
Geoff 31:15
But, the funny thing is that I have one of the this like very, it’s like one of the heat tech more cotton feeling, thicker shirt, long sleeve shirts.
Georgie 31:29
Yeah.
Geoff 31:30
I don’t know if you’re supposed to wear them inside or outside. Whatever. I wear them.
Georgie 31:33
Isn’t heattech meant to be like meant designed to be like a thermal kind of under thing, undergarment—
Geoff 31:39
Yeah, somewhat of a thermal thing. And I can’t tell if they discontinued or I can’t find, I can’t find it in their store. But if I’m walking around and I’m like, we’re trying to find that one thing, and I’ve only got one of them and I need, I want another one but can’t seem to find it again. I’m like, man, if they discontinued it, then I’m just gonna have to get the new version, which I did. But I don’t quite like it.
Georgie 32:05
Oh, doesn’t it suck when the new version is shit.
Geoff 32:08
Yeah, my bags new version is absolutely shit.
Georgie 32:10
Oh, yeah. Went through the bag thing as well.
Geoff 32:12
Yeah, I think I’ve landed on like a one of the Nomadic bags. Ehh.. I think you got a Bellroy—
Georgie 32:22
Yes. I got the Bellroy transit backpack. 38 litres.
Geoff 32:28
That’s right. You got a bloody big ass 38 litre one.
Georgie 32:31
Well, because like, for me, this was my entire actual thing, like, my entire bag, like not just like a day bag. So I was like yeah.
Geoff 32:39
Yeah, I’m trying to use mine as a day bag. So this is actually, see how it got an expansion slot. So I think it goes up to, I can’t even remember the description.
Georgie 32:50
20 litres. Yeah.
Geoff 32:52
To 30 litres, so it goes from a 20 to a 30 litre which is kind of cool. So the, yeah, so the the my my current backpack version two absolutely sucks. So I’m looking at another bag. Oh man, these backpacks are too expensive.
Georgie 33:11
They are, very, hey, that one’s yeah, that one’s 452, I think mine was about the same price. But bigger.
Geoff 33:20
On my, on my mobile devices when I look at this travel pack it the 14 litre costs 419 and this one costs 448.
Georgie 33:31
Wait, are you serious? You go you go on a different device, smaller device, and it makes—are you?
Geoff 33:37
Yeah yeah.
Georgie 33:39
No fucking way.
Geoff 33:40
Differently priced per? I think it’s because it’s some cookies or something like that. If I go into incognito on this, it’ll probably give me a different price.
Georgie 33:47
Oh my god, I would not trust this. If I found that out. I’d be like you fucking scheming.
Geoff 33:52
All ecommerce websites do this. Or—
Georgie 33:56
Wait, what’s the most notorious one. Booking.com
Geoff 33:59
Booking.com? Oh dude.
Georgie 33:59
I’m not, I’m not embarrassed to admit that I do still use that website.
Geoff 34:04
So bad. So bad.
Georgie 34:07
Do you use it at all?
Geoff 34:08
Not anymore. I will maybe do it like, recent, oh look at that, recent search here for Shibuya because, hey, booked trip to Japan next year. Woo.
Georgie 34:20
Weew. I thought you don’t like telling people where you’re fucking going.
Geoff 34:23
Well, next year is a very long period of time.
Georgie 34:26
And you don’t even know when this episode’s being published.
Geoff 34:29
And I don’t even know if anyone will remember this episode.
Georgie 34:33
Hello to our three listeners.
Geoff 34:37
Yeah, so booking.com. Maybe I’ll look for, look to it. Because—
Georgie 34:43
As a reference?
Geoff 34:45
It’s some... Yeah, reference. Some good filters, like you can actually find rooms that are like one and two beds or something like that.
Georgie 34:51
Yeah.
Geoff 34:53
A lot easier. I don’t know. Anyways, there are some deals here you cannot get but... Is that at the expense of the level of service you can get from booking directly?
Georgie 35:09
Yeah see like if... Yeah, I think it depends. I would definitely look into buying—sorry, buying—booking directly if you can.
Geoff 35:21
I think there are, the thing is that someone I think it was my friend was telling me that if you book directly they have more or less the same deals. They can’t, they can’t, be that different from what they give out on booking.com and stuff like that. So it’s all a scam sometimes, they’ll tell you, oh, it’s a one hour One Hour Sale. This is mobile only, like book online, book now.
Georgie 35:49
I think I’m conditioned to oh, we all are conditioned to kind of skim past those things, right? Because I think I look at the price and go okay, is that in my budget or whatever? Am I cool with that? What are the features? I dig into the reviews. Because I want to know what people say you know, that gives me a good idea of like what to expect so, yeah.
Geoff 36:12
So I got recommended this airport. Airport Hotel. It does though knows there’s the, there’s a hotel called the Royal Park inside Tokyo Haneda Airport. So if you have a really tricky early flight like we are going to have, you can book a night at this hotel, literally go downstairs, check out your hotel, and check into the flight.
Georgie 36:36
Have you been in one before?
Geoff 36:38
I have not been inside a whatchamacall it, hotel, an airport hotel.
Georgie 36:44
I think we were trying to I think we had a really long stopover somewhere. And we were trying to get into one just have a nap. But it was really expensive, it was like this, or, it was like the same as one night, it was like ah, fuck it.
Geoff 36:55
Yeah. So someone showed it to me on booking.com for $254 for one night.
Georgie 37:02
Okay.
Geoff 37:03
And I was like, hmm, do I value? How much do I value? This? This deal. And now I’m just going to check, let’s do this.
Georgie 37:15
I don’t even really think it’s like, literally my eyes skim past the, uh, bla bla, “there’s only one left”. And this, is the deal and whatever. I’m just like, just the what is the price? Just what is the price?
Geoff 37:26
302. So there was kind of a deal. I don’t know if this is the correct room, but it seems to be the cheapest room. So maybe it was a deal. Anyways, yeah, this whole website’s in Japanese despite me asking for English.
Georgie 37:41
That’s a failure. Yeah, failure on internationalisation.
Geoff 37:46
I was signing up for KrisFlyer points.
Georgie 37:49
Oh, yeah, I’m in that.
Geoff 37:51
I thought I was. But apparently not.
Georgie 37:55
Their website’s a bit of a pain. Honestly.
Geoff 37:58
It is absolute trash. Um.
Georgie 38:00
I don’t know. I feel like they put so many, like, try to put so many bells and whistles in the experience that it makes it actually worse.
Geoff 38:09
The funny thing was, so I was signing up for KrisFly... Was it KrisFlyer?
Georgie 38:14
Yeah
Geoff 38:14
No, sorry, sorry, I’ll sign you up for ANA.
Georgie 38:17
Right.
Geoff 38:18
Because we’re flying AMA. And this is my experience, I click the Join button. I’m like cool, I’ll join the ANA mileage club. Sweet, sweet. And then they first of all, they only have a two gender option.
Georgie 38:32
Nuh uh.
Geoff 38:34
And the other thing is the I got all the way through. And the grey button was grey.
Georgie 38:44
Is that because you have to agree to the Terms and Conditions?
Geoff 38:47
No, I agree. I went through everything. And I was like, right, why is this button not working? And then I went into the code. And—
Georgie 38:56
Oh my god.
Geoff 38:57
As you do as a software engineer.
Georgie 38:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what did you find?
Geoff 38:59
Go to the code, I found... (clears throat) This is an input field, not a button.
Georgie 39:06
Fuck off.
Geoff 39:07
(laughs) For those who don’t know, we use input fields for text and other—
Georgie 39:13
Input.
Geoff 39:14
...related input and buttons for well, buttons that you—
Georgie 39:17
Submitting.
Geoff 39:18
Let you sign up.
Georgie 39:19
Submitting a form.
Geoff 39:20
So this is a disabled input field. The submit the button to actually submit.
Georgie 39:26
So could you edit it and submit?
Geoff 39:29
So I removed the disabled—
Georgie 39:32
And then you clicked it and it worked?
Geoff 39:33
I clicked it, and they actually showed me the errors. They showed me the errors the for the page. They were incorrect errors to be fair because they were like “you have not selected a gender”. Well, you’ve defaulted me to male so this can’t possibly be incorrect. The real problem. I was using Safari. I switched to Chrome.
Georgie 39:54
Oh it works in another browser? Fucking hell. That’s so annoying. this story reminds we of um, we were trying to get to the catacombs —catacoom, sorry, catacombs in Paris.
Geoff 40:05
Catacooms?
Georgie 40:06
Catacombs in Paris, and I don’t know why, but it wasn’t letting us book like a certain time, even though I think it was like, available or something. I think it was, yeah, it was available, but it wouldn’t let us and I just thought I would go into the code. And put the time that I wanted I, it was like the most rudimentary form. So I was like, I’m gonna go into the code and put the time I want. Actually, I think it might have sold out. But we were booking like, not a year, like, we were probably like six months in advance. And it was like, every other time slot on that day, I think was available, except for the one that we wanted. And it was like this, there was something really fishy about it. So anyway, I go in there. And I literally, like add an option, I think, to the select menu for the time that we want. And I click the submit button, and lo and behold, it generates the fucking tickets with the time that we actually wanted. And I truly feel like I cheated the system. I don’t know if it’s still like that. Because that was like, maybe I think that was 2016 or something when we went or, yeah, years ago, it could have been fixed by now. Or like, as in, maybe the system has changed, but if you can still do that, fucking do it. (laughs)
Geoff 41:22
Another hack I talked about today, was the fact that you could edit the, the HTML, or the you can edit any webpage for yourself, like—
Georgie 41:37
Locally.
Geoff 41:38
Not for any—locally. So people I heard, I’ve never tried it. But people can actually edit the page to look like they have Qantas, platinum status or whatever. And as many points as you want, and then to get into the lounge, so you can just flash it—
Georgie 41:53
Oh my god.
Geoff 41:54
And walk in. I don’t know if they’ve improved the security they like if they check up your actual account or not. But you could try to try flash the old, edited page.
Georgie 42:04
I wonder if you can do this with like—I’m not encouraging anyone, but—like the digital driver’s license?
Geoff 42:12
No, I don’t think you can.
Georgie 42:14
Because it needs to be animated with the holographic.
Geoff 42:17
Yeah the holographic.
Georgie 42:19
Yeah.
Geoff 42:19
What would you need to fake it for?
Georgie 42:23
Maybe what if you’re like under 18 and you wanna—yeah. Like...
Geoff 42:29
Anyways, speaking of underage, this ending?
Georgie 42:34
Woah. You know what? Wait, you know, I think someone said to me, all right, just touching on this briefly. I think someone said that they changed the legal age that you can have sexual intercourse or something? They increased it.
Geoff 42:50
In Australia?
Georgie 42:50
Yeah. So I made this joke in high school. Right? That like, well, so, in Australia, the legal drinking age is 18. Unlike the US, which is sadly 21. But when I was in high school, you could learn how to drive a car at 16. And that was also the legal age of like, what, consent to for sex. And I made a joke that you could, when you turn 16 you can legally drive a car and have sex, probably not at the same time. And then I had a conversation with a friend like not too long ago, maybe a few years back, and they said that they made the age to have sex like 18. And I’m like, so you can drive a car before you’re allowed to legally have sex? So I don’t know, what is it?
Geoff 43:35
Well, one produces babies and the other one is just maybe a car crash.
Georgie 43:40
But you could die. Anyways, yeah, I mean, it’s just interesting. But I mean, I’m not about to get into like, why or like, what, like, can...
Geoff 43:49
Yeah, consent law here apparently is between 16 and 17. I don’t know. You have to be 16.5?
Georgie 43:56
Right... between 16 and 17?
Geoff 43:59
Across Australian state and territory jurisdictions for other sexual activities, the criminal legislation related to different types of sexual behaviours and attractions various across—
Georgie 44:07
Wait if you read into that, because I can see one that says, although it’s either 16 or 17, what does it say? Legislation is in the.. I think it’s the first link.
Geoff 44:19
First link?
Georgie 44:19
Like yeah, like if you go into the details.
Geoff 44:23
Oh, we’re not gonna go into the details.
Georgie 44:25
(laughs)
Geoff 44:26
I know. I know that. Japan’s legal consent age got got increased. I think? It used to be from 13. Yeah, they used to be 13.
Georgie 44:37
Oh, wow, what was that? Oh, that was quite recently.
Geoff 44:41
Yes. So yeah, used to be 13. And with that. Well...
Georgie 44:50
I hope everyone listening to this is over 16.
Geoff 44:54
Maybe? I mean, otherwise they learned something new. Maybe, hopefully, you, this is not news to anybody that there’s a legal consent age. And it is 16.
Georgie 45:07
Stay in school kids.
Geoff 45:08
What was it? How do we end this? Yeah, stay in school kids. You can follow us on toastroastpod on Twitter.
Georgie 45:14
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Geoff 45:26
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Georgie 45:28
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