The cereals that made their childhood, advertising that could do harm to children and candy that makes you poop.
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The cereals that made their childhood, advertising that could do harm to children and candy that makes you poop.
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Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:08
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host, Georgie and I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:17
Hello. Welcome back everybody, it’s been a tough last week of not having another episode, right? (laughs)
Georgie 0:31
(laughs) I don’t know, I think people could live without us.
Geoff 0:33
Yeah, probably. I don’t even know who’s listening.
Georgie 0:37
I know at least one person who’s listening.
Geoff 0:39
Me too. So we’re just talking to people, right?
Georgie 0:42
We’re just talking to two people. So where did these 1000 downloads come from?
Geoff 0:48
So just two people what, like listening to us? 500 times?
Georgie 0:53
What would you what would you do? What would you do? If—OK look, you know what, you know what annoys me is how, like, success doesn’t happen overnight, but people—like
Geoff 1:03
Assume it is?
Georgie 1:03
Articles. Yeah, articles make it sound like someone just woke up one day. And and they were really successful.
Geoff 1:16
Yeah.
Georgie 1:17
So I was actually going to ask, like, what would you do if you woke up tomorrow? And we had like, a million downloads. I mean, that’s not gonna happen. Because it’s not realistic. This doesn’t happen.
Geoff 1:29
Ahh...
Georgie 1:29
I’d imagine how it would play out is, we release this episode, or an episode, we tweet about it. Possibly somebody discovers that tweet listens to the episode.
Geoff 1:43
Uh, Richard, Richard Branson. Richard Branson.
Georgie 1:47
(laughs) Large, someone with a large amount of followers. And then they’ll be like, “Wow, this is really good. I really like this”.
Geoff 1:54
We’ll cancel our entire podcast immediately.
Georgie 1:58
He might sponsor us.
Geoff 2:00
No, no, no, we’ll cancel the podcast immediately. If that ever happens.
Georgie 2:03
Oh, you don’t want to, I see. You’re just like, I don’t want to be famous. But um, just just humour me for a sec. So that might happen. And then he shares an episode. And then maybe we get like an influx of downloads, but then it might die down after like, a couple of weeks—also this isn’t me daydreaming, I’m just being hypothetical. I don’t actually wish for the life of me that we go viral. Because, jeez.
Geoff 2:27
Yeah, we can’t have any controversial opinions anymore.
Georgie 2:33
Though that‘s what we’re about though, slightly controversial.
Geoff 2:38
So do you pour the cereal first or the milk first?
Georgie 2:43
Oh my god, I, literally asked someone in a Zoom. Actually, I didn’t ask the person, I, it was a technology meeting that involved like 50 people. And I just typed it in the chat because we recently had a bit of an update to our situation at work and they’ve installed like, a bunch of—not installed—but they’ve introduced like a breakfast bar with like some cereal and, variety of cereals, that we can now like use to have have lunch and—ah, have lunch? Breakfast.
Geoff 3:20
If you want lunch, cereal for lunch. That’s perfectly fine. I’ve done it.
Georgie 3:24
Yeah. Yeah, so the situation is that we used to have chefs who cooked for us but now they’ve found full time employment elsewhere. So we’re finding other options for like food. But then I asked, yeah, do you pour the cereal or the milk in? Because I don’t know, it’s just it’s just it’s a thing for some reason. I don’t have, I don’t feel strongly either way, because I don’t eat cereal. I also actually, like, I don’t even drink milk, like I drink soy milk in my coffee and stuff.
Geoff 3:57
Yeah.
Georgie 3:58
Because I’m lactose intolerant but I don’t eat cereal is like a breakfast item.
Geoff 4:02
What do you eat cereal as if not a breakfast item?
Georgie 4:05
I just don’t. I just don’t.
Geoff 4:09
Do you eat it as like dessert? You know the, you know the, I don’t even know what they call them.
Georgie 4:15
Parfait?
Geoff 4:15
But you get the—
Georgie 4:15
Parfait?
Geoff 4:15
You get the, nah, you get the rice bubbles or whatever and then you like, they make cake essentially, out of it, with the syrup or the—
Georgie 4:25
Oh, I was thinking of the yeah, the parfait which is in the glass.
Geoff 4:28
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 4:28
You pour like cream in it.
Geoff 4:30
That, that one too. Yes. Cereal as a dessert.
Georgie 4:33
No, but I have to admit, you know, you know there’s, you know WeetBix—I just I fucking hate WeetBix.
Geoff 4:39
Yeah.
Georgie 4:40
We’ll come back to this hating WeetBix thing, but they had an like an offshoot or like a different product called WeetBix Bites.
Geoff 4:47
Oh, they’re the best!
Georgie 4:48
They’re like—oh yeah!
Geoff 4:49
I don’t I also don’t like WeetBix, but like WeetBix Bites.
Georgie 4:54
Okay, so WeetBix is like, what do you call it, wheat? Like a like a grain kind of cereal bar, I guess you could say is probably the best way to describe it.
Geoff 5:02
I guess, to be closer, yeah, it’s an, a bar format, a bar, like, shape, and it’s like quite thick I think maybe like maybe five, like 5, 6, 7, 8 layers. It’s like a, lay, layers of wheat shards.
Georgie 5:18
And the, and the Bites, they’re like, smaller like, you know as, imagine like a small—
Geoff 5:23
Quarter of the size. Right? Like a brick.
Georgie 5:26
Yeah, just a little bite sized piece. And they, I think they most of them have fruit in like a dried—
Geoff 5:32
Honey WeetBix Bites.
Georgie 5:35
I love the berry one. So WeetBix is an, I guess an Australian version of I think they have something similar in the US.
Geoff 5:43
Let’s have a look. Weet... WeetBix... US.
Georgie 5:48
I am gonna just out and say they taste like cardboard.
Geoff 5:53
They are made of cardboard, didn’t you know that? No, jokes, jokes.
Georgie 5:59
I think they called Weetabix.
Geoff 6:00
In, in the US you have Weetabix. It’s basically the same thing as WeetBix for Australia.
Georgie 6:07
But it looks I think ours looks more brown. That actually looks like yellow.
Geoff 6:12
Yeah, ours is healthier. Probably. Ours is actually probably made of wheat. (laughs)
Georgie 6:16
Probably theirs might have additives in it, maybe to make it look more appealing.
Geoff 6:21
Yeah.
Georgie 6:21
I wouldn’t be surprised. So yeah, 100% agree. WeetBix Bites, a thousand times better than WeetBix. So their—I don’t know if these advertisements exist anymore. But in Australia, the WeetBix ads often had Australian cricketers on them. And they would all show like each of them and cut to each of them sitting at a table with a bowl of WeetBix. And the question, like that the voiceover would say is, “how many do you do?” And they will tell you how many WeetBix, of these WeetBix whatever biscuits, or whatever you want to call them, bars, that they would eat in their breakfast with milk.
Geoff 7:04
I remember these.
Georgie 7:06
How many they’d eat for breakfast every day. And they’ll be almost pretty much upwards of like 10.
Geoff 7:13
(laughs) Fuck.
Georgie 7:13
Just, just, just think about that for a second.
Geoff 7:16
OK. Yeah.
Georgie 7:16
Ten. Right. I remember someone even said, “I do 14”. And I’m like, you’re eating 14 of these in a bowl with milk and maybe you know fruit and stuff, but you’re eating 14 bars of wheat.
Geoff 7:32
The average, let’s go with the average size of these, I’d say maybe 15 centimetres, about 15? Ten?
Georgie 7:42
No dude, smaller, smaller, they’re small. I reckon ten.
Geoff 7:46
It’s about 10 by two? By 10, 10 centimetres wide, two centimetres tall, and maybe four centimetres in width.
Georgie 7:58
Four to five.
Geoff 7:59
Four to five.
Georgie 7:59
Yeah, so I’d say that’s about like maybe four and a half inches by like one and a half inches by like one inch?
Geoff 8:07
Yeah, so we’re talking about like a muesli bar here. A muesli bar of wheat. And if you have a look at the website, one bowl of WeetBix, TM.
Georgie 8:17
(laughs) What is?
Geoff 8:17
Provides 60% of your daily wholegrain needs. Whatever, like 48 grams—
Georgie 8:23
What is one bowl, that’s subjective as?
Geoff 8:24
Yeah, that’s a, contributes over six, so 48 grams of whole daily—what does that even mean? Anyways? So basically there’s a lot, there’s a lot of a lot of stuff in this, okay, a lot of wheat.
Georgie 8:37
Hey, Geoff. Hey, Geoff, how many do you do?
Geoff 8:40
Zero! Negative five. I actually removed the wheat from my body. (laughs)
Georgie 8:48
(laughs)
Geoff 8:48
Fibre out.
Georgie 8:50
When, when was, when was the last time you ate WeetBix and not WeetBix Bites?
Geoff 8:56
Yeah, you know what? I’m sure I’ve only had it maybe twice in my lifetime.
Georgie 9:02
Seriously?
Geoff 9:02
Maybe twice, three times. Because the the thing is that when, before we moved to Australia, we stayed over during Christmas time at at my aunt’s and uncle’s place. Whilst we were living in Malaysia, we come over to Perth and stay for Christmas. And that would be like the only time that we experienced Australian stuff, of course. So we’re at we were at the mercy essentially of, this, my aunt and uncle, uncle being very Australian, he’s like, you know, “I have a shed, woodworking, I make everything, I drive across the Nullarbor in a van“ type of Australian. Right? He’s like, so close to be in Crocodile Dundee. But essentially—
Georgie 9:51
Isn’t that a stereotype?
Geoff 9:53
Oh, yeah. All of it’s a stereotype. What are you talking about. But it essentially, yeah, so he would, he would, he would have no other option. He has WeetBix. And you know what, we didn’t know what WeetBix was, and ultimately, Hannibal WeetBix I think we put to it because a normal cereal bowl can really only fit two of these in there. You got to be looking at like a massive salad bowl if you want 10 to 14 of these. (laughs)
Georgie 10:22
(laughs)
Geoff 10:22
Like, it’s insane. So that that’s kind of like, I think I’m only had like, yeah, two or three times and maybe once when I moved.
Georgie 10:29
Did you, did you finish the two? So you did two? Like how many did you do?
Geoff 10:35
I did two. And I don’t remember if I finished it or not. It took—like you put milk with it. And all of a sudden it becomes just a bowl of mush. You like why, it’s just, zero? You have to eat it really fast, essentially. To—
Georgie 10:48
Yeah.
Geoff 10:49
Crunch.
Georgie 10:49
Yeah.
Geoff 10:49
How many do you do?
Georgie 10:49
I had sort of—I don’t do any now. Certainly not. So I had WeetBix a little bit when I was like, maybe about seven years old, fucking hated it. And then I didn’t have cereal for a while. And then I think, I think my brother saw an eating or we had it in the house. And it was maybe about 10 years later, I was like a teenager and I was just like, I need to eat something. And then I’d eat some, eat some WeetBix. When I was seven, I just remember my mum put two in the cereal bowl, and then added milk. And I was like, okay, cool, whatever, right? Because when you’re a kid just kind of eat what your parents give you. And like I just struggled so much because I was like, I don’t—it doesn’t taste that great.
Geoff 11:31
Yeah.
Georgie 11:32
Tastes like cardboard, as we have established. And like you said, it tends to mush. And I couldn’t eat it fast enough. Because I generally even now as an adult, I don’t eat very fast. And so by the time I got to like one and a half, it’s just like just this mess in the bowl.
Geoff 11:50
So filling as well, like even half or one of it would be enough to fill like a reg—like, I don’t know, regular size people.
Georgie 12:00
Yeah. But you were saying, you were saying—yeah Geoff is pretty small, everybody. But you were saying that they’re like a bar, like a muesli bar right. And that is about the size that they are and honestly, I eat a muesli bar today as like a snack and I’m good. Like, it’s a good filling snack like between like your main meals. But when I was when I was 17 or you know, a teenager, and I quote unquote, revisited WeetBix or whatever.
Geoff 12:29
Haha, revisited.
Georgie 12:29
I thought, I wonder. I wonder if I can eat more because theoretically, I am a bigger person. I am older, my stomach capacity is probably bigger.
Geoff 12:41
Yeah.
Georgie 12:42
But you know what? I couldn’t like, I couldn’t eat more than two. I ate two. And I was like, I’m stuffed. So I’m like, how does anyone? How Does anyone do 14?
Geoff 12:52
Let’s—
Georgie 12:52
Think about it.
Geoff 12:53
Let’s roll it back right? To the ads of like the cricketers. In, in what, in what way, did they think their, like their ad would have a pos—like an impact? Right? You think about it this way. When you see an ad the ad is trying to drive you to do something. It’s normally to buy that thing?
Georgie 13:16
Yeah.
Geoff 13:17
But having cricketers tell you they eat 10 of these a day? And then you you have that effect of kids, okay, let’s see the let’s see the most, like the best possible outcome for the ad. Kids see that and say, hey, I want to be just like that cricketer. And I want to eat 10 a day. (laughs)
Georgie 13:36
(laughs)
Geoff 13:36
And then like, okay, are kids reasonably supposed to eat ten of these a day? Cuz like—
Georgie 13:42
No, I’m gonna say no, right? Like, I wasn’t like—I’m a tiny person. Generally. I’m small. And I was a small kid.
Geoff 13:50
Yeah.
Georgie 13:51
But I just can’t imagine kids eating any more than honestly even like three or four.
Geoff 13:58
This is OD levels of wheat.
Georgie 14:02
(laughs)
Geoff 14:03
Let’s have a look. Oh, there’s high fibre. Alright, so it’s high fibre, 97%, whole grain grains, legumes, Nutritional Council certified, every 100 grams of this has 1480 kilojoules. Let’s think about that, times that by 10, and put that in a child. Like? I think it’s not going to be the healthiest thing.
Georgie 14:27
I’m trying to see how many calories that is. I’m gonna, I think it’s about 350 calories.
Geoff 14:32
Jesus. OK. Let’s do average child and like, average kids. What’s it called—
Georgie 14:42
So, for?
Geoff 14:44
What do you call it? It’s the—
Georgie 14:46
Dietary intake? Suggested dietary intake. So for a brief period of time, I actually used to see this guy who, I wouldn’t say he was obsessed with WeetBix but he ate it a lot. Okay, he ate it for breakfast, and then when he got hungry and there was no, like food at home at like lunchtime—
Geoff 15:07
No!
Georgie 15:07
He would, he would eat the he would eat WeetBix and he used to work like night shifts at a supermarket. And sometimes we’d be texting like really late and he’d be like, oh, I want like a like a midnight snack or whatever. And he’d say, oh, I just, I’m just gonna eat some WeetBix. I’m like, how can you? Like? And apparently this is a thing, people eat cereal.
Geoff 15:34
Oh, I do.
Georgie 15:35
As a midnight snack.
Geoff 15:35
Yeah, I do that cereal as a midnight snack.
Georgie 15:37
But but, but you eat the WeetBix Bites right? You’re not eating... (laughs)
Geoff 15:41
I eat Lucky Charms for break, for, for midnight snack. This is, this is the real shit right here. Wait, what? This is not the website.
Georgie 15:52
That’s not it.
Geoff 15:52
I clicked on the website, Australia local news agency. No, no, no. Images, Lucky Charms cereal. That’s the shit. Yum.
Georgie 15:59
Wait, where do you buy them here because I didn’t even,
Geoff 16:02
Um, there’s there’s an IGA in Parramatta that sells these.
Georgie 16:06
Do they sell them at Costco I would assume?
Geoff 16:08
Maybe, I’ve never seen I’ve never been into Costco. But I’ve also never heard anybody say that it’s in Costco. You can get them at those British specialty stores. But the thing is—
Georgie 16:18
Oh, yeah yeah, I know what you’re talking about.
Geoff 16:19
But this shit is like 15, like $15 a box and we’re talking—
Georgie 16:26
What!
Geoff 16:26
About 326 grams or 11.5 ounces. So—
Georgie 16:30
Wait $15 a box!
Geoff 16:31
$15 a box, or more.
Georgie 16:33
You’re paying like, you’re paying like $7 for air.
Geoff 16:36
Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. And, let’s have a look you can buy this, where can you buy this but essentially you can you buy this at the American candy store have a look at the... the Catch or something, Catch of the Day?
Georgie 16:52
Oh yeah. Because I don’t think I’ve actually ever had them.
Geoff 16:54
Wow, that’s even less, 297 grams. and Hey There $15 for 297 grams. The IGA in Parramatta sells it for $11 for 297 grams but still not a...
Georgie 17:07
Wait, so so there’s little things that, what, marshmallows it says.
Geoff 17:10
Yeah, they’re like condensed marshmallows, so they’re not like the big puffy ones that are really soft and squishy. These are like a bit like more like a hard candy. Not even not a hard candy but like a harder—
Georgie 17:22
It’s firmer.
Geoff 17:23
Firmer, you can bite it, and it doesn’t dissolve as fast inside your milk. And the other one is alphabets so that just basic wheat and shapes such a good mix because you get that sweet, get that savoury, and it’s balanced. It’s great. The most unhealthiest thing in the world.
Georgie 17:41
(laughs)
Geoff 17:41
So I try restrict myself, I don’t, I buy this like maybe once or twice a year. I’ll get a box.
Georgie 17:47
Yes, yes.
Geoff 17:48
Because it’s so damn expensive. But yeah, the nutritional value is like zero. We’re going from five star WeetBix by the way, health rating five star WeetBix to like zero. What’s the health rating on this? Oh, wait, America doesn’t have one.
Georgie 18:05
Sometimes they don’t have they don’t have the Health Star Rating on some foods. And it’s sort of like, does that mean it’s bad or they just haven’t gone through that process of getting the star on there.
Geoff 18:15
I think it’s just it’s so bad that they didn’t even bother getting the stars.
Georgie 18:20
I also think that they said to take it with a grain of salt—haha, grain of salt.
Geoff 18:25
Pinch of salt, bag of salt.
Georgie 18:26
They said to take that that information with a grain of salt because like it doesn’t mean that this has all the nutrients you could ever want or need or like, it’s not, it’s not, doesn’t mean eat eat a whole packet of these, right?
Geoff 18:39
Yeah. It’s not indicative of like, yeah.
Georgie 18:41
Yeah, cuz I think my soy milk that I buy has like, four and a half or five stars. And it’s like yeah, but I’m not drinking one of these in a day. Haha, how many do you do? Two cartons.
Geoff 18:54
So, back to the nutrition for kids. So how many? How many? How many calories was in the WeetBix? For like 10?
Georgie 19:03
It was like, I calculated like 350 calories for like a serving?
Geoff 19:07
For a serving. Okay, that’s fair. Like they have they have 1000, to 1400 calories, but I think that’s ages two to four daily. So, woah. If they put like 400 in one serving.
Georgie 19:20
(laughs) Yeah yeah, like eight WeetBix, they are like...
Geoff 19:31
Imagine how often they’ll go to the bathroom. Like, they’d be like shitting themselves all day.
Georgie 19:36
Well, hang on. That’s another thing. Fibre, right wait, what’s the fibre content?
Geoff 19:41
Fibre content? (laughs) Let’s go with, here you go, nutrition...
Georgie 19:47
Because, because fibre is good for kids.
Geoff 19:50
Here you go, per 100 grams is 1480. That’s already too much right? Okay, so that’s kilojoules not calories, that’s 355. So...
Georgie 19:59
I’m just... I’m gonna, I think it’s about...
Geoff 20:02
Dietary fibre, here you go, 12.9 per 100 grams. Per serve, what’s a serve? A serve? Serving per pack is one? No way, serving size...
Georgie 20:16
Serving size is two biscuits. Ah, so it is two. So we were eating the serving size.
Geoff 20:21
Five times that, so that’s like what, 60, that’s 64, 64... Wait, wait five times is 40 grams of dietary fibre in one sitting? Jesus. Anyways.
Georgie 20:36
Have I told you about that time—is this like TMI for the podcast? Probably not. But have I told you about the time I got diagnosed with a full colon?
Geoff 20:46
Oh, yeah, I remember this. Yes. Your doctor told you something very specific.
Georgie 20:51
Okay, so like, I’ll try and keep this brief because you don’t need to hear all the details. But I went to the doctor with some sort of like hip pain, like, like, just above my hip bone sort of thing on one side, and it actually hurt to walk. And I don’t think had any other symptoms other than like, yeah, it’s hurting like, my hip and my back.
Geoff 21:17
(laughs) I know...
Georgie 21:17
How come you’re laughing? (laughs) I essentially had to get like, a physical examination. (laughs) And I had to get a CT scan. That’s the one where you, you drink.
Geoff 21:35
Oh, that horrible juice.
Georgie 21:35
You have to drink this terrible. Yeah, like kind of juice that comes up on the CT scan. Like to make stuff stand out.
Geoff 21:41
I think it’s called contrasting liquid of some sort.
Georgie 21:44
Yeah, you have to hold your pee, just like, a hold your bladder for a little bit. And then they do the scan, a little bit uncomfortable.
Geoff 21:50
Quick point about that.
Georgie 21:52
Yeah.
Geoff 21:52
Isn’t that the most annoying thing, is that you yourself have held your piss for like, a long time before. But as soon as someone tells you, you have to hold it, you’re like, oh shit. I can’t hold it anymore. (laughs)
Georgie 22:06
Yeah. (laugh) And then I had to get an x ray. And they would, they just couldn’t figure out what’s going on. Like, everything’s fine. They were asking me if I was on my cycle, you know? And then I went to a different doctor. And he said, I think you’re really constipated. I was like, what? I didn’t, I didn’t get it. Because like, I felt like my toilet habits were fine around that time. But yeah, I think he, actually I think maybe then I got the X ray, because the ultrasound was something different, like doing all these—
Geoff 22:40
Doing the full works on you.
Georgie 22:41
They did everything, right. And then he was like, get an x ray. I think it was an x ray. Because you don’t really think that a bone is broken when you having like a muscle ache?
Geoff 22:50
Yeah.
Georgie 22:51
And x rays are commonly used to see where the bones are broken. So I got an x ray. And I think the diagnosis came back and it said just said like, “loaded colon”. And if you look at the x ray, and you just see it’s like, all cloudy around my bowel area. And so it was yeah, it was quite, it was quite bad. And then it had caused this like domino effect, it was... Yeah, it because my colon was full and I wasn’t digesting food properly. For whatever reason. They suggested having some fibre, but I had fibre and it didn’t help that much. Right. It made me go to the toilet, but I was still in pain. But the funny thing—funny because I’m laughing at it now but it’s actually quite serious—was that it was so like, it was so bad that it started making a varicose vein on like one of my ovaries or something.
Geoff 23:44
Holy shit.
Georgie 23:44
And then it was like yeah, in turn causing like the back pain and shit and making it hard to walk. And I went to the pharmacy and I basically suggested taking an oral enema.
Geoff 23:57
Yeah.
Georgie 23:57
And the name of it was quite funny. It’s called Fleet.
Geoff 24:01
Mhmm!
Georgie 24:01
I think now you can’t get it over the counter I think someone else to actually prescribe it to you. But okay, this is the TMI part—
Geoff 24:12
So far not TMI? (laughs)
Georgie 24:12
So I took the oral enemam like they were telling me how to prepare they were like you know, you can might have to be on the toilet for a bit while it empties your insides. But you you will lose a lot of like water and so you want to have like Gatorade or, what’s it called, Hydralite, you want to have electrolytes or something sweet. So I literally—(laughs)—I’ll just say it in one sentence. I remember it was like I was shitting water at some point. (laughs) But yeah.
Geoff 24:43
Yeah.
Georgie 24:43
Fibre, kids. Fibre.
Geoff 24:46
I think I distinctly remembered the funny part that I was thinking of, was that your doctor literally told you that you’re full of shit. (laughs)
Georgie 24:51
(laughs) Yeah.
Geoff 24:59
But yeah.
Georgie 25:00
Fibre but not too much fibre, because then...
Geoff 25:02
Yeah you need to retain—
Georgie 25:03
You’ll be farting?
Geoff 25:05
The, but, but yeah, that ends our that’s that ends our medical advice segment. I was looking through Instagram though and one of my friends had posted a picture of this, where—
Georgie 25:24
Chocolate Monte?
Geoff 25:25
Chocolate Monte, and if you take a closer look, hey look that scaled pretty okay. It’s 0.5 stars.
Georgie 25:37
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 25:37
They, they posted the picture and they said that they thought it said five stars. Their mind was blown.
Georgie 25:49
(laughs) Healthy chocolate biscuits!
Geoff 25:49
I was like, imagine if a Monte was five star health. Oh my god, it puts it on par with the WeetBix at five star health rating. And look, if you really want, if you really want to up—
Georgie 26:04
What’s the honey—
Geoff 26:05
It’s four stars for the honey WeetBix, honey WeetBix, and four star for the Wildberry ones. So apparently if they get smaller and you actually make them like edible you have to lose a star on the health rating. But yeah, but yeah, please please don’t—this is like a laxative if you eat ten of them in one sitting.
Georgie 26:27
(laughs)
Geoff 26:32
Oh speaking of laxatives.
Georgie 26:33
Yeah. When you when you read the label of like a pack of gum, it’s like—
Geoff 26:37
Wait!
Georgie 26:38
“Excess consumption can result in a laxative effect”.
Geoff 26:41
Wait wait, is gum, gum laxative effect?
Georgie 26:45
Haha, Jols.
Geoff 26:45
Oh my god, this is hilarious.
Georgie 26:47
No gum, gum is a laxative effect!
Geoff 26:49
Really? Because Jols is hilarious, we had been eating Jols as kids because mum just had a box, everywhere, she had it like in the kitchen, in the car like we get out get out from school and she’d be like, want to pop a Jols, right. So all of these, it’s like, this is 99% sugar free pastilles. They like—
Georgie 27:07
They’re tiny, they’re like the size of a fingernail. Like a little fingernail.
Geoff 27:11
And they’re really flavourful and they’re like super healthy. But like, when, I think when when I got a little bit older I, I looked at the box and on the side it said too many will have a laxative effect, and man, the the temptation to just have a ton of them just to see what would happen was—
Georgie 27:32
Really? No, I think it says it can have, like it’s not like a definite thing. But yeah.
Geoff 27:40
It was hilarious though. We’re like, oh my god, this could make you just shit tons. But I think we ate enough of them.
Georgie 27:47
You know Tic Tacs? Tic Tacs do the same. Because I remember it was so easy to eat you know the so the Tic Tac ads had like people having two at a time, like, oh two and it will freshen your breath. You cannot have, you gotta have more.
Geoff 28:04
How many do you do?
Georgie 28:05
(laughs) I do about like 20.
Geoff 28:10
I remember doing that for the Eclipse, you know the Eclipse—
Georgie 28:14
Oh, the mints?
Geoff 28:18
Right right. Sugar free sp... Yeah.
Georgie 28:20
The chewy ones?
Geoff 28:20
No, hard ones. Man. These things, also popping them like it’s hot.
Georgie 28:26
I didn’t like the, I liked it when they did the chewy ones though. De—yeah, I was eating a lot.
Geoff 28:31
Chewy ones.
Georgie 28:32
Yeah.
Geoff 28:33
These ones were like, because of the tin you would like open it and you would try and like give someone one.
Georgie 28:39
(laughs)
Geoff 28:39
But you give them like five.
Georgie 28:45
(laughs)
Geoff 28:45
One time my friend like literally (laughs) poured almost half a can. I don’t know how many is in a can. Let me find out.
Georgie 28:51
Like, what do I do? But I think the thing with those is that they really are very minty. So I find them more difficult to eat a lot of compared to like Tic Tacs, because Tic Tacs are so tiny, like you’re just like, two? I don’t feel like my breath’s fresh, I want some more sweet stuff.
Geoff 29:08
The, I don’t know how many is in one, but they have quite a few.
Georgie 29:14
Guess how many Eclipse are in the tin.
Geoff 29:14
You’ll win a prize. What’s 40 grams? 20 grams of mints, let’s go with 20 grams of mints, and well my friend and I just said well challenge accepted, and we dumped the whole thing in our mouth.
Georgie 29:30
Oh shit.
Geoff 29:30
And said you know what, let’s see who can hold out.
Georgie 29:33
Do these have a laxative effect as well?
Geoff 29:36
I don’t know, hey. Eclipse mints, laxative...
Georgie 29:40
Nutrition, you can just say nutrition information.
Geoff 29:44
“Do not eat an entire tin of Eclipse mints”, but this is Reddit.
Georgie 29:47
Oh here we go.
Geoff 29:48
Do not eat mints blah blah blah “At Target yesterday I grabbed two packs of Eclipse Mints”... oh no I don’t want to read that. Oh, “Eclipse Mints is about the same depth and height as Jones Soda Company Candy tin”. Okay, whatever that vague reference is... sorbitol is a sugar alcohol that the body doesn’t absorb well...
Georgie 30:13
Oh yeah, sugar alcohol is not really good for you like especially if you have a lot of it.
Geoff 30:17
So “50 mint tin is about 34 grams of sorbitol which is apparently enough to ruin a good portion of your afternoon”. By doing what? “Intestinal stress”.
Georgie 30:27
He doesn’t, he doesn’t...?
Geoff 30:28
There you go, “may cause intestinal stress”.
Georgie 30:30
Yeah.
Geoff 30:31
“Do not eat more than ten per day”. Oh shit.
Georgie 30:34
This person has written, “ranging from mild discomfort to severe diarrhea”. That’s what sorbitol can do.
Geoff 30:40
Oh right, skipped the whole.... “studies over the past 15 years proven that sorbitol... mild discomfort to severe diarrhea”. “I do note that the Altoids sugar free small mints also contains sorbitol though I don’t remember if they gave me trouble”—what, dude? Are you like going around like pounding? Pounding 50 of every mint?
Georgie 31:05
Yeah, actually, what is the, what’s the motive?
Geoff 31:10
“Yikes”, is a comment, “that’s sick. Thanks for info”. (laughs)
Georgie 31:16
(laughs) Fully sick.
Geoff 31:17
“Can confirm this is true. Let’s just say I really really like the cinnamon flavour. Not fun”. This is strange. This is, “dumb things I’ve done lately” is this blog. Ooh, 2020 is the last one they did. What else did they do?
Georgie 31:35
Oh, no. No, oh no, oh my god, there’s an injury, I don’t want to look at it. Looks like he maybe tried to climb something and then hurt his finger.
Geoff 31:44
Yeah. So yeah, man, Eclipse mints. Wait. “How many Tic Tacs can you eat before having a laxative effect?” Is this a contest? “It never happened to some abuses even after consuming hundreds. Its onset is unpredictable, and dramatic in others, once it hits by all accounts, it’s a nasty, painful ordeal”.
Georgie 32:07
Someone said I can only eat five or six individual pieces before—
Geoff 32:10
Wow.
Georgie 32:11
Quite surprising actually.
Geoff 32:13
It’s quite severe.
Georgie 32:14
So like to like more to the point I don’t think I’ve ever sort of experienced having a laxative effect—
Geoff 32:21
Neither have I.
Georgie 32:21
From too much, too many mints or gum or that kind of thing. Like honestly, maybe, like gassed me up a bit. Because I don’t know. I tend to I tend to notice, I do notice when I might have eaten something that might have like gassed me up or you know when you eat spicy food and you’re like, oh, no. Need to poop.
Geoff 32:40
Yeah, yeah. Oh, speaking of spicy food. The there’s a burger at Maccas, or McDonald’s for some people, called the McSpicy.
Georgie 32:51
Yeah, I’ve heard of it.
Geoff 32:53
And, but when I bit into it, it is a lot hotter than you would expect something from Maccas to come out with. Like, it’s—
Georgie 33:03
Especially considering you’re Asian.
Geoff 33:05
Well. I mean, just because I’m Asian doesn’t mean I eat spicy food.
Georgie 33:09
But do you like? (laughs)
Geoff 33:11
Eh, spicy food’s okay, I like hot pot and stuff like that. But the thing is, is it’s like not a chilli spice. Not quite a peppery spice, can’t quite figure it, I think it’s more chilli spice. But like the intensity is quite fast. It’s not like you ate something and go “huh, this is kind of spicy”. Right? This is you eat it and your mouth, like lights a little fire. And you’re just like—
Georgie 33:40
Hey, so I had—
Geoff 33:40
This is not what I expected from Maccas.
Georgie 33:42
I had something similar from this place called Ramen Dragon in Mascot.
Geoff 33:46
I’ve heard of this place, yeah.
Georgie 33:48
Yeah, I decided to just try, I think it was like their Hot Hot, it was called like Hot Hot, it had the word “hot” at least once. Hot Hot Ramen. And it had this same kind of spice. Like he wasn’t like, “Oh, I’m eating chilli. Oh, it’s hot”. And then you can kind of maybe eat a bit more before you start to sweat, whatever. It wasn’t like that. It was like you touch it and it just feels hot. You’re like, “Oh, that was not what I expected”. And like I like generally like spicy food. But it was spicy in a way that I just couldn’t quite... Maybe I had, hadn’t been exposed to this kind of spice.
Geoff 34:23
Yeah.
Georgie 34:23
Before.
Geoff 34:24
It’s the kind of spice that distracts you from the flavour of the thing that you’re eating.
Georgie 34:29
Well, actually, this one didn’t because it kind of did have its flavour.
Geoff 34:32
Oh that’s cool. But the spicy—
Georgie 34:34
No you’re saying—
Geoff 34:34
The McSpicy one was like you bid into it and the immediate thing you think is “oh my god, this is spicy”. And then you kind of—
Georgie 34:41
So it’s the sensation?
Geoff 34:42
Yeah, you can’t quite taste the chicken anymore. So the more you bite, it doesn’t make you want to go in for more. It makes you want to like—
Georgie 34:51
Okay, that’s yeah, that’s the I don’t like that kind of spice. I like the spice that adds flavour.
Geoff 34:57
Yeah, yeah same.
Georgie 34:58
Yeah.
Geoff 34:58
Like, we went to, I don’t know if I talked about this before, we’re having wings. We split 50 wings between three people.
Georgie 35:08
That’s a lot of wings but OK.
Geoff 35:09
Like it’s an average 16 wings per person. And you got to do different sauce every every 10 wings. So you had five different sauce wings. And we picked something that was supposed to be like, for three or four chilli, but it was like nothing so we’re just like um. I think they have broken their chilli scale. But it’s pretty good wings. I had a every time I watch First We Feast, Hot Ones?
Georgie 35:40
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 35:41
I feel like going get buffalo wings, just having some buffalo wings.
Georgie 35:47
Yeah, but yeah, this Ramen Dragon place, the the chilli was so good, like that I did want to eat more of the ramen, obviously. But it wasn’t like but it was so hot. It was kind of borderline like, oh, this is so hot. And, but I want to eat it like it’s good, do you know what—
Geoff 36:07
Yeah.
Georgie 36:07
So it’s not as bad as like, oh, the McSpicy.
Geoff 36:12
Like there’s, where I live, is a bunch of hot pots. So let me just zoom in on... where is this, hot pot place next door that I cannot get a pin on at the moment. I cannot remember what it’s called. It’s called like Fire Dragon or something like that. Watch me search...
Georgie 36:32
You’re searching hot pot in a place where there’s so much hot pot.
Geoff 36:36
Yeah, watch me search hotpot and just watch the whole place light up. It’s called the Great Dragon Hotpot. And my god, if you have photos of any of these places, take a look at the photos with this. It’s super traditional looking. It’s pretty cool. It’s got wooden beams and stuff like that. This is really weird. This is a doll dressed in a—
Georgie 36:58
What the fuck?
Geoff 36:58
It’s a doll that has a meat dress, essentially. And they serve it to you like this. I don’t frickin know why.
Georgie 37:07
That’s so random.
Geoff 37:08
But, man, where is it? Where is it? I took a photo of this. But I can’t necessarily sift through all my photos to find it. But the hot pot there is ridiculously spicy. The red is very indicative of how spicy this is.
Georgie 37:26
Just pour it on my leg.
Geoff 37:28
So the, I mean, this is your true laxative right here. Where is it? But before it gets to like the soupy thing they, they, it’s basically a mound of spices before they pour the soup on. And man does it, does it look scary to drink. And it was oh, it was like borderline bearable in terms of spice. But you have to have at least like a medium to high spice tolerance to even approach this. And if you don’t go for spicy hot pot, then there’s no point, so.
Georgie 38:12
You know the levels of spice?
Geoff 38:15
Oh, the Scoville.
Georgie 38:15
Different pla—well, yeah, there’s that which is official. So that makes sense. But you know, when a restaurant just goes oh yeah you can pick a level of spice. I’m like, this is subjective. Right? What should What do you recommend? Like, I don’t know, do I start with like, it depends on the scale. Like there’s a ramen place near me that has 0, 1 ,2 3 and they asked me what spice I wanted for the ramen. I’m thinking okay, so I can I can handle spice—
Geoff 38:43
Yeah.
Georgie 38:43
Pretty well, I think. And, but I said one because like, I don’t know, right? I said one because that particular day, I wasn’t feeling like something very spicy. But when I had the ramen, it was kind of spicy, like, hotter than I expected. But yeah, it’s, it’s hot. It’s weird. Um, and this other time? Maybe about 10 years ago, quite a long time ago. I went with some colleagues to—I don’t even know where this place was in the city somewhere. But they had noodles that had an infamous scale for the, for the spice.
Geoff 39:21
Yeah.
Georgie 39:22
And it was weird. Like, you could only pick 0, 1, 3, 7, 9.
Geoff 39:28
What are they doing? Like a? What’s that? What’s that scale called?
Georgie 39:34
Like an odd number thing?
Geoff 39:36
0, 1, 3? No, no, it’s that one where you add the previous numbers together? One?
Georgie 39:41
Fibonacci? Yeah, no, it’s not even that. So because I thought I could handle some fucking spice. I went with 3 which is what my friend who invited us to this restaurant picked, and I thought yeah, seems reasonable, because I’m kind of aware of his level of spices that yeah, he’s a 3, yeah you could probably do 3. I think Nick did like 1. And my friend was saying, if you get 9 it is like the chili is so dark, it looks almost like black or something. Anyway, I have it and I’m freaking struggling! Like I’m struggling, it is burning my face off. It was only only quote unquote, a level 3. But for me as someone who’s used to spice it just burned my face off. So I was like what? Like if this is 3?
Geoff 40:26
Yeah.
Georgie 40:26
What is 5? What even like, let alone 9, like what the hell? So I find those scales to be subjective, maybe the Scoville one—like I’m not familiar with what I can handle on Scoville scale, but.
Geoff 40:40
I think, yeah, this, I do a Nando’s scale. Like, I go around, I’m like, alright, if I ask somebody how spicy this is, and they’re like, oh, it’s alright. I’m like, okay, so what on the Nando’s scale is this would be this.
Georgie 40:56
Yeah.
Geoff 40:56
Nando’s I think has had probably the most consistent spicy levels. If you go there, and you ask for, I can’t remember what the spice levels are now, because I haven’t had Nando’s in a while but yeah—
Georgie 41:06
Yeah, me neither.
Geoff 41:07
You go there for a mid and you’re like okay, this is pretty good. And if someone goes there, else goes there for a mid and they know how much, how spicy that is. One place that has been the most inconsistent place of all is Belle’s Hot Chicken, but is it called Belle’s Hot Chicken?
Georgie 41:24
Yeah, I think you told me about this.
Geoff 41:25
Yeah, Belle’s Hot Chicken. Now they have a scale: chicken salt, original, traveller, hot, really hot, really fucking hot. Now these aren’t actually the original ones these are this is a new scale. Oh, is this America? Occasions... no no, it’s Australia.
Georgie 41:45
No.
Geoff 41:45
Anyways, so back back back when they first opened up I was like right so they have a they used to have a medium, and a hot, really hot, really fucking out so they don’t have the medium anymore it seems. Maybe that’s original? But I used to go, right, so medium is really good, hits the spot, hot, I cannot handle hot. Then they, then I came back like a couple weeks later or like a month later and I tried medium again and it was hot. Like they had changed, they swapped it, they swapped medium to hot, and then I came back later, had a medium, had zero spice in it. So they had zero spice, and hot. I’m like what? What the F, right?
Georgie 42:31
So they only had two? But at some point.
Geoff 42:34
At some point—
Georgie 42:35
They changed it?
Geoff 42:35
They changed it so you could do just hot, really hot, really fucking hot. They like basically removed the medium part of it. Then like next month I digress, all right, so I go and have the medium again and it’s still really, it’s still hot and then I went and got the hot, one time and then it was the hot was not so hot, it became medium. What the, I can’t eat there anymore. I just don’t know what the spice level is going to be like and if—
Georgie 43:05
Wait, are you sure it wasn’t hot, and then medium hot, which is actually higher than hot, maybe?
Geoff 43:11
Hot, medium hot.
Georgie 43:13
Is that how it works?
Geoff 43:13
Yeah, they’re like, sh... I don’t know, they just shifting the scale on me every so often. I just couldn’t eat there anymore.
Georgie 43:19
If they keep changing the scale then how the f... How can you even like trust that?
Geoff 43:25
Yeah, now I just go for the spicy chicken sandwich which is oh—oh!
Georgie 43:30
Is that consistent?
Geoff 43:31
I think so. But I’ve only had it maybe once or twice... but now not now that I read this is the traveller spice, whatever the hell that means. So maybe that’s the spice level for me because that’s actually reasonable, the traveller spice is their medium I guess, and now they’ve hot? Medium? I don’t know. Just...
Georgie 43:52
I think the fact that they have this like six levels of heat there I think the fact that there’s so many just makes it maybe more room for error?
Geoff 44:01
Chicken salt’s not really hot?
Georgie 44:04
But like, you know what I mean? If you have lots of levels it’s like how can you really gauge, right? Like, like, I am (laughs) I’m not like semi awesome, I’m either awesome or I’m not, and I’m awesome, so you know.
Geoff 44:19
Yeah, is it hot or not? But at least they don’t make you sign a waiver before you eat here, you know?
Georgie 44:27
What, laxative effect? Hot, really really fucking hot wings?
Geoff 44:31
Really fucking hot, there are places where they do wings that are so hot that they make you sign a waiver, I don’t know if it’s for show for real but basically you can’t—like it has California Reapers or like ghost pepper chillies inside the wings sauce. So it’s so hot that like you could probably sue them if you like died from it or something, or had a laxative effect. So.
Georgie 44:54
Ooh, I mean, yeah, that’s probably a good idea to do that anyway, because you know, there’s some of those food eating contests have had like, yeah, shocking endings.
Geoff 45:04
You know what’s another shocking ending? This podcast! So you can follow us on @toastroastpod on In... No, no, no, maybe not, just Twitter.
Georgie 45:15
Maybe, we’ll see.
Geoff 45:17
Just Twitter for now.
Georgie 45:18
And you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big fucking hot chicken wing.
Geoff 45:28
Yeah, like a good chicken wing.
Georgie 45:31
Yeah, just yeah.
Geoff 45:33
Just not the laxative ones.
Georgie 45:35
I was gonna, I was gonna say just have it with your WeetBix.
Geoff 45:39
Might bring the Health Star Rating down. Don’t forget we have episodes every Monday. So see you next week.
Georgie 45:46
See you next week. Bye.