From the TV show binge to the burger binge, we chat about some of our favourite (questionably appropriate) childhood cartoons we both watched and were banned from watching.
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From the TV show binge to the burger binge, we chat about some of our favourite (questionably appropriate) childhood cartoons we both watched and were banned from watching.
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Toast & Roast:
Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:07
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host, Georgie and I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:17
Hello. We’re back. We didn’t leave. But I always feel like we say we’re back, you know, in case—
Georgie 0:25
Somewhere someone is not thinking that we’re back because they’re probably binge listening to all our episodes.
Geoff 0:32
Yeah.
Georgie 0:33
And been there the whole time.
Geoff 0:34
It’s kind of like when a year watching, you’re catching up on the TV show. And they’re, they like, give you that recap. But you didn’t watch the episode like, just then. So screw this recap man.
Georgie 0:48
Oh, I think I saw a comedian make fun of that and say, was it a comedian? Or was it? No, could have been someone I was talking to? But they said, you have like a 30 minute show, or that’s the time slot they give you on television. Take away some of the ad breaks. Maybe it’s 24 minutes.
Geoff 1:06
Ads? What is this?
Georgie 1:07
What? Ads?
Geoff 1:08
What is this, early 2000s.
Georgie 1:09
It’s just an example. But that recap, that they recap the previous episode, it takes like a large percentage of the actual episode. And then at the end there like next, like next episode, this is going to happen, and at the beginning of the next episode, they pretty much gives you what they gave you the end of the previous episode saying, this is going to happen, Geof’s going to eat a banana, etcetera.
Geoff 1:34
Me eat a banana? That is scandalous.
Georgie 1:37
And then they’ll start their show with something completely unrelated. Like somebody else eating a banana. And they’re like, “after the break, will Geoff eat a banana?” And then—
Geoff 1:46
Yeah. (laughs)
Georgie 1:47
You know, and then basically, there’s all this drama build up to the end of the episode where you’re about to eat the banana and you’ve just, you’ve hyped up the episode with Geoff gonna eat a banana. And then the end of the episode you haven’t even—
Geoff 2:01
It sounds like one of our podcast episodes where we start with the question, and we just never answer it.
Georgie 2:09
Never answer. Oh shit. Called out.
Geoff 2:10
Called out.
Georgie 2:11
Wait. Has there been anything recently that we haven’t—
Geoff 2:14
Resolved? I have no idea. Someone will have to tell us whether or not we resolved something that we haven’t done. It just reminds me of Dragonball Z, like, they go like, “next time on Dragonball Z” and then they tell you what’s next time. But yeah, they’ll, you only find out next time like kind of in the middle of the next episode. And then like they’ll started the next episode, “The last time on Dragonball Z” and you’re just like, yeah, five, five, ten minutes of a 24 minute episode, gone. Like half the episode gone.
Georgie 2:47
Yeah, so pretty much every reality TV show, I think. I don’t watch it. But like, sometimes I’m you know, waiting in the doctor’s room or some shit, or at someone’s house and they’ve got like that on television. And it’s like you said it’s such a waste of like 30% of the episode was like a recap.
Geoff 3:05
Yeah.
Georgie 3:05
So hang on, in Dragonball Z. Is it true that—I can’t remember because I did kind of used to watch a bit of it as a kid. But don’t they take like five episodes to like evolve or like Super Saiyan? or some shit?
Geoff 3:17
Yeah, I mean, they take five episodes to do anything really. Like he wants to go take a shit. He takes five minutes to get to the toilet. Not even not even to get in the toilet. But I remember the I mean, the I guess the most memed slash largest reference is the Spirit Bomb. I’ll roll back a little bit. For those who don’t know what Dragonball Z is (laughs), it’s a it’s an animation from Japan. Commonly known as an anime. And it got dubbed for in English. I think it was probably one of the most popular English dubs. I can’t remember if it’s the first, but it’s a very old anime. And it showed up on our morning cartoons here in Australia. So if you woke up early enough, and you’re you turned on the TV, this is what you got. This animation. It is a, it’s about I don’t know if anyone really knows about Son Goku, which is a mythical, is a Chinese mythical character. Anyways, he’s a he’s a god. He’s a semi god of sorts. Anyways, so this guy, he is a kid. And he has different power levels, stages and the anime is literally about how strong this guy can get. A super bad guy is the bad guy. He is strong. The bad guy’s super strong and the Goku main character is only strong. And then he goes oh no, I got beaten down by the super strong guy. So he goes off, trains for a bit, comes back beats up said bad guy and rinse and repeat for the rest of time.
Georgie 5:04
(laughs)
Geoff 5:04
So one of the abilities that he ends up learning is to draw the energy from the earth all living beings and he becomes a soul... is a... spirit bomb, spirit bomb. To defeat the again the super strong person, super strong enemy alien. So he stands there. He literally stands there flying in the air. He’s got superpowers, by the way, standing in the air, holding his arms up, waiting for the energy to collect. And that’s like a whole, like half the season. Like 12 episodes, of just him standing there with a hands up. Yelling by the way, there’s a lot of yelling, because when he powers up he really needs to yell like he’s taking the biggest dump.
Georgie 5:46
(laughs)
Geoff 5:46
So yeah, that’s probably the biggest reference from there is like, man. As long as the Dragonball Z Spirit Bomb takes. Like, yeah, half a season. How many? How many episodes does DBZ, 291 episodes, did the Spirit Bomb...
Georgie 6:08
Okay, so overall, there’s 291 episodes.
Geoff 6:11
Yeah, and 13 of those who had taken up with a Spirit Bomb.
Georgie 6:14
Wait what’s the percentage of like, 13, 291... I can’t do maths.
Geoff 6:21
No, percentage maths is hard.
Georgie 6:24
Wait is it 4.4%? I’m very confused right now.
Geoff 6:28
4.4%. Why not? 13...
Georgie 6:30
No hold up, no it’s 4, yeah, no, it’s like about five, four and a half percent. Sorry.
Geoff 6:33
Yeah, yeah, four, four and a half percent of the entire show is dedicated to this one thing.
Georgie 6:41
How many years did the series like?
Geoff 6:45
Ah.
Georgie 6:45
Man.
Geoff 6:46
Yeah, it’s like 116 hours? How many years? How long does it take to watch all the Dragonball Z?
Georgie 6:54
Not so much how long does it take. But you know, when did the first episode get released versus the finale of the whole thing?
Geoff 7:00
Oh. So let’s have a look, premiered in Japan, if we’re looking at non dubbed—1989. And then it ended in 1996. So that’s—
Georgie 7:14
Yeah okay.
Geoff 7:14
Seven years. Seven years?
Georgie 7:18
Yeah.
Geoff 7:19
Pretty, pretty good. Right? Pretty good. Run. If you wanted to watch all of Dragonball Z, how long will it take? 22 minutes on average? That’s wrong. We just told them, just told this random person that 10 of those minutes are crap. So we put together 6402 minutes if we divide that to hours, approximately 106 hours is pretty close to four and a half days. So yeah, okay. 24 hours a day, seven days a week and assume a regular nine to five jobs. You gotta, see these people don’t watch anime during work. That’s the problem.
Georgie 7:58
You don’t need to calculate, like just say, four and a half straight days. And then each individual figure out how they’re gonna if they wanted to binge watch this, how they’re gonna do that. Speaking of binge watching, I do remember maybe one of like, one of the shows I probably binge watched the most was the Big Bang Theory.
Geoff 8:18
Oh, yeah. We’re actually watching that now.
Georgie 8:20
Ah, I got into it.
Geoff 8:21
Again.
Georgie 8:21
...I wouldn’t say like super late, but I had some catching up to do. And I remember I was just so easy to just keep watching. Because the episodes are short. And like I know, I’ve talked about it on the podcast before about how I don’t really like movies, short attention span, can’t really stand it, but I find most TV shows that are like 20 min, 22 minutes or whatever, to be quite approachable, because I guess like each chunk of 22 minutes is like covers a small piece of ground and I find that more digestible, the flow it kinda, you can take a break. It’s very different to sitting for like watching a two hour long story or you know, in the case of Lord of the Rings, like nine. (laughs)
Geoff 9:09
Yeah.
Georgie 9:10
Slight exaggeration.
Geoff 9:11
It’s nine. Isn’t it nine? It’s like, if you do the director’s cut for Lord of the Rings.
Georgie 9:18
I should ask Nick. He’s a really big fan. And I think he watched The Hobbit incl—actually you know what they also have I don’t know if the Lord of the Rings does but The Hobbit has appendices, which is basically like five, whatever, five six hours, I don’t know how many hours of extra content which I feel only a true fan would care to watch that kind of stuff.
Geoff 9:40
Yeah, if you do, Lord of the Rings theatrical trilogy lasts nine hours.
Georgie 9:48
Good guess Georgie.
Geoff 9:50
Yeah. Director’s cut lasts 11 hours. Eleven and a half hours.
Georgie 9:54
That’s not too much. Like yeah, difference.
Geoff 9:59
I mean, I won’t get into Rings of Power, because I’ve only watched like, an episode of it.
Georgie 10:06
But do you rate it though?
Geoff 10:08
After a single, after two episodes, I feel like it’s really messy. And everyone says that it gets better at episode seven. And I’m like, do I really want to waste away six hours of my life just to get to a good state of the show?
Georgie 10:22
Or you could just watch just episode 7. Is that allowed?
Geoff 10:25
I think you’d miss some things. I guess I’d watched the first couple episodes. So I know who people are. So if like, I watch episode seven, maybe. But that goes against my principles. I can’t I can’t jump—
Georgie 10:37
You can’t jump.
Geoff 10:40
I can’t do jumps.
Georgie 10:40
I guess this is interesting, because I think of shows like The Big Bang Theory like going back to that, and stuff that’s like, usually sitcoms is they kind of do pretty well as standalone episodes. And you may not have to necessarily know all of the characters or like, watch episode one. Before just like picking out a ran... Like, you could probably pick out a random episode from a bag and like you’d still enjoy it. And there’s sometimes references to other episodes, there’s still some sense of continuity, but not it’s not so much like a big story sort of like.
Geoff 11:15
Yeah.
Georgie 11:15
Yeah.
Geoff 11:15
It’s not jarring to be like, “Oh, Sheldon and Amy got together or something”—sorry, spoilers.
Georgie 11:24
Like, who’s Sheldon?
Geoff 11:25
I do tend to do the jumping on the off type watch a few times. So Big Bang Theory, I’ve probably watched maybe three times. How I Met Your Mother I’ve watched numerous times, possibly six times, Stargate SG one I’ve maybe watched three times, Scrubs, like five or six times as well.
Georgie 11:49
Wow, you re watch shows a lot. I feel like I have—
Geoff 11:53
Back in the day. Yeah, back in the day. I used to, like, go on rotation. Just once I finished a whole really long one. I’m like, okay, well, I guess I’ll just play the next one. And I’d be maybe doing other stuff.
Georgie 12:08
Oh you watch it in the background type thing.
Geoff 12:11
Yeah. So it gets to that point. But yeah, I agree. Big Bang Theory and those other sitcom ones, you can kind of just jump in.
Georgie 12:18
Is Big Bang Theory finished?
Geoff 12:20
Yes. Yes it is.
Georgie 12:21
Okay, because I think I’ve early actually seen six, six seasons.
Geoff 12:26
Six seasons and movie...! That’s a reference from Community.
Georgie 12:32
I haven’t seen that.
Geoff 12:33
Actually. I think you’d enjoy Community.
Georgie 12:35
Are you sure? Don’t give me recommendations, you know what... You know, happens when people give me recommendations. One, I will never watch it, or two, they’re wrong. So you can be prepared to be wrong, Geoff.
Geoff 12:47
Oh my god. Well, I’ve watched all most of the bigger sitcoms, even Friends. That’s been more recent, though.
Georgie 12:54
I think people have chided me for not watching friends.
Geoff 12:58
I mean, it’s alright.
Georgie 13:00
I’ve never gotten into it.
Geoff 13:03
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I get that because I didn’t watch it before. Until I met my partner, I watched all of Friends and I’m like okay, they have some really good moments, some funny ones. But more or less, it feels familiar, I guess because I’ve watched all the other ones like Scrubs, How I Met Your Mother, all the ones that revolve around a friend group have all taken like, like taken ideas from Friends? Maybe Friends took ideas from other ones? I don’t know. I haven’t watched all TV shows from the end of time. But But yeah, you can kind of you can kind of see the, like, I’m sure there’s tons of Big Bang Theory episodes, that are just like Friends, they all gather at the same place. And they all kind of play some kind of variation of high jinks on each other. And yeah, although Big Bang Theory has no career issues. Friends, does a lot of career issues.
Georgie 14:03
Do you, are you saying it’s not quite realistic, maybe.
Geoff 14:06
I mean, actually, it might be really realistic, because when they’re doc, they’re actually doctorates, they’re PhDs and they’re at a specific place and they’re aiming for tenure, then that’s realistic. You don’t move if you’re trying to go for tenure, like you. (laughs)
Georgie 14:24
Yes. Yeah.
Geoff 14:27
So it’s kind of realistic that they don’t have too many too many career dramas and it’s not the focus of the show, right? The focus of the show is how geeky they can be.
Georgie 14:37
Yeah.
Geoff 14:38
Whereas like the other friends shows are sort of like, they get down in the dumps because they got fired, or they have to find a new job or go through some life hardships, whereas Big Bang Theory is not really a focus of life hardships.
Georgie 14:52
Yeah, Friends seems to be—and I, even though I haven’t watched it, it seems to be more about the friends and the relationships like, that’s the focus.
Geoff 15:00
Yeah.
Georgie 15:01
Actually speaking of this sort of like characters, and you know what, what happens in their lives and stuff, I had this conversation with someone at work just the other day when I was in the office about the Simpsons. So the Simpsons is still going, I think they must have maybe 30 plus seasons, can’t remember, I just remember maybe 10 years ago being surprised that they had, or actually not really surprised, but realising they had 20 seasons, which is a lot. And we realised that they don’t age in The Simpsons, right, we were saying, so this guy I was talking to said, yeah, I think I was the same age as Bart when I started watching The Simpsons.
Geoff 15:42
Oh my god, 34 seasons.
Georgie 15:42
I was eight years old. Yeah, 34 is a lot. So I think Bart is meant to be seven or eight. And this guy at work, I think, is maybe a bit older than me. So probably 30s. And you put that into perspective, and then you realise that in The Simpsons, they just they don’t age and you’re like, huh? I guess it’s like they have the flashbacks in some of the episodes of like, you know, Maggie growing up or Lisa, Bart, growing up. And then they have, wait I guess flash, I guess flashforward. Sorry. Flashfoward.
Geoff 16:15
Yeah, oh, yeah, they do do that.
Georgie 16:17
Yeah, occasionally.
Geoff 16:18
Heh, “do do”.
Georgie 16:18
(laughs) And they have flashbacks of like, their past. But fundamentally, I guess the show is based on them being like this dysfunctional family or as they say, like as a unit.
Geoff 16:31
Yeah.
Georgie 16:32
And it always remains, the Simpsons always remains current, like politically current, always addressing like issues of like the now.
Geoff 16:42
Like South Park.
Georgie 16:43
Yeah, but the character’s don’t age and I just didn’t realise that until recently, and that’s probably why it goes on and on.
Geoff 16:50
Yeah. Does that mean that the characters don’t, like, grow as characters?
Georgie 16:58
Maybe—
Geoff 16:59
Like, I didn’t watch Simpsons, I was banned from Simpsons.
Georgie 17:03
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 17:04
We moved here.
Georgie 17:04
I wasn’t allowed to watch it. Because it was supposedly a bad influence.
Geoff 17:09
But yeah, except then, because my parents didn’t actually know about the other, the other ones like Futurama.
Georgie 17:16
Futurama is the shit and I love Futurama.
Geoff 17:19
And Family Guy.
Georgie 17:21
I didn’t so much like Family Guy. But yeah.
Geoff 17:23
Yeah, I think Family Guy kind of took Simpsons’ and South Park’s kind of crude ish humour and kind of combine them together. Now that I think about it. Because they have a whole song about AIDS. And that’s what what I connect with South Park is that they just love making fun of AIDS. It’s really good.
Georgie 17:42
It’s not good. But yeah, I found—yeah, that humour wasn’t really my, like Futurama I love—
Geoff 17:50
Yeah, Futurama was great.
Georgie 17:51
It’s, I don’t know, there’s something about it that sort of mixes the futuristic things like relationship with people, humour, and like, even just like those, like, romantic elements as well, that make it just kind of endearing and funny.
Geoff 18:08
Yeah, the so Simpsons started in 1989, as well as Dragonball Z. They started the same year as the year, the year of cartoons that we watched, like two years before, two or three years before we were born. That makes sense, actually. Yeah. But yeah, I wasn’t allowed to watch Simpsons, but I did watch Futurama and Family Guy, and I don’t think they were any better influence than Simpsons. I never watched South Park either.
Georgie 18:40
Yeah, I didn’t either.
Geoff 18:42
Except one. That one clip everybody references, which is like, the WoW guy?
Georgie 18:49
I’ll probably know when I see it.
Geoff 18:52
Yeah.
Georgie 18:52
If it’s like a meme.
Geoff 18:54
It’s 100% of meme. It’s this guy who sits at his desk and he’s playing computer.
Georgie 19:00
Oh.
Geoff 19:02
And he’s playing he’s playing World of Warcraft. And so is Kenny I think, and it’s just sort of like they they’re playing for so long. That the the mum has to come down and like change out their their—
Georgie 19:20
Clothes?
Geoff 19:21
Poop bowls. And like feed them and stuff. Is this guy cosplaying? At an expo just cosplaying the WoW guy.
Georgie 19:34
Wait so are they play, are the characters playing against each other in WoW or something?
Geoff 19:37
Yeah, so World of Warcraft is like is a multi, MMORPG massive multiplayer online role playing game. Anyways, you get a character you do tasks and kill things to level up and gain more experience and then the more experience you have, the more abilities you have. And you can participate in um, like group work. (laughs) Group work.
Georgie 20:05
Group tasks? (laughs)
Geoff 20:07
Group tasks, to defeat a bigger monster, which needs more than just one person to defeat so you can group up with people and and play together essentially, the idea is that you do like collectively play and you can play against each other, you can kill each other in certain circumstances as well. But, yeah, it’s a genre of gaming that has seen not so great results lately, Genshin Impact. And usually they’ll have like some kind of gambling aspect to them, you know, the ga, the gacha, got to put some money in it. Got to roll the dice. And then if you didn’t, you might get a good character might get some something powerful, but you also might not.
Georgie 20:52
And so that’s how they get money.
Geoff 20:54
Nowadays, yeah, that’s how they like farm money from the people. As with all the other games, mobile games are probably the the number one reason why it’s leaked into other games. That’s because it’s such a good way of just—
Georgie 21:08
Easy.
Geoff 21:09
Taking money from people. But I did read something about how like microtransactions have been really interesting as a payment model. Because it’s like, it actually promotes the idea that, you know, people who are maybe in low socio economic circumstances, or group, they have like, a set amount of money that they probably have at any given time. Fifteen, twenty dollars. But then you give them this app, this game mobile game, let’s say, hey, $2, $2 is all it takes to enjoy this game more. So they’re like, hey, cool, I’ve got fifteen, twenty dollars, I can give $2 to this thing.
Georgie 22:01
But then over a longer period of time, it’s almost like you’re using that, as a company, you could be using that to prey on them.
Geoff 22:09
Yeah, exactly. In, in which case, then, like, you think that okay, what if the game just asks for $25? And then nothing else? Right?
Georgie 22:21
Like a one off?
Geoff 22:22
A one off, right.
Georgie 22:23
Up front? Yeah. People from those backgrounds might not be able to afford it so they’ll never—
Geoff 22:28
Precisely. They’ll never buy it. So you actually cut yourself out of a demographic. But it’s still very predatory feeling.
Georgie 22:37
This is such a, yeah, dark, dark pattern.
Geoff 22:41
Dark. Remember when we used to call dark? Used to talk about dark UX patterns as, I don’t know.
Georgie 22:48
That’s what we called—do they call, do we call them something else? I can’t remember.
Geoff 22:50
No, we still call them that. But it was like the dark UX pattern that I could remember was like, I don’t know, hiding, hiding the unsubscribe button, you know, drop down or something, right.
Georgie 23:04
Yeah.
Geoff 23:05
That’s dark. But now we talk about dark UX patterns as high as like subscription like micro transaction models and dark UX, it’s gotten so much more serious.
Georgie 23:14
Yeah, it’s more advanced because I, the ones that I really disliked were coming up, being met with some kind of modal dialog.
Geoff 23:25
Oh, god.
Georgie 23:26
That asked you hey, sign up to the mailing list. And it was always the text to say no was was it called like a shaming... You’re trying to shame the, what‘s the word for it.
Geoff 23:40
Oh man. I can’t remember the dark patterns.
Georgie 23:42
There was a website or maybe a Tumblr blog or something. I forgotten now.
Geoff 23:50
Yeah, “designed to mislead or trick users to make them do something they don’t want to do”.
Georgie 23:57
It was something to do with the word shame where it would say “no, I don’t want a free iPad” or whatever. And you just feel nasty.
Geoff 24:06
You just neg at them.
Georgie 24:06
Yeah.
Geoff 24:08
Like it’s, it’s so bad, misdirection. What, hidden costs, friend spam. Oh, yeah. When they’re like, oh, you have to share to like six people on your share to your Twitter account before you can actually progress, or, I think Medium is also like a a used to have this, where they’re like, oh, you have to pay to read the rest of this article. And then now you see it on all the other websites nowadays. They try and get you to pay to read the rest of the article. And sometimes never let you read the article ever. Forced continuity. Oh, yeah. This is one where, where they have like, sometimes they have a free account type, but they make it so un-obvious that there is a free one that you think that you have to pay for it to use it, ridiculous. Oh, I got I got an app to edit photos, edit raw photos on my on my phone. And I hadn’t looked at it forever. But I came back to it recently because I took a raw photo. And I went to the Export button after I added all of the filters. And guess what happened on that export? “Subscribe now”. I couldn’t export it.
Georgie 25:33
So you’ve gone through the process of going through the process of using the app as you normally might do. And it wasn’t until the final step that they were like, well actually, give us your money.
Geoff 25:45
Exactly. Ten dollars a month or whatever to export your photo. And I’m like, oh my god, and then I was trying to find the button right. And like this must just be an ad. Like there must be the export options underneath it. Nothing. Maybe this little toggle here says “see more plans”. Maybe that the that hidden, there’s a hidden free plan? Nope. There’s no hidden free plan. You can, yeah, so I was like, oh my god, this is ridiculous. I’m I’m not, I’m not gonna pay just to export one photo that I wanted to edit that one time.
Georgie 26:19
Yeah, so that reminds me of something. But before I tell that story, I just found the word. It’s called “confirm shaming”.
Geoff 26:27
Ooh.
Georgie 26:28
So when you, confirm shaming, when you’re basically making the user confirm that they, shame, they’re, they should be ashamed for saying, “No, I don’t want to subscribe”.
Geoff 26:44
Oh yeah, you didn’t watch Game of Thrones? Shame.
Georgie 26:47
“Yeah, confirm shaming is the act of getting the user into opting into something, the option to decline is worded in such a way as to shame the user into compliance. The most common use is to get a user to sign up for a mailing list. And it is often found in exit intent modals and other pop ups”. So yeah, anyway, yeah, my story was, your your story just reminded me of trying to find out shipping costs. So because we purchase things—
Geoff 27:16
Yeah. (laughs)
Georgie 27:17
We like to purchase things like internationally, maybe if we don’t have access to them in Australia, or wherever you live. And sometimes shipping fees can be quite expensive. But it’s not always clear how much there’s, how much the shipping costs, you go to the shipping page, doesn’t really tell you, it says, you’ll find out at checkout, essentially. And so what I do to save time, because what you went through, to adding all the photos and whatnot, I don’t want to go shopping, add the things to my cart, and they’re like, “by the way, it will cost you $80 to send all of this”. So I just put, I just don’t shop, quote unquote, I just grab a couple of things from like from the store, put them in the cart. And then I put my details in to check how much the shipping costs. I just don’t know why they can’t be more transparent about this.
Geoff 28:04
Yeah, it’s ridiculous. It’s, it’s I think it’s an obvious grab for our details, right? They were like, okay, they wanted to buy, at least we got their email. Gotcha. Yeah, although I use Safari’s, or Apple’s like random email generator now.
Georgie 28:24
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 28:24
Which is pretty good.
Georgie 28:26
But my main point was more about like, you don’t know how much the shipping is gonna cost until the end.
Geoff 28:33
So so many places I’ve had to sign up just to just to find out how much shipping costs, just to abandon the cart, and then for them to email you like five times to get you back, you still got stuff in there. Like yeah, I know, didn’t want it. Stupid shipping costs too much.
Georgie 28:49
Speaking of abandoned carts, I think someone said, maybe it was in a tweet by a comedian, I can’t remember. But they said it really like, like it blew their mind or if they found it funny that it’s actually legal to go into a grocery store—this might have been America, but to go into a grocery store—it’s probably illegal here to let’s just try it one day, Geoff. Get a shopping trolley, shopping cart, whatever you might call it. Start putting things in there just put anything like ever just put like lettuce, just put like two, two 10 packs of toilet roll. Put some cheese in there, put like half the confectionery aisle, and then just leave it. Just leave it and and walk out of the, don’t pay for, just leave it in the just the full shopping cart and get out of the store. And that’s legal.
Geoff 29:43
I swear most people... I swear I’ve seen this though. Like I’m walking. You know when you’re walking up to the to the exit to go pay for stuff and you see some carts just left out there with like just a bunch of random stuff. Maybe it’s the staff like, stocking. But the yeah, I think I’ve seen, I’ve seen maybe some people just leave full shopping cart in the middle of the shopping centre, oh, in the middle of the grocery store.
Georgie 30:11
My guess is that someone left it, maybe with a couple of things, and then at the check out some people change their minds about what was in their own cart. And they’re like, “I don’t want these canned peas. I’m gonna put them in this seemingly abandoned shopping cart”.
Geoff 30:27
Yeah, that makes sense. That does make sense. It’s actually kind of funny, right? If, when you’re going around, doing some grocery shopping, you’re going up and down the aisles and you see someone with an enormous amount of one thing. Like, why? Why do you need, why do you need like, three, four crates of like water bottles or something like that?
Georgie 30:54
I haven’t seen that in a while, but I usually my first assumption is that they’re going to make, what do you call it, meal plan? They’re planning to make a lot, or they’re having a party.
Geoff 31:04
Yeah, I know the water bottle one. Some people just don’t like tap water at all.
Georgie 31:09
Ah yeah.
Geoff 31:09
They just, they just drink out of water bottles. But but yeah, I’m always I’m always intrigued when I see someone with an enormous amount of one one type of thing. Although I can’t think of any right now, maybe Shapes, you know, the whole whole cart of Shapes.
Georgie 31:25
Maybe it’s because some of these items are on sale. Stockpile?
Geoff 31:31
Yeah. Did I did I ever talk about my obsession with Lucky Charms on here.
Georgie 31:38
You mentioned, you mentioned that they were good because we were talking about WeetBix
Geoff 31:41
That’s right. That’s right. WeetBix, how many do you do?
Georgie 31:43
Now I see them! Now I see the Lucky Charms and then like—
Geoff 31:47
Where do you see them?!
Georgie 31:49
Well, it’s so funny, right? Because I never paid attention. And then I was just having I was just having lunch in a cafe and I saw them at the at the like grocery store opposite and I sent me the picture like I zoomed right in. I was like—
Geoff 32:02
Oh yeah.
Georgie 32:03
I know what that is. And then just recently, across the road from my office, there was a convenience store that got kind of done up and maybe restocked.
Geoff 32:11
Oh man.
Georgie 32:12
And then I saw Lucky Charms in the window. So I’m seeing it everywhere now.
Geoff 32:17
Seeing it everywhere. I was in the city the other day and I walked past the probably the fanciest 7-11 I’ve ever seen. Because they had like, ceiling floor to ceiling glass windows. It was like curved glass windows. And I was just like holy crap. Why is this such a fancy 7-11 But I try only, I try to only get Lucky Charms like once or twice a year—
Georgie 32:43
Cos they’re bad for you?
Geoff 32:45
No, because they’re expensive.
Georgie 32:46
Oh.
Geoff 32:46
Really. It’s like what’s the smallest box grams? I don’t know. Lucky Charms—
Georgie 32:53
Of cereal or just Lucky Charms?
Geoff 32:56
I mean...
Georgie 32:57
200?
Geoff 32:59
200 grams. Here we go. You can buy you can you can kind of look up look them up. $27 for what...
Georgie 33:09
Yeah, they’re expensive right?
Geoff 33:11
Wait, this is a large box. This is one point—wait. This can’t be 1.3 kilos. No way.
Georgie 33:17
That’s a lot. Yes.
Geoff 33:17
Way too many.
Georgie 33:18
I think I’ve seen maybe half the size of that and it’s like $15.
Geoff 33:22
Exactly.
Georgie 33:23
It’s like a standard size cereal box.
Geoff 33:25
So 297 grams box—it’s like it’s $10 on this website but I’m sure shipping is like killer. But yeah.
Georgie 33:33
Yeah look, delivery $15.
Geoff 33:36
Delivery $15! So I have to buy like six packs of this to make—
Georgie 33:41
To feel worth it.
Geoff 33:43
Yes 60, 70, that is spending $75 on cereal. So there’s this one IGA—what, what, is IGA global? IGA.
Georgie 33:56
I feel like it could be?
Geoff 33:58
Independent Grocers of Australia. Wow, it’s literally in its name is Australia.
Georgie 34:03
Shit, didn’t know this. Today I learned.
Geoff 34:06
I wouldn’t call them boutique but I’d call them like smaller than your av... Like if you were what’s, like, Wal, Walmart, no Walmart, Walgreens? Walgreens. It’s massive but the smaller version of those ones.
Georgie 34:18
Yeah, I guess Walgreens is like smallish but...
Geoff 34:22
Yeah,
Georgie 34:23
Yeah. Yeah, like you said, not boutique?
Geoff 34:25
Whole Foods America? No, it’s not like Whole Foods.
Georgie 34:30
Whole Foods is probably boutique level.
Geoff 34:32
Whole Foods is huge.
Georgie 34:32
Oh, is it?
Geoff 34:33
Look at this building. I’ve never—Whole Foods Look at that.
Georgie 34:37
Oh, I think I’m confusing with Trader Joe’s.
Geoff 34:40
Trader Joe’s. That’s the one, that’s the one Trader Joe’s. It’s, Trader Joe’s is more like Harris Farmers. (laughs)
Georgie 34:49
(laughs) We’re making comparison... (inaudible)
Geoff 34:49
This is hard. Anyway, so it’s a smaller supermarket. And there’s only, there’s one out in, like 20, 30 minutes away in a place called Parramatta. I think we’ve talked about Parramatta before.
Georgie 35:05
Yeah, we have.
Geoff 35:06
Anyways there is one IGA that sells it for $11 a box and I’m like, holy shit, that’s a good deal. So I went there, travelled all the way specifically for the box we had other things to do—
Georgie 35:17
They sold out.
Geoff 35:19
And I don’t even see the sign for it anymore. Like there’s not even the label, wasn’t even sold out, I had to deal with getting Captain Crunch instead.
Georgie 35:29
Hey, I don’t remember in the picture I sent you if it if it had like the price on it, but you should just let me know. I’ll see. I’ll see what they are at my local.
Geoff 35:39
I mean, yeah, if you see Lucky Charms you just, you tweet me the price and location.
Georgie 35:47
Why don’t you ask on Twitter. “Hey, what’s the cheapest Lucky Charms?”
Geoff 35:50
Cheapest Lucky Charms in Sydney. Just ask on Twitter. Yeah, maybe I’ll do Twitter.
Georgie 35:57
Do it.
Geoff 35:57
So yeah, I mean it’s a hard life liking American stuff. I went to Bar Luca recently. Like—
Georgie 36:09
Is that the one in, it’s like Darlinghurst, like?
Geoff 36:14
Yeah?
Georgie 36:15
Yeah.
Geoff 36:15
I think Darling, Darling Harbour. Darlinghurst is... you know what, we have Darling Square, Darlinghurst—
Georgie 36:23
Yeah.
Geoff 36:23
Darling Harbour.
Georgie 36:25
Darlinghurst is further from Darling Square though.
Geoff 36:28
Yes, it’s they’re all further from each other. I don’t think like they’re remotely close to each other.
Georgie 36:33
Darling Harbour is kind of near Darling Quarter though.
Geoff 36:38
Yeah, it’s kind of.
Georgie 36:39
Darlinghurst is like, it’s not even considered the CBD. I don’t think. I think.
Geoff 36:44
Yeah, it’s not.
Georgie 36:45
It’s out towards Potts Point. More east or whatever.
Geoff 36:48
We also have Darling Park.
Georgie 36:50
Wait, which one’s Darling Park?
Geoff 36:52
Darling Park is the one where Commonwealth Bank is.
Georgie 36:55
Wait, that’s, that’s right where the Darling Quarter is. (laughs)
Geoff 37:00
Anyways, we’ve got a lot of darlings going on. But it’s near Circular Quay, the the Bar Luca, anyways, this is, a it’s a pub, that’s some specialty burgers.
Georgie 37:12
BL Burgers?
Geoff 37:12
BL Burgers.
Georgie 37:16
Is what they‘re called yeah.
Geoff 37:16
They, they’re, they’re I think they were one of the first places to do very tall stack burgers besides the American five guys and stuff like that, but you go there and you get lots of things like onion rings and fried eggs and like they put poutine inside your burger. Just put whatever crap. But for a while it was one of the best burgers known as the Blame Canada.
Georgie 37:41
Mhm. Yeah.
Geoff 37:42
Yeah, Maple Glazed bacon, they had poutine, not real poutine, for anyone like stressing about it from Canada. It’s not real poutine. And a beef patty and I can’t remember what else they put in there. Anyways, just the best. I went there recently and I’m sad to report that is no longer that good anymore.
Georgie 38:05
Oh, that’s funny, because like I had I first had them like, yeah, maybe five years ago. And then I might have gotten like, ordered from there in the middle of the pandemic, lockdown or whatever. But I don’t think I had that burger. I might have just—like I am the kind of person to—like I’m not a bloody burger connoisseur like Geoff—but I look for, well one thing, like I have to, what do you called this, it’s like a split personality. One half is like, need to find the best veggie burger ever.
Geoff 38:34
Oh yeah.
Georgie 38:34
And then I complain about when people do mushroom burgers because that’s like a pathetic excuse for a veggie burger please. And then the other half—
Geoff 38:43
Basic bitch type.
Georgie 38:45
(laughs) And the other half of me is like made to find really good like American cheeseburger like basically a McDonald’s cheeseburger but glorified like good shit, like I look for that. That’s what I look for, to with the pickles with the mustard with the, yeah.
Geoff 38:59
So Bar Luca wouldn’t be your jam, essentially.
Georgie 39:02
Yeah, I must have ordered something else, can’t remember.
Geoff 39:05
Yeah, the, so I got the regular burger I didn’t actually get the Blame Canada this time, because I was, I wanted chips. So, and usually it’s just too big. But it’s so, it was just like flat, they changed to a smash patty but it didn’t taste like anything, was just super bland. And I was like what’s gone? What’s gone wrong? It used to be at least decent. But you’re thinking of Mary’s. Mary’s—
Georgie 39:31
I fucking hate Mary’s—
Geoff 39:32
What how!
Georgie 39:32
Maybe. Maybe it’s because, maybe it is because the last time and last time and the first time I had Mary’s I was—I didn’t eat meat.
Geoff 39:41
Oh wow, alright.
Georgie 39:42
I had the I had the fish burger because I think the veggie burger was like, or, they didn’t have one. So I had the fish burger because I ate fish and it was like just gross. But I think, I’m trying to remember because I’ve I’ve kind of gone through and tried a bunch of different burger places, but I kind of forget their names.
Geoff 40:00
(laughs)
Georgie 40:00
I remember liking Hux, Huxtaburger in Redfern. That was good.
Geoff 40:04
I know it. I don’t think I’ve eaten it.
Georgie 40:05
There was some weird one which I’m not sure was that good but it’s called Suburgia. Like suburbia but sub burgia. And all of—
Geoff 40:16
I would have said, I would essentially want subs in a in a burger for burg... sub... burgia.
Georgie 40:24
Yeah yeah there it is, the...
Geoff 40:26
Burgs in the burbs? Burgs in the burbs.
Georgie 40:30
All of the burgers are named after burbs, suburbs in Sydney, which is kinda—
Geoff 40:36
Where is it?
Georgie 40:37
I don’t know. I think it might be in Redfern maybe.
Geoff 40:40
Okay anyways yeah, maybe I’ll give this a go. To be honest there’s no burgers where I am, it’s just—oh yeah Epping, Ashfield, Drummoyne, Chatswood. Of course the Southern Fried chicken one is Chatswood.
Georgie 40:56
Yeah.
Geoff 40:58
This is really interesting.
Georgie 40:59
It is interesting because of the burgers being named after suburbs, but I don’t know if they’re like accurate or whatever. Actually, do they have a, do they have a Merrylands? I know they have a Parramatta but.
Geoff 41:10
L, M, N, O, P. No. There’s not in... Watsons Bay, Vaucluse... Jesus of Suburgia. Suburgia, this is really funny.
Georgie 41:22
Oh Guildford, that’s fucking hilarious. What a hole. No offense to anyone who lives in Guildford but.
Geoff 41:29
Indicated by the ingredients: lettuce, tomato, pineapple, fried chicken, double bacon, double cheese, garlic slaw.
Georgie 41:36
That’s disgusting and it kind of reflects how kind of—excuse me if I, if the if the area has changed, but I remember Guildford being a little bit derro. I think I went to preschool there.
Geoff 41:48
Derelict is the full terminology for derro. We are here, translators of Sydney, of Australian slang.
Georgie 41:57
Yeah, also I’m allowed to say this shit, because I am from Western Sydney so I can bag out. I can bag out Western.
Geoff 42:04
Do you know what else we should bag out of, this episode?
Georgie 42:07
Yes.
Geoff 42:10
So don’t forget to follow us on @toastroastpod on Instagram and Twitter. Not, maybe just Twitter. Not Instagram.
Georgie 42:19
And I’m sure Geoff will post his finding the cheapest Lucky Charms in Sydney.
Geoff 42:24
Yes, help me find or mail it to me. I mean, I’m open... our PO box is...
Georgie 42:32
Damn, no, we’re not there yet.
Geoff 42:33
No. PO boxes. Don’t give me gifts. We all know the conversation about gifts.
Georgie 42:39
Yeah. You can find our episodes on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big burger.
Geoff 42:51
Mmm. And so new episodes every Monday.
Georgie 42:53
See you next week.
Geoff 42:55
Bye.
