Toast & Roast

111: Laundering our money

Episode Summary

We talk about the complexities of washing our hands and our clothes, what constitutes “dirty”, and whether the gadgets out there will actually sanitise our things.

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We talk about the complexities of washing our hands and our clothes, what constitutes “dirty”, and whether the gadgets out there will actually sanitise our things.

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Episode Transcription

Georgie  0:08  

And welcome back to another episode of Toast &. Roast. I’m your co host Geoff and as always, I’m joined with my co host, Georgie.

 

Hello.

 

Geoff  0:16  

Pew pew pew. How’s it going?

 

Georgie  0:19  

It’s going things are happening.

 

Geoff  0:21  

It’s happening.

 

Georgie  0:22  

In my life.

 

Geoff  0:22  

You went out. Life what’s happening in your life? Tell us.

 

Georgie  0:26  

Nick, Nick went to pick up some stuff from the dry cleaner. So he doesn’t always he’s I don’t think he’s ever taken anything to the dry cleaner, maybe one coat or something like that. But he was trying to get yellow stains out of his like light coloured shirts. And apparently, if you can’t like remove—

 

Geoff  0:45  

What, what makes a yellow stain?

 

Georgie  0:48  

Could be sweat could be deodorant, it could be a number of things just bodily like oils and stuff like—

 

Geoff  0:54  

Oh.

 

Georgie  0:55  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  0:55  

So for for anyone wondering. I don’t wear any of these types of clothes. So I have no idea.

 

Georgie  1:01  

You’re just like, I don’t have a business shirt. Everything is just black.

 

Geoff  1:05  

What makes things yellow? I do, I do have some shirts where the colour has just like it’s like started getting a bit white ish.

 

Georgie  1:16  

And it’s probably a similar—

 

Geoff  1:17  

Not black anymore.

 

Georgie  1:18  

I think it’s a similar thing like yeah, age of the garment plus bodily like, well, also, like, I guess, just a reminder, everybody, you should clean your neck in the shower. Sometimes it’s just like, so easy to do your limbs—

 

Geoff  1:31  

People don’t clean their neck?

 

Georgie  1:32  

Nah, it’s more like, you know how they go. Have you ever been told as a kid? That you need to clean behind your ears? Have you heard that one before?

 

Geoff  1:42  

Yes.

 

Georgie  1:42  

Yeah. That weirds me out.

 

Geoff  1:43  

I get told now. What do you mean as a kid?

 

Georgie  1:45  

By who? Who is this person telling you to clean behind—

 

Geoff  1:49  

I mean like parents, I guess.

 

Georgie  1:53  

Why do you get told now? As a—

 

Geoff  1:56  

Because I mean, I don’t forget. I always forget.

 

Georgie  1:59  

That’s so weird. Yeah.

 

Geoff  2:01  

No, I wash there every now and then.

 

Georgie  2:03  

Yeah, I mean even, okay, this is one that weirds me out a little bit because it actually feels like a lot of effort. But like, between your toes? Like, yeah, I put soap on my toes and on the bottoms of my feet. But I don’t like get in there unless I dedicate time to use like a brush to like scrub my toes or something.

 

Geoff  2:24  

That’s really interesting. I just realised that I was doing that exact thing. Like a few, a few days, couple of weeks. And I just like it is now, now I just like massage the soap into like between them a little bit.

 

Georgie  2:38  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  2:38  

I don’t like dedicate too much time or anything to it.

 

Georgie  2:42  

Yeah, I think every now and then I’m like, I need to put more effort into cleaning... my toes.

 

Geoff  2:49  

It’s like when it’s like when they told us that we got to like wash your hands for 20 seconds.

 

Georgie  2:54  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  2:54  

And I’m like, people don’t wash their hands for 20 seconds?

 

Georgie  2:56  

Oh see yeah. For me, that was normal. Like I always wash my hands on coming home. Oh, yeah, this, okay, this is this is a mind blowing thing that I learned recently. And I haven’t like, dived deep into looking about it, but looking at reading about it. But every time I come back home after just being out, I wash my hands. And then when I’m preparing food, and there’s different ingredients like there’s chopping vegetables versus like cracking an egg into the pan. I always want to wash my hands after each one of those steps because my hands just feel dirty. That’s what I think. But this video that I watched said, suggested that people who do that like almost compulsively have like, I don’t know if I want to call it a condition. But it’s like a characteristic called tactile avoidance. So it’s like you actually don’t like the feeling of something foreign on your hands and you just want to wipe or wash your hands afterwards. Like, you know how some people eat chips—

 

Geoff  3:59  

Yeah, I don’t—

 

Georgie  3:59  

Like fry fries, or like crisps. And they just brush their hands like this. And then they just they don’t—

 

Geoff  4:05  

Oh my god.

 

Georgie  4:05  

Like, have you ever watched people and—

 

Geoff  4:07  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  4:07  

Been like, why don’t you want to wash your hands? So yeah, apparently, it may not necessarily be just like a germaphobic kind of like, cleanliness thing. It might actually be that some people do not like the sensation of like textures, of different things or foreign things on their hands.

 

Geoff  4:23  

Screw textures. I want everything smooth as fuuuck. Like yeah, maybe that’s really interesting. I feel like I don’t like cross contamination with stuff. Like if if there’s lots of like cooking and things like you, like you said, I tend to either give my hands a light wash. I used to, I think I soaped between a lot but yeah, I do usually just do a light wash? But that’s pretty interesting. Just the aversion to textures.

 

Georgie  4:57  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  4:59  

But I don’t I don’t think I do it for everything. Like after typing on my keyboard, I pick up a gaming controller. It doesn’t like, I don’t have to wash my hands in between those. The, only when it involves anything that’s going to go into your mouth, I suppose.

 

Georgie  5:15  

Hmm.

 

Geoff  5:16  

I might wash, wash hands.

 

Georgie  5:18  

What about, remember we talked about the street wearing street clothes at home? And we were talking—

 

Geoff  5:24  

Oh yeah.

 

Georgie  5:24  

We were talking about like, whether you keep your clothes clean or the surface like the couch?

 

Geoff  5:30  

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

Georgie  5:31  

So like if you’ve been outside—

 

Geoff  5:33  

The, um—

 

Georgie  5:35  

Do you feel like...?

 

Geoff  5:37  

I think it’s, I think it’s easier. I think now, now I’ve been doing it for a while. I think it is much easier to keep your clothes clean just to rotate your clothes rather than keeping your surfaces clean.

 

Georgie  5:49  

So like when you get home you just get changed into like, clothes you wear at home, that type of thing.

 

Geoff  5:54  

Exactly.

 

Georgie  5:55  

So when you touch your shoes, though, what’s your opinion on? Like if you touch and tie your shoe laces for example? Wait, I think you wear laceless shoes but anyway, like other shoes, do you like do you want to wash your hands? Do you feel like you need to wash your hands?

 

Geoff  6:08  

After doing that? I don’t think so. It’s a bit of a gray area hey, cuz like I think your laces, I suppose because you have laces and they like flop about I guess it’s pretty bad.

 

Georgie  6:20  

They feel dirty to me, like I feel like—

 

Geoff  6:22  

They do feel dirty.

 

Georgie  6:23  

Shoes are inherently dirty and if you’re touching the laces which are exposed to the elements outside, I’m like there’s dirt and shit on there.

 

Geoff  6:32  

They do touch, they do touch stuff like well, they flop around?

 

Georgie  6:36  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  6:36  

I get that and then like, get touched the ground and probably touched other things as it flips around. So yeah, I would get I would get that but like when I lace my shoes, it’s usually I’m gonna go for like a walk or jog or something. Let’s be real, I don’t jog. But I have very purposeful jog, like running shoes that I don’t run in, but—

 

Georgie  6:57  

(laughs) Exercise shoes.

 

Geoff  7:00  

When I wear those shoes. I’m going out for a walk and then I come back and then I wash my hands. It’s not like—

 

Georgie  7:07  

But you’ve been outside as well. So you’ve been outside regardless. Yeah, no I do this anyway.

 

Geoff  7:12  

So yeah, you touch the laces but you’re already going outside and you’re already touching a bunch of other stuff maybe, so. Yeah, like come home and you start like touching your home stuff. I suppose that’s like, if you imagine like a green mist around your hand like one of those videos.

 

Georgie  7:29  

(sniggers) Dyson.

 

Geoff  7:29  

And every time you touch things it’s just—

 

Georgie  7:31  

You know that Dyson?

 

Geoff  7:31  

...like, green mist. Oh yeah the laser?

 

Georgie  7:34  

Yeah the thing, whatever that product is.

 

Geoff  7:34  

The beam that shows you all the dust on the floor?

 

Georgie  7:38  

It’s just everywhere.

 

Geoff  7:39  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  7:40  

But that’s the reality.

 

Geoff  7:41  

But just imagine it.

 

Georgie  7:42  

Like you have, there’s germs everywhere. So what do you think about keys?

 

Geoff  7:48  

I don’t have keys.

 

Georgie  7:49  

Oh shit. Do you have like a—oh man. Okay.

 

Geoff  7:52  

I have a keyless life.

 

Georgie  7:54  

So I feel like keys are dirty.

 

Geoff  7:55  

I have like a wallet with a card in it, that’s pretty much it that’s like the back of my wallet kind of touches sensors so generally I try not to touch the back of my wallet.

 

Georgie  8:04  

Do you think your wallet sturdy?

 

Geoff  8:08  

Yeah, it is because it magnetises the back of my phone and then I’m like, it goes on tables sometimes. Because no, it’s like you go outside and I’m I put my wallet on the back of my phone and then I put it on, on tables.

 

Georgie  8:23  

On, on surfaces. Okay. Okay, so back into the era of cash—is cash dirty?

 

Geoff  8:28  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  8:28  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  8:30  

Yeah, I actually like anytime I get cash I literally launder them.

 

Georgie  8:34  

Wait—you launder the cash?

 

Geoff  8:37  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Georgie  8:37  

Like you actually—

 

Geoff  8:37  

Wash them under water.

 

Georgie  8:39  

Fuck, no way.

 

Geoff  8:40  

I soap the cash. Yeah, I soap that shit.

 

Georgie  8:43  

What about coins?

 

Geoff  8:46  

I don’t do that for coins. Coins go into like this box, this like this this like not really a container but like this box thing and then—

 

Georgie  8:54  

Makeshift piggy bank.

 

Geoff  8:55  

...it stays there. Yeah, it’s so I got this card. I got this divider thing like a centre console organiser thing for the car.

 

Georgie  9:05  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  9:05  

And it’s like, it’s like a square. It’s like a square bucket type thing. It’s got different dividers in it.

 

Georgie  9:10  

Oh and you just chuck it in there.

 

Geoff  9:11  

The thing is, it’s it’s the wrong size. It was the wrong size for my car and I was like, shit.

 

Georgie  9:17  

Oh so now you are just using it at home?

 

Geoff  9:19  

It’s a catch all you know with cards and receipts and coins and stuff in it and keys.

 

Georgie  9:25  

So I just realised you literally just you you literally launder your money. You’re doing money laundering.

 

Geoff  9:33  

Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

 

Georgie  9:35  

Yeah, anyway, one of the dry cleaning thing.

 

Geoff  9:37  

Yeah, yeah.

 

Georgie  9:37  

So Nick decided to try and take his shirts to the dry cleaner because apparently some good dry cleaners can kind of get those stains out of like light colorued clothing. Turns out it was successful. But I don’t know. We just picked them up and the results looks kind of good. Like he had these white plain white t shirts that were, they honestly looked kind of a yellow like generally all over, just a little bit yellow, and they looked more fresh. I think there was like the top edge of like the cola was still just a bit yellow. But better than like shit we could have tried at home, or that any of us would be bothered to try at home. But like speaking of white clothes, I know you don’t do white clothes. But you know, if I feel like so many people have this aversion to white clothing, like they just automatically go—

 

Geoff  10:23  

Yeah, it’s beacuse you see your nipples underneath them.

 

Georgie  10:25  

Woah, man.

 

Geoff  10:27  

It’s really...

 

Georgie  10:29  

Isn’t that the point? Nah. (laughs)

 

Geoff  10:32  

It’s the point of white clothes.

 

Georgie  10:33  

No, I mean the aversion to like, “Oh, I’m gonna spill like spaghetti on it” or something. Or coffee.

 

Geoff  10:39  

Oh.

 

Georgie  10:39  

And then it’s like—

 

Geoff  10:40  

We already talking about this.

 

Georgie  10:41  

Spaghetti? Like, very specific. Like you just, I don’t know, I think we have talked about this for a while I did wear a lot of white clothes, and I literally didn’t give a shit. Like, I don’t know, life is too short to worry. Like, I feel like people bring it upon themselves. They’re like, “I’m not gonna get a coffee while I’m wearing a white shirt because I’m gonna spill it on it”. Like the fact that you’re panicking about it. It’s manifestation. (laughs) I don’t believe in manifestation. I just think it’s hilarious.

 

Geoff  11:11  

What’s the thing. Yeah, I was just talking about this recently, actually, where, ignore while I’m on the screen, but, but we were at um, I think I was talking to my coworkers, but generally when you get to like Chinese restaurants, people will inevitably wear some kind of light clothing, despite always getting something with XO sauce or like a sizzling plate.

 

Georgie  11:36  

Wait, really?

 

Geoff  11:38  

Undoubtedly gonna get it on your clothes at some stage. But I’ve always had like, people, like, family members always do that. They just always wear white. So yeah, so I got my custom suit.

 

Georgie  11:55  

Yeah. What hang on wait, what kind of custom suit did you get? Because Nick got like, a made to measure one recently. So not like a fully custom. But like one that was kind of—

 

Geoff  12:06  

Yeah?

 

Georgie  12:07  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  12:08  

Oh, I wonder how custom custom is, I think they do, they do made to measure like, they already have the shirt and then like, do the seams.

 

Yeah, that’s what Nick had—

 

Oh like tighten up the thing?

 

Georgie  12:18  

So it’s like the size is already there. And then they kind of build it, that they’re kind of adjust it to fit you better, like, based on your measurements, but I think you can get them fully custom, like the entire fabric and everything is like done from scratch?

 

Geoff  12:33  

Yeah. Oh my god, there’s red on red. What on earth? Okay, so I got the custom suit made and the, holy shit.

 

Georgie  12:43  

So was it like fully custom?

 

Geoff  12:44  

The shirt alone costs 135. So I think it was fully custom because what—I mean, I think they do a bit of both, like if they can get away with like, cust, like that’s just adjusting to fit. They would do that.

 

Georgie  12:55  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  12:56  

But for me, they had to redo my entire like pants.

 

Georgie  13:01  

Oh yeah because they did something—

 

Geoff  13:02  

Because—

 

Georgie  13:02  

Yeah, it was too small?

 

Geoff  13:03  

Oh no shirt, my shirt or something like that? The shirt was too small. So they have to remake because you obviously can’t just add fabric.

 

Georgie  13:10  

Yeah, yeah, that’s the boo boo. Yeah. (laughs)

 

Geoff  13:13  

Yeah, so what was the thing? I was I’m trying to look for the type of fabric that my shirt is, but it doesn’t tell me here. It’s some kind of like, no wrinkle fabric.

 

Georgie  13:31  

Right?

 

Geoff  13:32  

Something along those lines.

 

Georgie  13:32  

Crease proof whatever something.

 

Geoff  13:34  

Crease proof? Yeah. or and or non iron. Here we go, non iron shirts.

 

Georgie  13:41  

You know what, I’m just imagining—

 

Geoff  13:41  

That is the ticket.

 

Georgie  13:43  

...someone like road testing this and getting the shirt just crumpling with their hands. (laughs) Crease proof? Are you sure?

 

Geoff  13:53  

That’s what I’m gonna do. So yeah, I got this because they were like, Yeah, you could do all these other fabrics. But you would also get non iron shirt and that’s a real big—

 

Georgie  14:04  

Do you own an iron at all?

 

Geoff  14:07  

I do because my partner has things that she wants to iron. But yes, so I got a t shirt, a t shirt? A shirt, and it is non iron but I don’t know if it has any guarantees about the stains or whatever. And I honestly haven’t looked at the cleaning instructions for it because I haven’t actually worn it—

 

Georgie  14:31  

Oh, that’s so funny.

 

Geoff  14:32  

Yet, so it’s it’s now a suit gathering dust until—

 

Georgie  14:39  

Until you need to—

 

Geoff  14:40  

Such a time is required for a suit. But yes.

 

Georgie  14:46  

I think you can, you can probably put it in the washing machine. I actually think—

 

Geoff  14:51  

Probably.

 

Georgie  14:52  

Most things that have this bullshit dry clean, I think we’ve talked about this before, most things that have this bullshit—

 

Geoff  14:57  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  14:57  

Dry clean only stuff is just because you could damage the garment if you wash it in water. But I’ve I’ve washed shit that says “dry clean only” and it’s been fine. Dry cleaning is so expensive.

 

Geoff  15:14  

I used to go to the laun, laundry, I don’t even know what you call them anymore. I think I brought it up—

 

Georgie  15:25  

Laundromat?

 

Geoff  15:25  

...before but this place where there’s a person that launders your stuff. Not like a laundromat where it’s just a bunch of machines and you put coins into it.

 

Georgie  15:35  

So is like a dry cleaner, but they actually wash it in the machine?

 

Geoff  15:39  

They wash clothes like, so you give them a bunch of clothes.

 

Georgie  15:43  

Ah, yep.

 

Geoff  15:43  

And they’ll do whatever is necessary to clean them, like if it goes in the washing machine, it does, if they dry clean, they’ll dry clean it.

 

Georgie  15:49  

Oh yeah, this place did it too because the guy said to Nick he said he said I did it normal, he said I did a wet wash, and then I did a dry clean on top of that. So it kind of he did it twice.

 

Geoff  16:00  

Woah.

 

Georgie  16:00  

To help remove the stains so they must have some kind of whatever, professional process.

 

Geoff  16:06  

So yeah, I used to do that. Just like give them all your clothes. It comes back clean, and warm and dry. And then you just—

 

Georgie  16:14  

Oh my god speaking of warm—

 

Geoff  16:15  

Whack it on.

 

Georgie  16:16  

When you wash your bedsheets do you put ever put them in the dryer just do, dry them naturally?

 

Geoff  16:24  

No, I have to put them in the dryer because we actually have no space to—

 

Georgie  16:27  

OK.

 

Geoff  16:29  

Or rather we don’t have a stack of a rack that’s big enough to—

 

Georgie  16:32  

OK yeah, we ended up putting ours on the chairs. Do you ever like get it out of the dryer—

 

Geoff  16:37  

Oh, chairs...

 

Georgie  16:38  

You’re like, oh shit. So warm... like out of the, straight out of the dryer.

 

Geoff  16:42  

They’re always in the dryer for us. So yes.

 

Georgie  16:45  

Yes.

 

Geoff  16:48  

It is quite nice. And then you just walk us straight onto the bed.

 

Georgie  16:50  

Yeah, and then you just lie there.

 

Geoff  16:53  

There’s, there was a, there was a thing in Below Deck where they do laundry for the for the crew and the, and the guests. And then there was one point where one of the stewardesses they, their steam cleaner is on the end of a iron? I’ve no idea how that works. But—

 

Georgie  17:13  

Is it attached to the iron?

 

Geoff  17:15  

The iron basic... I don’t know it’s probably the bottom the bottom of the iron you can like—

 

Georgie  17:19  

Yeah, I have of those.

 

Geoff  17:20  

You can burst steam out the bottom, right?

 

Georgie  17:22  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  17:23  

But I don’t I think may have a different function for them to be able to, like actually steam clean something because I don’t think you can just blow steam at something and equals clean. Right?

 

Georgie  17:32  

I, so I haven’t tried, oh wait, I’ve learned about this recently like because some people just recommend buying a steamer, like so even though some ions have a steam function, you can buy a separate handheld steamer. Some people recommend like steaming your clothes instead of washing them if you don’t want to wash them and you’ve worn like a couple of times because it actually apparently freshens your clothes. But it doesn’t go through—

 

Geoff  17:57  

Right.

 

Georgie  17:58  

Like a whole entire wash which can, not damage the clothes, but it can extend the life of your clothes if you decide to use a steamer in between washes because it kills bacteria—

 

Geoff  18:11  

Interesting.

 

Georgie  18:11  

...and stuff. I don’t know I don’t know if I buy this.

 

Geoff  18:16  

It’s, it’s some kind of pseudo science where, so like—

 

Georgie  18:18  

Heat.

 

Geoff  18:18  

Heat equals clean.

 

Georgie  18:20  

Yeah probably.

 

Geoff  18:21  

Therefore, clothes clean. Actually there’s... (laughs) there’s an LG wardrobe.

 

Georgie  18:27  

Oh my god I think I saw an ad for this—go on. Yeah,

 

Geoff  18:30  

It’s so good.

 

Georgie  18:32  

Is it, though?

 

Geoff  18:33  

I have another story about it. But it’s funny it’s funny because like oh yeah, I saw an ad for this. Or I think it was one of the when it first got announced at some kind of consumer electronics CES consumer electronics something.

 

Georgie  18:46  

Conference or something.

 

Geoff  18:47  

Yeah, but like they got electronics trade show. Anyways, it’s where they announced a bunch of new innovations and things that you can, so you have a look around, anyways, one of the youtubers went around and found one of these where you hang your clothes in this closet, you close it and it will clean and sanitise ultraviolet light, all everything, your clothes. And there’s a water tank and a drain tank. Anyways.

 

Georgie  19:16  

Looks like a refrigerator, by the way.

 

Geoff  19:19  

Basically a refrigerator for your clothes. Yes. So let’s have a look at the, care for your clothes with the power of steam. It can move it around, steams refresh, vanish, vanquish odours with the power of steam. Is that it, just the power of steam? Reduce wrinkles and restore creases. Oh, you like, steam can flatten steam.

 

Georgie  19:44  

That’s...

 

Geoff  19:44  

Iron your—

 

Georgie  19:45  

That’s sort of similar, it’s. okay, so okay, to be honest, I’ve been using a steam iron for probably the past like 10 years even when I lived with my parents we had a steam iron. So when I see a regular iron that’s just has no steam.

 

Geoff  19:57  

What is a regular iron?

 

Georgie  19:59  

Like it jsut doesn’t have the steam function. It’s just flat. Like—

 

Geoff  20:02  

It’s just a hot, flat piece of metal.

 

Georgie  20:04  

Yeah. And I just feel like they’re... inferior.

 

Geoff  20:10  

Oh my god.

 

Georgie  20:10  

...when I see them.

 

Geoff  20:11  

I didn’t even know these things existed still.

 

Georgie  20:13  

Okay, so...

 

Geoff  20:14  

I honestly didn’t realise these still existed.

 

Georgie  20:16  

You know when you go to a hotel.

 

Geoff  20:17  

I thought everything was steam.

 

Georgie  20:18  

And they have an iron in the hotel. It’s usually not got a steam function. Anyway, I like the steam function on my iron. And I’m like, What’s wrong with? What’s wrong with just using that? Why do I need a whole-ass wardrobe?

 

Geoff  20:32  

Oh, it’s a dry iron.

 

Georgie  20:34  

Oh is that what it’s called?

 

Geoff  20:35  

So, yeah. I get—

 

Georgie  20:35  

Yeah, dry iron.

 

Geoff  20:36  

Yeah. That makes sense. Right. Well, I guess that makes sense that like in the, in the in the show, she was just like, using the steam function on the, on the iron and then it caught a part of the dress and then like, burned a little—

 

Georgie  20:52  

What?!

 

Geoff  20:53  

...bit of the dress and made like a triangle. No idea how it happened, just very incompetent.

 

Georgie  20:56  

How did it get caught, that sounds like BS. That, surely was staged.

 

Geoff  21:02  

And then she had to get she had to give it back to the, the guest and apologise profusely. And then there was another instance where there was just a pile of washing and the stewardess was like, I guess all of it goes in the washing machine. And then that’s like, the number one rule is sort of like, the default is not to put everything in the wash—

 

Georgie  21:25  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  21:26  

Default is to actually do the most delicate type of steam cleaning, wash whatever you can. But just threw everything in there—

 

Georgie  21:33  

Separate the colours?

 

Geoff  21:33  

Guests clothes were in there, was very controversial.

 

Georgie  21:37  

You know, one time I put in a dark blue pair of like denim leggings with a white shirt. Just because I was a lazy asshole and the shirt came out blue. Like not even nice, like, “I’d accidentally dyed my shirt blue”, but it’s just blue splotches, and I was like, that was the dumbest risk ever. And this was like not long after I moved out and it’s like, I know. I know. I was just being stupid.

 

Geoff  22:05  

My my jeans are still bleeding I think.

 

Georgie  22:07  

The ones that, the blueish ones that just randomly—

 

Geoff  22:10  

Yeah, the blueish ones. On my hands. They’re still blue-ing, blue-ing my hands I think.

 

Georgie  22:16  

Terrible.

 

Geoff  22:18  

Oh look, reduces reduce exposure to allergens with steam, or is it really just a steam closet?

 

Georgie  22:24  

I think it is, like, look, there’s this plush toy that’s that’s being ad, like so you can put like, soft, whatever in there.

 

Geoff  22:31  

Put random stuff in there.

 

Georgie  22:32  

Pillows, it’s got.

 

Geoff  22:33  

Yeah. That would be good, actually.

 

Georgie  22:35  

Yeah, pillows. Yeah.

 

Geoff  22:36  

I’d probably throw pillows in there because you can’t really wash the pillows I think. Or I’ve never tried. Oh, no.

 

Georgie  22:43  

Ooh, yeah, one star, one star. Let’s read.

 

Geoff  22:46  

“So disappointed with this product, instructions to connect Wi Fi so confusing. Can’t connect. Wrinkles in sleeves and back of jacket still there. Product promise so much deliver so little”.

 

Georgie  23:01  

Damn.

 

Geoff  23:02  

That’s scathing.

 

Georgie  23:02  

Feel bad, feel bad for you mate.

 

Geoff  23:06  

That’s like the most recent one, eleven months ago, the rest of them are like two years, two years.

 

Georgie  23:10  

There must be another one. Is there another one star? Is there only one?

 

Geoff  23:14  

There’s only one one star.

 

Georgie  23:15  

Okay, so someone had a poor experience? So I would say this person had a poor experience with the Wi Fi, yeah, or whatever, connect thing. And then they were just disappointed. Maybe they they could have done the jacket again. And it would have been fine. I don’t know.

 

Geoff  23:28  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  23:28  

So it’s one of those ones that are not useful.

 

Geoff  23:30  

I don’t know if it takes wrinkles out though. It doesn’t seem like—

 

Georgie  23:34  

Reduce wrinkles.

 

Geoff  23:35  

Steamed, refresh. It just says, yeah, reduce wrinkles and restore creases. So you know what, I think they just had high expectations.

 

Georgie  23:44  

Restore creases, is like when you have the crease in your like, suit pants down the front, and you want to keep that like there. I think that’s what it means by restoring the crease, or like if you have pleated skirts or something like it will, yeah. I don’t think it means like—

 

Geoff  23:59  

It’s pretty good.

 

Georgie  24:00  

...get rid of the creases.

 

Geoff  24:03  

Before we move on from this topic.

 

Georgie  24:04  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  24:06  

I’m thinking I’m thinking okay, so I look at the care instructions for an iPhone. Have you ever looked up the care instructions?

 

Georgie  24:14  

No. Okay this should be interesting.

 

Geoff  24:16  

Care instructions, iPhone 15 Pro. This is actually have been the care instructions since like the 12 Pro. The 15, 14, 13, 12, 11 models.

 

Georgie  24:26  

Okay.

 

Geoff  24:27  

So it’s been the care instructions for four years.

 

Georgie  24:30  

Oh I see it, I see something that I did that says not to do.

 

Geoff  24:33  

Yes, yes. Yes. So here we go. “Clean your iPhone immediately if it comes into contact with anything that might cause stains or other damage, for example, dirt, sand, makeup, soap, detergent”, everything that’s on your face, maybe. “Lotions, acidic foods”.

 

Georgie  24:50  

Yeah, if you spill shit on it, yeah.

 

Geoff  24:51  

“Unplug all cables”. I mean, that’s a given.

 

Georgie  24:55  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  24:55  

You should probably unplug your phone while you clean it. “Use a soft, slightly damp lint for A cloth. Avoid getting moisture in openings. Don’t use cleaning products unless following the instructions of disinfecting your phone”—we’ll get there—“and don’t use compressed air”.

 

Georgie  25:09  

Oh shit.

 

Geoff  25:09  

Which one did you do?

 

Georgie  25:10  

I... I used compressed air? Because see this top part of the 15 Right? It’s got this little—

 

Geoff  25:17  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  25:18  

What is it? I don’t know.

 

Geoff  25:19  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  25:19  

It’s like a little—

 

Geoff  25:20  

It’s an ear hole, it’s a slit.

 

Georgie  25:22  

It’s like yeah, it is very like one millimetre to even less, I don’t know, thick and sometimes a tiny bit of like dirt, dust, whatever it gets in there, I can see it and I can’t just rub it off or blow it out with my breath. So I went and got the compressed air and I was just like [air whooshing sound] just to get, you know, not—

 

Geoff  25:40  

I can’t believe you have compressed air.

 

Georgie  25:41  

I bought it because—

 

Geoff  25:42  

What is this compressed air for?

 

Georgie  25:44  

What is it for? For—

 

Geoff  25:46  

Yeah, what else is it for?

 

Georgie  25:47  

Just for cleaning? So like on the keyboard—

 

Geoff  25:49  

Oh, just for cleaning?

 

Georgie  25:52  

It freaks me out actually.

 

Geoff  25:53  

Oh, yeah, that’s true. Do that.

 

Georgie  25:54  

It freaks me out because like so we all know Apple keyboards are kind of notorious for like, you can’t really remove the keys—whatever. When the dust gets under, it sucks. So yeah, I bought it to help get dust out from under my keyboard, the keys. But it freaks me out because it’s compressed air. Right, so, it’s kind of like dangerous—

 

Geoff  26:19  

Explosive.

 

Georgie  26:20  

Yeah, and you spray it a couple of times and then the can starts to get really cold, like really cold. And I think there’s a warning on it. Actually let’s, let’s read the the warning. “Do not use near open flame, heat sparks or any incandescent material. Do not use any sources of static charges. Should always be used on equipment that is turned off”. I’ve never really bothered to turn off my stuff like, I’m on a laptop, not gonna bother doing that. Probably should. “After use always allow fumes to thoroughly dry and evacuate before power is restored”. I can’t see fumes, so I just, I just continue to use—

 

Geoff  26:59  

Shit, have you been turning, have you been doing this while your laptop’s on?

 

Georgie  27:03  

Yeah, I have. (laughs) “Store in a cool, dry place. Do not expose to heat or store at temperatures above 50 degrees Celsius. Do not use while smoking. Product in liquid form may cause plastic to discolour”.

 

Geoff  27:17  

Oh shit, well—

 

Georgie  27:18  

And, like, “Do not shake can before or during use”. But it’s so tempting to shake it. I don’t know why.

 

Geoff  27:26  

While you’re using it?

 

Georgie  27:27  

What?

 

Geoff  27:28  

Are you like [hissing sound] are you shaking it whilst you’re—

 

Georgie  27:30  

No, no, I mean before using it, I feel like I have to shake it. So use can upright—

 

Geoff  27:34  

Oh right? Yeah, that’s true.

 

Georgie  27:35  

So you can only use it like this—

 

Geoff  27:36  

Are we—

 

Georgie  27:37  

Which means if you’ve got a laptop keyboard, you have to angle it—

 

Geoff  27:40  

You got to, yeah.

 

Georgie  27:41  

Angle it vertically, and then what, “remove tab above the nozzle, nozzle aim the nozzle, blow away dust, spray in three to four short bursts”. Now when I try to spray in three and four short bursts it doesn’t feel like it gets under and cleans everything properly. And then that’s when the can starts to get really like freakishly cold because I guess because the air is compressed it’s like freezing right? And then I’m like great, like it says three to four short bursts, when can I, when can I use it again before like something bad happens?

 

Geoff  28:10  

(laughs) It’s the cool down period. But, so yeah, I I’ve been washing my phone under the tap because—

 

Georgie  28:19  

Like, washing?

 

Geoff  28:20  

Technically the phone is like IP 68.

 

Georgie  28:23  

Water resistant.

 

Geoff  28:24  

It can, it can withstand like a couple of feet in the in the water right. iPhone depth water. So it can it can be submerged up to like six meters for up to 30 minutes. So I just wash my phone in the sink. I just like hand soap, wash it, and then I read this.

 

Georgie  28:47  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  28:47  

(laughs) “Avoid getting moisture in the phone”. And I’m like, what? So I’m like, well every now and, like, after you finish washing your phone you can kind of like if you have any audio you can hear it like struggle through the water but you just like, you just you just like tap your phone or or you just let it dry.

 

Georgie  29:08  

Yeah. Wait, what, I’m so confused because yes, it’s water resistant, but maybe means you shouldn’t get it into the peripherals maybe that’s what—

 

Geoff  29:17  

Well it’s, what, you could submerge it for up to six metres, you can’t wash it under the sink?

 

Georgie  29:21  

This is what I don’t understand about the submerging your device in water. What is, how long is it again for like how long?

 

Geoff  29:28  

Thirty minutes.

 

Georgie  29:29  

In how many metres?

 

Geoff  29:29  

Thirty minutes. Six metres.

 

Georgie  29:32  

So what if you were at the bottom of a pool, six metres I know there’s no probably likely to be no pools that deep, but—

 

Geoff  29:38  

What’s, what’s six metres in feet?

 

Georgie  29:39  

What happens on the thirty, what happens at thirty minutes and one second, is your phone a goner?

 

Geoff  29:45  

19 feet 19 feet. So how I’ve understood waterproofing to work in iPhones from like, any phone really, from the tear downs is that they have this like glue, this water water proof—resist not water resistant. Yeah, probably water resistant glue. And then when they, when they glue everything down, it like creates a seal. So I’m assuming that the six metres is like the amount of water pressure‚ depth pressure that the seal can kind of, like, reliably like—

 

Georgie  30:16  

Withstand?

 

Geoff  30:17  

Prevent water from getting in.

 

Georgie  30:18  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  30:19  

And the length is, again, how long it can be like, I don’t know, not be dissolved by the water.

 

Georgie  30:27  

I see.

 

Geoff  30:28  

So water is probably getting in there, but it’s being repelled by this glue, or being stopped and then so just erodes.

 

Georgie  30:34  

Right.

 

Geoff  30:35  

If you just keep it under water.

 

Georgie  30:36  

Like, it’s like—

 

Geoff  30:37  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  30:38  

Okay, that makes sense.

 

Geoff  30:39  

So yeah, the deeper you go is the shorter length of time that you can probably stay under water.

 

Georgie  30:44  

Interesting. Now I’m curious what the watch says for the cleaning instructions? Because—

 

Geoff  30:49  

That’s also enough because I watched that one under the sink too.

 

Georgie  30:51  

Yeah, but it’s, you can I think every watch, is it every watch or every Apple Watch—

 

Geoff  30:56  

Yeah, most of the watch, you can—

 

Georgie  30:58  

You can like shower or swim with them. Because they’re, they have they’re meant to be able to used in exercising.

 

Geoff  31:03  

Yeah, cleaning instructions, Apple Watch... I never really looked it up.

 

Georgie  31:07  

Then there’s the, what do you call it? There’s the water lock feature.

 

Geoff  31:11  

Yes.

 

Georgie  31:12  

Okay. So here’s the interesting—

 

Geoff  31:13  

I rarely use that.

 

Georgie  31:13  

OK. The interesting part I have is like, what if you forget to put the water lock on and you go for a shower or swim. But then afterwards you do the thing where it vibrates and it releases all of the water? Is that gonna be worse compared to if you had turned the water lock on before going for your swim? Like, you know, but then like—

 

Geoff  31:13  

Yeah, I just did it. No water came out, but I’ve been washing my watch.

 

Georgie  31:44  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  31:46  

So so it says here right. So here’s the instructions for disinfecting your phone.

 

Georgie  31:50  

Oh, okay.

 

Geoff  31:53  

So I forgot about this, but you can use a 70% isopropyl alcohol wipe—

 

Georgie  31:57  

Is that—

 

Geoff  31:57  

This is—

 

Georgie  31:58  

So I use Isocol.

 

Geoff  31:59  

...screen cleaning wipes. Huh?

 

Georgie  32:02  

I use this product called Isocol which I think is, is made, is that stuff.

 

Geoff  32:06  

Isocol?

 

Georgie  32:07  

I, S, O, C, O, L. No, not that. I, I, I, S, O. Yeah. Col.

 

Geoff  32:18  

Isocol spray.

 

Georgie  32:19  

Yeah, that shit.

 

Geoff  32:20  

Rubbing alcohol.

 

Georgie  32:21  

Is that the same stuff?

 

Geoff  32:25  

(laughs) It’s just a bottle spinning for a loading screen.

 

Georgie  32:30  

Rubbing alcohol.

 

Geoff  32:31  

About. Rubbing alcohol, it is isopropyl alcohol at 64%. So it’s actually less than what you need. 75%.

 

Georgie  32:40  

Mhmm.

 

Geoff  32:40  

Yeah so alcohol whipe, wait, alcohol wipe, 75% alcohol wipe or Clorox Disinfecting Wipes, “you may gently wipe the exterior, don’t use products containing bleach, hydrogen peroxide, avoid getting moisture in any openings do not submerge your phone in any cleaning agents”. Imagine just like dropping your phone in a bucket of bleach.

 

Georgie  33:03  

Oh my god that’s just like destroying it.

 

Geoff  33:05  

So in any case, I this is actually different from when I last read I thought you can’t use any disinfecting wipes on your phone because it removes the the anti fingerprint material on the glass, so it actually takes away—

 

Georgie  33:22  

I think it actually depends on the wipe, like some wipes like the ones that you just use to clean your kitchen counter I think are not made of that stuff like isopropyl alcohol.

 

Geoff  33:31  

Oh.

 

Georgie  33:31  

So that’s why like they have other shit in them.

 

Geoff  33:33  

Maybe.

 

Georgie  33:34  

So like if Dettol, you know those Dettol wipes things they just leave shit on your like—

 

Geoff  33:38  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  33:39  

They’re not pure alcohol or whatever.

 

Geoff  33:42  

Here we go. So this Clorox Disinfecting Wipes, is it just made up of alco, like, isopropyl—any case, so all in all, I’ve doing this wrong. I got I just got my iPhone 15 Pro so I’m not doing any of this, and I have some isopropyl alcohol? I’m gonna go check its alcohol content but I could probably just spray my phone.

 

Georgie  34:11  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  34:12  

Or rather sprayed on a cloth and then wipe my phone.

 

Georgie  34:14  

Yeah I just, I, that’s what I do with my phone screen I use that isocol stuff and I just wipe it when it’s like super dirty.

 

Geoff  34:21  

Yeah, so the idea here is actually like so I went through all this and I was thinking I was reading this art, article and the article says something about the whole wiping off whatever protective cover on this glass screen is and one of the suggestions was of course the UV light box.

 

Georgie  34:42  

What the heck, like as in like those light things that you use they also use in the nail salon?

 

Geoff  34:49  

It’s kind of? I think so? So this is a UV sanitiser, it is a box.

 

Georgie  34:57  

OK.

 

Geoff  34:57  

You put the thing in the box, it lights up your, whatever that’s in the box with UV ray lights and it will clean, it will disinfect. So I’m like halfway between am I bothered? Now that I’m thinking about it, I already have the isopropyl alcohol so I probably won’t get this for a bit—

 

Georgie  35:18  

What—

 

Geoff  35:18  

But it’s an interesting option.

 

Georgie  35:20  

But what’s the like, scientific evidence that UV sanitise—UV, yeah, these things work?

 

Geoff  35:25  

Oh yeah, there’s lots of papers written about it actually.

 

Georgie  35:29  

And?

 

Geoff  35:30  

Sanitise, it, it works. It does.

 

Georgie  35:35  

Right.

 

Geoff  35:36  

Yeah. So from from a lot of you know, health, the health.com a lot of notable do not use ultraviolet wands. Are you trying to clean your food? That’s probably not a good idea. FDA testing. So I haven’t read too deep into but seems like most of the articles and stuff... Oh, the FDA is warning consumers about potential risk of injury associated with the use of certain brands of ultra—oh, certain brands, do not use ultraviolet wands for disinfecting use, it may expose the user or nearby person to unsafe levels. That’s why you have a box, everybody.

 

Georgie  36:16  

Yeah, you don’t put your hand in it.

 

Geoff  36:17  

You put it in the box, you close the box.

 

Georgie  36:19  

You know, you’re not actually like exposed to the thing. But like on that topic like those those, you know, there’s manicure like nail salons, they have the little box where you put your fingers in to get your manicure cured.

 

Geoff  36:31  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  36:32  

Like there’s been like discussion around the, how doing that over an extended period of time is may not be good for you and you should consider actually like wearing sunscreen on your fingers when you get a manicure, but then like if you’re getting a full manicure, I think they’re gonna like wash it off any way. But yeah.

 

Geoff  36:49  

Yeah, it’s it’s kind of interesting. I mean, it’s like a tanning booth. But for your phone. I don’t know what yatanning booths use.

 

Georgie  36:55  

But it will disinfect it, but it won’t clean it, right? Like if you’ve got dirt on it, it’s not actually going to clean it. It’s just going to disinfect the phone.

 

Geoff  37:07  

Yeah, so if you’re, if you’re really concerned about germs and stuff, then that’s it. And then you would have to use, you’d have to probably use a damp cloth to wipe off any anyways.

 

Georgie  37:19  

With the isopropyl alcohol.

 

Geoff  37:20  

Probably not isopropyl because it’s like you could clean it without using any—

 

Georgie  37:24  

Oh yeah.

 

Geoff  37:25  

Disinfect, disinfecting is using that.

 

Georgie  37:27  

Oh yeah,

 

Geoff  37:28  

I don’t know. Well, to be fair, if you think about it, now that I’ve gone through all the options, you’re already going to wipe it with a towel anyway. So you might as well just get some isopropyl alcohol and put on the towel and then wipe your phone instead of—

 

Georgie  37:41  

Instead of using the—(laughs)

 

Geoff  37:41  

Putting it inside a box for 10 minutes, and bringing it out and then wiping it again. So yeah, thanks everybody. So the watch.

 

Georgie  37:52  

Alright.

 

Geoff  37:53  

“Turn off your watch”. Oh shit.

 

Georgie  37:56  

(laughs) I think you know, I think we need to start a club for people who try to clean the devices.

 

Geoff  38:03  

Without reading the instructions?

 

Georgie  38:07  

But like namely, not turning it off.

 

Geoff  38:09  

...watch clean with non abrasive lint free, yeah, and mainly it’s like, Facebook group not turning off your phone whilst watching.

 

Georgie  38:15  

I CBF turning my devices off before wiping.

 

Geoff  38:20  

Yeah, soaps and other cleaning products shouldn’t be used.

 

Georgie  38:25  

Oh okay.

 

Geoff  38:26  

OK. Wow, clean and dry the Digital Crown, it’s different.

 

Georgie  38:29  

Oh wow. Okay

 

Geoff  38:30  

It’s the same thing. “Hold the crown under light running warm fresh water from the tap”.

 

Georgie  38:38  

Oh wow. So you can put it under running water, they’re okay with that?

 

Geoff  38:42  

Turn and press the crown continuously as water runs over.

 

Georgie  38:45  

Oh.

 

Geoff  38:47  

Oh. So you just keep pressing it up and down and pushes the water in and then like cleans up, oh.

 

Yeah because there’s like, there’s that little gap between... Yep. Okay, yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Georgie  38:54  

Did not know.

 

Geoff  38:56  

No. Leather solo loops.

 

Georgie  38:58  

Oh the bands. Yeah.

 

Geoff  39:00  

The band. They all have individual ones. I’m thinking mine is just a solo sport loop. That’s it.

 

I’ve got the sport. one

 

I mean, I wash, I mean I wash it on, underwater I just chuck the whole thing underwater, soak it, then dry it.

 

Georgie  39:14  

It’s literally silicone. Like it’s—

 

Geoff  39:16  

Yeah.

 

Georgie  39:16  

It’s like whatever is it I don’t know if it’s implant grade silicone or whatever but it’s like—

 

Geoff  39:22  

(laughs) Implant grade?

 

Georgie  39:23  

Yes. Yeah. Like—

 

Geoff  39:25  

Don’t be cutting under your skin and shoving a watch band in there.

 

Georgie  39:27  

Just like what that means is like it’s the kind of silicone that’s like safe to have like in your body, like I don’t know, I think like breast implants for example. Or like some kind of other implant I can’t recall any but it, that means it’s also safe.

 

Geoff  39:43  

Yes.

 

Georgie  39:43  

Just to be on your, in your, on your body.

 

Geoff  39:48  

Yeah, food grade silicone.

 

Georgie  39:50  

Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah, like, like some water, I think my water bottle is made of like food grade silicone.

 

Geoff  39:55  

Oh, yeah.

 

Georgie  39:55  

Because you’d want it to.

 

Geoff  39:56  

My water bottle is also kind of, make grade, dishwasher safe, hotwater safe, can’t read it, but yeah.

 

Georgie  40:05  

It can stand some shit.

 

Geoff  40:08  

But I’m, I’m interested in this. Oh so basically what?

 

Georgie  40:13  

Interested in this wardrobe... I can’t believe it.

 

Geoff  40:15  

So what I did like for my background, I was looking for a nice, I mean, I was telling people about this at work and then I came across this picture of a, I don’t know where it is actually.

 

Georgie  40:28  

Are you sold on this? Are you sold on this LG?

 

Geoff  40:31  

This wardrobe, cleaning wardrobe thing? I think it’s kind of cool. I would, I wouldn’t mind having a fridge for my clothes.

 

Georgie  40:39  

I actually think it’s ridiculous.

 

Geoff  40:42  

Imagine if—it’s super ridiculous. But it’s ridiculous enough for me to say, hey, everybody, I’ve got this ridiculous thing. But I think if you just like swap out your clothes as you like, as you as you go about your day, then what, what if you didn’t have to? You just chucked your clothes in there. And then you brought them back out and then sat around your house, they’re clean? Although I don’t know if—

 

Georgie  41:05  

I don’t think it can replace—I don’t think it can replace laundry.

 

Geoff  41:09  

Swapping your clothes out.

 

Georgie  41:10  

No, yeah I don’t—

 

Geoff  41:11  

Yeah no it won’t replace laundry.

 

Georgie  41:12  

Okay.

 

Geoff  41:13  

But—

 

Georgie  41:14  

Were you are you just trying to efficiently steam your clothes?

 

Geoff  41:17  

(laughs) Yeah.

 

Georgie  41:17  

Is that what you—oh, yeah. No, a hundred percent, I agree.

 

Geoff  41:22  

When you get home, I don’t need to steam my clothes. Anyways.

 

Georgie  41:25  

It does it for you.

 

Geoff  41:26  

Wearing your out, you’re wearing you’re wearing outside clothes. And then you get home and you chuck your outside clothes in there for five minutes. And then you put them back on. Oh you may as well change clothes anyways, alright, nevermind.

 

Georgie  41:38  

Yeah, but then at least. Yeah, okay.

 

Geoff  41:40  

It’s a quick clean, you didn’t even get any shit on it, you didn’t get dumped, you didn’t get dirt dumped on you. You throw it in there. And it’s got some clean clothes.

 

Georgie  41:51  

I can see. I can see. I’ll be useful, but it just looks like a stupid gimmick. Honestly.

 

Geoff  41:57  

Maybe you don’t have to iron. Yeah, if you don’t have serious creases in your clothes.

 

Georgie  42:03  

Well the thing is, I, my clothes mostly do not need ironing. It’s mostly like Nick’s clothes. I don’t know. Maybe I should ask him.

 

Geoff  42:10  

Get Nick this wardrobe.

 

Georgie  42:12  

Hey?

 

Geoff  42:12  

$2,000 $2,000 Instead of going to a dry cleaner. Hey.

 

Georgie  42:16  

Yeah, probably. And then I don’t have to iron. Yeah.

 

Geoff  42:20  

Yeah. You know what, I don’t need this wardrobe. But it’s kinda cool. I like tech.

 

Georgie  42:28  

Yeah. I think that’s the part that‘s getting you.

 

Geoff  42:31  

Yeah. So I can’t find the image now. But what—and we’re over time, but so just quickly, so I was telling people about this wardrobe. And then I was like showing them pictures of the wardrobe. Because it looks just like a fridge in the middle of your wardrobe. And I basically took one of those pictures and turned it into a Zoom background. And now my like—

 

Georgie  42:50  

Oh my god. Did people believe this or like?

 

Geoff  42:53  

Well, the thing is, my chair covers the wardrobe so no, people don’t believe it’s at my actual apartment. I think the, I think the depth and the, and the—

 

Georgie  43:03  

Scale?

 

Geoff  43:05  

I dunno, it just looks very fake.

 

Georgie  43:06  

Yeah.

 

Geoff  43:06  

Yeah, there’s no scale to it. So yeah, now I have it as my background. Kitchen behind me. I might as well have a nice apartment. Well, it has an ovular mirror. And one of my colleagues was like, that doesn’t look like your kind of apartment.

 

Georgie  43:24  

Why?

 

Geoff  43:25  

I can’t, I can’t have an ovular mirror?

 

Georgie  43:28  

It’s too—

 

Geoff  43:29  

But we boiled the boiled it down to me being like very straight edge kind of liking person.

 

Georgie  43:35  

(laughs)

 

Geoff  43:35  

(laughs) Anyways, that’s all we have for this episode. Not that we prepared anything.

 

Georgie  43:47  

Don’t tell them that.

 

Geoff  43:50  

No, it’s all prepared, of course. So you can find us on, you can email, you can email us on the toastroastpod@gmail.com.

 

Georgie  44:03  

Yes, email us please. And you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big UV light box that’s supposed to clean your phone but you might as well wipe it with an isopropyl alcohol wipe.

 

Geoff  44:17  

So really big. And new episodes every Monday.

 

Georgie  44:24  

See you next week.

 

Geoff  44:26  

Bye.