Fawning over John Oliver and criticising the rest. Which talk show hosts do we like or dislike?
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Fawning over John Oliver and criticising the rest. Which talk show hosts do we like or dislike?
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Georgie 0:09
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of toast and roast. I'm your co host, Georgie, and as always, I'm here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:17
Hello. God, not co host, Geoff anymore. I'm just just,
Georgie 0:23
just Geoff, yeah, I was listening to a podcast where the hope that's co hosts, but the host so it's like a they're a married couple, and the guy started the podcast, and then I think he had his wife on there, and she just refused to be called the co host. She was like, just call me by my name. And he's like, you're not you're like, you're not the co host. Your thing, but you are the co host, because this is our thing.
Geoff 0:54
Yeah, yeah. I also know a podcast where they don't actually call themselves hosts. They basically say us like I am x from and as always, I'm here with, I guess I stole it. As always, I'm here with the boys, just like, and then they just name each other, and they don't even acknowledge hosting or whatever, but they do do rotations, like, there's always a different person. But is it a big starting podcast? This is three people starting the podcast, and so, yeah, I think that's that's definitely a way to go.
Georgie 1:37
I thought about what the podcast would be like if, if it was just one. Because, have you ever listened to a podcast with just one host, one person?
Geoff 1:53
Yeah, I think yes, yes. So I think it tends to always be more specific topics where there's one person speaking, oops, knocking the mic. Sorry.
Georgie 2:08
Yeah. I listened to one like they're a couple. I listened to where they do the intro, and
Geoff 2:13
then I have one pause for a second because, like, yeah, episode one of those podcasts, I'm just reminded of episode one of this podcast where we both said we don't listen to any podcasts.
Georgie 2:31
I'm see okay, so basically, I started listening to more podcasts after I was diagnosed with ADHD, because I started, actually even before that. No was it before or after? Either way around that time, I realized there were podcasts with the topic of ADHD, so I started listening to them, and then I sort of became a bit more open to listening to them, because I realized I need something to listen to while I'm doing housework, otherwise I get bored out of my ass. So like when I'm, you know, washing dishes or ironing or whatever it's it's kind of fine. And I found a podcast, oh man, what's it called? I think it's called the like, fashion or wardrobe crisis. It's quite specifically about, like sustainability in fashion, which is, like, something I care about and is interesting to me. So Claire press, who hosts that she does an intro, and then she usually has an interview with someone, so the part that is just her talking is just the intro, but otherwise she is actually interviewing and talking with someone. But then I came across another one that my friend sent me an episode of, and then I realized she had interviews, but she also had just ones where she was talking for like 20 minutes, and to be honest, I didn't like it very much because it was it maybe I just didn't like the host, but it felt like I was listening to some kind of meditation session, like no no diss on people who just like but I think maybe it just depends on The topic as well. Because you ever watch, like, you know, you watch a YouTube video, yeah, it is sometimes person talking about a topic, and they have visuals and stuff. So in some ways it could be similar to a podcast, but yeah, I'd say it depends on the topic.
Geoff 4:15
Yeah, I think I watch YouTube videos of podcasts more than I listen to podcasts, because I guess they chunk down the podcast to YouTube size videos just like 510, minutes, and it's like a specific topic. So I can target the topics. I think I feel like I do this with music as well, because I don't listen to whole albums. I listen to songs that sound like sound interesting to me, rather than knowing the artist and knowing the album and knowing the whole story behind it. So yeah, so think some notable ones that I've listened slash. Watched, like Lex Friedman kind of interviews, a lot of, I guess, intellectuals, you'd say, you know, like the chess world champion, Magnus Carlson, Elon Musk types, you know,
Georgie 5:16
like thought leaders, kind of thing. Well,
Geoff 5:18
I guess the best in their craft, kind of person, yeah. And then they and he asks thought provoking questions about how they view certain topics and like get gets their take. Well, Magnus Carson being a chess player, he asks like chess like questions, but also sometimes doesn't ask just like questions. So it's kind of interesting in that way, because I guess he, I don't know who this guy is, to be honest, I tried to read it. Read, yeah, the guy who like Lex Street, ah, because he's like, he came out of nowhere on YouTube, to be fair. Like, I didn't know who he was, but he was interviewing a bunch of famous people, oh, computer scientist and podcaster. I feel
Georgie 6:08
like this is interesting. It's kind of like, you know, the hot ones guy, yeah,
Geoff 6:12
the hot ones guy, Sean Evans, yeah,
Georgie 6:15
I think, I mean, I don't know about him, but I know him from that because that's obviously become really popular, and he's a great interviewer. And, yeah,
Geoff 6:25
I think he's a great interviewer too. Yeah, so maybe I'm actually listening for the great interviewing skills, yeah.
Georgie 6:32
And I think it's really cool, actually, like when someone's a great interviewer, because you kind of want to have more of the focus on the person you're interviewing anyway. Like it's not about you. And I think this is probably what makes a good talk show host as well. Yeah, it's like you don't really need to be a big shot. It's kind of like you need to be good at all personable and try to put the spotlight on the person. That's
Geoff 6:59
true. Because I guess in like, if you think of maybe 10 years ago, you'd be talking about Oprah as David Letterman, maybe, yeah, David Letterman, whoever else, Craig, something. Craig Ferguson, whatever his name is. But you know, those, those talk show hosts, are the ones that can get the like, the more prominent figures, more notable figures, because they're part of a, like, a big production, and they have in like resources and things to get connected and get them on. But yeah, they're, I don't think they're particularly good interviewers, particularly engaging. Maybe Kelly Clarkson's show is probably and, yeah, I've heard that it's good. What's his name? What's his name? The couple karaoke guy that turned out really bad, yeah? James Corden, yeah. James Corden, so I liked their ones because they're interviewing artists as artists technically, yeah, so it's a little bit more insightful questions than someone who is just a talk show host, yeah? A gossip person instead of like, yeah, instead of a gossip person. So yeah, there's definitely an art to interviewing, both job wise and and and people. I
Georgie 8:32
think David Letterman is one of the good ones, because then he got his own show, I think, on on Netflix. I think
Geoff 8:39
I, yeah, I think I really liked talk show hosts I got into, well, this is all talk show hosts that's sort by, wait
Georgie 8:55
You can can you do it? By, yeah, can you
Geoff 9:00
blood? I Is there a list of American talk show of course, she does. I like her, yeah, American talk show hosts. That's the only the best and worst. Oh, yes, oh, she's the worst. She honestly doesn't even interview. I don't even think that she provides. She just
Georgie 9:28
says shit, which like, look, I feel like, I think what happens with people like her hosts like hers. It's funny for a little bit, and then it just kind of gets bit old.
Geoff 9:39
Yeah, she, she, from whatever I've seen, she just antagonizes her, her, her, she's the biggest, yeah, yeah. She just antagonizes them and tries to, like, shock factor and like, make your reaction out of them, just for I saw the interview with Dakota. Johnson recently, I
Georgie 10:01
haven't seen it. Yeah, keep that in mind. It's bad,
Geoff 10:04
basically, basically, she accuses Dakota Johnson of not inviting her to a baby shower or event or wedding. That's
Georgie 10:13
the thing with Ellen. I feel like she's awkward, like she makes shit awkward and thinks it's funny, and it's kind of not
Geoff 10:21
and and Dakota Johnson was like, Actually, I did. And Ellen was like, No, you didn't. And Dakota was like, because you made such a big deal about me not inviting you to a different previous party, I made sure to invite you to this one, and you can ask anyone on your staff that, yeah, that I invited you
Georgie 10:46
wait, so did Ellen, like, lie to did she make? Make? Yeah,
Geoff 10:49
I don't I, yeah, I don't know. Like she, she just wanted, it gets a, it's a, it's a, like, a psychopathic response. She's trying to just like, Oh, you didn't invite me because you don't like me and like attention seeking, yeah? Attention seeking, right? Jesus Christ. So that was, like a wild thing, but you should watch the whole interview. Yeah, I don't know who Wendy Williams is, probably, I don't know it's not the tennis person. Lily Singh had the potential. She's a YouTuber that
Georgie 11:27
I think I've heard of her, but I think I've actually really seen anything with her. She's
Geoff 11:31
like comedic ish on on YouTube that she actually got a real talk show, funded talk show, but she really flopped. The Rotten Tomatoes is measly 20% that's really bad, contrast to the critic score, which sits at 90% really interesting. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy
Georgie 11:57
Fallon is boring, like, I don't know he's, I don't know, just meh. He's mid Yeah,
Geoff 12:05
yeah. I remember, like, I didn't think he was too bad. Like,
Georgie 12:10
he seems like a nice he's like, an okay person, but as a host, I just like
Geoff 12:15
nice. All I know is that he Yeah. This is flack for constantly interrupting his guests as they tell stories laughing at a drop of a hat. Yeah, he's pretty chaotic neutral. Shout out to our recent episode, but yeah, there's lots of things around this guy, like he does laugh at a drop of a hat, but I've also read reports that he's just that kind of guy who just sort of like, is not anticipates the punch line. But yeah, he's, he's sort of like, easy to easy to make fun. No, he's easy to laugh. Essentially, he's easy to laugh at a drop of a hat, because that's the type of person he is. Yeah, you're telling a story, and it's like, sounds kind of funny. You could laugh at any point in time, because you're like, Oh, this is probably going to be really funny, but that's what he does, and I don't think that makes really good talk show host. Anyways, yeah, Jimmy Kimmel,
Georgie 13:23
yeah, I'm trying to Kimmel look like, yeah, I need to remember,
Geoff 13:28
neither. Remember the faces.
Georgie 13:29
Oh, this guy. I fucking hate this guy,
Geoff 13:33
this guy.
Georgie 13:34
I hate this guy. Yeah, oh, I don't think he's very funny,
Geoff 13:38
yeah. I think he had like a mid to me.
Georgie 13:41
Didn't he have, like, oh, celebrities read like, tweets or something about them. That was oh, that was him, yeah. But then it just got not so funny. So I don't know, James
Geoff 13:52
Corden, yeah, so I think Yeah. James Corden also did some weird stuff. I think he did. He did some game shows, stuff that didn't really go down. Bro kappa. Karaoke is definitely the his biggest hit. But he got some like, blind tasting, I think, or whatever. Uh, Conan O'Brien. Conan
Georgie 14:13
O'Brien's fun. He's He's a bit awkward, but I think that's why it's funny, like it's, that's what makes it funny.
Geoff 14:19
He's a bit chaotic, too. Tyra Banks, I didn't know she was a talk show host. Hassan Minhaj, I think this guy had, this guy has too many jump cuts. He's like a five cameras, and he keeps changing camera direct, like, camera angle.
Georgie 14:38
Oh, this guy, okay, I, I don't know, sometimes I see video YouTube videos where they do a lot of the camera, and I'm like, that's just kind of awkward. It feels awkward when you watch someone who does too many of those, yeah, I
Geoff 14:51
think he recently, oh, he recently interviewed Barack Obama, and I think that was okay, but he really. Like, I felt like he was trying to pull out Barack Obama's chaos. Like chaotic side now, talking about chaos all the time, but you know, like Barack Obama, whenever he speaks generally, sounds very prepared. Like, yes,
Georgie 15:19
he's well composed.
Geoff 15:21
He's well composed. And Hassan really tried to push him to be less composed, because that's what, apparently, when, when Barack Obama was president, that's his major critic. He He didn't actually show any, I guess. Like, is it like a human side? Yeah, yeah, human side to him. He
Georgie 15:44
just feels rehearsed most time, even if he sounds really nice, yeah,
Geoff 15:48
like he says, I know this is shit, but in a very composed way which people don't relate to. Whereas you could say, I know this is shit, and people will just like, gravitate to that phrase. Yeah. So
Georgie 16:03
wait, was it good? What was the interview? Good? Though,
Geoff 16:06
I think from what he got out of Barack Obama was good, but I don't think I enjoyed the way he got out, got it out of him, because it was very interrupted, interrupted. So that's not a good to be answers. He's just like, I don't, I don't. It's like, he's like, I don't want this, like, PR spiel, like, give me the real take. And I'm like, he's giving you the real take. He's just this type of person. Yeah,
Georgie 16:33
I think in that sense, you might have to actually just ask questions differently, rather than interrupting, like, you gotta, like, probe deeper, be like, Okay, on that point, like, yeah, yeah,
Geoff 16:46
yeah, yeah, give let them answer, and then, like, push, push it in a different way. If you didn't get the correct that, like, the right phrasing that you wanted, like, the Yeah,
Georgie 16:55
I think the thing with a good, like, a good interviewer, will also turn it more into a conversation, rather than, you know, a B, A, B, like, ask question answer. Ask question answer. But you will, like, ask, like, based on the answer you might, you know, like, converse about something related to that. Yeah,
Geoff 17:12
that's what. That's what I think I enjoy most. Like, the style I enjoy most when doing job interviews as well, like, if I don't actually have to try and, like, answer a specific question. And every, every time they ask me something like, oh, you mentioned this before, tell me a bit more about that, and then they want to just dive into your high level story. That's probably my bet, like, the best interview. But of course, that that has a risk, right? You? It risks that you don't actually get the thing that you actually needed out of the person by the end of the like, 40 minutes. It was, like, too broad,
Georgie 17:53
kind of, I
Geoff 17:54
mean, like, it's too conversational, because then, like, you'll miss out on questions, like you needed to know this aspect of them, but the story never got there. Yeah? Or, like, your line of
Georgie 18:06
hone in after a bit. Like, you can chat and get to know each other, but then you have to get Yeah, make sure you remember why you're there,
Geoff 18:13
yeah. So I think, I think you're right. The balance is, to me, for me, is that you start in the conversational area so that, like, it kind of gets more relaxed, like you're having a conversation, and then you kind of like, yeah, focus in on the question. The questions that like, Tell me about a time when you like, do some shit, yeah. So yeah, that's not good with Trevor Noah. I don't wait what happened with Trevor? Noah, I don't know anything about you. Don't know if he's
Georgie 18:46
I think he's done some funny thing interviews or something. I don't know. I
Geoff 18:51
think he's supposed to be funny, but I don't find him funny. Like, I don't know. I haven't watched any interviews really, with him. Seriously, it's like Arsenio.
Georgie 19:03
Who's that? Rick? Who are you talking about?
Geoff 19:13
Arsenio Hall, yeah.
Georgie 19:16
Oh, so familiar. So
Geoff 19:19
he All I know is that he comes out on stage and then introduces the guest, and that's like, I don't know if it's like the music segment or something about that, but he's, Yeah, he's too monotone, I guess. Yeah. Stephen Colbert,
Georgie 19:41
I don't like him. Oh, really, I just don't like his vibe. Like, oh, no, you know, I
Geoff 19:49
think specific what I
Georgie 19:51
don't like is when he impersonates other people and does other people's voices. Oh.
Geoff 19:58
Very irritating. I find that such a go to thing for all of these like dog show hosts, they really like to ask about get their guests impersonations. I don't know if,
Georgie 20:14
but like he does, but Stephen covid Does the impersonations like when he's talking about the previous president of the Yeah, I'm talking about,
Geoff 20:27
I've never, I've never, I've never seen him do an impersonation, but I can imagine he does them
Georgie 20:33
anyway. I'm talking about Donald Trump. I can say that, but
Geoff 20:36
he did. He's just done our podcast. We're not going to be persecuted.
Georgie 20:39
But, I mean, I don't want to talk about Donald Trump, but yeah, Stephen covid did, like an impersonation of him. And I was just like, oh my god, stop. But also, just don't impersonate Donald Trump. I'm just like, yeah, yeah. Stop integrating that dude's persona.
Geoff 20:55
I think I only liked one of his skits, or whatever, his segments where he went really, really nerdy on what's the name Lord of the Rings? Like, he knows elvish, and he's read like, very deeply, very deeply into like, Lord of the Rings lore and Tolkien. Tolkien, so I think he was interview, interviewing the actress of Dick Galadriel, or something like that. What's it? Oh, no, I'm gonna get this wrong, but yeah, he interviewed. He was interviewing a an actor, an actress from Lord of the Rings, and was flexing his, his knowledge the topic, yeah, and it was, it was, it was humorous, but yeah, I guess I enjoyed the the more intellect and yeah, like, rather than his actual interviewing, we don't need to talk about Oprah,
Georgie 22:01
Yeah. But we're hanging on like, I feel like Oprah's like she was good, but now I don't care anymore.
Geoff 22:06
Is she on a different show?
Georgie 22:08
I have no idea. I thought she has her own show, but it's it keeps moving networks or something. I don't know.
Geoff 22:15
Yeah,
Georgie 22:16
I feel like, I think she got those control controversy around when she interviewed Prince Harry. And I don't know what her title is, but yeah, yeah, me and Michael, yeah. But, like, what do you call her? Well, they left the royal family. She's, I mean, yeah, Duchess of is it no Sussex or Cambridge?
Geoff 22:40
I don't know,
Georgie 22:42
but, yeah, I think when Oprah interviewed them, people were saying that it was set up in a way to favor that, like there was, yeah, it was sensationalized, compromised
Geoff 22:52
Duchess of Sussex. Yeah, they, I mean, she's, now, I guess, not, a talk show host. She's, maybe she can duck did, which was oh, 22,009 oh, and then, and then she did nothing for till 2021, I don't know, either way. She's not in the Yeah. I
Georgie 23:16
don't know what she does these days. But I mean, what do you mean? A woman needs their introduction?
Geoff 23:21
Basically, yeah, I like how her media company is Harpo. It's like, oh, is
Georgie 23:29
it Oh, is it her name backwards? Yeah, it's
Geoff 23:32
her name back.
Georgie 23:32
I don't even know.
Geoff 23:36
Yeah, Harpo. Let's see Harpo, yeah, Harpo Productions. Oh, my
Georgie 23:44
God, I had no idea.
Geoff 23:48
Fun fact. And then Graham Norton, I think, is mine. Yeah, he's great. Like,
Georgie 23:52
I do enjoy watching, like, Graham Norton videos.
Geoff 23:59
He I mean, first of all, his is the only talk show that gathers groups,
Georgie 24:06
yeah, and so you get this interesting dynamic,
Geoff 24:09
yeah, where, where actors and actresses are like fans of each other, and they like, mega, mega. Fan out. Fan Yeah, fan girl, over, over each other, and it's pretty, pretty fun. Um, that's also,
Georgie 24:25
yeah. Another reason why Graham Norton gets my number one spot is he actually lets his guests talk and finish his story without interrupting. Yeah, skill set that Jimmy Fallon could do well tell it
Geoff 24:37
exactly, yeah, yeah. I really, I really, like, like, he Yeah, on that point, he lets them, he lets them finish their story, and then like, shows them, shows up a picture or a video of like, emphasizing their emphasizing their story. It's kind of funny. And I think he's the only one that strikes the balance of like, jokingly and. Insulting and jokingly, joking quite well, because he'll say something that puts them down, but raises, like, raises the humor level. Like, quite hard. It's
Georgie 25:11
not, like, massively offensive, yeah, it's
Geoff 25:13
not massively offensive, and not to the point where it gets, like, an awkward, awkward pause after it. And not like, Ellen's like, painful. It's like a painful to watch, because whenever she reveal, like, she she reveals something that's embarrassing, but to embarrass them, man,
Georgie 25:32
I still, I can't, still think about that Mariah Carey.
Geoff 25:35
Do you remember the Marie I don't remember the Mariah Carey.
Georgie 25:38
She tried to get Mariah Carey to drink some alcohol to make a point that she wasn't pregnant. But it was just like, super
Geoff 25:49
toxic, yeah. Like, that's the that's the definition of using insider information as a celebrity to make other celebrities, like, uncomfortable or fool or just like, for your own gain. Essentially, she wants entertainment. She's using your secrets to make an entertaining
Georgie 26:08
thing. Yeah, subjective entertainment is subject
Geoff 26:13
especially when she does the whole like, Oh, I hear you're scared of bears. Turn around and there's a bit like a person, oh, my god, yeah. Like, that's, I get out. Like, that's not even humor. It's
Georgie 26:26
not funny to like, basically prey on people. And, yeah, yeah,
Geoff 26:33
definitely. Oh, another toast. That's probably not on here because he does news, uh, John Oliver last week. Oh, my
Georgie 26:42
God. I love, I love,
Geoff 26:44
I love. John Oliver mentioned
Georgie 26:50
I we saw him live one time. And really, yeah, yeah. And maybe this is not really a spoiler, but at the end he came, I was like, thanks for coming. Like, sort of like, on call, but like, Q A kind of thing. And I think he just wanted people to shout out questions. And someone was, I don't know why, but someone was like, Have you ever loved? What was that? Have you ever loved? It was just funny. Like, yeah, but I like his Annunciation of words and how he's just and the way he kind of laughs at himself too isn't taken too seriously. He's like, You will not let me do that. You will not.
Geoff 27:32
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the segments or segments that really got me in, got me to, like, really enjoy. John Oliver was his expose on tax benefit. Tax benefits, tax write off benefits for religious, religious companies or whatever. I think I say that one. Yeah, so. So basically, in America, the any religious Corporation gets a lot of tax benefits. They can write anything off, right? So, but the definition of a religious Yeah, definition of a religious corporation, or whatever is very loose, like it is a you have to have a common place of congregation where 50 or more people can, like, oh, 20 or more people come together weekly. So he's like, I check that box. And then you have to have one leader I check that box. So basically, he made his Last Week Tonight Show a church. And then he's like, I'm gonna see how far I can push this. Yeah. And it's just so it was just so good, the way he, like, where he orchestrated it, and have the boundaries he's pushing, and like, Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, he's, he said, like, BBC would probably hate me for this, but I'm going to do it anyway. Yeah, yeah, hilarious. Because, yeah, it's like, it's like all of these religions are obviously a pyramid scheme. They're asking you to send them money and and by the God, by the will of God, they will give you $2 in exchange. But then when you get that $2 in exchange, you have to re give it back to them. So you invest in your like, it's just a full on pyramid scheme and then, and so he's just, like, making a mockery of it, but also making is a really good point, also making it super serious topic that this can't be allowed anymore. So, yeah, I like his blend of news. Yeah.
Georgie 29:38
He also, yeah, he kind of, I think he's a little bit, um, like you said, he kind of just pushes it a little bit like he's a bit, uh, obnoxious. Maybe, yeah,
Geoff 29:50
I'd say so yeah.
Georgie 29:51
And I remember when, when he interviewed Edward Snowden, and, like, just his reaction to Edward Snowden, actually. Showing up. He was like, holy shit. Edward Snowden, he actually came.
Geoff 30:08
Oh, man. I mean, that's not, that's a normal person's reaction. Like, you ask somebody to come to your show, you're not, like, maybe 100% sure they're gonna show up, but if they do, like, holy shit, you actually showed up. Yeah,
Georgie 30:21
I think he's a very well, like, a down to earth guy, John Oliver, so I think that's why I like him. Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 30:28
I knew I know him from community, the TV show. I know him as an actor first, and like, he's got a new talk show, like, HBO, sorry, he's got a talk show, but a news talk show that's unlikely to be like that good, but he's, he's really good at, um Yeah, delivering serious news. It's like,
Speaker 1 31:01
not only can they do this, but they can also do this outrageous in the night. Yeah,
Georgie 31:07
he's so good.
Geoff 31:11
Oh, man. So yeah, I haven't watched any of his segments lately. I think they've like, they've gone they've gotten lost in the YouTube algorithm. Because, yeah, he's definitely not the kind of content they push in the algorithm. If you think about it like, yeah, he's not an influencer. He He brings up really serious topic, topics that aren't really widely appealing. So, yeah. But out of all of these people, probably Graham Norton is the only one I actively like. If I saw his video come up on YouTube, I click it. Watch it. Irrespective, yeah, you're right. Actually all the others, yeah, I
Georgie 31:56
wouldn't. I would just be like, yeah, Conan, whatever I feel like Conan is just always coming up as well. I'm like, saying that,
Geoff 32:07
yeah, oh, wait, didn't I say I went to see Ali Wong, you did this episode, but
Georgie 32:12
not on the I don't think you said it on the pod. Watched Ali Wong, like, can I ask? How was she considering, like, she got divorced, like, what last year was a couple? That's her
Geoff 32:25
opening joke. Yeah, her opening
Georgie 32:30
JB was, like, bombed that a lot of her jokes when she was married, like, included mentioning, like, her husband or ex husband now, and they felt weird. Like listening to those jokes, I felt sad, and I'm like, Yeah, but just because someone's life, A Comedian's life status, like kind of changes, does it mean they're not gonna still be funny, or they that they can't make jokes about stuff? Yeah,
Geoff 32:56
yeah. I mean, when I listened to her previous like, Netflix specials and whatever I felt, I felt like, man, her husband has it rough,
Georgie 33:10
because she's quite unquote,
Geoff 33:14
yeah, and I know it's kind of a joke, but you could, you could see, you could see like, Because the husband's obviously human, like some some of that might get on the nerves. But who am I to speak about their home life? But essentially, she's just like, as you may all know, I, I got divorced, and it's the best thing in the world, and she goes on basically her entire arc was how, like, how it kind of like feels to be empowered in such a in a way. But of course, in true Ali Wong nature, it's all it's all about sex, yeah, and it's, it's she, she kind of like, explained her view on the dynamic of getting divorced. That. How old is she? Like, in her mid, the mid 40s.
Georgie 34:13
Yeah, 40s ally, long age.
Geoff 34:20
Yeah, she's 42 so she got divorced two years ago. So she's had two years of being divorced, and she's like, women, women, I highly recommend getting divorced at 40 Yes, because, because, like, she was like, her opening, her opening, like statement was sort of like, because the ray age range, yeah, is so wide for a 40 year old a woman, because you could date 55 or you could date 25 and she, like, she obviously made a joke about going going to town and Like. Like, like, just fucking and dropping and things like that, yeah, really being promiscuous, and she's just an, okay, chaotic, like, Bitch era, whatever. Yeah, she's like, Dick down and everything like that. So it was, it was quite humorous about, like, how she was kind of just making, I think it was, it's still funny, like, it's still, yeah, it's been, she's
Georgie 35:24
not specifically even about, like, it's not even specifically about her divorce, or like, the fact that she's divorced, like she's still dating, I guess stuff. And a lot of people can relate, whether you're divorced or not, like, exactly, might just want to go and fuck
Geoff 35:45
Dick down. She wants to get Dick down. Yeah, I noticed that she was a lot shorter than I can imagine. Because, well, one thing, short person, right? The opening I think she's as short as you. But, yeah, the opening act was Shang Wang.
Georgie 36:04
Who's that again? Oh,
Geoff 36:05
he's a comedian on Netflix. He's also got an ethic special, but he also writes for fresh off the boat and things like that. That's they're close friends. She opens for him sometimes, I think, in, yeah, in the comedy world. But he's fairly tall, so when she came out, might have been just like a like, a half is height. So I think so, yeah, I think it's pretty funny. And a lot
Georgie 36:34
of people were there, obviously, yeah, because you said, like you'd never, did you say you never been to like a comedy show them person, yeah, yeah. What did you think of it? Because you said that, like, you weren't really, like, down with the idea of, like, watching a comedian with other people live, when you could just watch it online. Ah.
Geoff 36:52
I mean, it's the same with concerts nowadays, because I've been to a few concerts now and there is, I guess I appreciate the appeal. I also appreciate the amount of prep. And like they are, they're like, seeing it live. You can tell there's no editing, I suppose. And you can just like, trust, trust it, that it's authentic. And they, I mean, there was a couple of mistakes, but, oh no, I think I only noticed, at least for like there was gonna be, there's at least one mistake or one stutter. I mean, that's a pretty impressive for an hour, you pumped out your material non stop for an hour and only had one stutter. That's like, impressive. So the art is quite impressive as well. She didn't pick on anyone in the crowd, because I don't think that's the type of comedian. Yeah, another funny segment was like, she, I can't remember what it was specifically about, so no spoilers, but she was telling a story about how she she would drop, drop the suitor after two weeks. Because after two weeks, they'll, they'll get ideas of a relationship that's a problem for her, or like, four weeks, or something like that. But so, yeah, one of this, one of these directors that she was, she was sleeping with, yeah, well, she wanted to drop him, and he's like, why she's she came up with every excuse. He goes, Don't bullshit me. What's the real reason? And then she went on a, on a, on a rant about, like, some kind of, like, pussy monster, kind of, like, it was just obviously a caricature. Yeah, caricature. Monster
Georgie 38:42
just wanted like,
Geoff 38:44
I mean, I don't know, like, she's basically acting like a monster. I can't remember exactly why, yeah. And then she's just like, feed me. And then like, and you know, that kind of demeanor, and then she's just like, I like somebody who thinks I'm funny, and this guy said I wasn't funny. And the point, the case in point, I was doing that bit whilst, like, in front of him. That's where I came up with the joke in that moment, because she was, like, doing, she was actually doing it in real life in front of him, and she said, and he said, That's not funny. And then she's like, I don't like that. So now that you've all seen it, it's, it's clearly funny, but he didn't find it funny at the time. So yeah, she took, she took, like, a real life story, and then she actually, like, like, came up with a joke in the moment and then wrote it down and then performed it. So she's just like doing the whole Taylor Swift thing, like making up all these songs based on her previous
Georgie 39:48
I mean, that's what comedians do. I feel like pretty much everything is but then I the thing that I don't think anyone will ever really know is how much of comedians jokes are actually like. Sensationalized, yeah. Like, did you really, did
Geoff 40:05
you, yeah, I assume, by default that they're sensationalized. I mean, other than Yeah,
Georgie 40:11
I mean, you don't really think about it when you're watching, right? You just go, oh, that's hilarious, yeah, yeah.
Geoff 40:17
But because they she broke, she technically broke the fourth wall. She's like, this is not a sensationalized story. I did it in real life. They told me it wasn't funny, so I did it on stage and proved to them not funny. It was funny. So it was like breaking the fourth wall, I guess, unless, of course, that was sensationalized too. But I mean, it's all for the I mean entertainment, or, like, Photoshop, Photoshop, yeah, anyways, you know what's not Photoshop to the ending of this episode, yes,
Georgie 40:50
so you can edit it.
Geoff 40:53
Never it's all unedited, except for the times I had to edit it. I mean, we are too lazy to edit these days. And you can believe that, yes, yes, anyone who knows me anyways, you can, you can find us on nowhere, but you can email us on At toast. Rose pod, no toast. Rose pod@pm.me email us toast, roast
Georgie 41:22
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Geoff 41:33
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Georgie 41:37
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Geoff 41:45
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