Toast & Roast

75: It’s in the (rolling) bag

Episode Summary

Let’s roll—our hosts discuss backpacks vs. roller suitcases, store credit vs. refunds, and complain about social media again.

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Let’s roll—our hosts discuss backpacks vs. roller suitcases, store credit vs. refunds, and complain about social media again. 

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Georgie  0:09  

Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host Georgie, as usual, I’m here with the Geoff.

 

Geoff  0:19  

I am the Geoff.

 

Georgie  0:21  

The.

 

Geoff  0:22  

My name.

 

Georgie  0:22  

Geoff.

 

Geoff  0:23  

...Geoff.

 

Georgie  0:25  

I got a question for you.

 

Yeah.

 

Let’s say you order something, you order something online?

 

Geoff  0:31  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  0:33  

And it arrives and the product just in some way, doesn’t really matter how, but maybe it let’s just say on a on a smaller scale not on a major scale. But, but in some way the item is faulty.

 

Geoff  0:50  

Uh huh. Faulty—

 

Georgie  0:50  

What do you do?

 

Geoff  0:51  

...by whose definition?

 

Georgie  0:57  

By your definition, I guess? You, you attempt to attempt to use it and just something just—

 

Geoff  1:02  

Oh, OK.

 

Georgie  1:04  

Like, yeah, manufacturing problem, let’s just say something about it just

 

Geoff  1:08  

What do I do.

 

Georgie  1:09  

What do you do?

 

Geoff  1:11  

I throw it off my balcony. (laughs) No, I return it. I, I lodge a return and say, look, this is doesn’t work. Take it away from me. I hate it.

 

Georgie  1:27  

How do you expect to lodge the return?

 

Geoff  1:32  

Send an email. I think usually in the past few weeks, it’s been send an email, contact their website or something along those lines.

 

Georgie  1:46  

Okay, so I have a problem with this send an email.

 

Geoff  1:49  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  1:50  

Which seems to be which seems to be the case for some smaller, like, smaller businesses. So if you if you’re with a larger, like a department store or something and you do some shit, like The Iconic, which sells a lot of clothing and accessories and other stuff, they, it’s more automated, right? You can just click on which things from your order you want to return and they have some kind of portal or whatever. But I found that smaller companies, you have to send an email and send pictures.

 

Geoff  2:16  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  2:16  

And whatnot. So I had to do that—

 

Geoff  2:18  

Ooh, pictures?

 

Georgie  2:19  

Yes, pictures. I don’t want to just say hey, something was wrong with this. I want to prove that something was wrong. So they have zero doubt. And...

 

Geoff  2:29  

So?

 

Georgie  2:30  

I, okay, so this item I purchased was a pair of shorts. And it had pockets in it. And one of the pockets, for some reason just wasn’t working properly because it had been folded and part of the pocket had been sewn into the lining of the shorts.

 

Geoff  2:49  

Oh, god.

 

Georgie  2:50  

Yeah. So it just you put your hand in, it was just like, what the fuck is going on here—

 

Geoff  2:54  

So it’s a fake pocket?

 

Georgie  2:54  

Compared to the other pocket. It’s not fake. They were real. It was just when it was sewn, along with the rest of the garment.

 

Geoff  3:02  

They thought it should be a fake one.

 

Georgie  3:05  

No, it was like folded in a weird way. So they didn’t actually sew it up. It was like, it’s like they made an error. So anyway, I I didn’t even like the shorts anyway. And I wanted to return it. And I said to them in the email. So this is the annoying part, they have a seven day returns.

 

Geoff  3:25  

Geez.

 

Georgie  3:25  

Timeframe from when you get the items.

 

Geoff  3:27  

Seven days is very short.

 

Georgie  3:29  

I know, it’s barely enough time to take a shit. So seven days, so I emailed them, but they didn’t reply for over a day. And then I started to get concerned. I said, look, I, nicest way possible, I said, can you let me know if you receive the email because I’m aware you have a seven day return window. And what they did, and I explained to them that there was a fault in the garment, but I also didn’t really want it anymore. I just wanted to send it back. Because what use, what used to me is a pair of shorts that not only the pocket is just like useless. But I don’t even like, and then what they did was they said to me that I could keep it. And then they just gave me a value, like a gift card to the value of the pair of shorts.

 

Geoff  4:17  

Oh, God.

 

Georgie  4:21  

I can hear, I feel like in the back of your brain you’re about to go into the store credit gift card thing.

 

Geoff  4:26  

Well, that and like I just had that happen. I bought the wrong thing, that’s on me. But they were generous enough to allow, or, they’re generous enough to say, well, you can just return it however, for any reason. And instead of letting me return it, they sent me the replacement and the refund and now I have the thing still here and I’m like, well I don’t want it. What am I gonna do with this thing that I didn’t want in the first place? Man, I don’t know, do I just throw it off the balcony? Like I said in the beginning?

 

Georgie  5:03  

Is that why that was your answer? Because you’ve been through this and you’re like, fuck this shit.

 

Geoff  5:09  

Ah man.

 

Georgie  5:10  

Yeah, look, I can, I can try and like, sell the shorts. I could just try and fucking deal with a stupid pocket anyway. But it just makes me want to—also the store credit thing kind of—

 

Geoff  5:23  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  5:23  

Bums me a little bit. Someone in the US, and if anyone from the US is listening to this, I think, because I did, I did watch a video by a girl from the US who said, it seems like in Australia, they always do this store credit thing, they don’t actually just straight up, give you a refund. They just give you credit for the store. And the thing that sucks, which I thoroughly agree with, is what if you fucking don’t like anything else from that store?

 

Geoff  5:50  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  5:52  

What am I gonna do with the store credit?

 

Geoff  5:54  

Yeah, I haven’t hit the store credit thing as often as I probably should. But the interesting thing is, when I have hit the store credit was for a watch. And yeah, we don’t like anything else from the store. And anything—and we tried, we like got them to send out another watch. Didn’t like that. We’re gonna get them sent out another watch, because hopefully we’d like that one. But yeah, we’re stuck with this credit. Possibly stuck with this credit. The thing is, the watch broke. And they were going to give us credit for that watch. And I’m like, oh, my god, it literally broke. And he’s still want to give us credit for it. It’s just ridiculous.

 

Georgie  6:46  

Yeah, I mean, at this point, I think I’d just cut my losses. You know, or just, yeah.

 

Geoff  6:54  

Yeah, just throw it off the balcony.

 

Georgie  6:58  

Free pair of shorts! Woo!

 

Geoff  6:59  

Yeah, free pair of shorts. You can give it to a cosplayer. A cosplayer would do wonders with just a standard pair of shorts. They could probably be re-sew a different pocket, just rip out whatever mistake and sew another pocket on it.

 

Georgie  7:13  

Yeah, see the thing, the funny thing is, I know basic sewing. Right. So I could try and fix it. But I think it just so happened that the way that it was stitched in was not like—it was like the stitches of the lining was kind of interlocked with the stitches of the pocket. So no matter what I cut, or trim, one of them is going to come loose. Like it wasn’t just like a part of the fabric and another part of the fabric, remove the stitches. Right. So.

 

Geoff  7:45  

Wow, that’s so bad. Yeah, the store credit thing? I don’t know, how often do you hit up against the store credit thing? My only, my only one is this watch. I can’t think of another one.

 

Georgie  7:56  

Um, I don’t know, I think first time in a while that, yeah, that I’ve had this. There’s this activewear brand that I buy from, like, maybe once every year or so. And a couple of times, I’ve returned stuff and they’re based up in Brisbane or like Queensland somewhere, and they do the store credit thing. And it’s pretty cool, actually, their returns portal, you just say I don’t like this stuff, or whatever. And then right then and there, you can do an exchange. So you can pick something else from the store. Using just the whole—like you choose the, like the UI is quite good. You just pick something else from their store. And they can send that to you immediately. And it’s, it’s on you to go to Australia Post and then just send off the stuff that you don’t want anymore. And they just put like a $1—

 

Geoff  8:46  

Oh yeah.

 

Georgie  8:46  

...charge, $1 charge on your card. Or you can say don’t do that, like I’ll send it and then you receive it and then you send me my exchange. So it’s all really easy. And I’m like why can’t it all just be like this.

 

Geoff  9:04  

Okay, major, major, first world problem flag here, but I have a bag that is, that has a lifetime warranty, which is—

 

Georgie  9:15  

(laughs) Okay. All right. Let’s go. Let’s go.

 

Geoff  9:18  

(laughs)

 

Georgie  9:18  

I’m about to hear a take on this.

 

Geoff  9:21  

Not really, I mean, like the thing is, there have been some minor faults with previous bags. And they are great. Like, they don’t really ask many questions about the fault of the bag. I usually send pictures. The previous bag had not withstood—it’s supposed to be a water tight, not water tight tight, like can’t go swimming with it. But at least like rain, like shouldn’t seep through the zipper lining. So I was like, look, this is like you’ve marketed this as kind of water resistant. And I feel like this is not a not up to scuff? Snuff? Snuff. So—

 

Georgie  10:05  

Snuff?

 

Geoff  10:06  

They’re really—yes, snuff, up to snuff. They’re really cool about it. So they’re their policy is that if you find a fault, they will just send you a new bag. Right?

 

Georgie  10:18  

OK.

 

Geoff  10:18  

So my first fall they sent me a new one, I sold off first the first bag for heavy discount. And then like and then I gotta fall with that bag. So they sent me a new bag.

 

Georgie  10:30  

Oh!

 

Geoff  10:31  

Like, I got two bags. I gave one of them to my partner because it’s still functional. This zip is a bit zip tag, like tag is a bit broken, but otherwise still functional. But nowhere in this process did I have an option to send the bag, faulty bag away. Like, like if I had not sold off that other bag, I just accumulated. I’ll have have like three of these bags.

 

Georgie  10:57  

Yeah, you would. (laughs)

 

Geoff  11:00  

I don’t even want belt loops. What makes you think I want three bags? Same bag. So.

 

Georgie  11:06  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  11:08  

And honestly, this bag is not as good as their previous one.

 

Georgie  11:12  

Oh, shit. So—

 

Geoff  11:13  

They were like, v2.

 

Georgie  11:14  

They probably had updated it?

 

Geoff  11:15  

Yeah, yeah, they were like—

 

Georgie  11:17  

So you get—

 

Geoff  11:18  

“Good news”, we’re gonna give you the version two. Sorry?

 

Georgie  11:21  

Yeah. So they’ll send you whatever version they have now, because you bought this bag like ages ago.

 

Geoff  11:26  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  11:27  

Also, how do they check that you purchased the bag, the original bag?

 

Geoff  11:32  

Oh, it’s serial codes. So each bag has a QCE, quality check?

 

Georgie  11:37  

Do they keep tabs on this? It’s like, Geoff has traded the—traded?

 

Geoff  11:44  

My account should say like, oh my god, he’s traded like three of these bags.

 

Georgie  11:48  

Wait, did they ask for proof, like pictures and stuff, or?

 

Geoff  11:52  

I don’t—no. I tried to take proof of the first fault. That was really difficult, but they didn’t give a shit. And they just sent me a new one. This one I gave them proof that was very obvious. So they they again sent me a new one. Arguably, I didn’t know what would happen if I just said I don’t—there’s something wrong, and then like, get them to send it to me?

 

Georgie  12:14  

You know what will be hard to capture? “The bag has a funny smell to it”.

 

Geoff  12:19  

Yeah. (laughs)

 

Georgie  12:20  

But that wouldn’t happen if you’d used it.

 

Geoff  12:23  

I put a, I put a doughnut in the bag before. And I think I found—I didn’t see it before. But there’s like this, this, this, this this line, this line on one of the shelves inside my bag.

 

Georgie  12:35  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  12:35  

Which looks like the oil had like just seeped through. I’m not so sure how to clean that. But whatever. Just I’ll just tell them like it absorbed oil. Send me a new one.

 

Can you remove it? Is it like a divider thing?

 

It’s a divider. I can remove the divider. Actually, we might have a spare one, I can just swap it out. Anyways—

 

Georgie  12:56  

Just throw it in the washing machine.

 

Geoff  12:58  

Just...

 

Georgie  12:58  

Or vinegar, as we’ve learned.

 

Geoff  13:02  

Oh yeah, vinegar.

 

Georgie  13:02  

Nah, I don’t think that’s going to work.

 

Geoff  13:04  

Anyway, so now I’ve got this bag and in nowhere in the process I can either send the old one or just get a refund because like maybe I don’t want this bag anymore. It’s a good bag though. So. The problem with it is that it’s kind of anti travel. It’s like a good everyday bag, but it’s heavy alone, like you got nothing in it still feels quite heavy.

 

Georgie  13:27  

Yeah, that’s shit.

 

Geoff  13:28  

Yeah. So taking on planes and stuff like that. You don’t get checked. Anyone who’s listening to this who is an airline person, I’m not gonna tell you what bag it is. But you can you can pack it. You can pack it, it’ll be like nine kilos, but it will look like nine kilos. So generally I don’t go checked for it.

 

Georgie  13:49  

I think it depends where you’re going. Because like we went to Greece and like through we went through like Dubai and stuff. They wanted us to put the bags—

 

Geoff  13:58  

Ooh.

 

Georgie  13:59  

Our cabin bags on the weighing thing. Yeah. Although they were still semi lenient. Like I think, I think mine was like, maybe just under seven. And then Nick’s was just over seven. They were probably like, peeps traveling together, evens out, bitches.

 

Geoff  14:16  

Yeah. So um, so yeah, this bag is kind of heavy. And I was like, maybe I’ll go for a lighter bag for travel. But I think I’m beyond the times where I used to try and travel with my backpack, just my backpack.

 

Georgie  14:34  

What! Really!

 

Geoff  14:36  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  14:36  

Because I feel like I’m about to go into that time. I actually want, yeah I actually want a bag, like a what do you call it, like a fort—how many litres is yours?

 

Geoff  14:46  

Mine is like 10 litres or something like that. It’s very small.

 

Georgie  14:50  

Yeah, I want like one of those litre backpacks and not fucking drag my little rolly thing. Not that it is fundamentally a problem with it, but I just can’t I would rather not have to drag a small suitcase with me, but whatever, I will pack light regardless.

 

Geoff  15:07  

I have a duffel bag now, and I’m like, trying to think do I pack a duffel? But then I’d actually have to lift seven, seven kilos.

 

Georgie  15:16  

Yeah, that’s that’s exactly, that’s exactly why yeah, the rolling yeah.

 

Geoff  15:20  

People who know me know I don’t lift. Anyone who is in that era, don’t ask me if I lift bro, all right.

 

Georgie  15:30  

That’s me.

 

Geoff  15:31  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  15:32  

Do you even lift bro?

 

Geoff  15:35  

So yeah, I’m not I’m not a fond, I’m not fond of the idea of like, picking up seven kilos. And then like hoisting it over my head into like the over carriage.

 

Georgie  15:48  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  15:50  

Which I have to do anyways with the rolly bag, but oh well, whatever.

 

Georgie  15:54  

It’s a bit more like shape. Like whereas a duffel bag? I did, so this is why I feel like, the reason why—I did try to bring a duffel bag once—and I think the good thing is you can squish it into the overhead.

 

Geoff  16:06  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  16:07  

If you need to, like it’s malleable in a shape. But like a standard cabin suitcase is not like that.

 

Geoff  16:15  

So I feel like, like my my rolly bag is actually pretty small. I think it’s actually seven kilos, like seven seven. It’s like 10 litre or something like that. It’s the same litreage. Perhaps a little more than my backpack. But it’s same litreage, but it’s stiff. So like you said, malleable doesn’t quite work. I have to, if I pack a bunch of stuff, it is like confined to that litreage. Whereas you can probably overpack a duffel a little better. And yeah, and then maybe I don’t have a backpack and a rolly I can put everything I need into the into the duffel. So it’s like an all in one that might be better for travel. But that means I don’t have a bag to go under the front seat. And I don’t get access to like, my millions of gadgets.

 

Georgie  17:12  

Yeah, I mean, this is why I think I like something like your bag. It’s because there’s like also all the compartments, right? You have—

 

Geoff  17:18  

Yeah, the shelving, the shelves move around.

 

Georgie  17:20  

Which you don’t get in a rolly suitcase. It’s just the whole fucking lid. And I don’t—I’m sorry, but I don’t believe in packing cubes because I’m a fucking idiot.

 

Geoff  17:29  

Oh, packing cubes are great!

 

Georgie  17:32  

Yeah, okay, I gotta roast the packing cubes. I think they’re—

 

Geoff  17:34  

The packing cubes?! So okay, I’ve got—

 

Georgie  17:38  

All right.

 

Geoff  17:38  

...a packing cube. I’ve got a packing cube, here we go, chain, like there was a desk at the at the at the conference the other day. I don’t even, and I don’t know when this is gonna be like released, but there was a conference. And there was like—

 

Georgie  17:51  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  17:52  

You know that, you know, that table that says like, “change my mind”. Like that guy on YouTube who just sits up in the middle of public and he’s just like, he does says something controversial, change my mind.

 

Georgie  18:04  

Oh yeah.

 

Geoff  18:05  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  18:05  

I haven’t seen that in a while. But yeah, I think yeah, I know what you’re talking about. Yeah.

 

Geoff  18:09  

Here’s my chance to change your mind on this. All right. So my packing cube has two sides to it. Right? One side has a mesh. One side is sealed. Like see like solid like fabric? That’s all kujlike plastic of some sort. And the idea here is that dirty stuff go on the sealed side and clean stuff go on the on the mesh side.

 

Georgie  18:33  

Yes.

 

Geoff  18:34  

You get a laundry bag in built to a packing cube. And—

 

Georgie  18:40  

Yes...

 

Geoff  18:40  

It’s really good. Like you wear something, you put it on the other side so it doesn’t smell but you have it on the mesh side that has airy breeziness. How about that?

 

Georgie  18:51  

No. Okay, do you know what I do? Okay, before we continue with more like points to like, convince me—this is what I do with my fucking like dirty laundry. Like in the, in the rolly suitcase. There’s like a zippered part under the lid. I just shove all the dirty stuff in there.

 

Geoff  19:08  

Oh you just shove it in there!

 

Georgie  19:11  

And I give no fucks right, so I don’t know, look, generally I’m a pretty organised person, but you know me I fucking like hey—what do I say—storage is a trap. And I feel like travel like packing cubes fall into that somehow.

 

Geoff  19:25  

Oh man, that, okay, that’s fair enough. You don’t want to like increase complexity for something that you literally just throw into a section of your bag. You don’t need it, you technically don’t need it.

 

Georgie  19:37  

(laughs) Yeah, like the reason I put it in there is because it’s just like, I’m never gonna see this for the rest of my trip because these are smelly socks, bye. Like. Granted, I do like the idea of dividing stuff. So I like a backpack, you know, with compartments and things like that.

 

Geoff  19:53  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  19:53  

Which I don’t really have. So that would be nice.

 

Geoff  19:56  

I don’t know how much litreage this backpack is—oh you can get a 30 litre—no, not 30 litre. You can get like, what’s, there’s a small, medium, large or whatever. But yeah, you can get my backpack and you can have it at the 20—oh, it’s serious. My backpack is not 20 litres, no! No way is it 20! Anyway, so you can get a 20 or 30. And you can try and cram your entire life in there if you’d like.

 

Georgie  20:22  

I will try it. One day. Like I actually want to get a backpack. I’m so, I’m sick of the, like I love my rolly suitcase, at the same time, I’m like, I like to have a break maybe, from this? I don’t know.

 

Geoff  20:33  

Haha, break from rolling your suitcase. It fits my 16 inch MacBook. So at the smallest—

 

Georgie  20:39  

Oh my god. Thank you. Because look, can I go on a little rant? Right? So, oh my god, I don’t even—views are mine, not my employer.

 

Geoff  20:48  

(laughs)

 

Georgie  20:49  

I have a 16 inch MacBook for for work—or is it 15, sorry, it’s 15, isn’t it? Fifteen but basically the screen is—

 

Geoff  20:57  

Largest is 16 but—

 

Georgie  20:58  

But yeah, the big the big one. It was like, I think it’s the M1. And I’m not a fan, right. And I’ve never really been a fan on the bigger laptops, just because I’m a fucking small person. And I just don’t fucking like it. But way back, we had this guy who used to work in ops, he’s no longer with the company. And this really shitted me, I guess I can say this, because I’m not gonna name the person—

 

Geoff  21:18  

Haha, it’s been like decades, right?

 

Georgie  21:19  

They’ve gone. Nah it’s been like, a few years. But I wanted a 13 inch MacBook. And I had one. But then even the most fully specced out 13 inch MacBook just wasn’t—like it was slow. It would like really struggle with what we like, whatever, fuck, see—every company is different, right? But for our particular, what do you call it? Um, tech stack, blah, blah. It was not quite enough. So that was the reason why I needed to get the 15 inch, but no one like tells you this when you start. They just say you can get any computer you want. They don’t necessarily give you details about the, you know—

 

Geoff  21:59  

They usually say “Mac or PC”. And you’re like, Mac and then you just wait for whatever they give you.

 

Georgie  22:07  

Yeah, anyway, I had the—yeah, so I had the 13 inch, and there was, and then I had to go and get the 15 inch. So obviously my 13 inch went back into the cycle of you know, and most of the 13 inch MacBooks go to like product managers or people who don’t need to like develop. And this guy said to me, because I mentioned I wanted a smaller laptop because I just hate lugging around this piece of shit. And I literally don’t have a bag, I have to get a special fucking bag to fit my—see, I have to buy another thing if I want to like travel and shit, I have to buy a whole other like bag because the one I have is 13 inch because it fits my personal one. And so like it could fit my work one but it just doesn’t. And he literally said to me, it’s really, “it’s a privilege for you to pick a smaller laptop”. And I was like what the fuck? Like, I don’t know, just like, I get it. I get where he was coming from, but it’s just that, that comment like shitted me.

 

Geoff  23:02  

It’s like, it’s, it’s like we’re all bloody privileged, like—

 

Georgie  23:07  

As it is.

 

Geoff  23:07  

As it is. Yeah, actually, I was having somewhat of a similar conversation with someone at the conference where they were like we’re trying to sell somebody else on the bag, on a bag. They were, they were saying, you know, what, you know, you know, they actually tried to look at every possible bag, women’s bags to be specific, that could fit a 16 inch laptop. And the number is five or something like that. Like—

 

Georgie  23:10  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  23:11  

The number of ergonomic few, like women’s bags that can fit a 16 inch laptop is very, very few. They did a tweet thread about it or something like that.

 

Georgie  23:40  

Oh my god, can you find it and send it to me. I completely understand this. Yeah.

 

Geoff  24:01  

Anyways, so when when she was talking about the bag that she was wearing, like this is like, like one of the best ones. Anyway, so yeah, there’s not very many out there that that can hold 16 inch laptops comfortably. I don’t know how to get there. No, I don’t want to go to that. Anyways, yeah, I’ll find it.

 

Georgie  24:36  

Yeah. You can find it for me later.

 

Geoff  24:39  

So yeah. Take what you can get, if you have 16 inch laptops, there’s there’s only there’s only a few bags that can that can really solve the problem. But then again, like I got a 13 inch laptop at one point and that’s why I have this mega ultra wide like screen is because I was like, oh my god, this laptop’s like tiny. Like because I used to actually sit there on, without a second monitor or any other monitor and just do one monitor on my laptop because it was like 15 or 16 inch.

 

Georgie  25:20  

Yeah, I like I comfortably do that on my work one. I probably couldn’t on a 13 inch maybe. I don’t know. I mean either way, like what I just said is is totally a first world thing. I completely get that. It’s like a first world problem. But it’s just me complaining about when I want to or need to travel.

 

Geoff  25:42  

Definitely. Need to travel? Need to go smaller. And that’s why—

 

Georgie  25:46  

Even just being remote. And then going to the office. I still need to carry the damn thing. Sorry. You were saying?

 

Geoff  25:54  

I still have an, I have the Air for a personal one. I don’t even know if I want to travel with a laptop anymore. Except—

 

Georgie  26:01  

But the Air is so good—oh wait, I have the one after you.

 

Geoff  26:05  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  26:05  

The newer one.

 

Geoff  26:06  

The M2 air or something like that? Yeah, I was thinking like, ooh, can I just like survive on the iPad?

 

Georgie  26:14  

No.

 

Geoff  26:14  

Actually for—

 

Georgie  26:15  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  26:16  

Yeah, but actually, for this upcoming trip, there’s going to be a lot of downtime. So I want to work on my side project at the same time.

 

Georgie  26:24  

High five.

 

Geoff  26:26  

I say upcoming trip, but I mean, like this is gonna be—

 

This probably happened.

 

This probably happened.

 

Georgie  26:30  

It happened five months ago.

 

Geoff  26:32  

Yeah. So—

 

Georgie  26:33  

We don’t even know what year it is.

 

Geoff  26:35  

Yeah, this could be 2027. 2077 even.

 

Georgie  26:40  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  26:44  

So I’ve got a couple of games that are—speaking of Cyberpunk 2077—there are a couple of games that are like coming out this year. That are pretty hype.

 

Georgie  26:55  

What’s this year?

 

Geoff  26:57  

This year being—

 

Georgie  26:59  

2077.

 

Geoff  26:59  

2023. Oh my god, there’s a Harry Potter gamer chair. What the hell? No.

 

Georgie  27:06  

Not my style.

 

Geoff  27:08  

This is crazy. Like it’s a bit interesting because there’s, there’s like being a lot of key, like there’s key caps, like Lord of the Rings style key caps and stuff like that. I’m like, Is it is it really like, is, this seems very... I don’t know. I don’t like—

 

Georgie  27:25  

To you it’s unnecessary.

 

Geoff  27:26  

I don’t like yeah, I don’t like branded, and like—

 

Georgie  27:29  

I hate. Yeah. I hate branded things.

 

Geoff  27:31  

...heavily branded things. Like, do you really need a Harry Potter chair? I mean, I guess I’m not a collector. But yeah, this stuff really? They really? Like, narrow in on like—

 

Georgie  27:49  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  27:50  

With products gets a bit... what do you call it? Tacky. That’s the word.

 

Georgie  27:55  

I think if you are a big fan of something, you know, and maybe you have a room or you have a lot of things in your life that are themed like a certain way, then you know, probably, probably this would appeal to you. But not for me.

 

Geoff  28:11  

A whole chair though, I don’t know, I think goes a bit far. I wonder how much money it’s costing them to do this too, like, look how custom this is.

 

Georgie  28:21  

And each chair is like 800 plus dollars.

 

Geoff  28:24  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  28:25  

It’s quite expensive.

 

Geoff  28:27  

And Star Wars is unavailable. Because I guess Endor. Oh, that’s kind of cool. I kinda like the idea that you’re like sitting in a like a cockpit chair. But yeah.

 

Georgie  28:41  

So that’s cool. But the Harry Potter one just had Harry Potter on it.

 

Geoff  28:46  

Yeah, that’s that’s the thing. That’s the thing I was trying to get at. I like I like canonically themed things. Like, if the show is about spaceships, and you made a chair that looks like the chair in that spaceship. That looks, that’s great. I think like that’s, that’s like cool stuff. You sold this ring, you know, the Lord of the Rings, the actual ring, the Lord of the Rings, The One Ring that you can buy, that I would like—

 

Georgie  29:15  

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

 

Geoff  29:16  

That stuff makes sense. But you just slap a logo on something like hey, here’s $800 and slap the logo on it—Supreme is I guess the spicy example for that. Anyways, what was my point? All right. We were talking about Harry—

 

Georgie  29:35  

Games coming out.

 

Geoff  29:37  

Games, right. So there’s a Harry Potter open world game called Hogwarts Legacy. Are you a high Potter fan?

 

Georgie  29:44  

No, not really. No I’m not.

 

Geoff  29:45  

Did you‚

 

Georgie  29:46  

I know about it though?

 

Geoff  29:48  

...read the books?

 

Georgie  29:48  

I’ve read the first book. I’ve seen kind of all the movies. I’ve been to the Harry Potter world or whatever it is at Universal in London. So like I know about I just, I, I’m not really like a fan.

 

Geoff  30:01  

Yeah, that’s fair. But they’ve made an open world video game based on like Harry Potter, which I think a lot of people have been waiting for.

 

Georgie  30:10  

Because I think I played one of the games before I can’t remember when but it’s—

 

Geoff  30:14  

Really old one.

 

Georgie  30:14  

I guess it’s not open world. Is this like the first open world? But.

 

Geoff  30:18  

Yeah, Harry Potter has had a lot of video games hasn’t it? So generally, when it comes to Harry Potter games, they like lock you in the castle, and you kind of just like, roam around the castle.

 

Georgie  30:31  

Oh, yeah yeah.

 

Geoff  30:32  

And that’s it. Um, collecting beans and shit. But now they’ve made an actual like open world one where you can travel the world, like you can exit the castle, you can free roam around, like, like the mythical world and all that stuff. So I think it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be pretty interesting.

 

Georgie  30:56  

I think I remember seeing a video about this actually, I think someone like got maybe early access or something or they were looking at the trailers or, was there a really long trailer where it was like super detailed? Yeah, I think I saw that. And it was like, really impressive. Because when you compare it to like, I think maybe the movies and the books, it’s very, like accurate.

 

Geoff  31:18  

I’d like to maybe be able to just strike up a battle with anyone I want, just like throw a spell at them. But they won’t let me.

 

Georgie  31:26  

We love open world.

 

Geoff  31:27  

Yeah, I don’t think they’ll allow it. But that reminds me of Need for Speed. They had a, they had a video game and they have this mechanic where you’re just on the street. And then you roll up next to a car that game to race you and you just go for it. You just street race them right there. And then I think that’s so cool. But I’ve been playing Pokemon lately. So it’s probably gonna be a while since until I, get on to any other game because I don’t like having like a bunch of games lying around not being played. It’s expensive.

 

Georgie  32:00  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  32:01  

Games are $100. Now, a pop.

 

Georgie  32:05  

I don’t actually play many games. But I feel like because everything is digitised and like the way it’s changed, I’ve also just kind of lost interest.

 

Geoff  32:13  

Yeah, that’s fair enough. I mean, you may you mainly just watch Nick play, right?

 

Georgie  32:20  

Yeah, it’s actually very interesting watching like, people play, although I’m not really into like Twitch streaming or whatever. But the one I really enjoyed watching was I think he was playing one of the Spider Man ones.

 

Geoff  32:32  

Oh, yeah, I’ve got that one, yeah.

 

Georgie  32:34  

Yeah, it was, I don’t know. Just the whole story I found was quite interesting.

 

Geoff  32:38  

It’s like a movie.

 

Georgie  32:40  

Yeah, yeah. I think that’s it. Yeah, it reads like a movie, that that one in particular.

 

Geoff  32:46  

Yeah, it really does. But yeah. This this come, this year. Not coming year, this year, is gonna be, it’s gonna it’s gonna have quite a few games. I think I’m gonna be trying not to buy all of them when they release and just like buying maybe one every three months because it takes me forever to finish video games. I don’t, I don’t sit here and just play until the end.

 

Georgie  33:14  

Because it’s not your job.

 

Geoff  33:15  

Yeah, it’s not my job. Like God of War is—

 

Georgie  33:18  

You’re not a content creator.

 

Geoff  33:20  

Yeah God of War was a big one.

 

Georgie  33:21  

You’re not a Twitch streamer.

 

Geoff  33:22  

No, no. To the contrary to popular belief, if someone looked at what my, what my computer setup is, they’d probably think I was a Twitch streamer.

 

That’s funny, but yeah.

 

Georgie  33:38  

I’m totally not into plants. But you can see like, there’s there’s like five of them.

 

Geoff  33:42  

You’re just surrounded. How do you even get out of the room?

 

Georgie  33:46  

I know. I’m in a jungle now.

 

Geoff  33:50  

Completely different tangent. So I heard a fact that I had not heard before and apparently is really well known.

 

Georgie  33:57  

Alright. Tell me.

 

Geoff  34:00  

15 minutes... Yeah. 15 minutes of morning sun, specifically morning sun, helps you sleep at night. And I had not fact checked this.

 

Georgie  34:13  

Okay, I haven’t heard this one. I haven’t heard this one, no.

 

Geoff  34:17  

Because it goes like, improve sleep. “Sunshine regulates your circadian rhythm by telling your body when to increase and decrease your melatonin levels. So the more daylight exposure you can get, the better for your body will produce melatonin when it’s time to go to sleep”.

 

Georgie  34:33  

So I knew that.

 

Geoff  34:35  

“Bright light in the morning will make you feel sleepy and fall asleep earlier in the evening.” Interesting. Getting bright light shortly after waking up may help you feel more alert. Wait, this is posted on April 1st 2020. Is this just a joke?

 

Georgie  34:52  

Oh!

 

Geoff  34:53  

Is it a joke by the circadian rhythm government. Yeah, centre for—the CDC. The CDC published an article on April 1st—

 

Georgie  35:04  

No, it says reviewed.

 

Geoff  35:06  

Okay, so it was reviewed as a joke. So yeah, that’s really interesting. “Circadian clock is most sensitive to light about two hours before usual bedtime throughout the night, one hour after the usual wake up time in the morning”. So yeah, back to the whole sleeping thing or like, what the hell do you do? Well, seems like you just get 15 minutes of sunlight.

 

Georgie  35:29  

So I gotta admit, and I think I’ve admitted this before on the podcast, but I do not have this first world problem.

 

Geoff  35:36  

Yeah that’s true.

 

Georgie  35:37  

I sleep, actually, a funny story. Quite recently, like, I was, I was, I was, I was in bed, like, going to go to sleep. And then Nick was going to, Nick went to use the bathroom before going, coming to bed. And I, I feel like he took I feel like he took ages. But he comes back and gets in bed. And then I’m like, “hey, why aren’t you giving me a hug?” And he said, “Well, you’re already asleep”. I’m like, “No, I’m not. I’m awake”. I was kind of falling asleep. And he’s like, “Dude, you fall asleep in like 10 seconds”. Like, he’s kind of right. Like, that is that is me, like my whole life. I have to say, I feel very grateful that I’ve pretty much hardly ever had problems with like, insomnia or whatever. Even when I had very little sleep like during uni and stuff. Just falling asleep has never been a problem for me.

 

Geoff  36:27  

Yes, so generally, you can like sleep at any time?

 

Georgie  36:35  

Yeah, so like, if you said to me, hey, I, I could say to you now, Geoff, I’m gonna go and take a seven minute nap on the couch. Like I would—

 

Geoff  36:41  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  36:42  

I would do it.

 

Geoff  36:42  

My partner’s the same.

 

Georgie  36:43  

Like. But I have to say about the bright light in my current apartment, which we moved in, like a while ago, like a year ago, wherever. It has so much more bright light, like natural light coming through the windows because you have a whole extra window on the side compared to our previous apartment where we lived for several years. And that was like really dark in comparison. And I genuinely feel like it improved my mental health, which I think probably also kind of relates to just like sleep quality as well.

 

Geoff  37:14  

Yeah, yeah. You crobably sleep any time but your quality of sleep could be improved by this one quick, easy step you can probably put into a TikTok or a Reel. But yeah, oh man—

 

Georgie  37:30  

Subscribe to my newsletter.

 

Geoff  37:34  

Subscribe to my two minute newsletter, twenty-second newsletter. Actually, I now distinctly remember something that we’ll quickly dive into for the next like two minutes. But I, I saw—

 

Georgie  37:50  

That’s barely a dive.

 

Geoff  37:51  

(laughs) It’s like splashing in the shallow.

 

Georgie  37:55  

Tread water.

 

Geoff  37:57  

I saw this TikTok, or was it a Reel, or was it whatever, Instagram story, of something static. Like, it was a video of a picture. And I’m like—

 

Georgie  38:11  

Oh, did it have music?

 

Geoff  38:13  

Nope. I don’t know actually. Either way it’s ridiculous that we’ve gotten to the point that Reels, stories, or whatever, are so like, popular or that like people be, like they’ve seen loads of engagement for these little short videos that people are now taking videos of photos. Yeah.

 

Georgie  38:36  

The thing I think I noticed was I think more people just posting on Instagram, a picture, but they’re putting music to it. And so it’s like static, but it’s got audio, and I’m like huh, but why?

 

Geoff  38:48  

Make you feel the photo? Make you feel like you were there. So yeah, that I found ridiculous. Honestly. Photos are now in Reels, Stories, whatever, just to get the eyes back, just to get the eyes back. But I have been taking a lot more photos and posting again on Instagram. I know, scandalous.

 

Georgie  39:13  

Scandalous.

 

Geoff  39:13  

Yes.

 

Georgie  39:14  

It’s a cycle.

 

Geoff  39:16  

It’s a cycle.

 

Georgie  39:16  

A cycle.

 

Geoff  39:17  

When I get a good camera on a phone. I’ve dented my phone by the way by dropping it.

 

Georgie  39:21  

Ah, shit.

 

Geoff  39:24  

So Apple Care Plus, or getting a case? I think I’ll get a case but for travel, I don’t know about every day but to be honest, I’ve dropped this like three times already, it’s dented the leg of my desk before it dented.

 

Georgie  39:43  

Oh. Wow.

 

Geoff  39:44  

The, my phone didn’t dent, it just chipped my my desk. So it’s pretty strong. So yeah, stay tuned. I may have gotten a case before you even listen to this podcast. So be prepared for a Fast and Furious reverse storyline?

 

Georgie  40:08  

How many movies do they have now?

 

Geoff  40:10  

Oh god, I think they have like 10 or 11.

 

Georgie  40:13  

Gotta be 10, right?

 

Geoff  40:15  

Furious... Yeah, I think Fast 9. Fast and Furious.

 

Georgie  40:22  

I think I remember there being a 9, but then I don’t remember there being a 10, but I can assume there are 10 because—

 

Geoff  40:27  

2023!

 

Georgie  40:28  

Wait, where?

 

Geoff  40:30  

Fast X.

 

Georgie  40:32  

X?

 

Geoff  40:32  

Yep.

 

Georgie  40:33  

Gross.

 

Geoff  40:33  

Fast X. That’s disgusting. Next thing they’ll do Fast 10S.

 

Georgie  40:37  

(laughs) Yeah, I thought of the, I thought of the iPhone too.

 

Geoff  40:45  

Oh my god. Jason Momoa joins the cast, of course. Didn’t—Brie Larson. Oh my god. April 20th, 2022. Hooray.

 

Georgie  41:01  

That’s when they start filming.

 

Geoff  41:01  

Began on 22nd.

 

Georgie  41:05  

May 19. May 19 will be released

 

Geoff  41:07  

Oh May 19.

 

Georgie  41:08  

In 2023.

 

Geoff  41:09  

So yeah, that is joy. Wait. No way. The film—wait, Fast 7? Furious 7 is after the events of Fast and Furious 6 and continues from the ending of Tokyo Drift! What? Who? What? Huh?

 

Georgie  41:28  

Oh, wait, no. But if you look at, if you look at 6 it says it is before Tokyo Drift.

 

Geoff  41:33  

Six is before Tokyo Drift. And then 7’s after Tokyo Drift. What’s going on? I stopped at 5.

 

Georgie  41:41  

I think—I think that’s why when you typed into Google, it said in order as one of the recommendations for the autocomplete.

 

Geoff  41:48  

Again, we have to visit our order, Fast and Furious order. Holy crap. I didn’t think I had to do this in my lifetime. “How to watch Fast and Furious movie order 2022”. Oh my god. Anyways, that’s the end of this podcast. I will probably go watch more Fast and Furious because I like the Tokyo Drift.

 

Georgie  42:09  

No, don’t do it.

 

Geoff  42:11  

I like the Tokyo Drift. Oh my god, it’s 67% on Rotten Tomatoes.

 

Georgie  42:16  

That’s what I was gonna say, all of the, yeah, the ratings are not super great.

 

Geoff  42:19  

81 is actually not bad on Fast 7, probably because Tokyo Drift was involved. You can follow us on @toastroastpod on Twitter. Not Mastodon yet, maybe? Who knows, we might change our mind before this podcast.

 

Georgie  42:36  

We’re not doing it. We don’t jump on bandwagons.

 

Geoff  42:41  

(laughs) Not a bandwagon.

 

Georgie  42:41  

You can find the episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. Is there another thing? Nah, just wherever you listen to podcasts. And the big, I’m gonna say tomato, because we’re looking at Rotten Tomatoes.

 

Geoff  42:56  

Nice. New episodes every Monday. So see you next week.

 

Georgie  43:01  

See you next week.

 

Geoff  43:02  

Bye!