GTA VI hype, sandbox games, and spending too much time making a character on the Sims. What an odd way to end the year.
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GTA VI hype, sandbox games, and spending too much time making a character on the Sims. What an odd way to end the year.
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Geoff 0:09
And welcome back to the final episode of 2023. I momentarily forgot what year it was.
Georgie 0:22
Hello.
Geoff 0:23
So I'm here with Georgie as always. And I'm Geoff.
Georgie 0:28
You’re Geoff.
Geoff 0:28
And we we co host the Toast & Roast.
Georgie 0:31
Hey it rhymes, host.
Geoff 0:34
Georgie, yeah—
Georgie 0:35
No, host, toast and roast.
Geoff 0:37
And toast, host, roast, toast.
Georgie 0:42
What do you think of the name of the podcast?
Geoff 0:46
It's been like a bit of a time to even consider changing it now.
Georgie 0:52
I just thought of, you know that—
Geoff 0:53
I hate it Georgie. It's been five, I don't know how many years we've done this—
Georgie 0:57
It’s two I think.
Geoff 0:59
Has it been two?
Georgie 1:00
You hate it. Okay. What would you, if you if someone asked you to rename it? Like what would you call it?
Geoff 1:05
Gun to your head. What would you call it? Honestly, don't know what else we would call it.
Georgie 1:11
GG.
Geoff 1:12
Yeah, I guess GG? Like GC GC.
Georgie 1:17
GC, squared.
Geoff 1:18
GC squared. Like R2 D2 is Red Dead Redemption. I don't know why.
Georgie 1:25
Wait. No, it's not.
Geoff 1:28
It’s red... That's I mean, that's the robot from Star Wars. But Red. Dead. Redemption....
Georgie 1:34
That’s RDR.
Geoff 1:35
Ah. Oh, RDR. I think someone mis, mis like, typed it in the chat. Yes. There’s RDR2. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. But GTA six was just announced ish.
Georgie 1:35
Yes.
Geoff 1:37
I don’t know—
Georgie 1:53
I saw the trailer. And I just thought it was so funny. When they said coming 2025.
Geoff 2:01
2025.
Georgie 2:02
Like, it's not even next year. super hyped, you know?
Geoff 2:06
Did. Did you hear about all the controversy around it?
Georgie 2:10
Yeah, a little bit. I don't know, like full details. But I know that people were picking at keaks, apparently. And they were saying it leaked. And I think Nick said something along the lines of it didn't leak, the company did it on purpose.
Geoff 2:26
Yeah, that's the, that's the running theory. Oh, yeah. They did type RDR2, I just read it as—
Georgie 2:35
R2D2.
Geoff 2:36
R2D2, because there's two Rs. So I guess like R squared. D, and I don't know. You know? Is Red. And then redemption.
Georgie 2:43
It rhy—there’s a lot of alliteration, I suppose?
Geoff 2:47
Yeah. So yeah, they someone, yeah, quote unquote, leaked it on X, I think.
Georgie 2:57
Didn’t they work for the company, like Rockstar Games?
Geoff 3:00
Who knows? I didn't look too deep into it.
Georgie 3:02
OK.
Geoff 3:03
But essentially, the, the, from what I understand is sort of like they, it leaked, and then they took it down, and then they put it back up, because we're like, yeah, what the hell. And then like, of course, the the theory is that it was all purposefully done. But it got like, what was it, the highest gro—like highest views viewed video in 24 hours or something like that.
Georgie 3:29
I think there are already 14, 14 million views on it. When I saw it, and that was about—
Geoff 3:35
Views in 24 hours...
Georgie 3:37
I think, did I see, how long ago was it?
Geoff 3:40
GTA six trailer breaks Guinness record for most views in 24 hours.
Georgie 3:46
Why is it Guinness. Like who gives a shit? You know what I mean?
Geoff 3:50
Guinness records. Oh my god. So on—
Georgie 3:52
I think they're really like, they must be rigged. Like they’re so dumb.
Geoff 3:56
It's like the 30, 30 under 30. Totally rigged. Did you...?
Georgie 4:01
Oh, yeah. I read your article, yes. No. You sent it to me.
Geoff 4:04
Oh yeah there’s an article. I sent you the article.
Georgie 4:06
Because I got pissed off at it because someone, someone I follow called Alan Chikin Chow. He's like a comedian.
Geoff 4:14
Haha. Okay.
Georgie 4:15
He's an Asian comedian. He started his YouTube channel or his social media on, in about 2020. So not too long ago. And he's gotten he's gained a lot of popularity. And then he appeared on that list. And I just, it ticked me off because we have ranted about the, the Forbes 30 under 30 list and how it’s all aspirational, putting the age on it kind of thing. And I just I actually well, I'm not saying I looked up to this guy, but I'm saying that's really impressive that he gained a large following, you know, creating videos to make people laugh. And he did that, obviously through like hard work or kind of organically. Like, yeah, and then I'm like, oh, so now now you're on that list. You fucking paid you dumb—
Geoff 5:02
You sold out?
Georgie 5:04
Yeah, I don't know. It just, it made me think a little less of him. I'll say that.
Geoff 5:10
Yeah, I mean, you could you could also, I don't want to be outlandish, but you could question the Nobel Prize, right?
Georgie 5:19
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Go on.
Geoff 5:22
I've never really heard about any controversies around the Nobel Prize, but you can question any prize, Nobel Prize. How do you how do you get one?
Georgie 5:28
You gotta be a smart cunt.
Geoff 5:29
How... how to get a Nobel Prize. Um... frequently asked questions Nobel Prize dor org, Britannica. Right, nominations, prizes and laureates, nominations, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for the Nobel Prize in physics and chemistry, wait—Alfred Nobel specifically designated the institutions responsible for the prizes he wished to be established. What.
Georgie 5:32
Does that mean you have to be—oh no, OK, so what’s that? How do you become nominated?
Geoff 6:04
Oh. Right, okay, so like, yeah, who who selects them?
Georgie 6:07
Okay.
Geoff 6:08
So the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences Karolinska Institutet, now the the Nobel assembly, jesus, dude, like—
Georgie 6:18
It must be specified.
Geoff 6:21
“Swedish Academy for the Nobel Prize in literature and the Committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Parliament sorting for the Nobel Peace Prize”. All righty then. Yeah, how do you become nominated?
Georgie 6:35
“You must first be nominated for a prize by an eligible nominator. Self nomination is not allowed”. So you can't even like apply, so you know if you wanted a job, you would apply for the job, you must do that. I mean, you can get someone to refer you but in this case—
Geoff 6:51
Yes.
Georgie 6:51
Someone, like a specific person with some rights or—
Geoff 6:56
Rights. You must schmooze one person. “Except for the Nobel Peace Prize which is nominations by invitation only”, see that's what I assumed, that all nominations would be invitation only. But I suppose being nominated by some nominator is the same thing. But
Georgie 7:17
But how do you become a nominator? Okay, that's the next question. How can you become a nominator?
Geoff 7:21
How do you become a nominator? I, Geoff Chong, will become a nominator of the—
Georgie 7:25
Only people who fulfil the criteria set out by the prize awarding institutions are allowed to nominate candidates. To find out—okay.
Geoff 7:32
I shall nominate the Nobel burger prize.
Georgie 7:38
Let's click one on them.
Geoff 7:40
All right, physics, chemistry, medicine, literature, peace, economics, science...
Georgie 7:45
Just pick one.
Geoff 7:46
I’ve been watching... My partner's been watching Big Bang theory again. So they talked about the Nobel Peace, Nobel like, prize a lot as well. Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences is [inaudible] to response for the selection of the Nobel Prize.
Georgie 8:04
It's above the yeah, the qualified nominators.
Geoff 8:07
Swedish and... Swedish and foreign members of the Royal Swedish Academy, members of the Nobel Committee for physics. What did these people do in their regular lives?
Georgie 8:17
That is their regular lives.
Geoff 8:18
Besides being nominators? They just sit there, like, oh, who's the who's the, who’s the person who like can certify your documents?
Georgie 8:27
Oh, my god, the justice of the peace?
Geoff 8:29
Justice of the peace?
Georgie 8:30
Yeah. I had to see one like recently to change my name with my superannuation because I hadn't done it since I got married bloody years ago. He was a nice chap, though. He was like I said, oh, you know, I came here last week to certify my driver's licence. Now can you—this was a different person to the one who certified my driver's licence, but I said can you just do this for my marriage certificate? And he’s like, oh, it's not superannuation, is it? And I’m like yeah, it is. And he’s like, oh, they are, yeah, I was like, yeah, they're very strict. And he's like, good luck. By the way, Superannuation is retirement fund, I think, if you're outside Australia.
Geoff 9:10
Yeah, it's your 401k. Oh. Why is it called the 401k?
Georgie 9:16
Oh, no, we’re going down the hole.
Geoff 9:18
We're doing, we're basically doing Wikipedia by... Why are you called 401k?
Georgie 9:25
Why.
Geoff 9:26
Is...
Georgie 9:27
Subsection 401k in the US.
Geoff 9:29
Oh, okay. It's called 401k because it’s a subsection of the frigging US Internal Revenue Code. Any case, back to GTA, the Guinness World Record holder, it's 121 million views.
Georgie 9:46
Oh shit, that’s the lot.
Geoff 9:48
Publish time. If you're one of the few who missed out might as well give it a couple more.
Georgie 9:53
So that means it like when I watched it, it's basically quadrupled because I think I saw like 48 million.
Geoff 10:02
Eight point nine million likes in the first day, a ratio that suggests a large percentage of views were organic rather than ad based. The video sits at 121 views of published time.
Georgie 10:13
121 million.
Geoff 10:14
121 million. That's impressive. I mean, all I care about is, did it beat Gangnam Style?
Georgie 10:22
It looks like it beat—
Geoff 10:24
Yeah, Butter and Dynamite.
Georgie 10:25
BTS.
Geoff 10:27
BTS.
Georgie 10:31
Guinness has not proven to be consistently reliable, soz. Take that, suckers.
Geoff 10:36
A look back at recent major game reveals helps backup the record breaking assertion at least relative to other game trailers. You know what's really stupid, is like, IGN?
Georgie 10:49
Yeah?
Geoff 10:49
Being like a big YouTube channel that publishes—
Georgie 10:53
Game stuff?
Geoff 10:54
That reviews games. Yeah, for those who don't know IGN is “in game name” as a—
Georgie 11:03
Oh, is that what it mean, the acronym.
Geoff 11:05
IGN, the acronym is. IGN, in game name. But what really annoys me is that it's the first time—like anytime a trailer comes out, IGN is the one is one that's published it, and not the original one. And that really like weirds me out. So I had to go searching because, searching for Rockstar in for instance.
Georgie 11:29
Yeah.
Geoff 11:29
And then what? You can watch the original trailer there.
Georgie 11:34
Oh.
Geoff 11:35
So I did a bit of a Google I was like, why is IGN allowed to just rip people's trailers?
Georgie 11:42
Whereas other like channels are not allowed to do that kind of thing?
Geoff 11:46
Yeah. And then someone said, actually, they probably get paid. They’re just an advertising channel at that stage. You pay to get your trailer in front of more people.
Georgie 11:57
Is it like VEVO, like the VEVO for like music videos, like usually you’re just like, oh, yeah, they've got the official one for whatever. Taylor Swift.
Geoff 12:06
Yeah, what is VEVO again? I know of it, but I don't... We're not getting VIVO—world’s leading Music Video Network. Oh.
Georgie 12:17
Yeah. Yeah, it's an advertiser. Yeah.
Geoff 12:22
Yeah. I suppose like, why would you start a whole vid, how, why would you start a whole YouTube channel for Ariana Grande, which she probably does, or—
Georgie 12:31
When you can just pay VEVO to?
Geoff 12:34
Yeah, 120. 50 million. However many people subscribe to VEVO.
Georgie 12:41
Because I think they're just music videos. She might want to post other shit. Probably.
Geoff 12:45
Yeah. 20 million 20 million subscribers. And then if I went to find like Ariana Grande, if she has an actual—they'd probably pay VEVO. 53 million. So yeah, you could say VEVO’s an extra like 50% more. But I do remember, actually like some artists starting out with their VEVO channels.
Georgie 13:12
Oh, yeah. Ariana Grande VEVO.
Geoff 13:17
Which is.
Georgie 13:19
It's just marketing, I think.
Geoff 13:21
Yeah, it doesn't tell you how many subscribers they have. What?
Georgie 13:26
Oh, that's a bit weird.
Geoff 13:28
That is weird. But it is very interesting. 20, 20 million, 20 billion views.
Georgie 13:37
Wait, you can't subscribe?
Geoff 13:39
Oh, you actually can't subscribe to it. It's just an aggregate. This is very strange. Yeah, maybe it's all SEO. It's all just search engine optimisation. In any case, a couple of people were like, “GTA six doesn't seem appealing anymore”. For those who don't know GTA Grand Theft Auto is about stealing cars.
Georgie 14:06
So when, when was GTA 5, that was like a long time ago?
Geoff 14:09
Oh yeah. I think it was like 10 years ago.
Georgie 14:13
I think longer. Maybe.
Geoff 14:16
GTA 5...
Georgie 14:17
My guess is that the people who played the game and were really big fans of it 10 plus years ago.
Geoff 14:27
Yeah.
Georgie 14:28
Are older now. And whatever they've done with—this is what I gather from the trailer, whatever they've done with GTA 6. It looks very current, like there are some clips. By the way. I'm not going to consider them spoilers because it's the trailer. There are clips of like social media sort of interfaces, like a TikTok type kind of video. Like someone's watching a Reel or something on Instagram. And I think because it's quite current, it might just feel different, like you If you are someone who is maybe 45 years old and you liked this 10 years ago, this might just not really be your vibe. Maybe. I don't know. They got to make money from the game. Duh.
Geoff 15:13
But yeah, but it's like some some celebrities of course weighed in. Apparently Elon Musk can't imagine playing a game because he'll he's like, the whole idea is to shoot cops. And he doesn't like that idea of shooting cops. So he won’t, he doesn't like, he won't play the game.
Georgie 15:34
It's just a game though.
Geoff 15:36
Yeah, is is a game after all. But yeah, it's all about infamy. And it's about like, actually, like being really good at doing illegal stuff. So take what you will.
Georgie 15:48
What, what do you think? Have you ever played it? Like, what's your personal sort of like experience with the game?
Geoff 15:55
Yeah, I think I played GTA 3. I honestly can't remember the last GTA I played.
Georgie 16:04
The one I played was Vice City.
Geoff 16:08
That's, yeah. San Andreas is the one that I played.
Georgie 16:11
Ah.
Geoff 16:12
I don't know what lineup that is from.
Georgie 16:17
Is that 5?
Geoff 16:17
Grand Theft Auto sent. Now I need to like—
Georgie 16:21
I forget the order. Like, but yeah, I played—
Geoff 16:25
It’s order is just as important as Fast and Furious.
Georgie 16:28
Oh, no. I thought GTA V is San Andreas. Or is it?
Geoff 16:34
GTA?
Georgie 16:35
Oh, hang on.
Geoff 16:37
Four. No there’s—
Georgie 16:38
Oh whoops.
Geoff 16:39
There's auto, auto II, theft auto III, then there's Vice City. And then there's San Andreas and then IV and then V and then VI.
Georgie 16:48
Okay, so the ones that are named after things, are separate from the actual chronology?
Geoff 16:53
Yeah, seems that way. The universe is 3D. And then there's HD? What kind of universe names are these? 2D, 3D, HD?
Georgie 17:04
I don't know. I think it was either San Andreas or number five, or both, that I watched Nick play some of it on the PlayStation. But like by then I just, like I didn't really play the game anymore. It was not interesting. But I don't mind like watching.
Geoff 17:25
Yes. Yeah. These type of sandbox games I get bored off pretty easily in terms of the storyline because there is pretty much none but also the the fact that some of these games they just come out with like a bunch of like, hacks or cheat codes.
Georgie 17:39
Yeah.
Geoff 17:40
And you just forget about the story. You just have a bunch of money for free. And you go around and shoot people. And then—
Georgie 17:47
Or you go to one of the skyscrapers at a certain time of the evening and the lights are on in the shape of a phallus.
Geoff 17:54
Ah, that's that's fun.
Georgie 17:55
Yeah, Vice City. I can't remember what time it was. I just remember, there's, there's a there's an Easter egg. Go to the one of the building at the top of the golf course, or something, I don’t know. There’s a skyscraper, see a penis. All good.
Geoff 18:08
So at that stage, I'm just like, well, I don’t see any point in playing this game. Same like, there's like this game called Infamous. And you just cheat code your way to getting all of the the random superpowers. And then you go around and you terrorise people and you climb buildings like Superman, like Spider Man, and then you like, I don't know. Either way these kinds of sandbox games get get me nowhere. To be fair. I don't play a lot of video games. And I don't complete a lot of video games. Despite any story being present.
Georgie 18:42
I think it depends on the person because my friend said a similar thing about the sandbox games and yet I think there are people who probably really like this kind of game as opposed to ones that are sort of a bit more free.
Geoff 18:56
Yeah, that's, so a different game genre that that got released, that, or trailer got released, was called oh crap... is ino... inozumi or something? Crap. It's a very weird name because it's um it's a Korean game. Anyways, it's it's based is basically Sims. But way better, like they hyper super graphics—
Georgie 19:31
What kind of game is The Sims?
Geoff 19:34
Sims is super sandbox.
Georgie 19:36
I hate The Sims.
Geoff 19:36
Korean Sims... You really... you, for here we go. Inzoi.
Georgie 19:45
Inzoi.
Geoff 19:48
Inzoi. Have you not played The Sims?
Georgie 19:51
No, I don't like it. Have we? I think we may have talked about this, but I just could never quite I couldn't never quite get into it. Like I'd spend all this time. Like a fucking idiot. Making my Sim look like me. Because like who doesn't? Unless you're a very creative person and you want to make some different characters, and then I'd be like, oh, great. I've got to build a fucking house now? Done. I just, I don't know.
Geoff 20:19
Yeah.
Georgie 20:19
It's boring to me. I don't know. And then you have to want like, put beds in there and then watch them fuck and like... (laughs)
Geoff 20:27
So that‘s what you think you should do in the Sims.
Georgie 20:29
No, I know, there's like objectives and like, you got to take care of them. But I'm just like, I don't know. It just It doesn't interest me. It's not my kind of game. I may have I may have shared before on the pod that I think I sort of like things that... I think I like adventure games, but then I'm that dickhead who also like tries to open every corner of the map and explore and shit and then I get tired. So I think my game of choice of these days as a person in their 30s is those puzzle games, just puzzles, levels of puzzles, they get harder and harder. And I can use my brain a little bit, but there's no like, massive pressure. (laughs)
Geoff 21:00
Yeah. So when I played The Sims—
Georgie 21:03
Minesweeper. Just kidding. I kid, I kid.
Geoff 21:09
What, what—Wordle?
Georgie 21:10
Yeah, no, exactly. That's the kind of shit that like I waste my time on.
Geoff 21:15
Yeah. So when I first started playing Sims, it was all about building the house. And then afterwards, I was like, okay, screw the game. But it's funny, because I was talking to my co workers and showing my co workers this because we were talking about it. And then the immediate comments was just like, sweet. So after work, I can go on to this game and work? Like—
Georgie 21:38
Oh my god.
Geoff 21:40
So just, what's the difference? Like why would you?
Georgie 21:43
So it's an office setting?
Geoff 21:46
No, there's no, it's not an office setting is just like, you can go to the office, you can go to the grocery store is like so wait, I just get off work. And then I go do chores, and then go to my second job? And just like cook shit?
Georgie 21:58
Wait is this similar to The Sims?
Geoff 22:01
It's basically what you do in The Sims. It's just higher fidelity Sims essentially.
Georgie 22:06
That is fucking hilarious.
Geoff 22:08
The crazy thing is actually some of its fashion stuff, is that you can you can pick outfits, but at the same time, you can also pick prints and you can like rearrange the prints on your on your clothing choice. So you can you can actually make like—
Georgie 22:27
Oh, wow, well, I'll spend like two hours doing this and they'll get bored of the rest of the game. No, I know what you mean.
Geoff 22:34
Yeah, exactly. Right. So it's sort of like one of those things where again, it like you make the family. And then like, you just watch them play out and you just have to take care of their their everyday needs.
Georgie 22:48
Yeah, it doesn't, like it does not interest me. I think I've always disliked the Sims and had no interest in continuing after making a person.
Geoff 22:58
Yeah, yeah. To switch topic completely.
Georgie 23:03
Yeah.
Geoff 23:05
If you've noticed, I'm not actually Googling.
Georgie 23:08
Wait. you talked about this last time?
Geoff 23:10
Have I?
Georgie 23:11
You totally—
Geoff 23:11
I started paying for search?
Georgie 23:13
You started, yeah. And you actually paid for it like, on the pod. Because I screenshot your credit card number.
Geoff 23:19
Oh yeah, right. Right.
Georgie 23:21
No I didn’t, I didn’t.
Geoff 23:22
Okay, it—
Georgie 23:23
How’s it going? Like—
Geoff 23:26
It's going, it's going really good. The thing that’s really interesting is that they changed the payment model apparently before, like a while ago. And a lot of people weren't very happy with the, with the way they changed the payment model.
Georgie 23:39
OK.
Geoff 23:39
Honestly, I have no idea what what the difference is. But they were just it was interesting. It was more interesting to me about how people apparently avoided searching for things. Because they saw it as a cost per search.
Georgie 23:55
Yeah. When you—
Geoff 23:56
So it’s sort of like—
Georgie 23:58
You get like how many free before you pay? Like—
Geoff 24:02
Yeah, you get like 300 free.
Georgie 24:03
Like, that's like a cost. Yeah. So if I started using Kagi, then like, I'd be like, oh, wait, hang on. Just before I make a search, I have to be careful that I'm not just looking up shit, willy-nilly, you know.
Geoff 24:14
But it's like a full on subscription. So it's like you get the, you get the—oh true actually—the pricing model is that to a degree that you are, let's see...
Georgie 24:27
I think for some people, it may be a hard sell because some people especially like non techie, non, many people who aren't super well versed in this, would just accept that searching the internet is is free and it's like why would I pay? Like what are you getting?
Geoff 24:42
To be fair, if you do $5 per month for 300 searches per month, I get that. That in itself is cost per search, right? I have only got 300 and I'm paying $5, I don't want to use all my 300.
Georgie 24:56
Yeah.
Geoff 24:56
On inane searches about cats wearing hats or something.
Georgie 25:02
Do you think it might discourage people from looking up, like, “what is this lump on my arm?” (laughs)
Geoff 25:07
Yeah, it’s like, is this worth my search? But then this $10 per month gets unlimited searches. And that's when you probably stop caring about sort of cost for a search, you probably want to search as much as possible to make the most out of your money. $10.
Georgie 25:24
Yeah. Which reminds me of like, we talked about Ecosia, briefly, like they plant trees for every search that you do. And I always, I'm almost like, annoyed because I use it on my work computer. Almost annoyed that I'm not planning enough trees. I'm curious like how yeah, I mean, I think maybe we should all have a way of finding out how often, how frequently do we search? And how many things do we search a month?
Geoff 25:51
Well, the funny thing about that is, I don't think Kagi tracks any of that on purpose, because they don't track you doing anything. They don't have search history, so they won't, they don't, yeah. So it's actually kind of interesting, not having search history.
Georgie 26:07
Yeah so, I don't really care about it, I don't think. I just look at the history of my browser, which would be fine anyways, right?
Geoff 26:14
That's also true. Yeah, I use Arc browser on Macs.
Georgie 26:20
I haven't heard of that one.
Geoff 26:21
So it's, again, like super, super anti Google level of working. So it's based on Chromium. Anyways, but they they've disabled all of the Google stuff from Chromium. Like you have to log in with a Google account. If you use Google Chrome, you have, you like silently opt into their analytics, etc, etc, etc. But they've built a browser based on Chromium that disables all that tracking things. So they also they, they do the history thing, but actually between different different computers, they don't transfer things like your bookmarks, some of your bookmarks and stuff like that, because it's like localised to your computer. In any case.
Georgie 27:15
Is it free?
Geoff 27:15
So I'm essentially, yes, this it’s free. So at work I'm essentially Google, Google-free at work.
Georgie 27:23
What about, do you use email? Do your company?
Geoff 27:26
Oh, yeah, my company uses like Google stuff. But if I'm on a Mac, use Kagi. And Ark and—
Georgie 27:34
I am, I have been Google-free for ages.
Geoff 27:39
You don’t even have a freaking Gmail account? That’s right.
Georgie 27:41
I fucking hate Google.
Geoff 27:42
Yeah. You might like this. You can like really customise the shit out of it.
Georgie 27:47
Ah, yeah, but remember the time I got an Android in like 2010, I was like, “fuck this shit, it’s too customisable!” Waste my time. Picking colours and shit.
Geoff 27:59
The other thing is that it's actually you know, you remember the days of Neopets and MySpace?
Georgie 28:05
Yeah.
Geoff 28:05
Like Live Journal and things, where you're essentially you get to customise using CSS styling, anything. Arc comes with it built in. You can pick like, you can pick your website, and then you can write custom CSS specifically for that website and have it apply every single day.
Georgie 28:23
Wait can’t you do like, isn’t it something like user agent stylesheet? So you can just like go oh, yeah, like when every time I visit the Guardian, and let's make it Comic Sans.
Geoff 28:30
Yeah, but it's way easier, you get to—
Georgie 28:32
Ah it’s, is it visual UI?
Geoff 28:34
It's kind of, you like pick certain blocks, and you can ask it to delete those. And then you can not use custom CSS. So you can go through change this colour scheme thing as you can see here, on any website you want, you can change their colour scheme. Delete whatever you want off their website. Like if you wanted to read Twitter without the sidebar, just like hey, delete the sidebar, no navigation, and then you centre things and go on your way kind of thing. So it's, it's their whole shtick is like making the web personalised again. So they're trying—
Georgie 29:09
Interesting.
Geoff 29:10
...to give you, the user, way more control over how you experience the internet, again, like back to Tumblr, and stuff like that, you know? So it's quite interesting. They don't have a Windows one, which is why I'm using Google Chrome at the moment.
Georgie 29:28
Gross.
Geoff 29:29
Yeah.
Georgie 29:30
Thought you said you weren’t Google.
Geoff 29:32
I don't have an option on Windows.
Georgie 29:34
Oh get fucked, use Firefox.
Geoff 29:37
Oh, yeah, true.
Georgie 29:38
I use, I use Firefox at work.
Geoff 29:40
I use Brave. I use Brave I suppose. Anyways, so I've gotten I've gotten a bit like slowly getting rid of all the Google stuff except the fact that my email’s still Gmail. But... yeah.
Georgie 29:56
Yeah, why are we using, why are we using Gmail for the pod? Haha.
Geoff 30:00
Well, you know.
Georgie 30:01
Whatever.
Geoff 30:03
It's, it's way more complicated not using Gmail as an email service.
Georgie 30:08
Is it? I just host it.
Geoff 30:09
You don't have Gmail. But yeah, you host it, exactly, right. You have to host that shit.
Georgie 30:14
Just proton, proton.me, Protonmail.
Geoff 30:17
Yeah, Protonmail. You can also use Safari, like Apple's iCloud email like proxy and stuff like that. I barely sign up to things with my email anymore just—
Georgie 30:31
Yeah I use that. Yes.
Geoff 30:35
You don't, you no longer have to make custom emails anymore, for every—
Georgie 30:38
I do have a catch all but yeah, yeah. Every now and then I have to block like or delete one if someone starts trying to contact me under, on one of them.
Geoff 30:49
Yeah. So yeah. Any other news?
Georgie 30:57
Um.
Geoff 30:58
So you're gonna go to the beach today? It's like—
It's like 55 degrees.
Yeah. Gonna give it away for people who live in Sydney what day it is today, but 45 degrees was the max at about three o'clock.
Georgie 31:10
113 Fahrenheit.
Geoff 31:11
Fahrenheit for the Farren heights, heightists.
Georgie 31:16
Yeah, but look, I'm not I'm not a beach person. I actually hate the beach. We're planning to—
Geoff 31:22
I hate the beach too.
Georgie 31:22
Yeah, we're planning to go in the evening when it's cooler when there's no people and not go to one of the most popular beaches because that's a bad idea. I’m actually more—
Geoff 31:33
I wonder what it actually looks like right now. I'm curious, like, is it actually that bad?
Georgie 31:38
I opened Instagram and someone was at the beach and I was like, of course you're at the beach, at noon, and it's like 45 degrees. I couldn't do it. It... I just hate it.
Geoff 31:51
What on earth is this?
Georgie 31:53
The bureau... the Bureau of Meteorology.
Geoff 31:59
Does not support HTTPS.
Georgie 32:02
I disapprove. Disapprove.
Geoff 32:05
How is that possible?
Georgie 32:08
It's cooled right down though because of the wind.
Geoff 32:12
What wind?
Georgie 32:13
You're not getting wind where you are? Shit. It's gonna be windy later apparently.
Geoff 32:19
It's not windy.
Georgie 32:20
So yeah, not a not a beach person. I think pools are different because you can kind of be in the shade and you can still be like, cool, sit in water and stuff. The beach—
Geoff 32:32
20 percent chance of rain today.
Georgie 32:34
This makes no fuckung sense.
Geoff 32:35
It would just evaporate. Just evaporate, right. Yeah.
Georgie 32:43
Yeah.
Geoff 32:44
a lot of people find it. Pretty blasphemous not to be beach people.
Georgie 32:48
In Australia. Slash Sydney.
Geoff 32:49
When you live in Australia.
Georgie 32:51
I don't care. I have never been... I’ve never been a beach person.
Geoff 32:56
Never been a beach person.
Georgie 32:58
Also the fact that swimwear is so fucking expensive. Is—
Geoff 33:02
Oh, what do you mean?
Georgie 33:04
...borderline stupid.
Geoff 33:04
I just saw an ad for...
Georgie 33:06
Sales?
Geoff 33:07
Like $15 bikini.
Georgie 33:09
Okay, yeah. All right. So if you want to get a $15 bikini from H&M—
Geoff 33:14
Not Zara—from H&M, that's the one.
Georgie 33:15
Yeah, you can totally do that. But it's probably like poor quality and stuff. But to get like a good quality like bikini for example. Honestly. Guess, Geoff, how much is each piece, the top and the bottom?
Geoff 33:27
I kind of know this because of friends.
Georgie 33:30
Yeah.
Geoff 33:31
But they can range anywhere from like, I think like $30 to $60 for just one one piece.
Georgie 33:37
OK no, like a really good quality one will be over like $100.
Geoff 33:42
Per piece? Geez.
Georgie 33:42
Per piece. And like I remember you know our friend Monica. She was like, why the fuck would I want to pay like 100 bucks for 14 centimetres for fabric.
Geoff 33:51
Yeah, is that, it's the biggest scam.
Georgie 33:54
Yeah, it's—
Geoff 33:54
The biggest scam.
Georgie 33:55
I mean, I think she made a joke. Like she was like, just wear your underwear.
Geoff 34:00
Oh yeah, no one can tell.
Georgie 34:01
Same but just in like, a different fabric. No, but—
Geoff 34:04
You could also ruin the fabric because I don't think cotton does—
Georgie 34:07
Oh no.
Geoff 34:07
Holds up to like salt, or the chlorine.
Georgie 34:10
Yeah.
Geoff 34:10
So don’t take that as advice.
Georgie 34:10
So what I did recently was I found a warehouse sale where they had swimwear marked down by like a lot and I found a bikini for $10 for both pieces. Ten dollars, fuck yeah bitch. And because I don’t swim a lot—
Geoff 34:26
It’s gonna disintegrate!
Georgie 34:26
It’s gonna last me—haha! No, it was it was good. It was good quality. Like it was even like made in Australia, not, you know, some other large country up north. Over there. So yeah, and because I didn't swim a lot it'll it'll probably last me until I'm like 60 years old.
Geoff 34:44
Ooh, that’s optimistic.
Georgie 34:45
If I stay the same size. Okay, maybe 50. Haha.
Geoff 34:49
Wait it says it feels like 40 but it's actually 21 degrees outside.
Georgie 34:54
Are you sure?
Geoff 34:54
Seems, seems strange.
Georgie 34:57
That doesn't sound right.
Geoff 34:59
Data from Open Mateo? Yes. See, this is... Meteo?
Georgie 35:04
That doesn’t make sense? How is it? That doesn't make sense?
Geoff 35:11
This is, this is why open source is not always good, everybody.
Georgie 35:14
How can it feel like it's 20 degrees?
Geoff 35:17
Well, how can it be 20 degrees but feel, yeah feel, like 40 degrees?
Georgie 35:17
Like where's it getting the info from?
Geoff 35:26
The BOM!
Georgie 35:26
Can you search—
Geoff 35:29
Like, I don't know, either weather forecast API.
Georgie 35:33
I don't know, I just don't know I don't trust it, right.
Geoff 35:36
Yeah.
Georgie 35:36
You can’t even search for...
Geoff 35:40
What is your— oh, we pay for this.
Georgie 35:43
Oh.
Geoff 35:43
No way, we pay for this. Okay.
Georgie 35:45
Wait, wait, go back. Go back. Go back to that incorrect piece of data. What does it actually say? Did we read that right? Like?
Geoff 35:52
Yeah, Sydney weather.
Georgie 35:53
Sydney weather.
Geoff 35:54
21 degrees. Feels like 40.
Georgie 35:56
It’s Celsius, feels like 40... it cannot be 21—
Geoff 36:01
Fahrenheit 69, feels 104.
Georgie 36:03
That can't be right.
Geoff 36:05
And then... the Sydney, view the current Warnings? The BOM is like ridiculous.
Georgie 36:12
It's raining saying it’s windy and partly cloudy. I believe that, it is windy and partly cloudy right now.
Geoff 36:18
Yeah. Oh my god.
Georgie 36:20
You gotta click on Sydney. Click on Sydney on the right hand side.
Geoff 36:23
On the right hand side?
Georgie 36:24
I think so.
Geoff 36:25
This is why, you know, weather it's not an exact science.
Georgie 36:28
Did that work? Oh no, we are on this page.
Geoff 36:30
We are on Sydney.
Georgie 36:31
I want more details.
Geoff 36:32
Today?
Georgie 36:32
Find the detailed, there’s a detailed—
Geoff 36:34
Yeah, find the deet... is there a detailed version? Oh, who cares.
Georgie 36:37
No, go back to the home, no no, I need to know.
Geoff 36:40
We're just living it. This is just living it. 29.6 degrees right now. Max 40. So it‘s actually not—
Georgie 36:46
It's a max of 40, it's not, it's not what it feels—actually wait, the iPhone has a “feels like” on the weather app.
Geoff 36:53
(laughs)
Georgie 36:54
Now I need to know what it tells me, let's let's find out.
Geoff 36:56
I don’t know, why would you trust the iPhone?
Georgie 36:57
OK. It says, well, what does it use? I don't know. So it says now it's actually—OK uh... 33?
Geoff 37:04
My watch says 39.
Georgie 37:06
Oh, but are you doing current location or Sydney?
Geoff 37:09
Yeah, current location I suppose.
Georgie 37:10
OK so Sydney says 33 degrees.
Geoff 37:13
Okay. So if anyone hasn't noticed and whoever, anyone who doesn't live in Australia—
Georgie 37:19
It says it feels like 35.
Geoff 37:20
Specifically Sydney, specifically Sydney, there are two major main topics that exist in this in the sphere of social life here. It is the weather.
Georgie 37:30
I think the weather is like everywhere though.
Geoff 37:32
Which is, I guess pretty common. Yeah, and then housing prices.
Georgie 37:36
Oh yeah don’t even, don’t talk to me about that.
Geoff 37:38
Real estate.
Georgie 37:39
If anyone like, brings that up as a topic, I will tune out immediately. Do not talk to me about housing prices. I don't even eat avocado on toast very much. So. Fuck you. (laughs)
Geoff 37:52
And then sort of like every now and then I get like a, like uh, some kind of comment that I read like this, someone saying you shouldn't blame like the boomers for the housing crisis.
Georgie 38:08
The thing is, I’m not blaming them.
Geoff 38:10
...the government, and then like the response is basically, but you realise that the boomers are the ones who have been electing the exact same officials for the last decade.
Georgie 38:21
Oh. Yeah.
Geoff 38:22
It’s to keep the housing crisis like the the housing the way it is so that they stay rich. And I was like, okay, this is too much. So I just moved on.
Georgie 38:31
it's like, I think people, everyone has an opinion on it. And—
Geoff 38:35
Yeah.
Georgie 38:35
It kind of doesn't really matter what people say or their experience because people who are like of Boomer age will have thoughts and opinions based on property, like when they were younger. Like they don't, they're not actually, if they own a property now and they're not buying anything now or they're not renting them they don't have a clue. So okay, that's what you think. But how can we have a productive discussion? Like how, you can, maybe you can be a little bit empathetic and be like, “oh, okay, gotta pay like 1500 dollars in rent per week—”
Geoff 39:07
“Oh, err, that seems like a lot of money, maybe?”
Georgie 39:11
“One and a half million, oh. My property is worth heaps”. I'm like, Dude, do you have a 100 million to buy something right now? Do you? No, you're just thinking of, urgh. How much did that Glebe place sell for? The one with the 14 bedrooms?
Geoff 39:27
What Glebe place? Oh, 14 bedroom in Glebe. I don't know.
Georgie 39:31
Was it 14 bedroom?
Geoff 39:32
I don't know if it actually, actually sold. Yeah, the 14 sol—wait, 14 bedroom.
Georgie 39:39
Oh, what was it?
Geoff 39:40
No, it wasn't this one. This is one bed one. Yeah, now I can't remember four, 14 bedroom house in Glebe.
Georgie 39:50
Oh, it was on Wigram road. Wigram road.
Geoff 39:54
Wig, wig, Wigram. How did you know?
Georgie 39:56
I vaguely remember. That’s the one.
Geoff 39:58
Oh, here we go.
Georgie 39:59
70 Wigram.
Geoff 39:59
Wow. You vaguely remembered? Still on sale. I'm pretty sure you still can still go see it. For anyone who doesn't know there's an ep, there's an episode, maybe two or three, maybe four episodes ago, we talked about a house that was—
Georgie 40:14
It was called I think the episode was called like—
Geoff 40:16
14 apartments. Really.
Georgie 40:18
Escaping a 14 bedrooms house.
Geoff 40:20
Escaping a 14 bedroom house.
Georgie 40:21
You know, what's funny is I've been too Glebe three times since we talked about it. But I didn't care to go and like, try and look at or find, I just happened to be in Glebe. Yeah,
Geoff 40:31
I mean, if you're walking along, you probably won't see it very well.
Georgie 40:36
It’s in an estate.
Geoff 40:36
It’s fairly elevated. It's very fairly elevated.
Georgie 40:40
Yeah.
Geoff 40:40
And you won't see the whole picture like you would see the front and go oh yeah, it's like a three bedroom, but you wouldn't realise there’s 14. To round off this episode, let's—
Georgie 40:50
Let’s look at the stats. Wait, should we look at the stats?
Geoff 40:54
What stats? Oh, stats, yeah, we should look out for this podcast stats. And we can look at the top records broken in 2023.
Georgie 41:04
Okay. Oh, so speaking of records, I was out at a work thing the other day and someone said, guess what the world record for the number of M&mM picked up with a pair of chopsticks—and eaten—in one minute is?
Geoff 41:22
What? Like... 30?
Georgie 41:26
I think was a bit less than that. It was actually yeah, it wasn't very much. For some reason. I thought, oh, in a minute, I was like oh, 85 or something?
Geoff 41:32
No way. Picked up an M&M with a chopstick—
Georgie 41:36
Well, no, I just thought I was, I thought someone was very skilled at doing so. They could be quite quick. You know. And pick up like—
Geoff 41:43
What about your giant Skittles? Did you try opening, like, did you try picking that up with a chopstick?
Georgie 41:48
No, I just, I just eat them by hand. As if I was gonna—
Geoff 41:51
Pour them. Did you pour them in your mouth?
Georgie 41:55
But yeah, like, is it harder to pick up like M&MS, or Skittles? Or, if they're larger, like?
Geoff 42:01
Maybe. Number one. 29 major records were broken in 2023 World Cup. That's lame. Don't care about sports here.
Georgie 42:13
Yeah, I don't either.
Geoff 42:14
Oh, my god. I think anyone's got a definitive list.
Georgie 42:17
We gotta think of something else to look at.
Geoff 42:18
Not even listicles.
Georgie 42:20
Oh, I know, why don't we talk about Spotify Wrap—nah just kidding. I don’t even use Spot...
Geoff 42:24
Oh yeah Spotify Wrapped, wrapped up.
Georgie 42:26
Did you know that Apple actually has their own thing? They—
Geoff 42:30
I do.
Georgie 42:30
Yeah.
Geoff 42:31
Because—
Georgie 42:31
Do you, wait do you—
Geoff 42:31
A listener of my—ours also uses the Apple wrapped up.
Georgie 42:36
Yeah.
Geoff 42:37
But I do not.
Georgie 42:37
I have. I have Apple. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. Now I've got some bullshit to share.
Geoff 42:43
See, I was thinking about switching to Apple, except like, none of the people that are current, I'm currently sharing Spotify family with are on Apple devices. So it makes it really hard for me to justify, because it right now is what like $4 for me to have Spotify.
Georgie 43:02
Yeah.
Geoff 43:03
And moving to Apple Music means—
Georgie 43:05
17.99.
Geoff 43:05
I spend $20 or whatever. You've got Apple One, and stuff like that.
Georgie 43:10
Yeah, we're actually going to downgrade and then upgrade storage, only to save about 4. dollars. (laughs) But I mean, every dollar counts, but I'm just like, I don't even I don't use Fitness anymore. I tried it out.
Geoff 43:24
Yeah.
Georgie 43:24
Just to try a couple of things. And then like, Arcade, don't even use News don't even use or care about.
Geoff 43:30
Yeah, I've, I've I don't know, like gotten gotten into deleting apps from my phone.
Georgie 43:37
Yes.
Geoff 43:37
So I just like.
Georgie 43:39
Cleanout.
Geoff 43:39
For the past couple of days, just been scrolling through my apps and just deleting things. One of the things that was actually kind of interesting, I was like, why do I have my car insurance app on my phone? Like, I guess in a pinch, you might want to like just do a claim.
Georgie 43:58
Yeah.
Geoff 43:59
But really you just come home open your laptop or something like that. But for those who don't have laptops, sure, but, or computer, you just come home, log in to your, log in at home, why do you, why do I need it as an app? And then probably don't need it?
Georgie 44:16
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 44:18
In any case, I went through and deleted a whole bunch of stuff, was pretty good.
Georgie 44:21
But what if you like need roadside assistance? Would you just just phone them? Instead of going through the app?
Geoff 44:25
Oh roadside assistance? I would use the Tesla roadside assistance, I suppose.
Georgie 44:29
Okay, yeah.
Geoff 44:31
But yeah, I could need roadside assistance. That's true. I'll bring that one back. But yeah, I went and deleted a whole bunch of other apps that I don't need.
Georgie 44:40
You know what I deleted?
Geoff 44:41
What.
Georgie 44:43
I actually deleted the Contacts app.
Geoff 44:46
That's interesting. I actually went through and deleted a bunch of contacts.
Georgie 44:50
Haha.
Geoff 44:51
So maybe I don’t need the contacts app anymore because I delete, I finished deleting contacts.
Georgie 44:54
So the thing is, you can access from the phone.
Geoff 44:58
Oh true.
Georgie 44:58
If you go to the phone app, the contacts are there. And I thought it was quite hilarious that you could just delete the Contacts app. Because why? But also you can hide them now. There are a lot of apps that I hide. I'm like, you do not deserve to be on my home screen—
Geoff 45:13
Why would you hide them?
Georgie 45:15
Let's find out.
Geoff 45:16
I mean no, I delete them from my home screen. And I delete them from the yeah, I prefer to use inside the app library.
Georgie 45:24
Yes.
Geoff 45:24
And I use search more than anything else.
Georgie 45:26
Yes search. So I do not have—even though this is probably one of my most used apps—I do not have Instagram on there. I search every time.
Geoff 45:33
Yeah.
Georgie 45:34
Cos I’m a twat.
Geoff 45:35
You just search, search everything.
Georgie 45:37
Like Australia Post for like tracking stuff, like tracking parcels. Like I don't put that on my home. I don't care to use it. It's only stuff I—
Geoff 45:45
I don't have any, I don't have anything on my home.
Georgie 45:48
Oh, this guy.
Geoff 45:50
I’m zero. Yeah.
Georgie 45:53
I have—
Geoff 45:54
I wish I could create my own groups though. I feel like I've got like five apps that are specifically for work and I want to put them in their own—
Georgie 46:01
Folder? But without making a folder visible on your—
Geoff 46:04
Yeah, without doing that, so that I can access all of my work stuff in the one place instead of like, having it spread out through all of the things. Anyways. Back to the wrap up. We're doing a wrap up of 2023 because in true, and true Toast & Roast fashion we are a) overtime, and b)—
Georgie 46:27
Wait hang on, when are we ever?
Geoff 46:28
Still haven’t got to the topic.
Georgie 46:29
Oh right, yeah, okay.
Geoff 46:31
Still not on topic! All right. Top episodes all time, everybody is still episode one, the... with 85 downloads and then the next one's episode 44 with 53 downloads.
Georgie 46:46
“Ooh la la”. That’s the one.
Geoff 46:47
And then yeah, “Ooh la la”, and episode two, “Food nostalgia”, 39, and episode nine, “Let musicians be artists”, at 39 And then episode 60 “I'd like to be under the sea” at 34. Who freaking knows why these are the top five. Let’s be honest.
Georgie 47:06
OK let’s hazard a guess, right, like “Origin stories and podcasts” is probably because people are like, let's listen to Georgie’s shitty—
Geoff 47:10
It’s the oldest one.
Georgie 47:11
...audio when she didn't have a microphone.
Geoff 47:14
It's the oldest one, so—
Georgie 47:17
Literally.
Geoff 47:18
We do not pay very much for this so we can't tell you the distribution of downloads like are we still getting like one every other month or was all—
Georgie 47:29
It’s just all time. Yeah.
Geoff 47:30
Yeah, it's just all time so, so you, but the numbers 144, 2, 9 and 60. So who knows?
Georgie 47:40
I don't know. What about, what about the ones, what about the episodes we've released this year?
Geoff 47:47
Oh can we—
Georgie 47:48
Well we won't have data for it, but what have we talked about this year? So we can remind people.
Geoff 47:54
Who knows, who knows? I mean like, oh we can actually go scroll through the episodes
Georgie 47:59
Yeah, okay, what was our first episode for this year?
Geoff 48:02
Published episode... okay this year. First episode this year was... “Universal World Time”!
Georgie 48:10
Oh that was honestly, that was one of my faves, I remember that one.
Geoff 48:13
Yeah, what if the world was one timezone? How insane would life be? And then the first one of Feb was “Aurally not orally”. March, “Squashin balls”.
Georgie 48:32
Wait, was that the one about...? No, that was, there, there was an episode more recently that we were talking about the “balls to the wall” thing, the phrase.
Geoff 48:40
Balls to the wall? Yeah, the phrase. This one was, “we try to figure out where 'balls to the wall' came from”.
Georgie 48:45
Oh it was! It was this one.
Geoff 48:50
And then we've got April, “Georgie on tour”. It's Georgie going to more...
Georgie 48:56
Concerts.
Geoff 48:56
Concerts probably. I've got a couple of Kpop concerts lined up as well.
Georgie 49:01
Of course you do.
Geoff 49:01
Next year, next year. “[A] bad case of grooming”. That's a very ambiguous title—
Georgie 49:07
Probably talking about some creepy shit.
Geoff 49:09
Like Epstein or something... “mentions of child”—oh, oh.
Georgie 49:14
“...shitty comments sections on social media incidents where people were or could be unexpectedly in trouble with the law”.
Geoff 49:20
It's, it’s, is this the one about the neighbour—
Georgie 49:25
Google—
Geoff 49:25
No way, the neighbour was—
Georgie 49:26
No that was ages ago, that was literally called “The naked man”. I think this was one might have been the one about like, taking photos on your phone, like for medical purposes.
Geoff 49:36
Oh, it's just uh, yeah. If you have photos of others as kids when you're a kid, maybe?
Georgie 49:44
Yeah. Or you have photos of yourself.
Geoff 49:46
Oh photos of yourself. Yeah, that's right, I think someone was convicted of having photos of themselves as a kid naked. Anyways.
Georgie 49:54
We had our hundredth episode as well.
Geoff 49:56
June, “Cooking up memories”. I think it was another recap in cooking. “If you could walk a hundred miles”.
Georgie 50:04
Oh yeah that was our on episode 100. Yeah.
Geoff 50:08
September, “Grab your coffee below deck” because I started watching Below Deck. I'm still watching it. It's not that interesting anymore.
Georgie 50:16
You know what’s so funny, the one person who also told me that they watched that, was my mum. (laughs)
Geoff 50:26
(laughs) Me and your mum.
Georgie 50:26
Like, she never talks to me about any TV show unless it's like some trashy like, you know, Bachelor or type thing. And then she was like, oh there’s this interesting thing called Below Deck. I'm like, what?
Geoff 50:38
My manager, he says he co watches it because his partner watches it next to him.
Georgie 50:44
Oh he watches it in the background?
Geoff 50:45
Yeah he watches it in the background.
Georgie 50:46
I always do that when Nick watches something and I'm not that interested. I usually end up being the, “I watched it in the background” person.
Geoff 50:52
Yeah, there's very many shows that my partner repeats that I watch in the background. And of course, I remember a lot of it. It's always surprising how much of these episodes I remember. Return of, “Return of Georgie”, that was October too.
Georgie 51:10
Back from holidays.
Geoff 51:12
“Escaping a 14 room house” in November. And then “not gonna lie [ngl], this ep is bussin’”. It was the last one before this one. So yeah, that's a pretty good, pretty good array of things.
Georgie 51:28
Of talking shit, you’re welcome.
Geoff 51:29
And talking shit. Apple podcasts, Spotify, and just Chrome are our top listening methods. Just Chrome. And time of day is usually 1pm. One to 2pm.
Georgie 51:43
Of our time though.
Geoff 51:46
I don't know what timezone, yeah, it's a bit weird. Oh, that's the last seven days.
Georgie 51:52
Oh OK.
Geoff 51:53
And—
Georgie 51:54
Oh location.
Geoff 51:54
Top countries all time is, US, Australia and Germany. So does that mean we don't actually have to explain that much.
Georgie 52:00
(laughs) Wow, I love that, that is what you concluded. I didn't think about that at all.
Geoff 52:07
It's honestly like, I think in the back of my mind, it's how many times do we say “for those who aren’t in Australia” and then we go forth and like explain it.
Georgie 52:18
We still have to explain like, different, like the 401k and the superannuation thing.
Geoff 52:24
Yeah, I mean, this is quite varying actually, United States and then like Australia, and then Germany, which is like right, smack in the middle. Between between our countries. Anyways.
Georgie 52:37
Who’s from Germany? Say hello.
Geoff 52:38
Twelve, I mean, 120—260 downloads, 10% of audience is actually German, or in Germany. And that's it. We're 12 minutes over. So—
Georgie 52:52
Who said we had an actual time though?
Geoff 52:54
Maybe? Maybe we do. Maybe we don't. We just so happen to coincidentally always end at the same time. But I, we, I, what’s the—
Georgie 53:06
We're coming—
Geoff 53:07
Seasos greetings.
Georgie 53:10
Happy holidays.
Geoff 53:11
Happy holidays.
Georgie 53:12
If you go on holidays. I actually don’t, so.
Geoff 53:16
Enjoy celebrating—
Georgie 53:17
We will be having—
Geoff 53:18
...a deity.
Georgie 53:18
A break. So we can't say—
Geoff 53:20
Oh, yes.
Georgie 53:20
Like there is a new episode every Monday. There'll be a new episode every Monday from sometime next month.
Geoff 53:27
Our offices have a shutdown period.
Georgie 53:34
Mandatory—what is it called?
Geoff 53:35
Yeah, mandatory shutdown period. So you will get an episode at some stage after the shutdown period.
Georgie 53:45
In 2024.
Geoff 53:45
2024, so see everybody in 2024. Byeee—
Georgie 53:52
No, you can fol—wait. No, you can't follow us.
Geoff 53:57
You can't follow us anywhere.
Georgie 53:58
You can email us.
Geoff 53:59
Nah you can—
Georgie 54:03
toastroastpod—
Geoff 54:03
...at toastroastpod@gmail.com, you can listen to our podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the big Guinness World Record. What's the last part?
Georgie 54:20
Yeah.
Geoff 54:20
You have to do the last part.
Georgie 54:21
See, well, you just took my part.
Geoff 54:24
Yeah, exactly, so you have to do the last part.
Georgie 54:25
(laughs) We'll see you next year.
Geoff 54:30
Bye.