For our last episode of 2022, we try and peruse the most controversial things in 2022 but end up discussing social media gripes, recycling unwanted items, and whether occasionwear is really necessary.
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For our last episode of 2022, we try and peruse the most controversial things in 2022 but end up discussing social media gripes, recycling unwanted items, and whether occasionwear is really necessary.
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Toast & Roast:
Georgie:
Geoff:
Geoff 0:00
Hi and welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host Geoff and as always got the co host Georgie in the hot seat, because mine is cold.
Georgie 0:25
Oh, okay. Speaking of hot seat, not that this has anything to do with hot seat. But I think this is our last episode of the year. So it’s anything you want to put in the hot seat to roast?
Geoff 0:36
Ooh, final year roasts. Let’s have a look back in time, January. Anything spicy in January? Well—
Georgie 0:47
I don’t actually—
Geoff 0:48
Pick up hot topics in 2022. And we can like—
Georgie 0:53
I don’t know if I even think of the year in months anymore. I feel like I used to when I—
Geoff 0:59
Quarters.
Georgie 0:59
More on my blog and... Yeah, yeah. So it’s all a big mishmash?
Geoff 1:08
Yeah, see trending topics are 2022 and 23. We haven’t even gotten there yet. All right, well this is the boring US stuff. But do you think of the year in quarters? Like are you financially inclined?
Georgie 1:23
Well, the thing that, the thing that makes me think quarters is the fact that we have like locally, we have a quarterly recycling event where like the depot, the actual depot, accepts... Also I’m pretty sure in the US you pronounce it de-po? Like Home Depot. Anyway.
Geoff 1:44
Or silent P, de-oat?
Georgie 1:46
What?
Geoff 1:48
Like silent P, de-oat.
Georgie 1:51
I’ve never heard of that before. So there’s a recycling event where you can—
Geoff 1:54
Baptiste technically ba-tiste? I think they’ve got like a silent P in the name Baptiste.
Georgie 1:59
Oh really?
Geoff 2:00
Yeah, I think... Baptiste pronounciation. Anyways, continue with your thought.
Georgie 2:10
Yeah. So there’s a quarterly recycling event where you can drop off your electronic waste, which is really good, any like soft plastics and whatnot. And obviously any other like, toys and clothes that are still in good condition. And they all, they they all deal with that. And funnily enough, every three months, so, a quarter, comes by pretty quickly. And we’re like, Oh, there’s another recycling event? What other electronic waste, and I don’t know, like broken razors on toothbrushes and televisions or whatever, like, can I get rid of this time? So yeah.
Geoff 2:47
Yeah, apparently they stopped it in my partner’s like, local government area. They kind of stopped it for the COVID stuff. So their parents just got like a whole bunch like stocked up. They haven’t started it again.
Georgie 3:01
Oh.
Geoff 3:02
Yeah.
Georgie 3:02
Do they not have a COVID, a COVID-safe like, way of doing it? Because ours you drive up in your car to like stop—
Geoff 3:12
This is like collection.
Georgie 3:15
Sorry?
Geoff 3:16
Like a collection like a truck comes up to your place.
Georgie 3:19
Oh, you book one in? Okay. Nah?
Geoff 3:23
Yeah. Or they every, every period so they would come over and pick up your stuff and then leave. That’s way better than having to take your things to a different place.
Georgie 3:36
It’s not like we have heaps and it’s not such a bother and we still have, I think you said you have them as well in your apartment building, just this area where she just gets dumped. Yeah.
Geoff 3:49
Electronic. I don’t think electronic waste gets collected from that. Oh, right. Right, that area, the triangle, the triangle of Bermuda. But yeah, Tik Tok ads is number one topic trending?
Georgie 4:03
Tik Tok ads?
Geoff 4:05
Tik Tok ads.
Georgie 4:08
I did do a little—
Geoff 4:10
Yeah?
Georgie 4:12
I was gonna say I did a little hot take on on the on the Twitter, about about Instagram Reels and Tik Tok the other day. It was more from the point of accessibility of some of the, the one that really grinds my gears is the, and I know, I’m fully aware that some of these trends and so people kind of do them for marketing purposes or whatever. So you know, you want more engagement, blah, blah. But as a person who doesn’t really have any difficulty generally like processing information, still, the style of having someone in a video doing a lip sync to like some audio from a film or something like that. But then on top of that, they have a commentary for the, so they’re saying something and you’re hearing something they’re saying, lip synching to something that you hear, but what is on, on the screen is completely different. I cannot process that. So it’s like someone may be quoting something from, for example, Friends. And then the, the text on the screen is actually like, “what I think of my dad” or something. It’s like, the whole video is supposed to be maybe a kind of a meme or a joke for a certain situation, but then the situation is described in text on the screen. So it’s like two completely different contexts.
Geoff 5:27
Oh, my God. It’s kinda like, when we were talking about how the, whatchama call it, the thumbnail, and the text and the thumbnail don’t match up.
Georgie 5:41
Yeah. Exactly. It’s kind of. It’s kinda like that, but except you’re watching a bloody video in real time. And I’m fully aware that some of these things are either forced by the platform or there’s inaccessible things that are a result of the platform’s lack of accessible features, but it’s still, argh.
Geoff 6:02
Yeah, I think this Tik Tok ads was is leaning towards how the different ad platforms handle payments. So if people don’t know, Tik Tok, and similar to I think Instagram and YouTube shorts, so how creators make money is ads. But it’s not as clear as YouTube ads where you’re watching a YouTube video, you see the ad and that ads revenue goes to, X amount of that revenue goes to the creator that made the video. In Tik Tok, they have created a budget, they’re like, all right, for all of the Tik Tokkers. On our platform, we have a signed $1 million. Right. So people who have more views than the other ones or whatever, I guess they decided to do a split. That’s the split $1 million gets split up among amongst however many Tik Tokkers there are. So what they haven’t done is increased that amount to the same rate as the amount of Tik Tokkers there are, so now there’s—
Georgie 7:21
Oh, yeah. So you get paid like zero—
Geoff 7:23
10 million!
Georgie 7:23
Point zero two cents.
Geoff 7:25
Exactly, you have ten million Tik Tokkers, $1 million. Like—
Georgie 7:29
Yeah, I think we covered this just briefly, because I think Hank Green did a kind of deep dive into exactly how this works. Yeah. Got to find it. But yeah.
Geoff 7:41
So that was that’s number one. Number one. Oura ring.
Georgie 7:47
What is that?
Geoff 7:48
Look up the Oura ring? I feel like I knew kinda what it is. But also do not know what it is.
Georgie 7:56
Is this accurate health?
Geoff 7:58
The company... Smart ring used to track sleep and physical activity? So they’re just like condensing everything into a ring.
Georgie 8:06
Ew? Why does this like feel wrong? Is this good or bad?
Geoff 8:15
It’s probably not accurate. Why is it, why was it trending? Let’s go with Oura ring controversy, because there’s always a controversy. Accuracy isn’t guaranteed. Well, no shit. It’s a ring.
Georgie 8:28
Yeah, so Wikipedia says, a test on this, a test on the second generation ring found that on average, the sleep tracking feature was only 58.9% accurate. However, their third generation ring has shown significantly better accuracy and sleep tracking, making it one of the most accurate wearables.
Geoff 8:46
No way.
Georgie 8:48
I still don’t really care. The Apple Watch?
Geoff 8:52
Yeah, we touched on this a little bit where I think we talked about this guy who does all of the like exercises to to test the Apple watch to see if it’s accurate. I’d be curious to know if he did one for the ring. Yeah, to be honest, I’ve been tracking my sleep. And like, I see the average amount of hours and I’m like, Well, okay, how do I improve any of this? There’s really nothing too—
Georgie 9:24
Actionable?
Geoff 9:25
Yeah, it’s nothing actionable. I’m like, okay, my average is down. All right, what do I do? Sleep earlier? Sleep late, like sleep in? What?
Georgie 9:37
Yeah, actually, you have a good point. Like I look at it. I’m like, “very interesting”. And then I could see like the steps in the cycle over sleeping one night and I’m like, that’s cool. I don’t know, I think the most I get is like I can gauge an idea of maybe how quality my sleep was. But also I gauge that by like how I feel when I wake up, if I had a shit sleep, I know that, you know. If I’ve had a good sleep I will wake up and regardless of how many hours I’ve slept, I feel refreshed.
Geoff 10:06
Yeah, it does this whole thing where it shows you you know, your REM, your deep, your light, and I’m thinking this is bad, like is, did I not get enough REM? Did I not get enough deep? How do I fix that? Like seriously?
Georgie 10:23
It’s still interesting.
Geoff 10:24
So yeah, it’s good. I mean wearing a ring to bed? I don’t know, I wear the watch to bed now, I guess.
Georgie 10:31
Yeah.
Geoff 10:33
So yeah.
Georgie 10:33
Well, I don’t, I don’t wear my wedding ring and stuff. I don’t wear them all the time.
Geoff 10:40
How do you know you’re still married when you wake up?
Georgie 10:42
I know. Travesty. Being married is a feeling, not a bloody thing on my ring, uh, thing on my ring—thing on my finger.
Geoff 10:53
Yeah, yeah. So we’re watching King of Queens, have you heard of it?
Georgie 10:58
King of what?
Geoff 10:59
King of Queens.
Georgie 11:00
No, I haven’t heard of it.
Geoff 11:02
So what do you actually what do you think from just the title? What do you think it’s about?
Georgie 11:08
Now that you’ve said that I feel like what I originally thought has, okay, so what I originally thought was like, must be about something royal. And then you said now what do I think from the title, and I’m like, well, is it? Does it involve like, LGBTQIA plus people? Because it’s King of Queens. It just sounds like it might?
Geoff 11:31
Be, because you had the reaction of not quite understanding what that was. It told me that it may, then it made me think.
Georgie 11:39
Yeah.
Geoff 11:39
Like. Oh, actually, it doesn’t sound like a show that I, that I’m watching.
Georgie 11:45
Would watch? Right? Like it doesn’t sound like something you’d watch?
Geoff 11:50
Not something that I wouldn’t watch something. But the thing is, I know what I’m watching and it’s called King of Queens. But now that I think out of context, if you don’t know what the show is, the title can be misleading to LGBTQ.
Georgie 12:02
Is it about chess?
Geoff 12:05
No, actually, that’s a really good one too. Like, all these different things.
Georgie 12:10
People are listening this going, what the fuck is Georgie on?
Geoff 12:15
But it’s actually about a truck driver. Is a delivery. Delivery guy.
Georgie 12:21
Oh.
Geoff 12:22
Who delivers things in Queens? Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 12:25
Oh my god. That’s the best—okay now maybe. Now it actually sounds like something that is interesting.
Geoff 12:33
Yeah.
Georgie 12:34
Is it like doco? Is it like, doco style, or like?
Geoff 12:38
It’s just a fun family comedy. It’s about this guy. Doug and his wife, Carrie, who have the father in law move into their house. And it’s just their daily life. And it’s just antics really. There’s a crossover just recently, the Ray Romano from Everybody Loves Raymond.
Georgie 13:03
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 13:04
Yeah, he did a cameo. Anyways, watching this show, and I completely forgot what we were talking about. Shit. What we were talking about?
Georgie 13:18
Tik Tok and then we’re talking about...
Geoff 13:20
Tik Tok, Oura ring.
Georgie 13:21
The rings.
Geoff 13:22
The ring? Oh, right. So so there’s a story here where where they go to a jeweller. And they find out that the the engagement ring, which was apparently slightly questionably designed to had like a butterfly diamond or whatever, was appreciated in value over the time they were married. So he had paid maybe, I don’t know $3,000 for it, and now it was worth 12,000 or $13,000. So they make the decision to hawk it. Right, like the jeweller bought it from them for $13,000. She got a different ring. And and they were had so many mixed feelings about it. Because before they wanted to sell it they were like, like, what’s what’s her name, Carrie, was saying that she actually didn’t really like the design at all. She didn’t tell her husband this, but she said it, and then the husband obviously wants to sell it because it’s $13,000 so they’re like tiptoeing around each other because because they both want to sell it but they don’t want to say they both want to sell it.
Georgie 14:39
Yeah.
Geoff 14:41
So they end up selling it and then she’s like, Oh no, have we like just like jumped to selling something so much meaning and, and yeah, would you sell your engagement ring is I guess the ultimate question?
Georgie 14:58
Oh, would I sell mine?
Geoff 14:59
Would you sell it?
Georgie 15:00
Mine? No?
Geoff 15:03
Even if it was 10 times the worth.
Georgie 15:06
Well, I don’t. Okay, so I don’t actually know exactly how much it is because I’m not allowed quote unquote, I’m not allowed to know.
Geoff 15:14
It’s three month’s salary. Right? Isn’t that standard?
Georgie 15:16
(laughs) Don’t tell people how much we earn! No, I don’t know. I guess it’s just it just never crossed my mind. Right. And it’s like, what is what is this about? Like, this is about me just getting a bunch of money because?
Geoff 15:29
Yeah, I guess it’s really hard for us.
Georgie 15:33
Yeah.
Geoff 15:34
Anyways, because they’re, they’re like, lower middle class.
Georgie 15:37
Yeah. Well—
Geoff 15:39
It makes like a bit of a difference.
Georgie 15:41
Well, look, in their case, I would say maybe then the item should actually have even more sentimental meaning because, okay, if this if he obtained the ring and like, traditional manner of like, he saved up for it to propose to her and whatnot, is that you know, then it’s like, oh, he worked really hard for this. Even though it is quote, unquote, to some people just just a ring or whatever.
Geoff 16:07
Yeah.
Georgie 16:08
So I feel like it maybe doesn’t necessarily just symbolize a like a marriage or whatever it was shows that somebody’s married or engaged, but it’s also like, he had to spend a lot of money and work hard if you from like, lower socioeconomic class to spend money on a piece of jewellery. Although, you know, if you want to give your future partner a paper ring, or whatever, you’re not really into jewel—like, it’s it’s very dependent. I feel like. Also this is a TV show so.
Geoff 16:40
Yeah, they would do stuff like selling it off just for the drama. The so they got the they got the new ring, the cheaper one, I guess. And they wanted to re create the moment that he proposed. And, yeah, they got a, see he tried to do everything the same as when he proposed the first time but with the new ring. Where were they? They were at some football game, I guess. And they were sitting in the stands, and he he brought it out and dropped it and he picked it up, put it on her hand. It was freezing. But it was like, summer now that he knew they were trying to do it the same way it was it was like, yeah, like oh, man. That was uh, but they got a different story out of it, I guess.
Georgie 17:30
Yeah.
Geoff 17:33
Another ring thing, I guess. was watching Selling Sunset. I don’t know if you know what that is. Yeah, no Netflix here. Anyways.
Georgie 17:43
Well, I do have it. I just haven’t—dude I haven’t watched Netflix in like months. I probably should like just cancel.
Geoff 17:50
Yes. But quickly, they basically they had a couple—it’s, it follows a real estate agency.
Georgie 18:01
Yeah. Boring!
Geoff 18:02
Yeah, well, they sell houses in Sunset Boulevard, which is in LA. So we’re talking million dollar houses, but to us is more like million dollar apartments, two bedroom apartments. Anyways, they deal with rich, rich and famous people. Some someone in the group got given a cubic zirconia I think.
Georgie 18:28
Yeah.
Geoff 18:29
It’s the quote unquote fake diamond.
Georgie 18:31
Yeah, it’s it’s technically it sparkles a little bit more than... You know, it’s not that’s how you can tell that it’s not real diamond.
Geoff 18:40
Cubic zirconia. Yeah. And then man, the guy like one of them, which is like the bitch of the office essentially, paid, paid the, the guy who gave the colleague a cubic zirconia out for doing it. Just like, oh, didn’t get a real ring. And—
Georgie 19:02
Look, I think it’s comes down to taste.
Geoff 19:05
Yeah.
Georgie 19:06
Like, I have a friend who actually got engaged recently. And she was telling me about her ring and how it’s deliberately not a diamond because she didn’t want anything like that. She wanted, I think it was like a, I think it was like a sapphire, like a grey sapphire. And so when you look at it, it’s kind of like it looks different from different angles. Like it’s slightly grey, it’s slightly blue. And then in some light, it is actually completely clear.
Geoff 19:35
That’s pretty sweet.
Georgie 19:36
She told, yeah, she told her current, her current, she told her fiance before like before he proposed like so he knew she liked it. But yeah. She was also thinking about the wedding ring that she wants with it. And she was talking to the jeweller and she said that there’s the The style that she wanted, which is like that pink one, see the pink one you have on your screen on the right, there’s like a V shape to it, she wants the wedding ring to be like that sort of just the sort of V shape. So it goes under the engagement ring or over the engagement ring and the jeweller said, beware—well not beware, but he said this is actually a bit of a trend. So just keep that in mind. And then I said to her like if you like it, yeah, it is pretty much that. And I said like if you like it just bloody go for it. Right like because even if, and say this about like clothes as well, because I like I like style and expressing myself with clothes is that you can like trendy things because they might actually represent your style, even though they might not be like worn by everybody for many years to come or whatever.
Geoff 20:54
Exactly. She didn’t even know it was a trend. So who cares?
Georgie 20:58
Yeah, she was just like, I like that. And they’re like, it’s a trend, she be like, fuck you.
Geoff 21:05
If anything, if it’s a trend, then it’s gonna go out. And if you still like it for not being a trend, then it’s gonna stick around a lot longer for you.
Georgie 21:16
Yep.
Geoff 21:17
Prime gaming. Well, what was prime gaming? Don’t care.
Georgie 21:22
You know, I want to jump ahead to something down the list. That’s more interesting. I don’t know, side hustle? No, thanks. What’s a drunk elephant?
Geoff 21:31
Drunk elephant? Oh, man. Are we learning things about the about the year before, like without having known? Yeah, are we doing a year wrap up before New Year’s—which is, is that like blasphemous?
Georgie 21:47
No, you can totally do it—actually can you? Well, I don’t know. It’s not blasphemous in my eyes.
Geoff 21:51
What are we gonna do for our new year episode? We’re not gonna have any episode. I’m sorry, everybody.
Georgie 21:56
No. You’re just gonna have to—
Geoff 21:59
Oh Drunk Elephant?
Georgie 22:00
What is this?
Geoff 22:03
Is this just a gift box?
Georgie 22:04
Oh it’s like skincare.
Geoff 22:06
Oh my god.
Georgie 22:07
It’s skincare but I just want to know why it’s called that.
Geoff 22:12
Let’s have a look at an About page. Uh, drunk mag? Our philosophy? Drunk life.
Georgie 22:24
Is it—
Geoff 22:25
“Drunk life is what you make it, Drunk Elephant has always been a lifestyle brand. It’s a growing collection of things have developed over the years that make me happy. And I hope you make yourself well. Welcome to junk life”. Oh, is this like things that she’d like, she likes or he likes or that they like, that they—
Georgie 22:45
Produce?
Geoff 22:46
Buy when drunk?
Georgie 22:47
No, I think this is the name of the this is the name of the brand. But I think somehow the brand has maybe become popular, which is funny, because I’ve never heard of them. But I can’t figure out like, if it’s lifestyle, this could be fucking anything.
Geoff 23:04
I think this is bad.
Georgie 23:04
It’s got bags of skincare.
Geoff 23:06
I think this is bad. Why are you celebrating a drunk life?
Georgie 23:10
The hair massage thing, the head massage thing?
Geoff 23:13
Why are you celebrating drunk life? You shouldn’t be drunk all the time.
Georgie 23:17
I wouldn’t name, like if I had to name my brand. I just refrain from putting that word in it just because I don’t feel comfortable with it.
Geoff 23:27
Yeah, it’s funny cuz we, so my company had a booth at the most recent conference for web developers and designers and product managers, I guess. Anyways, we had a booth. And the idea was to put a lot of attributes, things that make things that you I don’t know, associate yourself with. And there’s lots of badges, right, lots of words on them things like extrovert, introvert, thrill seeker, etc. And there’s one called sober. And I was like, all right, that’s kind of a weird one. I guess I’m sober. I’m always sober.
Georgie 24:10
Because you don’t drink.
Geoff 24:11
Yeah, I’ve never been drunk. And but like, to many people drinking is, you know, a part of life. So if they took the sober one, does that mean they’re just sober now? In which case, they’ll like take it off when they’re not sober?
Georgie 24:27
I think because I know. I’ve heard stories from a couple of people who’ve, who who have drunk a lot, and then it’s impacted their life negatively. So they choose to go sober, which you’ve probably heard before. And so I think that actually means something deeper to them. I think it maybe means like, hey, I’ve gone through like, some terrible stuff with alcoholism or something. And, you know, or it could just be, I don’t drink. So I think both of your experiences like you and a person like that is fine, but maybe it raises the question for anyone who wants to ask you about it.
Geoff 25:01
And that’s just it. My manager was out in San Francisco and they did something similar. And he’s like, hey, I’m sober. I don’t drink, put it on. And a lot of people came up to him congratulating him on being sober. Like, because in America sober means exactly how you described it.
Georgie 25:20
Yeah.
Geoff 25:22
So it was quite interesting. It was definitely interesting.
Georgie 25:27
Yeah, I was gonna say it’s interesting, because I think more and more events like this are trying to be more inclusive and have you know, options for obviously, like, no alcohol, alcohol-free drinks. And sometimes it’s just strange. I find because like, I drink but I, there are times when I just don’t want to. And I know friends who don’t drink and it’s just awkward when someone offers you a drink and you’re like, I don’t drink, so could you wear something similar? So that people, people know not to just offer you a drink?
Geoff 26:00
Well. Yeah. But that was that was yeah, quite interesting. And you know, realised that a lot of people have different meanings so tough these type of things. It was gangbusters though, a lot of people really liked to pick up the badges and I think, a whole like, “they have badges I want badges” type thing started happening.
Georgie 26:26
Yeah I like that.
Geoff 26:27
“Hey, dude, where’d you get those badges, alright I’ll go get some badges too” and it kind of reminded me of I think it went to some kind of I think it was chocolate, the chocolate festival. I think once a year in Sydney—
Georgie 26:41
Hunter Vallet?
Geoff 26:42
Nah, once a year in Sydney, they have a they have a chocolate chocolate festival out in The Rocks. But people were like carrying coconuts. Like full whole coconuts with a straw.
Georgie 26:55
Yeah.
Geoff 26:55
So you’re, they were drinking the coconut.
Georgie 26:58
I love that.
Geoff 26:59
Yeah, I was like, everyone’s got one, I gotta find out where to get one of these coconuts and spent like basically the day trying to look for them. Finally got one and found out that I’m not very fond of coconut, drinking—
Georgie 27:17
What!
Geoff 27:17
...water out of a coconut.
Georgie 27:18
No? Do you like it at all?
Geoff 27:21
I kinda like the flesh a little bit but I feel like—
Georgie 27:24
Like eating—
Geoff 27:25
It’s not sweet enough for me. It’s like it doesn’t doesn’t have a strong coconut flavour.
Georgie 27:30
Are you sure was real? Was it like real from—
Geoff 27:33
It was like a real coconut.
Georgie 27:34
For real.
Geoff 27:35
Like a real coconut, it was all husky and shit.
Georgie 27:37
Because that’s the only shit I will drink. Like, I will not drink the fucking carton shit like coconut water and all the other like, it’s just like, I will only drink it straight from the fucking thing, from the coconut itself.
Geoff 27:52
Yeah.
Georgie 27:52
Air fryer?
Geoff 27:54
Air fryers? Yeah, I think that everyone got an air fryer this year. Except me.
Georgie 28:03
I didn’t get one either.
Geoff 28:04
Did you get do you get one? Alright, well.
Georgie 28:06
Nope.
Geoff 28:07
No. Cash App. Yeah, this is so strange. Like, what? Venmo, Cash App, all these weird apps where you can just send money to each other.
Georgie 28:19
Send money.
Geoff 28:19
Yeah.
Georgie 28:20
Yeah.
Geoff 28:21
I’m not so sure what the cultural significance was, like.
Georgie 28:25
Maybe just gained popularity.
Geoff 28:28
But I wonder why. Like, why would something like this gain popularity? PayPal is out there. Maybe don’t, maybe not everyone likes PayPal fees, don’t understand PayPal? Not cool enough?
Georgie 28:37
I think yeah, it’s not cool enough. That’s what it is.
Geoff 28:40
It doesn’t roll off the tongue like Cash App. “Cash me outside. How about that?” Do you remember that?
Georgie 28:48
Yeah, I remember.
Geoff 28:50
Yeah. For those who don’t know, I won’t dwell on it too much. But it’s just someone who went on to Dr. Phil.
Georgie 28:57
Dr. Phil.
Geoff 28:58
Yeah. And she’s a troubled child, apparently. And she—
Georgie 29:03
As all of the kids on that show usually.
Geoff 29:06
Yeah that’s true.
Georgie 29:07
Yeah.
Geoff 29:08
And she basically said a big F U to Dr. Phil and said, “cash me outside, how about that”. And then that became a huge meme. She got really popular off that she was very, very smart to keep it keep herself relevant after that.
Georgie 29:26
I actually know number 25.
Geoff 29:29
Number 25.
Georgie 29:31
Sezane. It’s actually a French clothing brand. Just kind of funny that it’s there. It’s really popular. They have like as a branch of like men’s clothes as well. Smaller collection obviously. But they’re just like known for their high quality, like classic clothing.
Geoff 29:52
They made carpet into bags. Like—
Georgie 29:59
It’s just the—you mean it’s just the just the the style of the, actually the the shorts I’m wearing are from them and they’re just like the most obnoxious like gold sparkly—
Geoff 30:10
Oh my god that’s ridiculously obnoxious.
Georgie 30:12
Yeah gold shiny party shorts kind of thing with like a leaf print. But yeah also because they’re affordable like they, I would say that almost almost designer level quality but pretty affordable. Like, you know, you still have to save a bit of money but yeah, and they’re pretty popular with like fashion bloggers and YouTubers and things like that.
Geoff 30:34
All right. So speaking of fashion, so we have end of year Christmas parties, right?
Georgie 30:44
(snorts) Is it on a boat?
Geoff 30:46
No, thank God not on a boat.
Georgie 30:48
Oh my god.
Geoff 30:48
But well, the thing is, I had been looking for a reason to get a tailored suit made and I was like okay, not for my company. But for for more formal, more formal one my partner, my partner’s company does. So I was like, okay, you don’t have to wear a suit. Like, but I don’t have anything but jeans and track pants. So.
Georgie 31:14
What’s wrong with, what’s wrong with jeans? Do you have like a button up shirt at all?
Geoff 31:19
Oh, I do have a button up shirt.
Georgie 31:22
Oh, wait, but you’re saying it’s really quite formal.
Geoff 31:25
It’s more formal. Than average formal.
Georgie 31:29
Oh rip.
Geoff 31:29
It’s like smart, smart, casual, but more smart than casual like 70% smart, 30% casual.
Georgie 31:35
Why don’t you just get a blazer?
Geoff 31:37
I don’t have any of these things. Georgie. It, but it’s bloody hot. Why are you thinking of a blazer? Anyways.
Georgie 31:47
You do the linen shirt thing, the linen shirt collared shirt, it’s like, summery, and then just get those dorky ass boat shoes. (snorts)
Geoff 31:56
Yeah, again, all things that I would prefer not to own just for the sake of one party.
Georgie 32:03
Would you be, would you be chided for dressing just the way that you do? Like, would people be like, who the fuck is that? Like, would you actually? Probably not right? Like...
Geoff 32:14
Look, I don’t make the rules up.
Georgie 32:16
Did they have a rule for the, for the dress code?
Geoff 32:20
I don’t make the rules. Anyways, back to my story. I went out and got my, I got a suit measured. And I thought it was quite interesting, right?
Georgie 32:30
Because you’re tiny as fuck.
Geoff 32:33
And yes, because I can’t actually get a suit off the shelf. There’s, there’s just no one who makes a suit my size on the shelf. And so I go, I go to the shop and they they measure me. They measure, like a lot. And then but what was really interesting was the amount of choices I had that I had never really thought about it. So when you get suit pants, you have belt loops. Most pants have belt loops, right? But I have the option of having no belt loops. So I went with the most minimalist thing and got rid of all my belt loops. Right? And then I was like wait a second. And they’re like, oh, wait, they said what about back pockets? And I said wait, I can get rid of back pockets too? Boom, back pocket, pockets, gone, because I don’t need back pockets. And apparently my suit jacket had pocket flaps or something like that, like nah, don’t need that.
Georgie 33:37
Oh, yeah, the bit over that goes over the pocket like slit. Yeah.
Geoff 33:41
Yeah, yeah. Got rid of that.
Georgie 33:43
Yeah I hate those.
Geoff 33:45
So I found it very fun to just like watch this tailor go through all these options and me just removing everything I can.
Georgie 33:53
(laughs)
Geoff 33:55
Yeah, I was like, well, it’s fitted to me. So why do I need a belt.
Georgie 33:59
Yeah.
Geoff 34:00
Has pull tabs though. They replace it with pull tabs.
Georgie 34:03
Oh the foldable side, so if you need to...
Geoff 34:06
Yeah, I think they have like some buttons on the inside. And then you can like you can pull like a bit of elastic. And then you can like notch it to go smaller. Like it fits me now, I don’t think I’m gonna go any smaller. So yeah, I’ve been looking for a reason to get formal wear anyways, so... the kicker, the kicker is, it’s not going to be ready in time.
Georgie 34:34
Oh shit.
Geoff 34:38
So I went to a suit rental place and rented out some pants.
Georgie 34:45
Damn.
Geoff 34:45
Which I can probably do every single year.
Georgie 34:50
Just wear the same shit.
Geoff 34:52
You just go rent it. It was fairly inexpensive to rent it.
Georgie 34:55
Oh yeah.
Geoff 34:56
Yeah. But I dunno.
Georgie 34:58
Especially if you’re not going to these events all the time.
Geoff 35:00
Yeah. You know, I have a I have a bit of a, I guess not a strange thing, but I don’t jump to secondhand stuff. Because I’m a wasteful, non recycling pig. Nah, yeah, just some things don’t really like going for secondhand.
Georgie 35:25
I think for me it depends, so like, you know, I like shop secondhand, but I look for very specific things from like certain brands that I am familiar with. So I only look for those things, but there are some things where I’m like, I’m not gonna go in there for like, just a regular old t shirt. Cuz I don’t know, it depends on the item. So I’ve mostly bought like dresses and like skirts and things secondhand because I kind of know the yeah, I know the brand. And it’s maybe a bit expensive to buy new. So I just try and search for it secondhand.
Geoff 36:00
Yeah, there’s a shop called one night dress, which I thought was very—
Georgie 36:05
A rental?
Geoff 36:06
Very good. Yeah. Very good model. Where you’re just like, just need a dress for that night. All right, go in there, come out with a dress. Boom.
Georgie 36:14
So, I knew someone who worked for a company like this, like, when it was like a startup, but I think it like failed. And this was back in 20, I think 2014 or something like that. But I think now they’re popping up everywhere.
Geoff 36:29
Yeah.
Georgie 36:30
I mean, I don’t mind. Like, I’m not really one to buy fancy. Like, I’ve got a couple of dresses or nice clothes that I would wear like daily but also can somehow like modify the outfit to go to a party. So I don’t find that I’m gonna get any use out of like, specifically renting like a cocktail dress or some shit.
Geoff 36:55
Yeah. The there was a Shark Tank. I think it was a Shark Tank pitch where they did basically children’s clothes like baby, children’s kids clothes. And of course they like grow out of them instantly. So this this startup was all about creating a community of trading, trading all of the kids clothes around so you didn’t have to buy them. Because they like yeah, so I was like, That’s pretty interesting. I don’t know where they are now. And I’m like hoping that that’s a business model because, a viable business model because yeah, they all grow out of it. They get treated like trash anyways, so you may as well get it all second hand, fifth, 100th hand just so you don’t have to buy it. So yeah. And I guess that brings us to the end of the episode.
Georgie 37:55
Woo!
Geoff 37:55
So, happy end of year. Insert your religious belief... for...
Georgie 38:03
You know what they says? Season’s Greetings.
Geoff 38:06
Season’s Greetings. Happy summer.
Georgie 38:09
It’s universal...
Geoff 38:10
Winter...
Georgie 38:12
Yeah, it’s not summer in some places.
Geoff 38:15
Some places. Yeah. Happy Yeah. Seasonal greeting, don’t get too caught up in the in the capitalism.
Georgie 38:26
Never get too caught up in the capitalism.
Geoff 38:27
Yeah. Says the guy who has had a package arrive every week for the past...
Georgie 38:31
Shh... Yeah, I know that feeling, me too.
Geoff 38:34
We’ll go through our—no, we won’t go through gifts. That’s—
Georgie 38:40
Yeah, I’m gonna go through my haul like—Boxing day shit.
Geoff 38:45
My December haul! December Haul! It’s a brand new meaning to “deck the halls”.
Georgie 38:55
Shit.
Geoff 38:56
Yeah. Going deep. So yeah. What was it you can follow us on at Twitter @toastroastpod on Instagram... nope, more like Twitter. We don’t have a Mastodon. You can still find us on Twitter.
Georgie 39:10
Yeah. You can find our podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. And the... hmm... bit stuck on this one?
Geoff 39:21
Yeah. The big.
Georgie 39:22
The big...
Geoff 39:24
The big New Year.
Georgie 39:29
Yeah, I mean, that’s pretty... Yeah. So you will see us in about a month I think. Yeah, we’ll be back next year.
Geoff 39:40
Catch ya later. What’s it, new episodes, not, not next Monday for a while.
Georgie 39:46
Or the Monday after! Some time in January.
Geoff 39:51
See you sometime next year.
Georgie 39:53
Bye.