Georgie recounts her first powerlifting competition! Geoff, alas—does not.
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Georgie recounts her first powerlifting competition! Geoff, alas—does not.
Geoff 0:00
Hi and welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host Geoff. And as always, I am here with my co host Georgie.
Georgie 0:17
I’m here!
Geoff 0:18
Straight up pumping.
Georgie 0:20
Yes. Just came back from my first powerlifting comp.
Geoff 0:25
Did you lifted the power in a competition?
Georgie 0:29
I have the, (sings) I got the power.
Geoff 0:32
Nice, nice. So what’s what what was involved?
Georgie 0:36
Okay, so a powerlifing comp is a competition where you try and lift the most weight basically. Like for your for your body weight. So obviously, if you lift like 100 kilos, and you weigh 100 kilos, that’s not as impressive as someone who is 100 kilos and lifts like 200 kilos.
Geoff 0:57
Right, right.
Georgie 0:58
Obviously they’re stronger.
Geoff 1:00
Yeah. What’s, what’s the ratio for ants again?
Georgie 1:04
For ants like the ants—
Geoff 1:05
For lifting power? Yeah. Forgot to share my screen. Let’s do that quickly. Yeah, so an ant can lift up to 5000 times its own weight?
Georgie 1:17
Well, they’re just natural power lifters, then, I say.
Geoff 1:20
Yeah, they’re the OG powerlifters.
Georgie 1:23
Yeah.
Geoff 1:24
That’s, that’s insane. Has anyone broken down the science behind why they can do this? That’s kind of crazy. Mechanical systems. Anyway, so how many people were there? What’s the what was the setup like?
Georgie 1:39
OK so—
Geoff 1:39
Just a random gym?
Georgie 1:40
Wait. Have you ever been? Have you ever been to one or like, do you know much about like what’s involved?
Geoff 1:45
No, I don’t lift?
Georgie 1:46
Okay.
Geoff 1:47
I wasn’t part of the “do you lify, bro?”
Georgie 1:49
(laughs)
Geoff 1:50
Yeah?
Georgie 1:51
Part of, so the, the way that competition works, and most competitions are like this, so this one was a novice one. So for people who are probably new to powerlifting, they’re not elite, they haven’t been doing this as—
Geoff 2:05
What makes you an elite powerlifter?
Georgie 2:08
I think you compete at like, at state level, and then you’re like, tested with the best of the best. And you’ve probably been doing this for like, several years at this point. So this is like my, this is my first one. This is at, like you said, it’s, it’s at a gym. So there’s because this was a novice one it was at like a community gym, or like a, like a, like a friendly gym.
Geoff 2:26
Yeah.
Georgie 2:27
And they had some sponsors and to sign up and enter it only cost—only, I’m saying, like $60. For me, that’s not a lot of money. And I actually signed up for this, I think in January. And I’d seen my coach’s, my, my PT, personal trainer’s, other client do a powerlifting competition at the end of last year. And I thought that’s interesting. It had been in the back of my mind. I was like, but I don’t want to lift weight in front of people. And all this stuff going through my head.
Gotta have a good weight lift face. Like gotta, you gotta really, can you smile while you lift?
You can, yeah, there’s no like, there’s no risk—I’ll tell you more about it in a sec. But people sort of bring their personality to it. If they want.
Geoff 3:21
Interesting.
Georgie 3:23
Like some people wear like bows in their hair.
Geoff 3:26
Oh, you know what that reminds me of? I think it was in the last Olympics. So the, like Tokyo Olympics. A lot of people cosplayed while they while they did powerlifting.
Georgie 3:36
Oh that’s amazing. Yeah.
Geoff 3:38
Like I’m pretty sure there was a one, like a One Piece powerlifter. Anyways.
Georgie 3:43
Yeah. So yeah, I signed up for this back in January, because it came up and I decided I might as well give it a go. It was kind of a combination of when I had holidays planned, like in the in the years ahead, and when my personal trainer might be away. And also just like, I might as well just give it a shot. It was kind of like okay, timing. And it was after like my New Zealand trip earlier this year. So yeah, after I came back from New Zealand in January. So actually, before I went to New Zealand, I did some testing, like strength testing, so essentially the same sort of process that you would do in the powerlifting comp. So in the powerlifting comp you’ve got you have three lifts, the squat, the benchpress, and the deadlift, and you get three attempts at each of those. And with each attempt, you ideally want to get a higher number than your previous attempt, so that you get a number on your board and add to your number on the board and add to your total. And I did that in before I went to New Zealand and then when I came back I pretty much started training for this competition, which involved like reducing my amount of reps in my gym workouts to like five reps, three reps and, and then down to like two and then one rep. So you pretty much like the the attempts of just like one rep, trying to lift as much weight as you can. And on the day, you kind of adjust those depending on how the day goes. So you might be like, oh, well, that didn’t move very well. And I don’t think that was good. So I might not try and attempt too much more on my next attempt. And then there’s obviously other lifters there as well. And then you could also bring your friends to like spectate, which I did, I didn’t think so—
Geoff 5:35
Nice.
Georgie 5:36
So many people who come to like I told my brother, because I knew he’d like support me, because he’s a bit of a gym dude, as well. I held off for like, the longest time before telling my parents.
Geoff 5:46
Why?
Georgie 5:49
Because—Nick asked me the same question. Like, why don’t you just tell your parents? Like, I think to me, it was kind of like, I didn’t want people to make a big deal out of this.
Geoff 5:56
Yeah.
Georgie 5:56
Like, I didn’t see it as too much of like, an achievement or big thing to be doing. I mean, I think a bit differently now. Now that I’ve fucking done it. But I also think that my parents just don’t, really, like, know much about lifting?
Geoff 6:15
Yeah.
Georgie 6:15
My mum was definitely of the mindset like, this is such a dudey thing to do.
Geoff 6:21
Yeah.
Georgie 6:22
Like lifting weights.
Geoff 6:23
You should be lifting sandwiches, not lifting weights.
Georgie 6:27
Lifting knives in the kitchen, cooking. I mean, my mum is like, very traditional. And she’s probably never even seen, like women lifting weights. So I guess this is like out of her, you know?
Geoff 6:39
Yeah.
Georgie 6:39
Yeah. So I didn’t want to make a big deal with my parents about it. And then I just thought maybe they didn’t care too much. And then I just by way of like, because my brother, like he still lives with my parents. And I thought, well, they’re gonna find out through him anyway. So I just casually, I mentioned that as like a very casual thing. I was like, by the way, you can come and watch. If you want. If you’re free. It’s totally up to you. No pressure at all, whatsoever. I was just like Brandon’s coming. And then I think I said something like that one of my other friends. I said, this, this person is coming as well. And it just so happened that my mum, who mostly works on the weekends, it happened to be her weekend off. And she was like, yeah, okay, I’ll come. So, yeah. And then Nick was like, Nick was like, can I tell my parents now? Because I was like, don’t tell your parents. I just didn’t want people to make a big deal out of it. I wanted to keep it under wraps, so to speak.
Geoff 7:39
Yeah.
Georgie 7:40
But yeah, I ended up like, inviting my friend Chris, who was also my boss, and then a bunch of my girlfriends as well. And it was a fun experience. So how did it go? I actually came third.
Geoff 7:55
Woah!
Georgie 7:56
In the women’s. So with the three attempts for the squat, I did, the first attempt was 75, which I’d done before, so they usually suggest for your first competition or any competition, powerlifting competition, really, your first attempt should be something pretty easy just to guarantee that you have like a score, because if you make it too hard, then you’re like, Oh, shit. Yeah.
Geoff 8:22
Gotta make it on the board.
Georgie 8:24
Yep. And then my second attempt, I did 80 kilos, which, which was pretty easy. I’d done that before in the gym, as well, but obviously, like a different environment, right. And you’re literally lifting in front of people and shit. And then my third attempt was 85. And I got that and everything, everything was swell. Things that are 85 kilos!
Geoff 8:48
Yeah, yeah, just giving people a reference. Baby elephant is 85, between 85—
Georgie 8:54
I squatted a baby elephant.
Geoff 8:56
Yeah, 100 kilos. A mountain lion. Apparently, the length of 2.4 metes is also around 85 kilos. Two water closets. (laughs)
Georgie 9:10
Wait is that like two port, like as in two full—
Geoff 9:12
Is it like a toilet—
Georgie 9:13
Toilet?
Geoff 9:15
Two full toilets? Wait, what? Flushed through a tank connected to the water closet. See, water closet’s such a weird term as well. I always found—
Georgie 9:25
I don’t mind it.
Geoff 9:25
Like—
Georgie 9:25
I like it.
Geoff 9:26
I don’t mind it, but it’s also like what is in a water closet? Is it literally just the toilet? Like... anyways.
Georgie 9:34
Wait. What do you think it is? Because like in Europe—
Geoff 9:36
I think it’s just outhouse right? Water closet, it’s just the toilet. They have nothing else in it.
Georgie 9:41
Does that have to be outside?
Geoff 9:43
No, no, it doesn’t have to be outside. A term refers to a small a closed room containing a toilet that’s situated within a larger bathroom. Oh.
Georgie 9:54
Oh.
Geoff 9:55
Interesting. Australia does this a lot. Ish.
Georgie 9:58
Yeah.
Geoff 9:58
Not really. Not really?
Georgie 9:59
The houseI grew up in was like this, the toilet was just on its own in a small tiny space with just enough for like a little rack of books in front.
Geoff 10:09
But it has to be attached to a room with something else in it right? So is today the small closed room containing a toilet, that’s situated within a larger bathroom. So you walk into the bathroom, you see the bathroom, but then there’s a door and that door—
Georgie 10:27
Yep, that—
Geoff 10:27
...goes to the toilet.
Georgie 10:28
I grew up in a house like that,
Geoff 10:30
That’s really interesting.
Georgie 10:33
Yeah.
Geoff 10:33
I know that Australia likes to like, make, like in laundry rooms? Like there’s a laundry room and then there’s a door and that goes to a bathroom. It goes to the toilet, just the toilet. So I guess that’s within a larger bathroom. So not actually a water closet because it’s connected to a laundry room.
Georgie 10:53
In the house I grew up in we had a separate laundry that was separate from the house.
Geoff 10:58
Oh?
Georgie 10:58
Like it was physically attached to the house, but you had to go outside. Take a step outside, like like half a metre. And then like go into a different door. But like if it was raining, you’d be like oh shit, I need to go, I still need to go outside to go into the laundry. And then in the laundry there also just happened to be a shower and a toilet which we never like used.
Geoff 11:24
That’s really interesting. Where I was living in the apartment building their laundry was like inside a little, I guess a shack or like what do you call them?
Georgie 11:39
Out in the back?
Geoff 11:39
Like a, like a, like a, uh... not, yeah, it’s out the back—
Georgie 11:44
Dunny?
Geoff 11:44
Our the back it’s like a little house it’s got like corrugated iron roof. Is this like a like a workshop type thing? Oh my god, the word escapes me.
Georgie 11:55
A garage.
Geoff 11:56
Like kind of like a garage?
Georgie 11:58
Because the house I grew up also had that where it’s like the garage is like the corrugated roof—
Geoff 12:02
Small house out back...
Georgie 12:05
Is it a granny flat?
Geoff 12:06
No, it’s not a house house. But it’s like a small room room out back. Anyways, people who know will know.
Georgie 12:16
Oh, is that the shed?
Geoff 12:18
It’s a shed, that’s the word. It’s just a shed. (laughs) Yeah. Okay. So like there’s a shed and then those two laundry like top loaders. And that’s it. Like you had to actually go out of the, exit the building then like at the back and go into the shed and then do your laundry. It’s just horrendous.
Georgie 12:36
Wait this is an apartment, right?
Geoff 12:37
Yeah, yeah, apartment building.
Georgie 12:38
Yeah..
Geoff 12:40
Wait, 85 kilos in pounds. Sorry. Sorry, everybody. It’s 187 pounds.
Georgie 12:48
Yeah. Oh context, I weigh 57... no, I weigh 54.
Geoff 12:53
54 kilos, which is 119 pounds. Okay—
Georgie 12:59
So when I—
Geoff 12:59
Hey, I weigh 50 ish as well, you’ve got way more muscle though.
Georgie 13:07
Yeah, so when I came in this morning, they first did the weigh in. I think it came out at like 54.2. I was actually contemplating about I should do if I should take a second shit and hope. I actually woke up at like, 4am this morning, so I was gonna wake up at like 5:30 And then I had to be there at like seven and it was like way out west. So.
Geoff 13:32
Wow.
Georgie 13:32
Had to take—
Geoff 13:33
No time to take a shit?
Georgie 13:35
Yeah, but I woke up at 4 and I was like shit, I can’t go back to sleep. I’m just like rolling around and shit. And then at like 5 I just gave up and then I made a coffee and then I had some eggs. And then I was just like, I’m just gonna get ready to go. I tried to take a nap in the car, didn’t really work, but I just closed my eyes and like Nick was driving and just decided to chill out.
Geoff 14:00
Yeah.
Georgie 14:01
I did take a shit before I left. Before I left home. But then I was like, uh, can I take another shit?
Geoff 14:09
Just do it in the car.
Georgie 14:10
Yeah.
Geoff 14:10
In a bag.
Georgie 14:11
I feel like I gained 100 grams. Like I was I think it was 54 or 54.1 in the morning before I, like when I woke up before I ate my eggs and had my coffee or whatever. But anyway.
Geoff 14:27
Keg of beer is apparently around the same weight. Four and a quarter elephant hearts. (laughs)
Georgie 14:37
Wait. One elephant heart weighs 20—
Geoff 14:40
20 kilos. Oh my god.
Georgie 14:43
Holy shit.
Geoff 14:44
20 kilos. 44 pounds.
Georgie 14:48
That’s heavy.
Geoff 14:50
That is heavy. An elephant heart. Washing machine. Typical washing machine is 85 kilos. An hourglass dolphin. And that’s seven things that weigh 85 kilos. So yeah, you could power lift a little baby elephant.
Georgie 15:09
Yeah. And then the benchpress was next. And that I started at 42.5 kilos. That’s good, went smoothly. And then. So my, my PT was there like, pretty much the whole time helping me warm up in the back. Also the at the back, where like, where people are warming up and like, lifting the weights and stuff. It can get pretty intense and chaotic. It’s like, quite quite busy. Like everyone, like you’ve got 20 people they’re trying to warm up.
Geoff 15:41
Is everyone just grunting like, “arr”, (grunt noise)?
Georgie 15:42
Not necessarily. Also the funny the funny thing is like, I think some people will have this like thought that grunting is like only something dudes do or something but I’ve definitely just been like, “uugh”, like when I like pushed through a really like heavy weight.
Geoff 15:59
Shit.
Georgie 16:00
And it does kind—oh, yeah. For a few seconds.
Geoff 16:04
(laughs)
Georgie 16:04
Wait. Why do you need to push so, isn’t that like gonna give you a haemorrhoid?
Geoff 16:07
(laughs) I don’t know man. Subject to diet.
Georgie 16:15
Yeah.
Geoff 16:15
Like it just reminds just reminds me of this movie, the movie Dodgeball. I dunno if you’ve seen it?
Georgie 16:21
Yeah. I have. It’s been a while but that’s a funny.
Geoff 16:24
Yeah, in the everyone is at the competition. And in the in the changing rooms. They’re all doing their like warm up thing and like the Japanese that just like slapping their stomachs, like with each other’s stomachs and, whilst the Germans are like, the Germans were worshipping a picture of David Hasselhoff or something like that. They’re they’re all just grunting and like, arr, trying to power up.
Georgie 16:51
Yeah, everyone has their own like way of like getting themselves hyped up. So like the one the competition I watched at the end of last year, like a lot of people had their headphones on. And they were listening. Right up until the moment they got called to lift because you can’t be listening to anything when you’re lifting. Because you got to listen to the commands. So like with the squat, like they wait for you to unrack the weight and wait for you to settle and then they say “squat”, you do the squat. And you can’t just put the weight back straightaway. You have to wait like you have to finish like the squat, finish the rep and then they’ll say “rack”. And then they’ve got like five people around you. Mostly dudes, like professional spotters, who are like squatting and making sure like if you fail the weight, like you know, they’ll they’ll help you like lift it off.
Geoff 17:40
Wow. Professional spotters, is it like you know, the ball boy at tennis, like professional ball boys. Or ball people.
Georgie 17:47
Pretty much, right. You think like, it’s not much of a job. But then you’re like, wait, they do this like professionally, and they know what they’re doing. Yeah.
Geoff 17:56
Something that’s weird, that could be professional, but not that weird is like jury duty. After we finished it, people are like, hey, can—or not even finished, before if it’s, during, the during the jury duty period, they were like, Hey, can we like can we become professional jurors? They’re like, no?
Georgie 18:17
I’ve never been called.
Geoff 18:19
Really?
Georgie 18:20
Never.
Geoff 18:20
That’s surprising.
Georgie 18:22
Bizarre.
Geoff 18:22
Either they really hate you—I have have no idea why you wouldn’t be called, or you’re an illegal. But—
Georgie 18:30
(laughs) Nah, I just got lucky maybe? One of my friends at work got called for like, I think it was like a 48. week trial—
Geoff 18:44
Woahhhh. 40 weeks? That’s ridiculous.
Georgie 18:46
Yup. And they tried, they were able to get out of it. But it was rather stressful for them because they had travel, they had some travel planned, a lot of work stuff. They were concerned about it affecting their career because they’re a bit younger than me.
Geoff 19:05
Hm... does it affect your career? I don’t know.
Georgie 19:10
I think it was more that indirectly, they might miss out on opportunities at work due to the length or and the amount of time they had to be in in the—
Geoff 19:24
I guess you could deliver a bit—
Georgie 19:25
Mentally I think mentally as well. They didn’t know what the trial was about. You don’t really find out.
Geoff 19:31
No, you don’t find out.
Georgie 19:33
Yeah.
Geoff 19:34
You could like how where I started if I’ve talked about on the podcast, but you go in and they basically so there’s two layers in this in Sydney at least. So you you get a notice to come in. You go into the like into the waiting room, and then they call your name. You could not be called. So you could go in, not be called, and then put on a new case, and then they’ll do that process again. But if you do get called you are then placed in a second room, usually the courtroom. And then they call a another set of people. So they, and you could also not be called at that set of people, I think. Like there’s more people there than like the 12 they need. So it’s like could be like 30 or something. Oh, right. Right. Right. Yeah. Because if you get called the defendant, the lawyers, one of the lawyers can basically say, I don’t want that person. They don’t have to explain why they don’t want that person. But like, an elder, there’s like a middle aged Asian guy went up, and then they were like, no guy turned around and walked away.
Georgie 20:51
Is this the one you got called to?
Geoff 20:53
Yeah. So you could also not be called at that stage. So there’s like two different stages at which you could be considered not applicable to the, to the, not be called up. And then there is also a third round, where they’ll say, if for any reason, you cannot, you cannot participate in this trial without bias, they’ll, they’ll tell you—
Georgie 21:20
Oh, yeah, that’s right.
Geoff 21:21
...exactly what it’s about.
Georgie 21:22
And you might be like, “I know that person, I can’t do...!”
Geoff 21:25
Exactly. They’ll list everybody involved, they’re like, if you know, anybody, these people, you cannot be here. So raise your hand, etc. So you can raise your hand and then get excused. So there’s like three different opportunities, not even opportunities, one opportunity to exit, but two other opportunities where you could basically not be called up. So if you’re like, for those who may or may not be stressed about not knowing what the case could be, and that, they’ll let you know, and then you can just say, Look, no. And they list the reasons. This is the funny part. They list all the reasons that you should leave. And then you just raise your hand. And they’ll excuse you. They don’t ask you which one.
Georgie 22:04
They don’t—yeah.
Geoff 22:05
So.
Georgie 22:06
Yeah, so this person, I think what ended up happening was they get, they got put on a different case. So they just turned up the day. But they planned to if they were chosen, they would maybe say something like, this might affect my mental health or something like to be on this for such a long period of time. Oh, but they didn’t want to just be excused. They wanted to, at the very least be put onto some like a shorter trial. Because—
Geoff 22:32
Yeah.
Georgie 22:33
Yeah.
Geoff 22:33
One of the things is if you have, if you have prior like engagements, and like travel and stuff like that, that like that’s one of the reasons you can just say no, and then they’ll they’ll take you off, and then they’ll put you on a different one. That may not conflict with it. But yeah, it’s largely random. So anyways, 48 weeks would be an intense like, that would be a crazy case. That would be like—
Georgie 23:01
It made us wonder like, what, what could it be?
Geoff 23:04
Yeah.
Georgie 23:05
About like, on, is it an ongoing thing? Is it just—a bunch of fraud?
Geoff 23:10
Yeah, mine was 12 weeks.
Georgie 23:12
Wow. Wait, how much time did you have to, did you actually have to spend in in the courts and stuff?
Geoff 23:18
Oh, that’s the best part. It’s six hours. It’s a school. It’s basically a school length of a day. It’s 9 to 3—
Georgie 23:26
But did you do that all in one, like over the course of—
Geoff 23:31
Yeah, every day, nine to three.
Georgie 23:34
Every day for 12 weeks?
Geoff 23:36
Yeah. Every day. Some days, they’ll excuse, they’ll excuse you ahead of time, maybe because they because the judge has to attend to other matters. So they’ll excuse you for the day ahead of time, so you don’t have to go in. And you actually have to go to work for that day. So you can pop in, I popped into work like maybe two or three times, but obviously.
Georgie 23:59
When, what, when did you do this, by the way? How long ago was this?
Geoff 24:03
When was it... It was when I first started Domain so it would have been, I don’t know when I started, so many jobs ago. But yeah, it was at least like six or seven years ago. So, oh, Feb. 2017. So I had just started Domain.
Georgie 24:26
And they were cool with you spending—
Geoff 24:28
Yeah. I was like yeah, whatever. So 12 weeks later, I came back and like halfway through my probation. Like—
Georgie 24:36
I feel like this was just before I actually met you or sometihng.
Geoff 24:39
Probably. Well, the thing is, I spent half my probation in jury duty. So I took I did half my probation and, which is six months. I did half my probation and then I went on jury duty and I basically spent the second half of my probation in jury duty.
Georgie 24:54
So how did that affect that, if it did that all, your probation?
Geoff 24:58
Well, they can’t actually kill off my probation because of it, like I can’t have any negative effects due to like the jury duty or my job. But I think the most reasonable thing for them to do would have been to extend my probation. I don’t know if they technically can do that. But that would have been the way out. But they chose not to. They’re like, yeah, that’s fine. The first two and a half months, like, you’re pretty solid. Or three months.
Georgie 25:27
Nice.
Geoff 25:28
Yeah.
Georgie 25:29
Holy shit.
Geoff 25:31
It was it was financial fraud. It was kind of embezzlement kind of not. But yeah, if you were there for 40, 48 weeks, this is some serious shit. Like, the only reason why this one took 12 Weeks was because of how many witnesses how many people were involved in this?
Georgie 25:54
Yeah.
Geoff 25:55
Like he had defrauded, I don’t know, 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5 different couples, five different people. And then they had to bring in material witnesses, people who studied the books, like studied the actual, like forensics of financial forensics of it all. And anyone that could find that was involved on the other end. So allegedly, he was funnelling money from his clients to this pension, pension money to pension type of money by the way, and super, right, so funnelling their life savings from the final end of the final length of their life into what seemed like a Ponzi scheme.
Georgie 26:44
Oh, my, that’s actually very bad.
Geoff 26:46
Yeah. Yeah. So so he was basically selling it as a guaranteed 10% return investment. Some of them he told, and some of them, he, allegedly, some of them, allegedly, he told and, like, told them about the investment. And, and allegedly, some of it was not, what was technically stolen, so he had a check with their money to be deposited. And that money did not go to the deposits account, the property account, so—
Georgie 27:23
What was the outcome of—
Geoff 27:25
Oh, guilty. Yeah. Yeah, so. So that took 12 weeks, because of the number of people involved. And they had found, like the girlfriend of the of the guy who seemed to be like, tran, like taking the money out of the accounts. And then like, it was at the at a casino. So the assumption here is that the money was being taken out and then gambled. They they tried to sell that really hard to make sure like a well the the prosecutor was like, “they took the money and they gambled it away” because why else would they take the money out at a casino but obviously that’s a trick.
Georgie 28:08
Yeah.
Geoff 28:08
Let’s go back to that. So the, so by the way, I can tell you all of this but technically and legally I can’t tell you what went into the verdict. I can tell you the verdict. I can tell you what the case is about. But I can’t tell you what we discussed in the room to come up to the come up with the verdict.
Georgie 28:31
So like legally, you can’t, otherwise—
Geoff 28:34
Yeah. I don’t know what the otherwise is.
Georgie 28:38
Right. So you legally are, what is the word forbidden, or—
Geoff 28:44
Legally, restricted? From discussing how—
Georgie 28:49
Whatever happened in there, you’re, you can’t discuss outside it just stays in that—
Geoff 28:53
Yeah. Yeah.
Georgie 28:54
So you can’t even talk to like off pod? You can’t even tell anybody?
Geoff 28:58
Yeah. You also not, not allowed how to identify anybody that you were a juror with.
Georgie 29:04
Yeah, that’s fair enough I assumed.
Geoff 29:06
Yeah. So it’s quite interesting, like, the, some of the jurors like we we actually became kind of friends so we went out and had meals afterward.
Georgie 29:18
Yeah, it’s 12 weeks man.
Geoff 29:19
Have lunch.
Georgie 29:21
Wait. Do you happen to keep in touch with any of the—
Geoff 29:24
I can not, I can neither confirm nor deny that statement.
Georgie 29:26
Oh, wait yeah. Because wait, then you have to identify, and you can’t do that. Right?
Geoff 29:29
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I’m a very good juror.
Georgie 29:32
You, just get you just get you like, to, some weird name drop, where’d you meet this person? Oh right, the...
Geoff 29:43
The, the other thing was that we weren’t allowed to look at the media, which is obvious.
Georgie 29:49
Yeah. Because but then you get bias, right?
Geoff 29:51
Yeah.
Georgie 29:51
Potentially.
Geoff 29:52
It turns out that at the end afterwards, we like I checked the guy out and to see what really happened because you can convict them, but you don’t know really the outcome of the of the conviction. But it turns out he was involved in a second case, which was way high, way higher stakes.
Georgie 30:17
So totally separate.
Geoff 30:19
So it’s kind of related.
Georgie 30:21
But it would have involved different—
Geoff 30:22
Totally separate.
Georgie 30:23
Different jury.
Geoff 30:24
Different, different like, yeah, he was in a different completely different court case. Different jury and everything. What was the amount? I can’t remember the amount that that we were we were looking at was like $250,000, or something like that. For this case, but like the other case was like upwards one point, 1.1 something million dollars. Was his second case. So.
Georgie 30:47
Wow.
Geoff 30:47
He was, he was in some deep shit. He was he’s bankrupt. So convicting him doesn’t get anybody’s money back. Ish. That’s like a really, I think that’s an issue in the in the system here in Australia is that you can almost get away with most things if you just declare bankruptcy.
Georgie 31:07
Yeah, wait, hang on. Why is that specifically Australia, though?
Geoff 31:11
I don’t know. There’s different laws.
Georgie 31:12
You mean it’s not like that in other—
Geoff 31:15
In other countries, I don’t know.
Georgie 31:17
Got to do like, what’s it called, community service to like...
Geoff 31:21
Haha, it’s the only way, yeah. Like, I read something somewhere. It was sort of like, they shouldn’t be convicted and put into jail if they’re, if if they’re bankrupt, and can’t send people money back. They should make them work and return the money eventually. So yeah, anyways, so that was, that’s jury duty. And I completely enjoyed it. I don’t know why people don’t want to do it.
Georgie 31:48
You enjoyed—
Geoff 31:48
I know why people don’t want to do it. But yeah, it’s good.
Georgie 31:52
Yeah, I’ll let you know if I ever—
Geoff 31:55
Yeah, you should go.
Georgie 31:57
But then I can’t, but then I can’t like tell you any details.
Geoff 31:59
No. But—
Georgie 32:00
Yeah.
Geoff 32:01
I think we need more smart, like all the smart people can get out of jury duty, but we need smart people in jury duty.
Georgie 32:07
You need them to—yeah.
Geoff 32:09
Because honestly, the people in my jury were like middle age housewives like they and—
Georgie 32:16
Heh, not stereotyping, but also.
Geoff 32:20
Yeah, well, the thing is, like they were they were very much the stereotype, like they, whenever they—
Georgie 32:26
Well, they get paid. Right. So they might actually find that better to do than their day job.
Geoff 32:32
Yeah.
Georgie 32:33
They might be unemployed even.
Geoff 32:35
Yeah, definitely, definitely housewives, most of them. So like, when you get all of those same types of people in a jury, they can, you can get some really like bias, like convictions with, you know, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. It’s a very like, common thing, because this guy has 13 like indictments or whatever against him. It means he did it. That’s not, that’s not the case.
Georgie 33:00
Uh huh.
Geoff 33:01
But it’s—
Georgie 33:01
You mean they’re not like critical thinkers?
Geoff 33:04
Yeah.
Georgie 33:05
They just sort of go, oh yeah. He’s definitely guilty, because that’s the info we have or whatever.
Geoff 33:09
Yeah, exactly. So like, it’s very easy for the stereotype to fall into something like that. So I think we need more smart people. I mean, I think that’s all I can say, without actually telling you about how I how we came up with the conviction. But yeah, it’s easy to come up, come up against that, like idea from a very traditional mindset, I guess. So it’s quite amusing.
Georgie 33:35
Oh yeah. Let me let me finish rounding out this comp.
Geoff 33:37
Yeah, yeah, the comp.
Georgie 33:38
Yeah, so it was doing but I can’t even remember how we got on this. Hilarious. We’ll figure it, we’ll find out later. I’ll find out. When I look at the transcript. Be like “wow, big tangent”. That’s nothing new for us. So with the bench press, I did 42.5. I believe this is where what I was talking about earlier. And that was fine. And I did 47.5 kilos. Sorry, I’m not like real time translating to pounds. Although, they’re, they have a screen right? And it’s got the person’s name like, yeah, mine said Georgie Cooke. And then it said whatever weight I was attempting—
Geoff 34:11
103 pounds.
Georgie 34:12
Yeah it would have, yeah, it would have the translation in.
Geoff 34:16
Oh. That’s nice.
Georgie 34:17
In pounds. So 47.5 was like, fine. And then I talked to my PT like at the back and he was like, that looked easy. I was like, yeah, and then he went and looked at the video that Nick recorded because Nick was like, watching and recording it.
Geoff 34:30
Yeah.
Georgie 34:30
And Nick was like, he told me this later, Nick said, I don’t think that was that easy. To me it felt okay. Right. But then my PT was like, Oh man, I should have just made you do 50 instead. Like I’ve, I’ve never done, been able to benchpress 50. Also the thing with benchpress is like so this is how the commands work, right. You’ve got to unrack the weight—
Geoff 34:50
Unracking means to dislodge the weight from the—
Georgie 34:55
The rack.
Geoff 34:57
The support?
Georgie 34:59
Yeah, the support rack. So some people choose to have someone like help them lift it off.
Geoff 35:05
Oh.
Georgie 35:05
I decided not to I tried it when I when I was training with, with my PT, but it felt weird. And I was already used to just doing it myself. So I just, I just did it myself. And so they go, once you’ve settled, then they say, I think they say “start” or “bench”, and then you pull the weight to your chest. And you actually have to pause there. In, competition in powerlifting competition, you have to pause, but it’s quite, it’s quite quick, it’s like half a second and then they say “press”, and you press the weight up. And then once you’ve finished the rep, then they say rack and then you put it back, you can’t just press it and put it to the rack immediately.
Geoff 35:40
Oh yeah.
Georgie 35:40
Because then you’re like using momentum to put it to put it back. And so that’s where like I kind of, I feel like it’s very technical as a lift, because there’s like strength required at the bottom, like when you’re gonna press. So I actually failed the 50 kilos, like I was able to pull it down. But then I couldn’t like I couldn’t push it up. And then so that’s what the spotters—oh so we were talking about the spotters, professional spotters.
Geoff 36:02
(laughs)
Georgie 36:04
The spotters lifted it up when I realised I was just like struggling and couldn’t get it up. So yeah, like I feel like if I didn’t have to pause, easy. Like momentum, just bring it down and push it back up. And so you’ll see dudes at the gym doing what they call, yeah, this is like a touch and go bench press. Pull it to your chest, push it up, pull it up, do like, just keep getting reps.
Geoff 36:23
Yeah.
Georgie 36:23
But the difficult part is like being strong at the, I guess the bottom of the press. And then this is interesting, because I was talking to Chris about this. He was like what like, he said, I assume it, that’s all like pecs? I’m like, no, you actually have to like stabilise your legs and be have your feet rooted into the ground as you’re lying on the bench. So that you can use your leg drive to push—
Geoff 36:47
Yeah. Interesting.
Georgie 36:48
It’s very interesting because I don’t have I don’t think I have that leg drive like down pat. I’m still like practicing it. Because like, imagine if you try to do this with the legs just dangling.
Geoff 36:59
Yeah.
Georgie 37:00
Like it could be quite difficult. So the legs help you stabilise, but he also pushed your feet through the floor. Like, literally, I don’t even know how to—
Geoff 37:08
To bend your back. Yeah—
Georgie 37:09
No, you don’t bend your back. But it’s like an energy transfer kind of thing.
Geoff 37:13
Interesting.
Georgie 37:14
Like, your whole body is I guess anchored to the ground, like one part through your feet. The other part with your back on the on the bench and then the bench is on the ground. And you’re using your legs through feet and through the ground to help you push the weight. I know this sounds so fucking weird. But yeah, and the there are three judges, there’s one in the middle in front of you. And they’re doing like the commands and the hand, like they’re using hand gestures as well. So you hear them and you see them like move their hand up and down. And then there’s two people on the side because you can see you see the lift a bit differently from the side. And then they all turn, like, choose like yeah, “good” or like “fail”. And you just have to get two out of three.
Geoff 37:59
OK.
Georgie 38:00
For the lift to be considered good. So that one was all read for me because I just, I couldn’t I couldn’t hit it. With with the deadlift, it was quite interesting, actually. So the first deadlift I did was 90 kilos.
Geoff 38:16
Geez.
Georgie 38:16
That was easy. So the second one did 100 kilos, which I’ve done before in the gym, with a little bit of struggle, this time, it actually felt easy. And my PT said, Let’s go for 105. So I have actually lifted 105 before in the gym, but I fucking lost it and my hand, it was slipping out of my hand and I couldn’t like I couldn’t like finish the rep. But this time, I did it. But I got one red light from—
Geoff 38:42
Oh.
Georgie 38:42
From the judge in front, but the other two were like, white technically, I don’t know why it’s not green, but it’s fine. And so the people side, they said it was good, but the judge in front was like no, and this is what I think happened, right, so probably a learning for like next time. As I was pulling the weight up off the ground. And like near the top, one of my nails kind of got caught in my, in my leggings.
Geoff 39:09
Ohh. Haha.
Georgie 39:09
Because it’s really long. And I think it kind of made it look like I didn’t fully like lock out and complete the rep. And so that that light was red, but it didn’t matter because then I got it anyway.
Geoff 39:23
Yeah, the whole like technical part where you say you have to like you unrack it then you pull it down, you pause and then you push up and then you rack it.
Georgie 39:38
That yeah, yeah, so you have should practice that stuff with your like, your coach or your trainer.
Geoff 39:42
If you do if you do physiotherapy, I think but if I can remember correctly, like they get you to do weights but then they also get you to do weights slowly and you also have to do weights where you stop at specific at specific parts of like, flexing and stuff like that, and it just reminds me of that where, yeah, it’s, it’s a whole different kind of like process and a whole bunch of different muscles to go from like one look, what, like one position to another position, stop. And then and then and then change to a different a different position or push a different set of muscles just to—yeah, pausing, is pausing is harder than doing just like just like using you’re just lifting the weight and then like and crunching your muscle or something like that.
Georgie 40:35
Yeah, so there’s other exercises that you can do in the gym, which the purpose of that is to, like, have a point of like time, like time, it’s like a time under tension, which stresses the muscle out more and the more you do this, obviously, blah, blah, blah, your muscle gets bigger and stronger, or whatever. Not bigger, not necessarily bigger, but it gets stronger because it’s under that stress. And then like yeah, focusing on like, either the—I never remember which way’s which but it depends on the muscle or the limb or whatever. But they eccentric and the concentric part of the exercise.
Geoff 41:06
Oh. Okay, yeah.
Georgie 41:06
So like you could slow like if you’re doing a bicep curl and lifting a weight up like, you know, arm extended, to arm like, bent. Like you could like, move that weight slowly as it comes in.
Geoff 41:17
Yeah.
Georgie 41:18
And then you’re focusing on that part, which—is that the concentric or the accentric? I won’t bother trying to figure out, what, well, you could slow it down on the way down. And then you feel the burn.
Geoff 41:28
Yeah.
Georgie 41:29
And all that stuff.
Geoff 41:30
You know what’s not slow? The way we end this episode.
Georgie 41:33
Yeah.
Geoff 41:34
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Georgie 41:40
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Geoff 41:42
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Georgie 41:44
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Geoff 41:53
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Georgie 41:55
Woo.
Geoff 41:56
And there are new episodes every Monday. So see you next week.
Georgie 42:01
See you next week.
Geoff 42:02
Bye.