We can't emphasise how much we dislike going to clubs and participating in pointless social holidays like April fools and Halloween.
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We can't emphasise how much we dislike going to clubs and participating in pointless social holidays.
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Georgie:
Geoff:
Geoff 0:02
Welcome back, du du du du, to Toast and Roast. Your co host Geoff, myself is Geoff, and Georgie, the other person.
Georgie 0:18
I’m pretty sure that jingle was like, du du du du or something?
Geoff 0:23
Yeah du du du, du du.
Georgie 0:27
How’s the toaster sound?
Geoff 0:28
Elmo’s world. Elmo, god. Oh Elmo honestly annoys the shit out of me. Was Elmo voiced by a female as well? I feel like that was a thing.
Georgie 0:45
I’m not sure but...
Geoff 0:45
Elmo voice...
Georgie 0:46
But wasn’t there... Oh, what I remember Elmo is,when I was in high school. There was this thing called, you know the Tickle Me Elmo toy or something?
Geoff 0:58
Ah, that was the worst. Yes.
Georgie 1:01
But someone had modified it to be Tickle Me Emo.
Geoff 1:08
Oh no.
Georgie 1:08
And it had, this is not gonna go well, I’ll describe it briefly but it was it was the toy with all the hallmarks of, you know, emo kid culture. I don’t love this because it’s a bit, I would say it’s a bit insensitive and triggering for some people. But it kind of had that whole like slitting wrist thing, it was it was ridiculous. I don’t even remember it being, if I think about it, I don’t actually think it would be funny if I looked back. I don’t think it would have aged well. It was just funny at the time, you’re a teenager and yeah.
Geoff 1:50
Tickle Me Emo, Elmo’s cousin, now available at Toys R Us. Wow, emo kid. Yeah. I don’t know about the, yeah, making Sesame Street that relevant. But it is voiced by a male.
Georgie 2:14
I don’t even know if I remember what the voices were actually like.
Geoff 2:18
I think that’s a good thing. Yeah, I think not remembering tickle, no Tickle Me, Elmo’s voice, because it’s like, they came out with the songs like “nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, Elmo’s World“. Oh, my God. And for some reason, it wasn’t even when Elmo like, Elmo suddenly got popular at some stage right? There was an era of Elmo like spinoff after the –
Georgie 2:45
Of Sesame Street characters?
Geoff 2:48
Nah just like, after the Big Bird like, after one –
Georgie 2:51
Big Bird?
Geoff 2:52
Was Big Bird. Yeah, ever. For some reason, Elmo became like super popular. That’s why Tickle Me Elmo and stuff came out at that time, because Elmo just became like super popular. No idea, “Elmo popular”. Strange, but I didn’t even I didn’t even watch that much Sesame Street when growing up, I think. I think I maybe watched one or two episodes. I think Barney was more, more my speed.
Georgie 3:21
Barney the, the purple, the purple dinosaur. Yeah.
Geoff 3:25
Yeah, Barney the purple dinosaur.
Georgie 3:28
Yeah, I don’t, I don’t think I watched too much Sesame Street. I feel like that was more of my younger brother’s sort of kids entertainment. I remember what you’re watching a lot of ABC Kids. Do you remember Gumby?
Geoff 3:45
Yeah, I do remember Gumby but I never really watched Gumby. Just knew of him. Man. Yeah, ABC Kids. What’s in the box? Famous Australian, “what’s in the box? In the box? What’s in the box today?”
Georgie 4:04
Wait, no, I remember the song. I just don’t remember what the show at all was like.
Geoff 4:10
I used to parody it. And I’d be like, “nothing is in the box. So what do you say? Let’s all go home today”. Oh, this is also it’s also a reference to a horror movie.
Georgie 4:24
Oh, God.
Geoff 4:26
Apparently like yelling at each other. “What’s in the box? What’s in the box?”
Georgie 4:31
What is that movie?
Geoff 4:32
Apparently from Se7en, Se7en. Apparently.
Georgie 4:34
Oh, okay. So I haven’t seen that movie. But I did hear someone I think someone reviewed that scene and said it was done very well or something or...
Geoff 4:44
Really? I haven’t watched the movie either.
Georgie 4:47
Okay. Yeah. Well.
Geoff 4:49
I only only got the reference from I think The Office. They started just yelling, “what’s in the box? I don’t know. What’s in the box?” And like that’s it.
Georgie 5:04
Is there a head? Isn’t there a head in the box in the Se7en movie?
Geoff 5:08
Yeah, yeah, there’s a video. There’s a picture of a severed head.
Georgie 5:11
Oh, God, no. Yeah, no thanks.
Geoff 5:15
Oh, I was watching this random YouTube video, I think... Do you know Jonathan Ross?
Georgie 5:22
The name sounds familiar?
Geoff 5:24
Yeah, he’s a British comedian, I think. Anyways, he’s got his own talk show. And it’s kind of like Graham Norton. But slightly worse. Anyways, like, so like –
Georgie 5:36
Worst like how, as in shitty or offensive? Or something.
Geoff 5:41
Worse, worse as in shitty, I think because so Graham Norton’s whole thing is that he’s like, the show host. And he’s got maybe like, five or six guests.
Georgie 5:51
Yeah
Geoff 5:51
Right. And they, they all kind of vibe off each other. It’s this kind of fun group activity. But Jonathan Ross, for some reason, they decided to split the guests into two sofas, like –
Georgie 6:03
Okay.
Geoff 6:03
Like, purposely not perpendicular, parallel, sir sofas, and he’s sitting in the middle. So he’s always like, talking to one side of the room and then the other side, and I’m like, why you do this to yourself? It’s, it’s just terrible. Anyways, Kit Harrington from Game of Thrones was on this particular episode with Jonathan Ross. And they were talking about April Fool’s Day. And I don’t know if you know, but he is either going out or married to one of the co stars of Game of Thrones. I’m pretty sure you you haven’t watched Game of Thrones have you?
Georgie 6:39
Nah nah.
Geoff 6:40
Yeah. So anyways, so on a, on the, on April Fool’s Day. His dear girlfriend or wife is going to the fridge. She opens it. And she brings out the Brita bottle or, Brita, Brita jug, and she just loses it. She’s like, “Oh my God, holy shit”. And then she like staggers to the counter, puts the Brita filter down. And then she collapses on the floor, crying like crying and like, in tears. Apparent—so what he did was he put a severed head.
Georgie 7:16
Oh.
Geoff 7:16
Very realistic, in the fridge. She was absolutely shocked.
Georgie 7:24
Was it just, he just like, it was like a prank head?
Geoff 7:28
Yeah, it was a prank head. “Kit Harrington prank head”. Like it. There it is. There it is. I think it’s his, is it his head? Yeah, yeah. It’s just like on a platter.
Georgie 7:42
Holy... What a horrible, horrible joke
Geoff 7:46
Yeah. And then you can you can see this is what she looked like before on the right. And then like, this is her like collapsing on the floor.
Georgie 7:53
So he filmed it in like a hidden camera or something.
Geoff 7:58
Yeah, I don’t know. I, yeah, it feels like he filmed. Yeah, he was standing there with a camera or something like that. But yeah. This is, yeah. So that’s what was that was the fridge.
Georgie 8:13
Holy shit.
Geoff 8:15
It’s pretty horrifying.
Georgie 8:16
I would hate if somebody pulled that prank on me. Especially like my partner or whatever, you know, fucking hell.
Geoff 8:25
Yeah. And the thing is, his family apparently does a lot of April Fool’s stuff, but his partner’s family doesn’t. And he only found out after he did this. He was like, “Oh, your family doesn’t do April Fool’s. Shiiee, my bad”. So, so it’s like super awkward because he’s off the side going, “April Fool’s, I think...?” She’s, but she’s not a joke. She didn’t like find it funny, obviously.
Georgie 8:56
Yeah, right.
Geoff 9:00
But these days...
Georgie 9:01
Is it American? Do you think it’s more of an American thing to have such in depth pranks? I guess you could say.
Geoff 9:10
I think so. I don’t know. Like, trick or treat also used to be pretty serious. I think back in the day in America, where they actually trick you if you ask for a trick, like, I don’t know party popper in your face or something. But I don’t think anyone... I’ve never, I’ve never I haven’t heard of anyone recently doing anything like serious on like, that day anymore. What is the origin of April Fool’s Day?
Georgie 9:35
So Halloween though? Why do we do, Australia hasn’t, it hasn’t hasn’t always been a big deal. I feel like it only has been a big deal in the past like 10 years because like in my first like 20 years of growing up it was just like, “oh, yeah, what are you doing?” “Oh, no one does anything on Halloween”. But now it’s like younger kids are like getting like candy and stuff.
Geoff 9:55
Yeah, it’s super interesting actually. So as as kids, we were growing up in like different parts of Southeast Asia. And it was really interesting because I have just a really tiny memory of one April Fool’s in Hong Kong. And we’re living in like a high rise apartment type thing, right? And we would actually be able to go from door to door, in, down the apartment building and do Chica tree in the possibility. So I was telling my family I’m like, man, it’s not like not like the old days, I can’t actually access any other floor, my building to go trick or treating, you have to have access cards to go from floor to floor. So even though they were saying that in Perth, they got little mailers and you can it’s a little sign to put on your door to say whether or not you do April Fools.
Georgie 10:50
Like a consent sign.
Geoff 10:53
Yeah, it’s a consent sign. But I was like, I was thinking that April Fool’s wasn’t like such a big deal anymore. But apparently it’s actually becoming a bigger deal. They’re having outdoor events like, like, kind of like Christmas, but for Halloween, like, community Halloween events. I’m like, oh my god. Can we can we get can we get past Halloween? It’s such a weird thing.
Georgie 11:21
I don’t love the Halloween thing. I don’t I don’t really understand it. And I don’t even necessarily find it that fun.
Geoff 11:28
Yes, so have you have you gone Halloween like trick or treating before haven’t you?
Georgie 11:32
Nah never.
Geoff 11:34
Really?
Georgie 11:35
Yeah, I’ve heard of other people’s like, kids. And as I’ve gotten older, I’ve seen that younger kids do it. But but it’s not such a it’s such a thing here. So and I’ve never. And the whole, you know, going to strangers houses kind of shit. No, thanks. Like I’ve only like—
Geoff 11:53
That’s what trips me.
Georgie 11:54
Yeah, the fact that you are going to strangers houses and asking them for candy.
Geoff 12:02
The rhetoric. Yeah, the rhetoric is like, don’t take candy from strangers. Because they’re gonna kidnap you. And don’t don’t talk to strangers because they’re gonna kidnap you.
Georgie 12:16
I know.
Geoff 12:17
And then we have this holiday.
Georgie 12:19
Did anyone learn anything from “Hey Georgie, want a balloon?”
Geoff 12:24
"Want a balloon?” Oh, yeah. So So I think Halloween is a bit of a strange one where it’s just sort of like you throw all the rules out. And you tell kids that dressing up and going to strangers houses, like in groups, but still maybe with or without, like, adult supervision to pick up candy from, from strangers.
Georgie 12:45
I think this should be like a parental supervision thing. Like, I don’t know, I think I think maybe it should move away from like, I don’t know what it’s like now either. But I think it should move away from scaring people and taking candy from strangers to more of a thing where, alright you can dress up as like skeletons and things. And nice people in your neighborhood can leave candy for you. And that’s just that’s probably just what it should be right? Like, pretty safe shit. And I don’t care. I don’t know. Like, I don’t care enough about it to have a huge opinion on it. Sadly.
Geoff 13:27
It’s it’s like I think they just shifted to the spiritual stuff because that’s what how All Hallows Eve is about. I think it’s like on a winter solstice or something when it’s like the spirits can passover or something like that. Or am I just quoting the Mexican holiday?
Georgie 13:47
The Day of the Dead?
Geoff 13:48
The Day of the Dead. Yeah. Anyways, but I mean, there’s all this spiritual stuff around it. I don’t know why it turned into grabbing candy from strangers, because maybe somehow the kidnappers of the world have somehow co opted a perfect holiday for them to just take children off the streets.
Georgie 14:09
That’s just freaking creepy.
Geoff 14:11
Yeah. So April Fool’s Day. The day is not a public holiday in any country except Odessa, Ukraine, where the first of April is an official city holiday. That’s concerning?
Georgie 14:25
Is that a coincidence or is that actually because it’s April Fool’s though.
Geoff 14:30
Oh, maybe someone wrote this as an April Fool’s joke.
Georgie 14:32
Oh, shit.
Geoff 14:34
Yeah. “The custom of setting aside a day for playing harmless pranks upon one’s neighbour has is has been relatively common in the world historically”. But why?
Georgie 14:43
Where is the origin then?
Geoff 14:44
Why would you do that?
Georgie 14:46
Oh, right. There’s that whole—
Geoff 14:48
‘“Nun’s Priest’s Tale”, a vain cock Chauntecleer is tricked by a fox on “Syn March bigan thritty dayes and two”’... Oh, interesting. So it’s like some kind of folktale.
Georgie 15:03
Mmhm.
Geoff 15:04
Yeah. Someone wrote it in a book some dude named Geoffrey Chau-ker? Chau-ser? A poet. Chau-ser. Thank you. Thank you Wikipedia for not actually pronouncing the word for us. But yeah, so some random poet wrote some tales.
Georgie 15:27
And I guess it made its way through time.
Geoff 15:31
Made its way through time.
Georgie 15:35
Sometimes, you know I find this kind of history quite boring. Like it’s not it’s not that simplistic. It’s like, oh, some weird shit happened and then eventually transformed into oh, let’s play a trick on people. There’s some history that’s a lot simpler, where it was like, oh, this guy did something. And then he just decided it was gonna be a thing.
Geoff 15:54
Valentine’s Day right? Valentine’s Day.
Georgie 15:59
Isn’t that, didn’t St Valentine die on that day? And then that’s what the heck it was about?
Geoff 16:05
No, he was marrying—oh on that specific day? Yeah. I never knew what the actual day was about.
Georgie 16:10
Oh have you actually ever played an April Fool’s prank on somebody, though?
Geoff 16:15
Oh, no, I don’t think. I don’t think I’ve ever played a prank on somebody. I think the most I’ve done is like, tried to trick my friends into thinking that I got married to my best friend.
Georgie 16:34
Oh, yeah. I vaguely remember you mentioning this.
Geoff 16:40
Yeah, yeah, that’s as far as I got. I was just like, yeah, people would probably believe this, but also not believe it simultaneously.
Georgie 16:48
Yeah it raises enough questions.
Geoff 16:50
The reaction was, yeah, it’s just like, it’s what everybody wanted to happen. So I was like, alright, let’s see what happens if I actually tell people that we’re together. I don’t remember the reaction. I think it was pretty lackluster. Oh, I think it was literally just also switching my Facebook like for like status, relationship status, to “In a couple”. Yeah. Just to troll people. But have you have you played a fool’s? April Fool’s joke?
Georgie 17:23
I did one I think might have been last year or the year before. But—
Geoff 17:28
Recently?
Georgie 17:28
Yeah, yeah, it was it was it was. I’ll tell you one that someone played on me first, which isn’t that interesting. And then I’ll tell you that story.
Geoff 17:37
Why are you telling me a story that’s not that interesting.
Georgie 17:40
Well, I just want to tell you how someone pranked me, it was my mum. And it was just it was really silly. It was probably the only time someone genuinely pranked me and I wasn’t just like, um, it’s April first. So my mum fooled me for like a split second. And I was hanging out the laundry outside like when I was still living with her and I was in school, whatever. Think it might have been either, I might have been in like, year 12, like last year school, first year of uni or something. But she knew I had a crush on this guy. Like when I was when I first started high school. And then I was friends with this guy. And then we just stopped being friends because he was oh, he was in–incidentally, coincidentally, rude to me on Valentine’s Day. But anyway, my, my mum was like, hey, you know your friend, this guy named—I’m just gonna say Andrew, for the sake of whatever. It’s not his real name. I was like, hey, you know, Andrew, that your friend? I’m like, he’s not my friend anymore. Whatever. I’m almost like he died. I’m like, “What do you mean?”
Geoff 18:46
Holy shit.
Georgie 18:48
How do you know? She was like, “Yeah, it was on the news”. And I was like oh shit... heheh April Fool’s, and I was like, fucking hell mum. And I was like by the way I don’t like that guy anymore.
Geoff 19:01
Yeah. Oh my god. That’s a that’s a that’s like really simple like joke to do. You just like, “they died”.
Georgie 19:11
Yeah, I mean, like, I don’t love jokes about death in general, because like, what if it’s real right? But it was just funny because I did not ever once, for once think that my mum would would get me even for like a split second.
Geoff 19:24
Yeah, yeah. So So what was the prank you played?
Georgie 19:27
Okay, so we have a design system at work right? And I think it might – yeah I can’t remember if it was last, yeah it might have been last year. Last year, I thought I would create a fake dark mode, because we don’t have a dark mode for it. Um. So I thought I’m gonna I’m gonna do something else though. And what I did was I just put like, put like a CSS flag on it, whatever with a toggle and shit. And I’m trying to remember how I did it. But it wasn’t, it wasn’t a dark mode it was I changed all the fonts to Comic Sans MS.
Geoff 20:07
Ah nice!
Georgie 20:08
And then I changed a couple of things to make them move and blink across the screen, I made the colors like ridiculous. And then I put the checkbox to toggle in the corner. Oh, I think another thing. I think, though, that there was a hamburger menu in this particular version of our design system. And so I made it so that when you opened the—ah was it when you closed or open the menu? I think either when you closed or opened the menu, you couldn’t see it until you interacted with it. But there would be a giant hamburger emoji when you tried to check it out. And I posted it in one of the Slack channels. And I was like, “Hey, we’ve just released a dark mode for our design system, feel free to check it out”. I was like, just click the click the toggle in the corner. And the funny thing is, I think some people just you know, the it’s like a psychological thing. You react to the message before you’ve properly read it, or you skim it. And then some people had responded with like the dark moon emoji and shit, and I’m like, has someone, has anyone actually, like opened it up, and had a look and found out this was a joke? That was fun.
Geoff 21:15
Yeah, so what happened when someone did?
Georgie 21:17
I think I actually had to reveal it because I don’t think anyone actually looked. But um—
Geoff 21:21
Rude!
Georgie 21:21
I told, I told my team. I was doing it for like half a day. It was fun, though. But I think I had to, like get rid of it. But it’s in the commit history somewhere. Anyway, it was fun for me to do, and it, it was fucking nerdy as shit. So.
Geoff 21:38
I did I did something similar with the Konami code.
Georgie 21:42
Oh, yes.
Geoff 21:42
For those who don’t know what the Konami code is. It’s basically the arrow keys up, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A. The combination is of from from its namesake, Konami, I believe they put it in their, like some of their games as a shortcut to from from console gaming. But I, I basically found a JavaScript like module online. It’s basically Konami code from NPM. And I was like, cool. So I got some people in on the, on this over when I was doing AMP’s first website. And everyone’s like, yeah, man, it would be really cool if we got like, some did something to the website with the Konami code. And at the time, we were when we were testing the website before went live, people were using Grumpy Cat as the example like display images to test the website when publishing. We had Grumpy Cat all over the website. So what I did was I took like, a little a little, I think, a cut out of Grumpy Cat. And when you did the Konami code, it would like pop up from the bottom left, and you know, like, run along the bottom of the of this screen. And then, um, and I think it turned all of the images to Grumpy Cat on the website. And, like, the the guys, I was showing this to, they’re like, “um, so I think the legal team said that we can’t use Grumpy Cat because it’s copyrights somehow to Grumpy Cat”. So I’m one of the one of the other engineers or BAs or whatever, they animated the AMP logo, if you’ve ever seen the AMP logo.
Georgie 23:31
I can’t remember what it looked like.
Geoff 23:33
Yeah. I mean, it’s not like a service everyone uses. AMP that gets a spark.
Georgie 23:42
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 23:42
It gets a bit of a spark. So they, they animated this. And basically, after you do the Konami code, it will replace the static image with a GIF of it animating, and I thought that was pretty that was pretty, like, innocuous and—
Georgie 23:56
Easter egg.
Geoff 23:57
And pretty, yeah, Easter eggy. So I was pretty, I was pretty happy with that. And we got it into production. At the time, I was the only engineer so really, just like client’s said, okay, and I just merged it in here.
Georgie 24:14
Is it still there now?
Geoff 24:17
No, they rebuilt it. These people apparently rebuild their websites every five years. And I’m like, No, my hard work. I think I have to remove it from my resume now, no longer, no longer mine.
Georgie 24:32
You know what I had to remove from mine?
Geoff 24:36
No?
Georgie 24:36
Transport New South Wales. I did the OG. Yeah.
Geoff 24:40
The OG.
Georgie 24:42
The OG it was on what it’s doing now. It was on like Jekyll and stuff. And yeah, when I worked at an agency, we worked with another company who did like kind of the design and branding and stuff. And we did like all the coding. So yeah, when they changed it, I was a bit bummed because we put in all this thought like accessibility and stuff. And yeah, now I can’t really say I built the current version, whatever. Whoa, is fairy bread the Google Doodle for today?
Geoff 25:17
Yeah, celebrating fairy bread today everybody.
Georgie 25:20
We shat on that in a previous episode.
Geoff 25:24
Oh my god, it’s just flying from this. Oh my god, it’s everywhere.
Georgie 25:28
Are you connecting with it Geoff? Are you connecting with the fairy bread?
Geoff 25:30
Oh, yeah, I’m connecting with the fairy bread flying across the screen. This represents my childhood in Australia.
Georgie 25:39
Does it though?
Geoff 25:41
It really, it really from the bottom of my heart. It embodies my whole Australian existence. Oh man I complained about fairy bread to to my partner and they were like, but it’s fairy bread. And I’m like, okay.
Georgie 25:59
Yeah, I mean, I think you can only complain about it for so long.
Geoff 26:01
It’s colourful.
Georgie 26:03
Before you’re like, “OK”.
Geoff 26:04
It’s colourful. It’s just colourful and fun okay, Be fun, Geoff. I can be fun. I’m, I’m the life of the party.
Georgie 26:04
Newsflash, you’re the only one at the party.
Geoff 26:21
Oh, that’s a real roast. I don’t know how I feel about that.
Georgie 26:26
You don’t know how to feel because it’s actually true.
Geoff 26:29
It’s true. Yeah. I have. It’s true. “You cut me real deep, Shrek, real deep”. The, yeah, I think every australia day kind of thing comes up with a fairy bread. But now that we’re all kind of going to the office again, I think there’s going to be a few more requests to go out and do stuff. We we had a team lunch, just as one of our co workers joined in the last two weeks.
Georgie 27:08
Yeah.
Geoff 27:09
So that was very good timing that our lockdown ended. And then we got to go to bar Luka and have a have a burger. But yeah. It’s actually it’s actually funny. Like, there have been a couple people who started during the pandemic and I hadn’t met them in person.
Georgie 27:25
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 27:29
And I have to check. I’m like, I haven’t met you. But yet have I?
Georgie 27:32
Yeah I’ve seen you, in the Zoom. Yeah, we had someone join us during the pandemic, but they also left us during the pandemic.
Geoff 27:41
Woah.
Georgie 27:41
And I still keep in touch with them. And they’re really cool. And, and he was like, oh, you want to—like, oh, maybe I initiated? I was like, Hey, we should like meet up sometime because I don’t think we’ve actually me in person. I was like, yeah.
Geoff 27:56
Meeting in person’s overrated.
Georgie 27:58
Yeah, right. actually, you know, what’s, what was kind of like, really bizarre is we had an we had an intern, auction, I did meet her. We had an intern. And it’s so funny, because she, her internship was during the pandemic, and then she left us all these gifts at the office. Like she gave one to everybody that she worked with. And she even wrote our names on the bags and stuff. It was so nice. And um—
Geoff 28:23
Those kind of people are too conscientious. And they’re too nice.
Georgie 28:27
Yeah, maybe? I mean—
Geoff 28:30
It’s, it’s nice. It’s really nice. But like, I would never think of doing something like that. So it’s like a reflection of myself for not being that nice.
Georgie 28:41
But the thing is, it wasn’t like too much or anything like that. She was like, oh, you know, I just want to say thanks for—she was like, so humble. Like, she generally was just very humble and very polite throughout her whole whole internship. And it was just such a nice gesture. Like, you know, when someone is, oh, you know when someone’s being too nice. And it’s suspicious.
Geoff 29:04
No?
Georgie 29:05
You don’t?
Geoff 29:06
I do kind of? Yeah, I know. I know the feeling.
Georgie 29:09
There are some people, and I, I don’t, like some of them. I don’t even know personally, but I know through someone else or something like that. And they’re just over friendly. And you generally have this feeling like you can’t trust them because it always feels like they don’t have another mood other than being extremely friendly and extremely happy. And I’m not saying oh, you’re sad person at home. I’m just saying I don’t know how to kind of be myself around you because you just seem like really on top of the world and over friendly. Like, I don’t—yeah. Nick has a co worker like this and he’s always making jokes, making fun like, you know, that’s all well and good, but it just doesn’t feel right. And I don’t even know this person personally.
Geoff 30:00
Yeah, yeah, it makes me feel uncomfortable. Maybe, maybe because I am like, the complete opposite. Like, some people are so extroverted, that they might just come off as super happy all the time, but I feel like I mean, I think I’m pretty cynical, but I feel like, like super happy people are just hiding something and just feel like, you’re you’re trying to make everyone think that, like, everything’s fine and dandy, it’s like, why? Why are you why are you trying to make everyone think that? Of course, you know, they might just be genuinely like, upbeat and like happy and it’s I’ve just grown lots and lots of cynicism. But I feel like yeah, you can’t connect with—I can’t connect with people who are who are overtly like that, because probably because I’m no nothing like that myself.
Georgie 30:55
Yeah.
Geoff 30:56
It’s just like people who go to clubbing and partying and stuff like that. It’s so outside the realm of what I enjoy doing that like I find it very strange. Have you tried going clubbing?
Georgie 31:10
Dude, I’ve never—people find this, I’ve never actually been clubbing ever. And I’ve said this to people.
Geoff 31:16
Yeah.
Georgie 31:16
And I’m like, yeah, like I went to concerts and stuff and whatever. I had gone to a couple of house parties, but I didn’t do that frequently. But some people like that’s kind of all they do as a social thing. Like they really like the loudness, the atmosphere. And that’s how they socialise. Like, they’ll never they’ll never go and do something like hang out in a park or something. It’s just always gotta be some loud venue.
Geoff 31:39
Well, the park is a bit dodge. But I get your point.
Georgie 31:43
I mean like having a picnic. That’s not, that’s not dodge in 2021 Geoff.
Geoff 31:50
Please have your picnics before sunset. I mean, it’s kind of cute and nice.
Georgie 31:54
Dude, you know, when I was in uni, I went on picnics and stuff. I hung out in the park with my friends. I did it before it was a cool thing.
Geoff 32:04
Is it cool? I don’t know.
Georgie 32:06
Nah, everyone just does it now because pandemic.
Geoff 32:09
Oh, it’s not cool in parking lots.
Georgie 32:12
Why would you?
Geoff 32:13
Yeah, don’t hang out in parking lots.
Georgie 32:14
Why would you have a picnic in a parking lot?
Geoff 32:17
I think some people have been doing that during lockdown. Having picnics in parking lots?
Georgie 32:20
Didn’t you tell me you ate in the back of the car?
Geoff 32:23
I ate in the back of my car. But I mean, I’m not in a, I’m not like hanging out in a parking lot outside of my car on the floor having a picnic.
Georgie 32:33
You’re hanging out on the floor of your car.
Geoff 32:35
Hanging out In the back of my car watching Netflix.
Georgie 32:39
Are you sure?
Geoff 32:40
So yeah.
Georgie 32:41
Were you doing something else in the back of the car?
Geoff 32:43
I think that was, I think that was—
Georgie 32:48
Is this podcast G rated. Wait, no we swear, this can’t be G rated.
Geoff 32:55
Yeah. Oh, wait. I was reading something about how... I saw a Reddit thread saying that in order for movies to keep their PG rating they have a limited amount of fucks to give. So you can only say fuck like five times.
Georgie 33:10
When you said “fucks”, I was like. do you mean like literal fucks? Like a kind of—
Geoff 33:15
They can have implied?
Georgie 33:17
Yeah, the implied like kind of sit on the bed.
Geoff 33:20
They just sort of like, yeah, putting on some pants. Or they’re like sitting next to each other and then they kiss and they just like fall off, fall out of frame.
Georgie 33:31
Yeah, or, they’re like, they’re sitting there, you can tell they’re not wearing anything under like, the blanket, and the blanket is like strategically placed over likes the nipples?
Geoff 33:41
Yeah. Yeah. Or they’re just lying there with the with the sheet up to their neck or something like yeah, that’s like, implied.
Georgie 33:51
So you mean literal, the word “fuck”?
Geoff 33:54
Yeah, the literal word “fuck”.
Georgie 33:56
Did you say PG?
Geoff 33:58
To keep it PG. To keep their PG rating, they’re only allowed to say “fuck”, like a limited amount of times. The Reddit thread said once but then people were debunking it saying “Oh, this movie is G—PG rated but they said ‘fuck’ multiple times”. Thanks, Reddit. What were we talking about? Uh, yeah, picnics.
Georgie 34:19
Dodgy parking lots.
Geoff 34:20
Hanging hanging out, hanging out in parking lots. Yeah, like hanging out at parks. Oh, yeah, clubbing, right. So, um, one of my friends. I don’t know how we became friends. But one of my friends invited me to their 22nd or 23rd birthday party. And the venue was a nightclub. I think it was The Ivy.
Georgie 34:47
Oh shit
Geoff 34:48
Or whatever. Right? Yeah. And I’m like look, I’ve been to a club before because when my sister turned 21 ages ago. quote unquote, ages ago. We went to we went to a club, and I kind of just sat there with my cousin. And then we just talked, but, this one—
Georgie 35:11
Did you struggle to talk to each other? Because it was fucking loud?
Geoff 35:15
Yeah, yeah. We’ll get to that in a second. But, so this club and you know, I was like, Okay, let’s give this a go. It can’t be that bad. So I got on the dance floor. And I danced with people—
Georgie 35:33
Strangers?
Geoff 35:33
For like—not srangers, some strangers, but some people part of the group but I don’t know.
Georgie 35:37
You mean just dancing around them, like not just...
Geoff 35:41
Dancing around them. None of that like new age, like grinding shit. Like I only just recently got comfortable hugging people, let alone grinding on them.
Georgie 35:57
Yeah.
Geoff 35:59
And, and I was like, Okay, let’s see. Let’s see how, how long I can do this for just like a stamina, stamina. This is me like.
Georgie 36:07
Introvert stamina.
Geoff 36:08
Thinking in my head. Yeah. So I’m doing this thing. And I’m like, it’s half an hour. And then I’m like, okay, I’m done. And then I sit back down next to my friend. And I was just like, so I think I lasted like maybe 15, 20 minutes. I looked at my watch. And they’re like, yeah, yeah. And then I don’t think we can even speak. And then I’m like, why I don’t, I don’t understand how people socialise with dancing in nightclubs, because I’m a talking social kind of person, right? So see, do you get to know these people? No. “What are you here for?” “Dancing”. “What?” “Dancing!” And you’re like, “That sucks”. Um, so yeah. So I stayed at that party for I think a total of maybe one and a half to two hours. I got hit on.
Georgie 37:04
Yeah.
Geoff 37:05
By a gay person.
Georgie 37:06
That’s so strange.
Geoff 37:11
Yeah.
Georgie 37:11
That’s a long time to have lasted when that’s not your scene.
Geoff 37:15
Sorry?
Georgie 37:16
Like an hour is, yeah.
Geoff 37:19
Yeah, we basically I basically said, burger. I have this international sign for a burger where I put my two hands together, an oval.
Georgie 37:27
I’m gonna get a burger?
Geoff 37:31
Like, this is my exit sign.
Georgie 37:32
Is this your bail sign.
Geoff 37:34
Yeah, my bail sign. Let’s just go get a burger.
Georgie 37:37
Man I need a bail sign.
Geoff 37:40
Yeah, yeah. The so. So I was sitting there. And I see you next to my my colleague and friend. And they swap seats with someone else. And this guy sits next to me.
Georgie 37:55
This guy who hit on you?
Geoff 37:56
And yeah, the guy who hit on me. And this guy was talking to my friend—appare—like, I found out later that he was trying to figure out what I was into. This is very loud, so you can’t hear shit. So he comes. He turns to me. He says, “Hey”, I’m like, “Hi”. He goes, “I was just talking to your friend”. I’m like, “Okay”. They said. They said, “I heard you’re a web developer”, I’m like, “Yep”. And they said, “I’m a web developer too”. I’m like, “Cool. What kind of stack are you into”?
Georgie 38:09
Shit.
Geoff 38:16
Like, “Are you more of a JavaScript developer? Like a front end developer?” And like, they had no fucking clue how to answer me. And I was like, oh, something’s up. So I just kept trying to ask him what type of developer he was, and have a conversation. Yeah. And then like, by like, I don’t know, two, three minutes. I don’t even know how long it was. But after all, that, I was just like, something’s wrong. Definitely doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Georgie 39:04
Yeah.
Geoff 39:05
And I was like, “Okay, bye”. So I bailed.
Georgie 39:09
Yeah.
Geoff 39:10
And later on, my friend was like, oh that guy was asking me about stuff. And I was like, oh, but he didn’t seem like he knew anything. And then they were like, yeah, he was trying to hit on you. I was like, what? People lie to hit on you. Like yes, because my friend’s a female. They’re like, happens all the time. And I’m like wow, that really sucks you know you’re trying to have a conversation but I don’t know shit because they’d lying about it.
Georgie 39:46
Oh you don’t know this Geoff because you don’t know what it’s like to be a woman. Women get it all the time.
Geoff 39:51
It’s like what, they pretend to be into the same things as you, that’s insane. And I was like yeah, that was the first time.
Georgie 40:02
Like it’s a total red flag, cuz, ah.
Geoff 40:06
I don’t know, I just, I was like, how long do they think they can keep it up? Years? Months, years? I mean, maybe they’re just trying to get a hookup like just to, you know, get enough.
Georgie 40:19
Yeah, maybe?
Geoff 40:20
Enough, close enough just to just hook up, but—
Georgie 40:23
maybe they just want to get your attention and they don’t know how else to you know, so they pretend they’re into the same things as you instead of asking you about yourself, so you can talk to them about it. And maybe they’d be interested in you and want to talk to you and stuff, it’s just, I don’t know.
Geoff 40:39
Exactly. Logically, it doesn’t, it doesn’t make logical sense. And so I was like, perplexed, I guess? No—I think I’ve only had one other person, like, hit on me. But I was like, so ready to bail on the party that I wasn’t interested in talking to anyone new. But yeah, that’s the problem I found at clubs, right? You’re at a club, you can’t hear shit. And maybe the culture is to simply pretend to like things. Because that’s like, the easiest way to yell over. You’re not like, “What are you into?” “Well, I’m into a lot of things. Board games, climbing, web...” It’s like, you can’t do that at a club. That’s like, it’s like a really long list of things. But yeah, it was very strange. Um, but I realised, yeah, like, I knew women got it. I knew women had that problem. But I had never had it done to me. Yeah. And I was just, like, perplexed at like, people actually doing it. And it’s really funny. So yeah, that’s the clubbing experience.
Georgie 41:53
You know, there was this one time, my friend like, it was it was after I was already dating Nick and my friend had told me about a disco. So like, I’m into like, 80s music disco music, right, like as in the genre.
Geoff 42:09
Did they call it a discotheque? One of my friends calls the clubs, discotheques.
Georgie 42:16
Well, maybe this is why this story is the way it’s going. But my friend said yeah, there’s a place that is like a disco. Every Saturday, it was first Saturday of every month or whatever it was. And then he shared the link with me. I said to Nick hey, let’s go to this thing. Right. And it just, we got there. And I was like, cool. I’ve never really been to a club. So I just get fucking dressed up the way that people do, you know, with fucking dress and high heels and shit. And it just was not at all what I expected. Because in my mind, I was thinking disco. When I was a kid and discos in school, they had like, a disco ball, you know? And, played some music and people dance. But in my mind I was thinking—
Geoff 43:01
Rollerskates.
Georgie 43:02
Of the disco music playing and like kind of, you know what you see in the 80s video clips and movies and stuff. Yeah, I was thinking disco genre because I wanted disco music. But we get there’s three—
Geoff 43:18
Is Thriller disco?
Georgie 43:20
I’m not sure if it is categorised as specifically a disco hit. I wouldn’t say it is. I think it’s like some kind of... actually could be? Could be a subgenre of disco. Anyway. There was three levels of this club in some hotel, whatever the heck. And this is what it was right, it was like it 80s disco, 90s disco, and then noughties, however it’s pronounced, disco. And then I you know what I realised is that this wasn’t the disco that I had in my mind. It was 80s disco as in like, chart hits from the 80s with some ball thing like lights and shit. And then you go to the next level, and it’s 90s chart toppers. Just playing like on loop or whatever.
Geoff 44:11
Yeah.
Georgie 44:11
With some dark whatever. And then there’s the noughties or whatever which didn’t have that many people cuz, cuz I mean, I don’t know. But it was just not what I was expecting. I was like, you know, I like all the 80s hits, but then I just, it just, not all of them were disco. You know what I mean?
Geoff 44:29
Yeah.
Georgie 44:29
It was weird. And I was like, oh, that was strangely disappointing. Like I wanted some fucking Wham! I wanted like, Donna Summer.
Geoff 44:41
Yeah, that’s also another thing right about clubs is that I can I’ve got fairly good audio equipment at home. I don’t need to be in a different location to listen to songs I like. But, but like later on, I kind of realised you know, being with other people who like the same music at you and enjoying yourself is somewhat of a social experience. But to me, I’m like, I got really good headphones. I’ve got my computer, just hit play. Boom. I got I got all the music I need. I don’t really need other people. Oh, so at that club, they actually had two ends of the club with two different sound—sound tracks going.
Georgie 45:26
What the.
Geoff 45:27
So they had the club at the—yeah, they had club music here. And I think they were playing 90s on the other side of the same room. So you could just walk across this room and then enter a different like, different club.
Georgie 45:42
Doesn’t the sound just like mix from the two?
Geoff 45:46
Yeah.
Georgie 45:47
Fuck.
Geoff 45:47
I don’t get it. I don’t Yeah, it really blew my mind.
Georgie 45:51
Worst. Worst experience.
Geoff 45:52
Yeah.
Georgie 45:53
I’m just hating.
Geoff 45:57
Yeah, yeah. So so yeah, I think. Yeah, if I like music, I just, just stay at home and listen to it on my own.
Georgie 46:05
I think it depends, club music is fundamentally different from like, because I’ve been to a lot of concerts for like mostly rock, and, I guess... rock? Rock and metal.
Geoff 46:17
Nu metal? Nu metal? Cuz Atreyu is technically nu metal.
Georgie 46:21
Oh my god. I love Atreyu.
Geoff 46:23
Yeah.
Georgie 46:24
Yeah. It’s different from a club. And another thing I realised is that I had been to the, have you been to the or heard of the Beresford, I think it’s in Surry Hills, or something, Darlinghurst? Whatever. The, somewhere, somewhere near, I think it’s I think it’s technically in Darlinghurst. So I’d seen some small Australian bands play there. And I guess I’d heard of the place. But before the first time I went there, I didn’t really realise that it was actually like a club. Like that bottom floor. I think it was I think they called it, the it’s in the Beresford Hotel. But I think it’s actually called the Beresford club. I’ve had some weird experiences at that place. This one time I went there, and the DJ—when I came in, it was only like six o’clock or something. The DJ started playing Daft Punk, Pharell, Get Lucky.
Geoff 47:30
Yeah.
Georgie 47:31
And then a couple hours later, after, like some in—the intro band, or whatever the supporting band had played, was a bit of a break before the next band came on. And then he started playing, Get Lucky again. And then I think for some reason, I think cuz I wanted to see this the main band, which I don’t even remember who it was now. I decided to stay for the whole night, which was it was probably like 11:30 or something by the time or like 12 when time shit started wrapping up. And everyone started coming in like because it basically turned from like a gig into like a club. So everyone started pouring in.
Geoff 48:12
Oh, God.
Georgie 48:13
And then the DJ starts playing Get Lucky again. And I was like, I need to leave. Like, I don’t know, what is what is it with you and, this song. And then another, and then like that same week I went to like Bondi, I think was Bondi Beach Road Hotel or something. There was nobody like there. Because I was I think I was early, and it was like, I think it was like a not very well known band was playing there. And the DJ played Get Lucky before the band came on.
Geoff 48:43
This is the same DJ, just doing the rounds, pressing play on his iPod.
Georgie 48:49
I took a video, I think this is when, I think this might have been when Snapchat was still around. Or at least—well I mean, actually, when it was new, and I was on it.
Geoff 48:59
Haha.
Georgie 48:59
Before there was Instagram stories and stuff and reels. And then I took the story and it was like, “every DJs favourite song” because it just was. It was the song of like, the moment but like, don’t get me wrong, I love Daft Punk, but fuck, man, that song was overplayed as shit.
Geoff 49:17
Yeah, yeah. The I think I usually I usually also get sick of anything that gets played more than once. I think the only exception was like Gangnam Style, where I was the one who was like way too into Gangnam Style. And I played it all the time. And I learned the dance and I did it at a wedding and it was just freaking hilarious. The problem was I was doing it at a, at a wedding where ha—where the groomsmen was part of a b boy like group and like basically all his friends were b boys as well. So they like took it up way, way too high. Started breaking, break dancing to go stuff. doing like, crazy shit to the song and I was like, alright, I’m tapping out this is that was my that was my trick. See you later, peace. But the, what was the, the thing about, I think I heard, have you heard of like the silent discos?
Georgie 50:20
Oh my god, yes, I was gonna bring that up as well. The first time I yeah, I was like, well I was dating this guy and it was like, he was like, hey, check out the silent disco. I was like what the f are you talking about, and he showed me and it was just, I just saw these people with headphones on and like, you know, and then I tried it for a bit and it was a little bit weird, I guess probably because I didn’t like the music that they were playing. But then I got my, I only started using noise cancelling headphones like in the past year. And like I like to make my own playlists sometimes. And then I was listening to one on my own with the noise cancelling headphones at home. And then I realised that it kind of emulated the feeling one probably gets when they enjoy a silent disco and I’m just dancing when no one else can hear what I’m listening to and it’s just like yeah.
Geoff 51:05
Yeah, I only started listening I using noise cancelling headphones in the past couple years as well. Because I thought it was like, a lot of noise cancelling headphones feel like a vacuum.
Georgie 51:19
Yeah.
Geoff 51:19
That was really annoying to me. But then I tried these these Bose ones and they they seem to be you know. Either I got used to it fairly quickly. But it seemed like less vacuous space type stuff. But they’re pretty good. But yeah, I had never gone to a silent disco, but I’ve seen them like I walk past them in maybe, where was I walking? I think it was in Surry Hills. Yeah, it was probably in Surry Hills, and it was just this room dimly lit like basically dark with some flashing lights. And people just like standing there with their headphones head banging, poppin, and I was like, what is this some kind of art installation? Like.
Georgie 51:59
Oh my god, maybe it should be maybe this interactive art or someone has taken some video pictures of like, a silent disco and it’s been like a, an art form.
Geoff 52:11
Yeah. Yeah, everyone just like freezes in the like just silent disco statues or something like that. Yeah.
Georgie 52:24
What?
Geoff 52:26
I know we all just fell silent. All right. Speaking of dancing we should dance off, speaking of silent we should go silent right now and end the podcast. Don’t forget to follow us @toastroastpod on Instagram and Twitter, mostly Twitter.
Georgie 52:47
And you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the big fucking club.
Geoff 52:56
You will not find us at the big fucking club.
Georgie 52:58
Actually we’re not gonna be there. In the parking lot?
Geoff 53:02
In the... hahaha. Having a picnic. And new episodes every Monday. See you next week.
Georgie 53:12
Bye!
Geoff 53:13
Bye.