Two “I’m not a car person” people talk about cars, learning to drive, and road incidents that have shaken them. And not a single mention of parallel parking.
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Content warning: There are some recounts of driving related accidents and anxiety in this episode.
Two “I’m not a car person” people talk about cars, learning to drive, and road incidents that have shaken them. And not a single mention of parallel parking.
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Georgie 0:00
Hey everybody. Oh wait, du du, du du, du du. Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host, Georgie and I’m here with Geoff. And it looks like we have a new jingle every single time.
Geoff 0:16
Yeah, I mean we can we can do some magic. Like, well let’s let’s compile all of the, all of jingles together and makes a whole jingle. And then we won’t have to get anybody else to do the jingle. Speaking of which, I think Taiyo said that he would be, he’d be open to joining us on the podcasts as like a guest. So yeah, what the hell we do with a guest? We’ll find out I guess. He’s like—
Georgie 0:51
I guess some preparation required?
Geoff 0:53
He said he’ll, he’ll have to go buy a microphone. And then I told him that you record your audio on an iPhone.
Georgie 1:00
Yeah.
Geoff 1:01
And he was like, what serious? I’m like, it’s kind of surprising, huh? It’s kind of surprising.
Georgie 1:08
It’s pretty damn good.
Geoff 1:10
Surprisingly.
Georgie 1:10
Yeah. I don’t think I’ll get on microphone anytime soon.
Geoff 1:14
Yeah, I don’t know about the – I guess it’s good quality. But your, your microphone on your iPhone is pretty good as well. But yeah.
Georgie 1:30
Yeah, I think I think even back in 20, tw...was trying to remember when it was 2012 or something. I recorded a recorded an EP on my fucking phone with me and my guitar, and it worked out alright. I just had to make sure my mum didn’t like, wasn’t in the background and shit.
Geoff 1:55
Oh, yeah. Like, did you only do one EP?
Georgie 2:00
Yeah, cuz I’m not fucking famous. I was just doing it for fun. I wrote some songs. And then some of them didn’t have any words, like they, actually one of them. I think a couple of them were improv. So it’s not like I actually had the notes written anyway, I just got out my guitar and started playing shit.
Geoff 2:16
You should put it on Spotify.
Georgie 2:18
It was just for fun. I’m not fucking putting it on Spotify. It’s already on frickin Bandcamp. And I don’t tell people how to find it. So you can find it if you dig but yeah. Hey, so this morning, I was talking to Monica because I was supposed to meet up with her tomorrow. But something came up and their car just kind of broke down. And she was like, I don’t worry. It’s 15 years old.
Geoff 2:46
Whoa.
Georgie 2:47
And this. Yeah. And this reminded me of, my parents, my parents love seem to love Toyota Camrys. They got one in 2000. The year 2000. Before that, they had some Ford, something or rather, something secondhand, that I just remember growing up in that car until 2000. And then they bought this Toyota Camry, and that Toyota Camry after 12 years. So in 2012 it got written off because it was in an accident. And I was in that accident that happened. It was the dumbest shit. I, I wouldn’t even like, I wouldn’t even call it an accident. So they’ve only been like two crashes. I guess you could say that I’ve been in the one that totalled this car – we were down this little street in suburbia where I grew up and I think my mum was just driving my brother and I somewhere. I think maybe we were just go to the shops or something where she was dropping us off somewhere.
Geoff 3:50
Day? Night?
Georgie 3:52
Day. Tiny street. Like it’s, it was like, like the whole thing was a rough the whole suburb in this area was like a rough sort of grid. So this street was like parallel to some others. You could take some of the other road but this one just happened to be quite narrow. And Brandon, my brother was sitting in the passenger seat and I was actually sitting in the back for some reason whatever. This is just what happened. So we both, both there, we’re both sitting on the left and mum was in the driver’s seat. People in in the US our driving is the opposite. Yeah. So we drove on the left of the road and the steering wheel’s on the right of the car. And like there was some, there was cars – like even though this is a very narrow road – there were some cars like parked on the left. And there was like a van driving in front of us kind of slowing down. So my mum started to slow down obviously, keeping a fair distance behind this van. And this van I believe, of trying to remember it accurately and I think she’ll actually think I’ve read a blog post about it with details, because this guy was an idiot. I believe that he indicated left. But even if he didn’t, he slowed down, like almost to a stop. And as he was slowing down, he was veering to the left as if he was, what, pulling – what’s the what’s the term – like pulling up?
Geoff 5:17
Oh, yeah.
Georgie 5:18
Like parking. Yeah. And then he stopped. Uh, my mum gave it a second. And like, I was observing what was going on. This was like before smartphones were enough to distract you every waking moment. So I was watching what was happening. And my mum waited just a sec enough for it to you know, move forward. And then she’s like, cool, started moving forward, my mom didn’t like fucking slam on the brakes or no shit, she just started moving forward, and the fucking guy, the in the van, he just all of sudden, goes out to the right and comes back out on the road and just scrapes the entire front headlight of our car.
Geoff 5:52
Oh shit.
Georgie 5:54
And like, and the thing is, like when he did that, even after the impact, he just kept like, like, his foot on the accelerator. He just, it was ridiculous. And like, I was just like, what the fuck. I remember screaming, like, “what the fuck”. And Brandon was just like, also screaming, I guess. And I was like, I feel like it was just weird. But basically, the car was fucked up man. And there was no way it could have been repaired. But I just feel like that guy was totally in the wrong.
Geoff 6:29
Yeah, I was listening to a different podcast. And they were talking about how they’re, that they were scared of driving in general. And the reason why they’re scared is because you get in this one tonne, like piece of metal. And then nothing is stopping you. Except for socially, like agreed rules on, to not kill people. Like anytime, someone can just decide to kill a bunch of people. And that’s why they like, don’t want to drive.
Georgie 7:08
Yeah, I don’t know if I’ve told you, but I’m actually scared of driving.
Geoff 7:11
Oh really. Yeah.
Georgie 7:15
Like, like.
Geoff 7:18
Yeah, I find that it’s um, you really do have to make a lot of snap decisions slash like, judgment calls on whether or not to speed up slow down. And yeah, I can I can get why it’s like kind of nerve racking.
Georgie 7:37
I think I’ve had like, a, just a few too many incidents where I probably could have gotten in a serious accident when I was driving.
Geoff 7:50
Mhmm. Me too.
Georgie 7:51
And that actually made me extremely anxious every time I got in a car thereafter. So I got my license, my learner’s license in, like 2000... two thousand and... So basically, as soon as you could get it, when you’re like, 16.
Geoff 8:09
Sixteen. Yeah.
Georgie 8:11
Yeah. And I was just really desperate to get it. But I didn’t really think about, like, how I was going to learn how to drive. My parents were really worried about letting me drive their car and so on. And I actually had that learner’s license for, I think, seven years without actually really using it. So I started learning in my parents’ car with my parents. And it was very, it was a very stressful experience. And then eventually, I had my my license expired. And then I had to just like start from scratch when I was like, 25 or something. And then I went with an instructor who had instructed Nick and his sister and I think some other people he knew. So he recommended this instructor and then I actually learned with her and it was a much better a better experience, I guess. And then, and then eventually I got my fulls. But when I was like learning during those weird seven years, I drove like, my parents car, I drove like – this guy was dating – I was driving his car sometimes and then I drove my ex’s car. And just like it was all I just remember this time. Like, I almost got into some accidents because I – I don’t know, like, when you’re young, right, you fucking think you’re invincible. And I just remember when I was driving, I was like, “cool. I’m really good at this”. And I just had, was overconfident. And I kind of wish I wasn’t because now I’m like, scared. And like, you don’t realise that like you said, you’re getting into like this fucking vehicle, and you’re controlling the vehicle and there’s just so much risk. But yeah, there was one time we were in Hunter Valley, Nick and I. And I was still kind of learning and, and Nick already had his full license and stuff. And we had to turn off this main road. And I kind of didn’t slow down enough. Like you know, in Hunter Valley. It’s like however many kilometers an hour it is. Because it’s like country road.
Geoff 10:24
Is it like 110 an hour?
Georgie 10:25
I didn’t slow down bef—yeah. And it’s like, I am very bad at gauging both distance and speed to like, make a decision or turn or whatever. And I turned right. And before I turned right, Nick was like, you haven’t slowed down. And, he was really calm. He said, You haven’t slowed down and off. Like, he’s like, just don’t worry about it. He missed the time. I listened to him. I fucking turned. And I did this. Like, I don’t even know what you want to call it, right. But the car fucking skidded and there was a car coming out of that street that would, yeah. And Nick said that if that car didn’t see what I was doing, we would have like, we probably would have died. Like the car saw that I was coming at some like massively ridiculous speed turning into the street. And they had slowed down like when I looked at I think they slow down maybe like a good 20 meters before the actual, like intersection on the main road. Because they had seen like some shit like, fucking stupid driver – me.
Geoff 11:27
Hooning.
Georgie 11:28
And then like after that—what?
Geoff 11:31
Hooning.
Georgie 11:32
No, like. No, they weren’t, they weren’t, they weren’t.
Geoff 11:35
You were hooning!
Georgie 11:36
But I was just like, I was like, that was really like, I think a scarring moment for me. And then afterwards, I just like slow, super slowed down. I was like crying behind the wheel. And it reminded me of literally, I was in Hunter Valley with my ex. And a similar thing happened, where I was just driving so fucking fast around a corner. And I just kind of like wasn’t on the road properly.
Geoff 12:02
Yeah.
Georgie 12:03
But yeah, she like this, where I’m like, you kind of realise that it’s, sometimes it’s you, sometimes it’s someone else makes a mistake, but it’s just this massive risk that just makes me think about how dangerous driving actually is.
Geoff 12:17
Yeah, the... I did something kind of similar, where I took the wrong turn out near like, I was like in Campbelltown. Like, where the freeway or highway or whatever you want to call it, you drive 110 kilometers down an hour down it, or I think it’s like was that 70, 80 miles per hour, whatever. And if you turn left, it took – it would take me like twenty minutes or something to then be able to swing back around and go the other way. Because I accidentally turned left instead of attending right to go back into the city. And as like, I’m not I’m not going to wait. Now this was fairly recently, I think maybe the last three years. But I decided not to wait like 20 minutes, because it was nighttime and I wanted to get home. So I found one of them police like U turn strips. And I, I was driving 110 kilometers an hour and I slowed down the equivalent, equivalent you would slow down if you were driving like 70 to 50, to 110 to like 90 kilometers an hour. And I took that turn on the dirt road and I fucking skidded. And, and the thing is like, I hadn’t slowed down enough to even be able to stop on that strip to check if there was a car that’s oncoming on the other side of the other side of the road. It just so happened that the car behind me that I was traveling 110 kilometers slowed down enough for me to take that turn because they could have fucking hit me. And when I exited that turn there was no car on the other side. And I was just like, holy shit. I like I will never make a decision like that ever again because I fuckin skidded and it wasn’t even my car and I knew that like I could have died instantly wiped off the face of the earth, but.
Georgie 14:21
I think I remember you kind of telling me that one.
Geoff 14:23
Yeah, I think I told you that I failed my like L’s to P license like eight times, nine times.
Georgie 14:33
I think you told me a couple of them.
Geoff 14:35
Yeah.
Georgie 14:35
Like did you say like you were right at the end and you were about to park or like you parked wrong or you—
Geoff 14:40
Oh.
Georgie 14:41
Something you did at the very end?
Geoff 14:43
One of them was I was at the very end and I merged in, I changed lanes too close to the car in the other lane you meant to keep like one car length.
Georgie 14:52
Is this when you were going in, back to the centre?
Geoff 14:53
Yeah, back to the centre. I was like literally that that, okay when it’s safe, like change lane and then get in, and turn right back into the centre. And I fucking failed. I’m like, shit, what the hell.
Georgie 15:04
Oh my god.
Geoff 15:06
But yeah, I’ve I’ve done other stupid stuff. Um, not really stupid. It’s just really minor stuff but they call it a like an instant fail.
Georgie 15:14
An error? Yeah.
Geoff 15:16
I went five kilometers over the speed limit to get up a hill because I was just like, go up the hill faster. Like I was just like, put my foot down on and I rolled the stop sign because I just thought I was too good. Too good for the school. Too Cool For School. I did some other stuff. I—oh, one of the stupid ones, I didn’t put my car into drive when leaving a parking spot. So I parked. And then I, and they were like, “cool. Now go”. So I didn’t shift into drive. And I went backwards instead of forwards. So.
Georgie 16:00
Oh my god. Shit.
Geoff 16:02
I found every instant fail. But yeah.
Georgie 16:07
That backwards one. Oh my god. It reminds me of something that happened to me.
Geoff 16:12
Yeah?
Georgie 16:12
I might have told you this one. But this was when I lived like out in Western Sydney. And I was going to the gym at like 5:30 in the morning. And usually I take pre workout which getes you geed up. Like so average cup of coffee is like 85 milligrams of caffeine and pre workout is like 300 milligrams.
Geoff 16:35
Shit.
Georgie 16:36
In one go. So it gets you super geed up. And I had to drive to the gym because of like, in suburbia, you don’t really live in like walking distance of no gym or whatever. And I get in the car after I’ve taken this stuff. And I’m like, yeah, cool, everything’s fine. I’m, I like when this was after I got my license and stuff, and so I was quite comfortable driving, I have to say that I got comfortable driving and then in the past like five years, I became uncomfortable because I just didn’t drive as much anymore. Then I had to kind of every now and then go and take my car out for a rando drive, get used to it again. But anyway, I drive to the gym. And I’m gonna turn into the, into the parking space. I think I’m reversing. Yeah, I’m reversing in. And I see someone I think either behind me or from the other side, so basically, I’m kind of in their way. So I gotta, I gotta be—not dawdle. Otherwise, I fear, pissing them off. And that’s what I don’t like about driving is some people are just not patient enough for you to park. And I’m, I always think like parking is tricky, right? You cannot rush someone trying to park their vehicle. Anyway, I thought, well, I just don’t want to make this person mad. I’ll just try and do this as quickly and as safely as possible. And I start reversing into the space and everything feels fine and well and good. But you know, when you’re reversing, and you have your foot on the brake. So let’s say yeah, like you’re you want to slow the car down, right, or stop it. And so you have your foot on the brake, and then you lift your foot off the brake when you want it to move a little bit. Like when you’re when you’re slowing down, you know, yeah, like it’s like when you’re at a stop sign or sorry, stopped. When you’re about to – when you’re a stoplight or some, you’re gonna turn or whatever. And then your, a car in front of you moves forward and you want to move forward, you put foot off the brake, and like a little bit so the car rolls and then you put your foot back on the brake, right? I don’t know, I reckon I was geed up from this fucking pre workout. I did not realise – I thought my foot was on the brake, but it was on the fucking accelerator. And so I go, oh, I’m gonna stop the car. And I slam my foot down on the accelerator.
Geoff 18:54
Oh my god.
Georgie 18:55
And lucky for me, this parking space at the back of it had one of those like solid concrete, like yellow and black striped bumper things. And I rammed right into it. And I was like, holy fuck. And as soon as that happened, I just like, slammed my foot on the actual brakes. And I was like, whew.
Geoff 19:17
Yeah.
Georgie 19:18
And I turned around and I moved forward a little bit just so I wasn’t like right up against the bumper, and I looked, turned around and like, it’s fucking pitch black because it’s 5:30 in the morning. And if that fucking bumper wasn’t there, I would have like, moved backwards accelerated into the fucking buildings behind me. And I was like, shit.
Geoff 19:39
That’s, um, that’s something that’s strange. That was strange when I got my new car is that it doesn’t roll. It lit–it like, it just stops. It’s uh, yeah.
Georgie 19:51
Just flat out stops.
Geoff 19:52
Yeah, you don’t have to use the brake or anything. It slows itself down to a stop. So when you’re reversing, you actually need to press the gas to make it move, and then you release the gas, release the gas pedal for it to stop. So it’s like the opposite of what you’d expect in terms of a car that automatically kind of rolls either direction. Yeah, it’s kind of strange. And it’s, it took a bit of getting used to, I think you can get it to emulate the rolling effect. But it’s not, it’s, it’s not something you need. But it is something counterintuitive if you’ve driven some other cars.
Georgie 20:32
Isn’t this just like why electric cars are safer as well though?
Geoff 20:36
Yeah, I think so.
Georgie 20:38
Yeah, if it needs to stop, like, if you get on like, some autopilot thing, it needs to stop, then it’ll stop. It won’t roll and stop. But I guess.
Geoff 20:48
Yeah yeah.
Georgie 20:48
Especially if there’s like harm or danger or something.
Geoff 20:51
Also, like, if you’re putting your foot on the brake all the time, and if you let go, and your car just rolls forward, that’s pretty unsafe in general, because if your foot gets—
Georgie 21:02
We gotta think about it right.
Geoff 21:03
Yeah, your foot gets tired. And you’re just like, oh, yeah, I’m just gonna let go of this brake. No, you don’t do that. You don’t do that. You just roll over, roll, and hit somebody. But yeah.
Georgie 21:14
Yeah this reminds me of times when I’ve had my foot on the brake, and I’m just like, stuck in some heavy ass traffic. And I need, for some reason, to scratch my fucking foot or my ankle. And I’m like, pour out. I gotta like, get my other foot. Put it on the brake as well. Scratch my other foot. Put the foot back.
Geoff 21:34
Yeah, I’ve done that foot shimmy. Where it’s sort of like, you put one foot on them and you like lift off your other foot, and you just shimmy it back on.
Georgie 21:44
Yeah.
Geoff 21:46
Yeah, I’ve done, a thing is like, usually when someone else is in the car with me, and I’m like talking to them is when I do the most mistakes. Like one time, I turned right, onto oncoming traffic, like oncoming traffic. Like, but thankfully, it was like a four lane one way like high – freeway or whatever. And I could do it up. I had enough to like room to u-ey back. I’m like, oh my god, why did why would it go green? Why did I think I could just turn right into this like, into oncoming traffic. So it’s the usually the distraction would get, would get me.
Georgie 22:34
Sometimes I don’t think it’s like distractions that can cause that either. Like sometimes the markings on the road are so shit that you like, go, where is this like. There’s this one road near me where it’s technically straight, according to the road markings. But visually, it angles at like, I don’t know, five degrees or something. And you can’t see it because it is ever so slight crest in the intersection. And you’re like where the f am I going, because it’s also like a five way thing. So you could be turning what is, according to the road markings, left. But that’s like a freaking – I don’t know – like nine degree angle to the left or like from the horizontal? I mean, sorry, from in front of you. And it’s like, I don’t understand. And then I feel like I see this quite frequently. And you’re like, is that something I can turn into? Or like, the opposite direction?
Geoff 23:29
Yeah, I think that’s like, yeah, very just poor city planning. Um, so we we have a co worker, a colleague of mine who started work, like last Monday, and they, they’re from India, but they live in Melbourne at the moment. And, like, they joined a company that’s based in Sydney. So they’re thinking of like, coming up to Sydney, just to like, get a feel of the area. Maybe they’ll move up. But they heard that Sydney is just chaotic in terms of roads and stuff compared to Melbourne where everything’s like a frickin grid and you, you like take three turns and you’re but you’re back where the hell you started. But yeah, they’re like, worried because they just they, they knew they know how chaotic it is in India, and they don’t – and someone said that Sydney is just as chaotic and they don’t want to come to Sydney because of that. And I’m like, I don’t know about India, but it’s pretty pretty messed up here, sometimes. Especially if you drive in the city.
Georgie 24:37
Yeah a lot of people who... Yeah, I am, I am not a fan and driving. Like I freak out. Like this one time I had to pick Nick up from university ages ago, and which was at USYD and I was driving from Western Sydney and even just like dri—I hate Parramatta Road. Can I just say, like, PSA, I hate Parramatta Road. But like that was my first time driving by myself in the city, because I think it was literally the day after I got my license something, I was like, whee. And it’s just, I don’t know even people who are not born here. Not born in Sydney think that Sydney traffic is totally chaotic.
Geoff 25:21
Yeah. Actually on Parramatta Road I had, I think my first rear end someone, someone bumped into me and then I bumped into the car in front of me. But the car in front of me had a big, like, big wheel on the back. I think they were some kind of Jeep, so I bounced off that wheel. So everything was fine. But that person in the front was the most active person in this incident. They got out of their car, everyone get your details out, and I’m like, nothing’s wrong with your car. Like I know this is sort of like 6 or 7pm at night. And you know, it’s kind of dark. But pretty sure nothing is wrong with your car. But yeah, I think the person at the back ended up, yeah. Fronting the bill for like repairing my car, and of course nothing on the front, on the front person. But yeah, Parramatta Road is pretty notorious for just bumper to bumper traffic. And the only alternative is paying like a 7, 8 dollar toll to get on the on the on the adjacent road. Which is...
Georgie 26:36
Exactly.
Geoff 26:37
Crazy.
Georgie 26:39
My parents still don’t believe in tolls. They still don’t, like, growing up they never wanted to pay the toll so I was always a fucking — I feel like I spent like a quarter mile from Parramatta Road every time they wanted to go east for some like Indonesian food. And now I fuckin live in the east, and like every time they visit us, or come around this area, they go on Parramatta Road and then they talk about how it’s going to take two hours to get home and then, you know. Like I have changed a little bit in my frugal ways right? You should just pay the, you should just pay the money. Like my parents kind of I guess they still quite haven’t grasped the time is money thing, and I totally get it, right. Like they were obviously less fortunate than me when they were growing up so they still see money differently, but they more than happy to spend a long time in traffic to avoid paying for a toll.
Geoff 27:34
Yeah you can also argue the fuel costs associated with how much time you spend on a non toll road.
Georgie 27:43
Have I told you what my dad does with fuel sometimes, man. I had a go at him once because he wanted to get cheaper fuel – this was when I still lived with my parents – and he was looking for a Shell, like specifically looking for a Shell. Like I asked him like, why, like there’s, like a servo across the way. And he was looking for it to save like four cents on petrol or something. But he was driving for like 20 minutes to a Shell and I was like, Dad, like I don’t think this makes any sense. The money you saved you just spent, getting to, getting to the server like so far from home and back.
Geoff 28:24
Yeah, my dad used to be pretty set on that kind of stuff as well but I think he he’s come around to a modicum of like “Time is money” mindset. The, I think the fuel thing he does he does get. He’s just like well, why would I spend all that time going somewhere else just to get like the fuel. But yeah, I don’t know. I can’t comment on such things anymore. I don’t pay for fuel. But I mean like back, back when I used to do a lot of driving. Yeah, I would just I just rack up the toll, it’s fine. Gets get to places quicker. The, I did have an incident one time where my car was parked, though. Like it was just parked in the cul de sac where I was staying. And I came back after work one night and the back, back window was just smashed in. Like someone had smashed the back window, opened the door and then opened every crevice – compartment – in the car. And then they, then they left.
Georgie 29:42
Shit.
Geoff 29:43
And I was like, so wait a second. This person walked next to my car, didn’t see anything to take but still broke the window and then proceeded to try find something to take. I found that incredibly insane. We found out later that my friend’s sunglasses were taken were taken from the sunglasses, like, holder. But, but yeah, it’s like ooh, maybe oops I cracked this window, I guess I’ll just try and find something to steal like is that even...
Georgie 30:17
Oh so you’re telling me that this is like some five buck Reject Shop sunnies.
Geoff 30:21
Oh no they weren’t, they were like a I think they were like a gift or... I think they were designer.
Georgie 30:27
Okay because I was because I was gonna be like I get, I understand this, because I buy like boue fucking designer sunnies.
Geoff 30:36
Yeah which is okay, like, but it was in the sun—sunglasses compartment, no one would see it from outside to even think about breaking in and taking it. “Oh, this car seems more upmarket than the other ones. I guess I’ll break—” it was a fucking Mitsubishi Lancer dude. Like, don’t go around break, breaking into people’s cars with no, no motive, no reasonable motive.
Georgie 31:02
Someone just wanted to vandalise some shit.
Geoff 31:05
Yeah. I had someone was doing construction in the apartment next door and that, like, like a truck carrying like a mini bulldozer – no mini, like, digging machine. Yeah because the street is super narrow. It just completely took off like the the back right side of my car because they got out of the roundabout and just completely smashed through my car. Exiting the roundabout.
Georgie 31:34
Holy shit.
Geoff 31:36
They left the note though, so they were nice. They, and they were like, by the way, you’re too close to the roundabout. You’re parked too close to the roundabout. And that’s how I learned not to park too close to roundabouts. Yeah.
Georgie 31:48
You shouldn’t talk too close to any like corner, right?
Geoff 31:51
Yeah, that’s true. I think it’s legal... Yeah, the legally you’re meant to park like a couple metres away from the corners anyways.
Georgie 31:58
Yeah, there’s a number. I don’t know what it is. Hey, so this rolling back thing I just thought of something. Man, I gotta call this one out. But um, I had an ex who for some reason, and I didn’t quite understand this. But he told me that. I. So, I’m trying. I’m trying to remember how this works again. So you’re driving and the car’s in drive. This is an automatic car.
Geoff 32:27
Yes.
Georgie 32:27
And then if you want to park the car, you put the car into park and then you pull up the handbrake?
Geoff 32:35
Yes.
Georgie 32:38
That’s right, right?
Geoff 32:39
Yeah.
Georgie 32:39
And then let’s say you’re about to leave. Yeah, you leave, you want to leave, you put the handbrake down, you put your foot on the brake, and then you put the car into drive, otherwise you’re still fucking parked.
Geoff 32:49
Yeah.
Georgie 32:49
So for some reason, for some reason, this ex of mine said to me and – something to do with the way the internals of the car contacts, the whatever something, like, to avoid some kind of weirdass damage or whatever. He said, in between those two steps, put like the handbrake on or off, or the car in park and drive, between park and drive. In between those two steps. He said you got to put the car into neutral. So, here’s how it would go. I’m stopped. Okay, I’m stopped and parked, right, put the handbrake down. No, actually no. Put the car into neutral, put the handbrake down, and then put the car into drive and then go drive, right? And then if I want to stop, put the car into neutral and then put the handbrake down, and put the car into park or something, I’m like, it was the weirdest shit. And like, I did this, and then like, blah, blah, blah, broke up with my ex, yada, yada. And then I think the next person to see me drive was Nick. And I was driving his car, or maybe it was my car, and he was like, supervising, because he had his full license. And he goes, “what are you doing?” I’m like, “I’m putting the current in neutral before the handbrake”. And he’s like what, why. I’m like, because that’s what blah, blah told me to. It’s like, why I’m like, because it reduces some damage or something. I don’t know. And Nick was like, “What the fuck?” Nick said to me, “What the fuck? That’s so dangerous”. He goes, “What do you think would happen if you’re on a hill?” And I was like, “What do you mean?” And he’s like, “if you weren’t a hill, you’d fucking roll back”.
Geoff 32:49
Yeah.
Georgie 32:57
“It’s very dangerous”. I was like, like, I didn’t get it right. And this is... I don’t understand why, but yeah, he was like, if you’re on a hill like me, and he was also like, I dunno, debunked whatever my ex said, and was like, I think he said it doesn’t even matter because the car is designed to deal with this shit. So why do you need to put it in neutral or something? But yeah, if you, if you put it neutral, it means you’re not, like, you’re gonna roll down the hill. I hate cars, Geoff.
Geoff 34:48
I remember hearing something about something similar where you do put it into neutral first and then you, and then you go into the next one. I think it’s a very manual thing to think about. I’ve never seen any, like, problems with just going straight from drive to reverse, or reverse to drive. The but yeah, my teach—my teacher actually was quite old school, and he was like, “This is how you do a hill start”. Like he took, he even took like the autos, like the steering assist. He turned that off. I don’t know how but he turned it off. And so so you have to actually turn the wheel the the exact amount that you want the wheel to turn, it’s not like a quarter turn will get you like, more. And it was quite heavy to like turn the wheel. But yeah, he taught me how to do a hill start, I can’t remember what that even means? And—
Georgie 35:52
I think it means exactly what you think it means.
Geoff 35:54
Something along the lines of putting into neutral and letting it roll down the hill, and then putting into drive and then braking or something I can’t remember.
Georgie 36:03
Yeah.
Geoff 36:03
But, but yeah. I think there was something neutral was useful for. Now I can’t remember. The only time, like the only other weird thing that you do is when you’re on a hill and you want to go forward, you literally have to like put your foot on the brake and the gas at the same time or something, and then you... or you keep the handbrake on, you put the foot on the gas and then you lift the handbrake off so that you go forward instead of rolling fucking backwards, right. But yeah, I’ve never heard of this neutral thing. It being done in fact, Hey, man, I can make anything prob—I can probably make anything sound pretty logical and convince some people to do some weird stuff.
Georgie 36:54
Like you just have the internet right? All you have to do is like, chuck some, I don’t know. It’s probably like an old, you know, those old wives tales that people—oh my god. Do you remember? Do you remember? There was, so you’ve used, I assume, those mice? The old computer mice? They had the trackball in them.
Geoff 37:13
Mm hmm.
Georgie 37:15
Did you see a couple years back or maybe a few more years back? There was a big troll where some older people were like, do you ever remember?, or they were like I remember having to overcook an egg yolk for my mouse all the time and they showed a photo of a hard boiled egg with the yolk like kind of yellowish gray, and then they showed the bottom of a track – like of a mouse with the trackball, and people who—have you seen this?
Geoff 37:46
No?
Georgie 37:48
Look it up, just go type in “mouse ball egg”, something like that.
Geoff 37:57
“Old people are trolling young people with this hack”. What the.
Georgie 38:02
So basically what happened, we’re getting, getting younger—
Geoff 38:09
Oh no.
Georgie 38:09
Younger people who had never never seen a mouse, like an old mouse, saw this and they were like wow, is this, like, it was, it was on the cusp of being “this could be true” to like, “but it sounds too good to be true”. And people are jumping on the bandwagon, going, “yeah I had, I could, I had to do this” and like, you know, trolling. But you know, younger generations were like so confused and really wanted to know whether it was legit but there was nothing on the internet about this.
Geoff 38:41
Oh my god don’t put a hard... How do you... you know what, egg yolks don’t even, probably don’t even fit in the bottom of the mice. That’s... if anything they should be...
Georgie 38:55
Wait you don’t get it, Geoff, the whole point was to – because of the visual resemblance – it was, it was to make a joke. I don’t think they a—no one actually did this.
Geoff 39:03
I know but like, if anything...
Georgie 39:05
It was just a massive troll.
Geoff 39:06
You should actually troll people with this mouse. Like the Kensington one. Where you actually have a fucking hole, the track, the massive trackball can be replaced by an egg yolk. Like, but I get, I get what this is, this is hilarious. Please tell me people weren’t like—oh, “everybody jumped in on it”. “This is why I was into keeping chickens”. So true. “Thankfully, mouse manufacturers decided to part ways with chicken laying companies due to foul play”. This is, this is a good April Fool’s, like, this one would be a great April Fool’s.
Georgie 39:45
Except everyone, everyone knows it now because now it’s on some website.
Geoff 39:48
Yeah. But I would I would have picked...
Georgie 39:51
You could make...
Geoff 39:52
I would have picked this. Taiyo still uses a trackball. He’s very old school. So maybe I can’t troll him with this one now because obviously he’s listening to this podcast.
Georgie 40:09
Damnit.
Geoff 40:13
But this is hilarious. This is a great April Fool’s. But you know, speaking of eggs, we should roll on out of this podcast.
Georgie 40:24
Put the car into neutral and roll back down the hill.
Geoff 40:26
Roll on back down. Hope you enjoy listening to this wherever you’re rolling to.
Georgie 40:33
Drive safe, kids.
Geoff 40:34
Drive safe. Thanks, everybody for listening. We got—you can follow us @toastroastpod on Instagram and Twitter, mostly Instagram. I mean, Twitter.
Georgie 40:49
And you can find us— you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the big roundabout. Make sure you park many a metre away or a yard. I don’t know what you call it in the US. Many a metre or yard away from the roundabout. Actually, they don’t have roundabouts in the US.
Geoff 41:10
Yeah, what? They don’t have roundabouts in the US? Let us know if you have roundabouts in... If you know what a roundabout is. New episodes every Monday. See you next week
Georgie 41:23
See you next week.
Geoff 41:24
Bye.