We start strong with some movie references, but quickly tangent into a conversation about how people find it difficult to recollect traumatic memories, let alone correctly recollect regular stories... Which extends into us attempting to recollect phones we used to own. Full disclaimer: none of what we talk about may be correct in the slightest.
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We start strong with some movie references, but quickly tangent into a conversation about how people find it difficult to recollect traumatic memories, let alone correctly recollect regular stories... Which extends into us attempting to recollect phones we used to own. Full disclaimer: none of what we talk about may be correct in the slightest.
Geoff’s old Phones:
Georgie‘s old Phones (chronological):
Social media
Toast & Roast:
Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:00
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Toast & Roast. I’m your co host Georgie and I’m here with Geoff.
Geoff 0:07
Sup.
Georgie 0:11
Hey, when are, when are you going to do you, jump, your 21 Jump Street.
Geoff 0:14
Oh, 21 Jump Street thing. I thought I already did it in the last one. My name Geoff.
Georgie 0:20
You didn’t.
Geoff 0:23
I honestly—
Georgie 0:24
When are you gonna do the hey, Georgie, do you want a balloon thing?
Geoff 0:27
Hey Georgie... my name Geoff?
Georgie 0:34
Yeah, I think we missed the opportunity. I think we were gonna do that in the movie episode.
Geoff 0:39
Yeah, well, the thing is like, it was a bit strange when I when someone told me about it to begin with. They were like, they just, you know, they said, “What’s your name?” And I said, “Oh, my name’s Geoff”. And they just burst out laughing. Like, what? “My name Geoff”.
Georgie 0:58
Had you seen?
Geoff 0:59
Yes, my name—no I hadn’t seen it. So I was really confused. They were just like cacking it. And like repeating the words, “my name Geoff”. And then when they realised that I was genuinely confused as to what they were talking about. They’re like, oh, it’s from this movie called 22 Jump Street or whatever. And then I started educating other people. So I went and watched the movie. And I still cacked it even though I knew it was coming.
Georgie 1:27
Yeah, yeah. Actually, I saw the movie for the first time. Like, because you told me about it. Like, maybe a couple years after we met. And I had no idea what you were talking about. And I think I saw, I think I watched the movie at home. Like might have been within the past year. And that was the first time I saw it. I was like, ah, it’s the best! I think I looked up the looked up just that scene on—
Geoff 1:51
Oh yeah, YouTube.
Georgie 1:52
But then to see it in what in the movie. I was like, oh, yeah, I was like waiting for that moment.
Geoff 1:58
Yeah, it is. So kind of a surprise because it’s like it’s two dudes who are going to go, as a as a cop duo to go like, intercept a drug deal or something like that. And it’s really funny, because what’s his name? I can’t remember his name, short and fat. He goes off on this huge like—
Georgie 2:19
Oh what’s his name. Jude—not, not dude. Damn it.
Geoff 2:23
22 Jump Street.
Georgie 2:25
I have forgotten.
Geoff 2:28
Something Jonah.
Georgie 2:32
Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill.
Geoff 2:33
Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill.
Georgie 2:34
Yeah.
Geoff 2:36
Jonah Hill. Yeah.
Georgie 2:37
The other guys is Channing Tatum?
Geoff 2:39
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s still funny because Jonah Hill goes on this long ass backstory about how he’s from like, the hood and like, he’s from Mexico and stuff like that. And, and then he just says, This is my associate, and then Channing Tatum is, like, “my name Geoff”.
Georgie 3:01
Isn’t at the moment at which they were like, oh you guys are fake? And then—
Geoff 3:04
Yeah, I feel like—
Georgie 3:05
Is that when they—yeah.
Geoff 3:07
I mean, you can strong silent people in the drug abuse business all the time. I’d be I’d be concerned slash suspicious of anyone that’s over exposing, you know, like answering questions that have never been answered—never asked and, and like over answering. I think.
Georgie 3:27
But then—
Geoff 3:27
I watched a YouTube video of someone who’s integrity, integro? Interrogator? And they like set the—
Georgie 3:32
Interrogator?
Geoff 3:33
Yeah, one of those things.
Georgie 3:35
But you can tell when you watch the movie, but I think it’s supposed to be a little bit like, you can pick up on it because it’s supposed to be a bit of a comedy. Like the whole thing is quite funny.
Geoff 3:44
Yeah. Yeah. I can’t believe how many of these movies there were, like 21 Jump Street. And then 22—
Georgie 3:51
That was a remake of the original, wasn’t it?
Geoff 3:55
No, I think it was original.
Georgie 3:57
Yeah, no I mean, 21—
Geoff 4:01
21, oh, was a remake? Yeah. Yeah. 21.
Georgie 4:03
Yeah. And then. I don’t know, is 22 I assume is the sequel of the remake. So there wasn’t an original does 21, 22 Jump Street? I think. I don’t know.
Geoff 4:15
Yeah.
Georgie 4:15
We don’t know anything about movies...
Geoff 4:18
21 Jump Street was like that. Trying to go into high school as older people and then 22 Jump Street it’s like after making their way through high school twice, big, big changes are in store for the officers. And then they go into college.
Georgie 4:33
Oh, yeah, that’s right. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah.
Geoff 4:36
Yeah. But yeah, I think it’s pretty hilarious. My name Geoff! And then of course, like hey, Georgie, from the I.T.
Georgie 4:45
It?
Geoff 4:46
Or It.
Georgie 4:47
You say It or I.T.?
Geoff 4:47
Yeah, It.
Georgie 4:50
Yeah.
Geoff 4:52
It.
Georgie 4:54
Which is based on obviously. It’s a book by Stephen King.
Geoff 4:59
Yeah. Have you seen—
Georgie 5:01
Didn’t they remake—I actually haven’t. I have read the book. But it was such a long time ago. Probably before I was woke, you know?
Geoff 5:10
Are you into horror?
Georgie 5:13
I am not. But my friend said she she started reading the book and she was horrified about I think the homophobic slurs and other other things. Like yeah. Which I mean, I actually don’t remember because it’s been such a long time since I’ve read the book. Also, it is not why I named my blog Hey, Georgie.
Geoff 5:35
Hey Georgie.I think—
Georgie 5:36
But it’s funny when you look it up. When you look up “Hey Georgie” I am in the in the search results. But then you see a bunch of like, Pennywise. And the clown...
Geoff 5:46
Georgie Pennywise scene.
Georgie 5:50
Yeah.
Geoff 5:50
Yeah.
Georgie 5:50
I mean, I yeah, I don’t like horror. And I haven’t actually seen the movie It.
Geoff 5:58
So the interesting thing that I got, like, took away from that movie was that I think everyone’s parents were just shitty. I think it was just shit parents all around, yeah the whole crew, group of children with shitty parents. And then they—
Georgie 6:14
So what happens in the, cos, I actually I don’t remember a thing. Like I find it embarrassing. I don’t even remember the book.
Geoff 6:22
I don’t remember the movie.
Georgie 6:24
Must not have been that good. (laughs) But they re-did like a couple years ago, didn’t they? I mean, I don’t know what it was because I haven’t seen any of them.
Geoff 6:35
It movie. 2017. And then there’s a 1991. Yeah. 43 percent... 67% Rotten Tomatoes. The thing is, I think the story is—
Georgie 6:51
Average, isn’t it?
Geoff 6:53
Yeah, I think the story is like, well, all I can remember is that this kid named Georgie was walking down the street in the rain and his coat and he found a balloon. And then he went down to pick it up at like a storm drain type thing. And then he got—
Georgie 7:08
And the clown Pennywise was in there.
Geoff 7:14
He got taken. Yeah, by Pennywise and then a bunch of kids are like, where’s Georgie? And then they’re like went on a journey to find out who Georgie—oh who Georgie is? Where Georgie is. They find Georgie in a cavern with a spider dude, which is the clown.
Georgie 7:26
(laughs)
Geoff 7:28
That was probably entirely incorrect. But that’s the recollection.
Georgie 7:33
Yeah.
Geoff 7:33
By Geoff. And there’s a Chapter Two. Don’t forget Chapter Two.
Georgie 7:38
Speaking of the old version—
Geoff 7:39
And they’re all grown up. Yeah?
Georgie 7:42
Did you know that—and I read an article, which was actually was maybe it was, it was an article that mentioned like a study that they did into people who had been in New York around the time of 911. And they interviewed these people, like the week of the incident, you know, what did you see? How did you feel? And then they did subsequent interviews, like five years later, 10 years later. And they found that—and they recorded each, like the memories they remembered. And they found that over the course of time, they actually misremembered things. They started, like things started to become fuzzy, and they sometimes even introduce things into the memories that were not originally there. Like, I mean, not on purpose, but because the apparently the more we remember memories, the less accurate they end up becoming.
Geoff 8:49
Yeah, I get called out for doing this all the time where I just tell a story. And—
Georgie 8:54
You remembered it wrong?
Geoff 8:54
It’s like, it’s like 80% wrong.
Georgie 9:00
Yeah, yeah.
Geoff 9:01
I had some of my siblings listen to our origin stories podcast, and they were like, Geoff—
Georgie 9:06
Did they call you out?
Geoff 9:08
That’s like, like, 50 60% of that was in the wrong order. And I was just like, I don’t care. I wasn’t even alive.
Georgie 9:16
Wow.
Geoff 9:16
I couldn’t remember things.
Georgie 9:19
So how old? How old are your siblings compared to yourself?
Geoff 9:24
It’s a good question. Um, so I’m 30, we are 30 I guess. My younger brother is 26, 27. My next oldest sister is 34. And the next one up is 37? 38? So we’re all about three or four years.
Georgie 9:52
Somewhere in the middle.
Geoff 9:53
...between us.
Georgie 9:53
Yeah, that’s a pretty, I think that’s a pretty big age gap. So like I have one younger brother and he’s four years younger than me. So I think he’s—oh I can’t do the maths.
Geoff 10:04
26, 27? Yeah.
Georgie 10:07
Whatever. Yeah, basically four, four years, and quite recently, as in in the past one to two years, we would have like a chat like, in, in our family about something that happened to my brother, when he was in year three. So year three is about like what? So yeah, my brother was in third grade, year three. He. He had a friend who was white. And the teacher was white, teacher of the class, and my brother got in trouble. He got what they call like a red card. Like you get a note home, and it’s just not red. It’s a pink piece of paper.
Geoff 10:54
Pink slips.
Georgie 10:54
That kind of gives you a bit of a warning. Yeah. And if you get three, you get, like suspended or whatever. And obviously, you have to do something pretty bad for this stuff. And so my brother got one. And like, I remember being pretty shocked when my mum was like, looking over it. And apparently he had urinated on a kid. And my brother told us the story. Yeah, it sounds shocking, right? But my brother told us the story. And he said he was mucking around with his friend. Like at the urinal. And they, they were just like, they weren’t. They weren’t really peeing on each other, but they were just messing around, as they weren’t like using the toilet.
Geoff 11:30
Piss fighting.
Georgie 11:32
Yeah. And then I think what happened was, he actually got some, he accidentally got some piss on his friend’s shoe. And then his friend retaliated by kind of pissing a bit more like on his pants or whatever, like, like aiming at him. But the way that this teacher framed it was that she like she, she basically made it seem like my brother was in the wrong and my brother had just like, out of, I don’t know, being a jerk.
Geoff 12:02
Instigated.
Georgie 12:03
Yeah, pissed on his friend. And, like, what I remember is that my brother was so upset. And he was also angry. And he was only like, eight, right? And he was angry because this was his friend. And like, the way I was seeing it as an outsider, like, the way I understood, it was like, I felt really bad for my brother. And I just felt like this... And this, this wasn’t the first time that the teacher had kind of, like, treated my brother like shit, or made comments, or that it wasn’t the first time that it felt like she was treating my brother differently to other kids in the class. And my mum was really angry about this as well. Obviously, she just like, my mum would not stand up to like, bullies and this kind of shift. And it’s funny, cuz like, Yeah, not like one and a half years ago, we were kind of talking about incident. And my brother was like, he was recalling the incident. And he was kind of he remembered it, in jest. Like, he was like, oh, yeah, I like I don’t know what happened. But like, he just remembered it wrong. And I was like, No, Brandon, like, this is what I remember. You were so upset, right? And but he remembers not being that upset. And probably because he was a kid, right? But I remember this so vividly, even like 18 years later. Like, I remember feeling so bad for him. I remember mum being so angry and upset. And I remember myself, like feeling as a preteen feeling such hatred for this teacher who was being basically like, racist and discriminating. And I just found it funny that Brandon, like, didn’t remember it being as serious as it was. So.
Geoff 13:38
Yeah. Kids, man, resilient, you know? You don’t, I don’t remember shit from when I was a kid. Like I said, like half my story from the Origins apparently didn’t—not didn’t happen. They happened, just not recounting the events as they did. I remember one time, like, I remember we were going through one of the bigger incidents when I was a kid, a car had rolled over my foot.
Georgie 14:08
(gasp) Like the wheel of the car had just—
Geoff 14:12
Yeah, so let’s imagine I’m walking to cross the road and a car was pulling up to stop at a light and I stepped out and the car was slowly rolling, and rolled over my foot. Now my foot swelled to like, three times the size.
Georgie 14:32
(shocked laugh)
Geoff 14:36
And my, my sisters were completely livid. They were just like, holy shit. We can’t let the parents find out. So they just told the parents that I had my trip down the bus stairs or something like that.
Georgie 14:52
Oh my god.
Geoff 14:52
And, like, so I tell this story. Um, I think I told it maybe like 50% wrong at some point and, and my sister’s like, that’s definitely not how it happened. But I legit can’t remember it any differently. Like I told you now, but I still don’t know if that was actually what happened. I know the car rolled over my foot. And I know that we told my parents a story, but apparently I wasn’t—something along, yeah, something between the bus and like the road, and me stepping out. There’s something some detail that I don’t quite remember. But I think we were successful in keeping this from my parents from the last, for the last like, 20 odd years.
Georgie 15:46
And now you just outed it on the podcast.
Geoff 15:47
We only told them recently.
Georgie 15:49
Oh. Okay.
Geoff 15:49
No we told them recently.
Georgie 15:50
Yeah.
Geoff 15:51
We were like, okay, let’s come clean.
Georgie 15:53
It’s funny how a little white—I mean, feels like a white lie, right? I mean, I think I told a—I didn’t, I had a similar thing with my mum. Like, when I when I did concert photography. My mum was under the impression that I was going to Bondi to a mate’s house to study or to, sorry, not study, because I didn’t have exams in my master’s degree, but to what a group assignment. And like, she had no idea that I was going to Bondi to, like, go to the club and watch bands and or photograph bands and go to gigs and stuff. And like, she would always go, when are you gonna be home. And I’m like, dude, I got to get the last bus, from Bondi to Bondi Junction. And then I got to get the last train from Bondi Junction to Central and then I got to get the last train before I have to wait for another hour to go back out west, and it’s just, and she had, she had no idea and I just kept saying, I gotta go, I gotta go to my I gotta go do some group work or whatever. She had no idea. I was out basically partying. The sad part is—actually I’ll get to the sad part in a sec. But I didn’t tell her—well I didn’t even really like tell her tell, her. But it came up in conversation at like family dinner, like, a couple years ago. I was like, yeah, mum, you know, I said, I was like, going out to like Bondi and shit. Like to do group work. I was I was going to gigs the whole time. And like Brandon, my brother, he knew this. Like, he just knew this. And I think this might have come up because Brandon told like a little white lie, my mum found and she was like, ohhh. And there’s, yeah, actually, I’ll get to, I’ll come back to the sad thing. But this also reminds me of how recently, like before the lockdown and all that, Brandon went skydiving with his girlfriend, and he was, he messaged me, and he was like, oh, should I tell mum? She’s gonna, like, freak out. And I’m like, you know, what you should do like, because skydiving is like, controlled, right? It’s not like, it’s it’s gonna be a controlled—
Geoff 17:58
There’s a person there.
Georgie 17:58
You know, you’re pretty safe. Yeah, you’re pretty safe. I said, Just tell her after the fact. Right? She won’t panic. Just say look, by the way I did this. And he did do that. It was all cool. And all well and good. Yeah anyway, the sad, the thing is, I don’t, we don’t have to get into it this episode. But I went to a lot of those concerts and gigs myself, because my ex never wanted to. He just never had an interest in coming with me. So I was, I was all on my own.
Geoff 18:28
Yes, soloing it out at 2am.
Georgie 18:32
Yeah, yeah. I mean—
Geoff 18:34
I’m pretty sure that’s the last train.
Georgie 18:38
Ye, it’s like, it’s this like, last train from Central like, 1:30. And then you got to wait until 4:30, I think or something like that.
Geoff 18:45
Yeah.
Georgie 18:45
But yeah, I believe that I needed that kind of time alone, for me to grow as a person. Like, I know, it sounds it sounds fucking sad that my ex didn’t want to come with me to stuff that like I enjoyed watching. But it’s just, it’s just one of those things, right? And one of the things just kind of grow through. And I feel like that was a period of my life where I felt like I was like, engaging my passion for photographing bands and also listening to music. But that time alone was like for me to become my own friend. Something like that. But yeah, I mean, whatever.
Geoff 19:24
Yeah.
Georgie 19:25
Such is life.
Geoff 19:28
Yeah, I think it’s people under estimate. Just being okay with being alone, you know. Figuring out, you know, things, because I moved out by myself recently, like I lived with other people for so long. Like my family is a family of six. And then when I moved out to Newcastle, I moved out to a well, first I lived with my uncle and then I found a rental with two other people. And then I moved to Sydney with my best friend and lived with them for yeah, the past like, seven odd years with maybe a third other person every now and then. And then, for the last one and a half years, maybe even, is it going to be two? No, one and a half years. I remember because I moved into this place on April 1. So it’s really easy to remember the anniversaries. So one and a half years, and yeah, it was sort of like, well, I’m, I’m like, had to learn how to live by myself alone. And it can be, it can be pretty challenging. One thing is food, like food’s really hard to cook for one person. But if you do two people recipes, and you just kind of like, eat it over a couple of days, then you got, then I got into the habit of just eating things over multiple days rather than like relying on eating it all in one go. But yeah, it’s kind of like it’s a really interesting transition. When when you go from living with people, your life and then living by yourself. My siblings, were also very skeptical. They were like, dude, you’re gonna actually go live by yourself, do you think that’s going to be boring? Like, well.
Georgie 21:33
Woah.
Geoff 21:35
I can’t answer that question. But I fully expected it to be pretty boring. And you find ways to fill your time, like hobbies and you know, watching TV shows infinitely. And yeah, I think everyone everyone probably could do with a dose of living by themselves. Have you ever lived by yourself?
Georgie 21:58
Nope. I was with my parents. And then I moved out like, just before I got married, so yeah, but the experience I had with being alone was travelling alone, which I’ve actually only twice. Yeah, the first time was in 2017. I went to Per—oh sorry, 2016. I went to Perth. That wasn’t much. I was just like a weekend. It was bit odd.
Geoff 22:22
Wait, you went all the way to Perth for a weekend?
Georgie 22:26
Oh I went to Mixin.
Geoff 22:28
Oh, right. Yeah. That’s way too much.
Georgie 22:30
Wait were you there? You weren’t there.
Geoff 22:32
No, I wasn’t there. But that’s I mean—that’s way too far.
Georgie 22:36
Way too much to go to Perth? Oh.
Geoff 22:39
Yeah. For anyone who doesn’t know—
Georgie 22:40
Hey, I think—
Geoff 22:41
It’s like five and a half hour flight to get to the other side of Australia, from Sydney. And that’s still in the same country. So, yeah, going there for a weekend and spending 10 hours, 11 hours on a plane is ridiculous to me.
Georgie 22:56
I’d never been there. And I think I might have had some of it expensed because it was like partial, like the conference bit was like work related.
Geoff 23:05
I heard it was an amazing conference, though.
Georgie 23:08
It was. It was. I wish I wish they they did more. But yeah, the the next time I travelled on my own. I was, it was when I went to xoxo in Portland in 2018. And I was already married. And Nick didn’t come with me because he just stayed for work. And yeah. And I was there for like, one and a half weeks, oh, man that we’d like one of the longest one and a half weeks of my life. I like I had a really amazing time at xoxo. So for those who don’t know, it’s like a, independent creators, like a con—like it’s kind of like a festival for independent creators. So there’s a bit of like games, presentations and things and—
Geoff 23:58
It’s like Burning Man.
Georgie 23:59
I had—(laughs) probably not that extreme. Yeah.
Geoff 24:04
Or, what’s the other one? The Canes? Cane?
Georgie 24:08
Coachella? Oh no—
Geoff 24:09
Festival, Coachella. Coachella. That’s the one.
Georgie 24:11
Coachella? Yeah. But yeah no, it was not like that at all. But yeah, I remember when I like when I landed. I was like, actually no, the night before. Like, I totally had like a meltdown. Because like, holy shit. I’m travelling on my own, internationally. And it’s so weird because a lot of people have had that experience. Like, probably in their early 20s or something. And for me, I was like, I don’t know, 20s, I can’t do the maths, basically, yeah 26, 27 and it was like it was a scary thing. But, you know, I managed to like when I landed. I was like shit, I need a SIM card because I need to contact people and go on internet. And I had like I figured out, like I asked, I just walked up to somebody at like some one of those stands in the airport when they give you maps and shit. And I was like, hey, do you know where the closest like T Mobile is? Or whatever. And he’s like, oh, where are you headed and all this stuff. And I just told him where my hotel was. And they told me to take the Max, which is like, sort of light rail-ish thing. And to get off at this stop at the Lincoln Center, and it’s like, there’s a T Mobile in there, and all good. And you know, but like, I didn’t I, if I went to the wrong thing, or whatever, like I was fucked, right. I had a bit of cash on me. So I bought a ticket. It took me forever to buy that ticket. I don’t know why I kept messing it up in the machine and shit. I’m going holy shit. I’m like, alone in this count... I’m alone in the US all by myself. But I figured it out. But I just remember sitting on the Max. And I was like, I was looking at... I was looking at, like, I had managed to save some of the Apple Maps stuff. So I knew roughly where I was. And I looked at the map the guy gave me, where there’s the, where there was the shopping centre that he pointed out, but I remember panicking, that I’d get off at the wrong stop and all this shit. And you know, it’s weird, right? Because, like I said, I don’t, I think probably partially because of my upbringing, I wasn’t very, and I don’t think—it took me a while to get like street smart. You know what I mean?
Geoff 26:17
Yeah.
Georgie 26:18
When you have a strict upbringing, yeah, like, I didn’t go out a lot as as a teenager. I like barely moved out of my, where I grew up in Western Sydney. Like I just yeah, I did not have street smartness.
Geoff 26:33
A lot of things get decided for you as well.
Georgie 26:37
Yeah. Like, I didn’t feel independent. So that was like a challenge for me. Yeah.
Geoff 26:44
The, so as a child, my family travelled heaps. But usually, it’s like my parents figure everything out. So whilst I had travelled, I was very much a passenger. Until I went out to the States myself. I didn’t really go by myself, but you know, I was, I was being flown over by someone. So I was gonna stay with them and they kind of sorted everything out for me. So skipping over the fact that I trusted an entire stranger to house me and not kidnapped me and shoved me in a dead dungeon... The, the interesting thing about yeah, getting a—that was the first time I got a smartphone, I think my first smartphone. And also the first time I realised how stupid Americans like mobile system is. If you’re on prepaid or something, apparently, it, you get charged when you get a phone call from someone else.
Georgie 27:52
Oh really?
Geoff 27:53
It’ss ridiculous. Yeah, you get a phone call, guess who gets charged? You. You get charged for someone else calling you. And I remember I was I was sleeping in the room in the house. And my, my quote unquote, boss is in the same house. He frickin calls me. And I’m like—
Georgie 28:14
No.
Geoff 28:15
I come out and I’m like, dude, you know, this costs money. Like don’t call me, I’m in the same house, and then his argument was like, he was paying for the bills anyways, like, that’s not the point. What’s fucking wasting $2 to call me from inside the house.
Georgie 28:33
My mum would do that sometimes. Like when I lived with my parents, she would call me—
Geoff 28:37
It’s kind of okay, here.
Georgie 28:38
Why? I... (laughs) You think it’s OK if it’s not in America?
Geoff 28:44
As long as no one’s getting charged for it. I mean, if it’s your mum’s money to call you, then that’s her own problem.
Georgie 28:51
Yeah. What I’m used to here is free free calls to any Australian mobile number.
Geoff 28:58
Yeah. That was good times.
Georgie 29:00
And that wasn’t always a thing. You remember when they had the fucking flag fall 50 cent shit, and one cent per second bullshit. And then your calls would end up being like, you don’t want to have, you don’t want to have a phone call longer than 60 seconds because then it’d be like more than a cup of coffee or some shit. You’re, do you remember this shit? Like, do you remember like you would try if you had you would avoid calling because you could almost spend half the cost to send 160 character, 140 whatever, character text message with some details versus having like a 20-second conversation and it costing like double. (laughs) You know what I mean? Do you remember this.
Geoff 29:39
Yeah, I do remember vaguely those terms. But actually, most people that I needed to talk to were all on Vodafone and Vodafone allowed you free talk and text to Vodafone members. So I didn’t have that, that problem. Free talk probably not free text, but them yeah the idea that multiple text messages costs like, no, if you go above 160 characters and you end up splitting your text into two, it costs like two messages, right? And you’re just like—
Georgie 30:13
Yeah, and then if you were out by like one character, you’d be like, shit, I just wasted 25 cents to add a “D” on the end of my “and” or some fucking... (laughs)
Geoff 30:22
Yeah. Or a full stop, you’re like, the full stop gets cut into a second message.
Georgie 30:26
And you’re just like, shit. Yeah, I totally remember. I was on Vodafone as well. Yeah.
Geoff 30:34
Vodafone was great.
Georgie 30:34
(laughs) I can’t believe, you know I’m thinking about the the T9 phones as well, right? Those keypad, that the like I had a Nokia, was it, 3315.
Geoff 30:45
Yeah, I got um, I got the Nokia that had the slide like had the horizontal slide up screen with the keyboard underneath it. So you actually, you actually use the phone in the in a horizontal portrait—landscape, lanscape mode. You rotated it, landscape, and then you slide the screen up. And then you’d—
Georgie 31:10
Oh that one. Yeah.
Geoff 31:12
Yeah.
Georgie 31:12
Yeah.
Geoff 31:14
It was crazy. I loved it. I didn’t even I never wanted to get a phone that didn’t have a QWERTY keyboard, like a full ass QWERTY keyboard, physical one. And then I got the iPod Touch. And—
Georgie 31:26
Oh I had one too! I had one too. And you just felt like it was so, did you ever feel like it was so cool. And you’re like, I’d rather use this than my actual phone. And you’d like listen to music—
Geoff 31:34
It was fancy.
Georgie 31:35
You’d play games on it. I just felt like, I don’t know. I bought mine. Like I remember buying mine. My mum was really ticked off. She was like, why did you spend $300 on this thing? I can’t believe you did that. I’m like, I just want to play games, and listen to music, you don’t understand. (laughs)
Geoff 31:50
You don’t get me!
Georgie 31:50
The music. The music was so important to me, because like all I’d been dealing with was cheap $40 mp3 players that, like bless her, my mum kindly bought for me, but they just kept dying. And or they hold one gigabyte, or less or 500 megabytes of, of songs. And you know, I am an avid music lover. And that just frankly was not enough. Give me my 32 gigabyte fucking iPod Touch, please.
Geoff 32:19
Yeah, I had one of those, like big chunky USB ones, like they look like big, chunky USBs. And you take off the cap, and it’s a USB and you plug it into your computer, and you put songs on it. And then you can listen to it as an mp3 player.
Georgie 32:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Geoff 32:35
But they were just USBs.
Georgie 32:36
They were such a novelty. But oh.
Geoff 32:41
I can’t even remember how I got my iPod Touch. It was like the third? Was it the second or third Gen and it was second hand and we got it off eBay or something like that. And it was it was pretty revolutionary. And yeah, I wanted to do everything on it. I didn’t really want to use my phone anymore. I don’t even know if it could do, it can do phone calls, right? And it needed Wi Fi like all the time to do something.
Georgie 33:07
Yeah. Did you ever like you, like every time you had a chance to get Wi Fi, you’d be like, oh, my god, I got to like, go online. And I don’t know.
Geoff 33:13
Yeah.
Georgie 33:14
I can’t remember what I did. But I’d have to like go on Twitter, or some, I feel this like addiction to check my email every time I’ve got a free Wi Fi spot.
Geoff 33:22
Exactly. It’s because like 90% of the features get unlocked on this thing that you carry around just for music. So you’re just like, oh my god, the Wi Fi. I remember travelling with it, too. So yeah, anytime the Wi Fi you get to Starbucks or something like that. You suddenly get a bunch of like, email notifications like, oh, yeah, I can like check my email or something.
Georgie 33:43
It’s like winning the lottery. I know. It sounds so dumb.
Geoff 33:47
Yeah, back when the internet wasn’t like super available.
Georgie 33:51
Yeah. So after I got an iPod Touch, I eventually ended up getting my first smartphone, which was the iPhone 3GS. I think I got in like 20, 2010, might have been. I don’t know if I’ve told you this story specifically. But I actually lost that iPhone, like less than a year after I got it.
Geoff 34:11
Oh shit.
Georgie 34:12
And—
Geoff 34:13
Yeah how?
Georgie 34:13
So what happened was—oh do you remember how chunky...? I mean, I don’t know if you had that phone. But it was a pretty chunky phone obviously compared to—
Geoff 34:21
Yeah, I remember it being chunky.
Georgie 34:24
Yeah, I was I was shopping for shoes or something at the department store where my mum works. And I put the phone, the phone was pretty big. Right? Like, like I just said, it’s a bit different to the way they’ve streamlined it in the past few years. And I put it in my, the pocket of my shorts, which was, you know, we can totally talk about this another time but women’s pockets are bullshit.
Geoff 34:51
(laughs)
Georgie 34:51
So was not quite deep enough for the phone, so it was sticking out, whatever. But this is probably a cause as to why I dropped it. So anyway, I’m looking for shoes, I decided I found a pair that I wanted to sit down, try on. I don’t think I was very much into handbag, I’ve never really been a big handbag person. I always wanted to carry my phone or wallet—at least at the time. Now I carry like the tiniest handbag. So I sit down and I try on these shoes. And then like, the next minute, I’m looking for my phone to like message my mum or something. And it’s gone. Like I check my pockets, I check the seat I’m sitting on, I’m looking around near me, I go back to the shelf where I got the shoes that I was trying on, I like, retrace my steps—
Geoff 35:34
Shiiiit.
Georgie 35:34
Look all over the floor. I can’t fucking find it anywhere. And I’m like, shit. And then I try and look for my mum. Because I think she’s working that day. And I tell her I lost my phone. She’s like, have you like, I’m like, I’ve checked, I fucking checked everywhere or whatever. And like, I think I can’t remember exactly what happened next. But I eventually, couldn’t find it, had to go home. And my mum ended up talking to I think she was she was like friends with the security, one of the security people at the department store. And she asked him and he was like, yeah, we can look at the CCTV footage or whatever. And my mum actually did, like, I don’t think she was legally supposed to, like see it. Like I think it had to go, you have to go through a process for it to be able to, for people other than the security people to look at, but she did. But the guy found the footage of me. And he showed it to my mum and my mum told me what she saw. And so what happened was I sat down, the phone fell out of my pocket as I was trying the shoes on and my foot kicked the phone way back through the entire like shoe department. And it stopped like somewhere on the on the tiles, where people will usually like walk past or whatever. And a guy with a little girl who we’ve just presumed was his daughter. Guy picked it up, he looked at it and he turned the phone off and pocketed it.
Geoff 37:13
Mmm shit.
Georgie 37:15
Yes.
Geoff 37:16
Oh my god.
Georgie 37:17
And this was this was back when you didn’t have fuckin Find My, or you couldn’t erase the phone or whatever so you lost your phone and you were fucked. I did had, I had already gone to the efforts of post—pardon?
Geoff 37:31
Did we have pin codes back then?
Georgie 37:34
Yeah, but but you... yeah, but you could just turn off the phone.
Geoff 37:43
Yeah, you could wipe the phone pretty easily.
Georgie 37:45
Yeah, so he would still have been able to use it. The, back then what I remember is that you could turn the phone off and then you could just fucking reset it without unlocking it and just fully erase it because yeah, this was this was 2010 and I had already like posted on some forum or whatever saying I’d lost my phone and here’s the IMEI number. With all this staff, I even described the wallpaper had on it, which was like of me and my ex with a dog. And yeah, and like yeah, back then you just couldn’t do your Find My thing, it was, it was it was just it was just fucking gone. And then I went, I didn’t have a phone, right? And so my dad, I don’t know where he got it. He ended up giving me a like a pink Sony Ericsson with the slidey thing.
Geoff 38:30
Oooh.
Georgie 38:30
It wasn’t a full QWERTY keyboard. But it was like a slide, slide up and then—
Geoff 38:34
Yeah.
Georgie 38:34
Use the, like the T9 whatever, one, numpad and to be honest, like even though it wasn’t a smartphone I actually really liked that phone for the tac, the tactility. I think I had that for a good while before I ended up buying like a secondhand 4S, iPhone 4S. But yeah, actually wait no, did I get a 4S? I think I actually went to an Android. I think I went to the, yeah, no, I got the Samsung Galaxy Ace. Which is like one of the—
Geoff 39:05
Ooooh.
Georgie 39:05
...early ones right? And then, and then like I think I—
Geoff 39:09
Your faith waivered.
Georgie 39:09
...eventually. Yeah, like and then I had oh, I don’t know I don’t know if you remember but I had one of the original Samsung Galaxy Notes which was fucking massive and it was the dumbest choice. I had it for like a week and then I resold it. It was so stupid. It was the dumb—because like, you know me, like so right now I have an iPhone 12 Mini and I think we all know why. Like, small pockets, small hands, I’m fucking tiny, and I think the phones getting bigger is the dumbest thing but back then I was obsessed with this idea of a notebook and a stylus thing. So I got the fucking—
Geoff 39:42
Yeah because you’re a writer and shit, right?
Georgie 39:44
Yeah, but it was just like what the fuck, like I had a photo of it literally with my A5 whatever notebook and no sorry, A6, probably, and it was like the same size of my notebook, I’m like, why do I want a fucking phone this big? It was the, one of the dumbest endeavours of my life.
Geoff 40:01
They sold you. The marketing worked.
Georgie 40:04
Iy worked. Yeah. Also my ex had a Samsung Galaxy like Note thing, and it worked for him because he always wore cargo pants with giant ass pockets.
Geoff 40:15
Oh my god cargo pants phase. I—
Georgie 40:20
It wasn’t a phase. That was just his style. But whatever. I think some, that’s just, yeah.
Geoff 40:26
For the longest time... So this prior to going to the States, I had that Nokia, I had one of the older Nokias and then the newer one with the fancy slide up screen with the QWERTY keyboard. And the iPod Touch, I was a big fan of keeping them separate for some reason. I’m like, music on this one, phone as phone. Like, why would I ever combine the two? And it kind of made sense because battery was also a concern. If my phone ran out of battery, then I wouldn’t be able to listen to music. And if the music drained the phone battery, then I wouldn’t be able to make a phone call. So I juggled these two things. And I just had them for, like, separate for so long. And then I went to the States, and I think I think my phone must have died or wasn’t compatible or something along those lines. And I got the the first kind of, what was it, was it something HD goddamnit. Anyways, it was an Android phone it was the first time it was a full screen with the keyboard on the screen type type firm that I that I got—
Georgie 41:50
Smartphone?
Geoff 41:51
Oh it was called Desire HD. That’s what it was called. And it was by a company that had collapsed recently. HTC. That’s the one. So HTC Desire HD. So I got one of those. And I was like okay, and that was the first time I had started, like putting my, I still had my iPod Touch, I think but maybe that broke as well. So I started putting all the stuff on the one phone and I was like, okay, this is pretty convenient. Just put everything on one device. But like it ended up dying one time when I was out of the house. And I was like shit, I can’t maps or anything. And I was like wandering aimlessly around San Francisco trying to get back and what was supposed to be like a half an hour bus ride turned into like a one and a half hour adventure through the Mission, which is the dodgy part of San Francisco. And all I had was my laptop battery. So I was like wandering around my laptop open.
Georgie 43:01
Oh yeah.
Geoff 43:01
Like trying to get Wi Fi, trying to find the bus route at home. And I knew something was wrong when I got on a bus that had a bunch of bikes on the front of the of the bus, which is yeah, and then and then like the type of people that were like getting on the bus. I was like, okay, something’s a bit awry here. But I hadn’t realised that I was wandering through, like the Mission until later on when I when I looked back on the journey and like the bus stops that I took. But it was yeah, so you know what, maybe my theory was right. Maybe you should definitely keep your music and your your phone separate. But these days yeah, the iPhone, iPhone 12 Mini is is the best thing because it’s back to the normal size.
Georgie 43:53
Yeah. 12 Mini club.
Geoff 43:56
Yeah.
Georgie 43:57
Yeah.
Geoff 43:59
I thought about it a little bit when they announced the iPhone 13. And the iPhone 13 Pro—
Georgie 44:06
This week?
Geoff 44:07
Yeah, this week.
Georgie 44:09
What were you thinking about?
Geoff 44:12
Yeah, I have a mirrorless camera. And it has a, what was it, I can’t remember now. 16 millimetre? Yeah. 16 millimetre 1.4. And the spec of the camera on the iPhones have basically included a 16 millimetre 1.8. And it’s got a two centimetre focal, right, focal length? And my bloody lens here is a 0.25 metre focal length, which is like—worse?
Georgie 44:56
It’s 20 centimetres, 25 centimetres?
Geoff 44:59
Yeah, it’s a 25 centimetre, 25 centimetre focal length!
Georgie 45:06
I mean, I guess that’s why they mention the macro photography, right? Because if you can—
Geoff 45:10
Exactly.
Georgie 45:11
It’s... yeah.
Geoff 45:13
So I’m torn. Like—
Georgie 45:15
So wait, you’re thinking of getting a new phone.
Geoff 45:18
Not now.
Georgie 45:19
To basically—
Geoff 45:19
Not now.
Georgie 45:20
...replace your... but are you thinking of abandoning your camera?
Geoff 45:25
Yeah, I am. I’m seriously thinking of abandoning the camera.
Georgie 45:29
Oh, I abandoned my camera.
Geoff 45:31
Yeah, everything about the camera that I wanted for, like low light. Because of the 1.4 aperture, the 16 millimetre, because of the wide angle, these things just weren’t available on our phones just yet. And then with the iPhone 12, they switched to wide angle lenses. And I’m like, well, now, if I really wanted to cover my bases, this would have to be a telephoto lens on my mirrorless. But then if I just got an iPhone 13 or whatever, the iPhone 14 or whatever, it will have both telephoto and macro. And then what? This $1,000 paperweight becomes like a—
Georgie 46:11
It become enough,.
Geoff 46:13
Yeah, becomes nothing, in the face of our phones.
Georgie 46:17
Yeah, I had the same sort of thing. Like when I kind of, quote unquote, left concert photography, like mostly, I think it was a big factor that I wasn’t getting any new opportunities, and I’d kind of lost interest in it. But like, it’s still a bit weird. And I don’t even know what happens these days. But still, like you still want state of the art proper camera equipment to take those photos. But then, you know, if you can take pretty similarly good photos with a phone, in like low light, moving subjects and all this stuff, I’m like, what does that mean? But yeah, for me, it was like, I could sell this thing because like, the, it’s the, it’s the, what is it? The fun? The fun cost? Or the, what was it again? Cost to fun?
Geoff 47:03
Oh, yeah, the cost to fun ratio.
Georgie 47:05
Yeah. So I spent thousands of dollars on this camera, which I used like, once a year to go to like, one concert. I was like, Look, I need to quit. Well, it wasn’t really like that. But it was just kind of like, this isn’t what it was for me anymore. I, like I thought it was just, it was just time to move on. And I’d use the camera for like travel photography as well. But I wasn’t so much invested in it in taking like, extremely awesome landscape shots or whatever. And I saw what I could do with my phone, which at the time was like an iPhone 7. And the photos I took on that, I was satisfied with. I just knew I wasn’t gonna blow it up and print out like a big mural for my wall. I was just sharing it online. And so I was happy with the phone I had then and then now even the 12 Mini is even better at those photos. And I’m totally fine with that.
Geoff 47:57
Yeah, it’s it’s partially also like the, like the experience, you know, when you pick up a, when you pick up a camera, and you—
Georgie 48:07
If you’re fucking pro?
Geoff 48:09
And then you—
Georgie 48:10
Versus like you hold down the—
Geoff 48:14
Shutter—yeah, versus like, you hold this like little brick, and you press the screen and then you get you get the photo.
Georgie 48:22
Yeah.
Geoff 48:23
I don’t know. There’s some there’s some intangible experience and satisfaction from carrying this hunk of metal. But of course, yeah, you’re right. It’s completely unnecessary. Every like, everything that I’ve wanted to take photos, everything I’ve wanted out of a camera is doable inside the phone camera. And I just don’t need the other things inside this camera. Like I don’t know. I think you will, yeah, low light, low light stuff is already really good in our cam, in our phone cameras now, high speed, we’re high, we get high speed already in the in the cameras, like this thing goes 1/6000 of a second or whatever. And the phone pretty much matches that. In any, I mean, who needs that much speed, to be, to be fair? So yeah, I’m after the announcement of the iPhone 13 and the fact that they include some pretty epic specs. Just maybe it’s time to let go of the old. Just sort of we’re not professionals. Yeah. Like you said, we’re not printing things. And even then, they include pro res now, raw, in the new iPhone 13.
Georgie 49:45
Oh, yeah.
Geoff 49:47
So you can print those if you wanted to. It’s ridiculous.
Georgie 49:51
Yeah. Also—
Geoff 49:52
And it costs—
Georgie 49:53
But things keep getting—yeah, yeah, the cost is, yeah. And you get other things in the phone obviously. And then if you even if you upgraded your phone every year, you’d sell your old one because like, in a year’s time, people probably still want a year old phone model. And like, yeah, the phone does other things. And the technology in the phones, like the camera technology just keeps improving. And I feel like you can just keep expecting that. Whereas if you just bought expensive glass for your big camera body, and like, I guess the amount of time you’d have that for, it, it’s, it just doesn’t really compare. I know people have different, you know, needs and shit. And like, and this would make sense for a professional photographer to keep their equipment, but yeah.
Geoff 50:39
Yeah, and I’m not sitting in Lightroom, like tweaking every little inch of my photo, I’m not like focus stacking, I’m not doing any of that fancy shit, that people usually do with, like, their, like mirrorless and raw capabilities. Someone on a different Slack channel actually reached out and said, alright, camera people, I want to get something entry level for my partner, whatever, that, they want to start getting into photography. And I legitimately said like, well, the phone is actually quite capable, if you like, even if you’re like trying to break in from amateur to professional, like, your phone can take such great shots compared to entry level cameras, that it’s almost negligible to start there. You don’t need to spend an extra, I don’t know, $250, $300 on something. And I, and also, they wanted to work on a budget, right? So they wanted to get some really old model. I think they ended up with like a Canon, Canon 5100D or something like, super, super old. This is like, eight, I don’t know, 8, 10 years old. And I’m like your phone can literally take 100 times better photos than any camera prior to, I don’t know, 5, 10 years ago, or five years ago. It’s crazy.
Georgie 52:20
I think people might just feel like they, they know something if they’re carrying a proper actual camera. People don’t feel I guess they don’t, I don’t know, they don’t feel like a quote unquote, real photographer when they’re using a phone.
Geoff 52:34
I get that.
Georgie 52:35
But then I guess yeah, I guess it boils down to like, what are you trying? Are you trying to take better shots, you can still practice with your phone camera. Like you can practice composition or whatever, maybe you won’t really understand aperture? Or you know, like, other things, like exposure—
Geoff 52:50
You can change all that stuff now, in the pho—
Georgie 52:52
Yeah.
Geoff 52:52
In the photo app.
Georgie 52:53
Just do it in post.
Geoff 52:54
Yeah, just.
Georgie 52:56
Yeah.
Geoff 52:57
It’s crazy.
Georgie 52:58
I think the point is, like, you don’t need some fancy, expensive device to learn how to do a thing that is creative, I guess. And if you use photography as like creative expression, like use the phone, like use what you have already, instead of forking out on like some thing that you think will facilitate your hobby if you’re genuinely interested in it. Like I mean, this is how I started getting into photography. I used whatever the fuck I had, which was like my parents dumb ass Kodak or whatever. It was shit.
Geoff 53:31
Yeah.
Georgie 53:31
But like I took photos because I care—
Geoff 53:33
iPod Touch used to take photos too. Or it does take photos.
Georgie 53:36
The iPod Touch?
Geoff 53:37
iPod Touch.
Georgie 53:38
But I don’t think had a selfiem did it? It didn’t have a selfie camera.
Geoff 53:40
No, it didn’t have a selfie, I think. But you’re right. I, yeah, I complete agree. Just stick with what you have. And worry about the gear later. Because you’re probably wasting a bunch of money upgrading and upgrading and upgrading, but I told—yeah, your point about feeling more like a professional compared to people with phones is so true. Like when I walk around with my camera. I’m like, look at those plebs on their phones. I got the real shit.
Georgie 54:18
People on their iPads.
Geoff 54:20
Yeah, people on their iPhones and like—
Georgie 54:23
No, iPads.
Geoff 54:23
Look at my shit right right here. iPads. Oh my god, don’t even get me started on people taking photos with their iPad. Oh, my aunt was one of them, I think. God it was horrifying.
Georgie 54:35
Embarrassing.
Geoff 54:35
But the camera on the iPad’s ridiculously good now. I think they put like pro grade camera on the iPad Mini or something like that recently. And now you can take photos with your iPad Mini that’s comparable. Just stop everybody. Don’t use your iPad as a camera. It is, only your tires, your hands out, or your, and your arms, it’s just so big and unwieldy. They should just remove the—oh maybe not, they shouldn’t remove the camera from an iPad because it’s kind of useful sometimes for video chats.
Georgie 55:11
Yeah.
Geoff 55:12
But—
Georgie 55:12
Wait you say big and unwieldy. But then what about those people who at some, you know, small little gathering like a birthday party, they bring their massive DSLR with a giant ass stupid lens. Isn’t that sort of the same thing? You become the person who’s just at some little picnic and I just bring my like, I bring my massive like DSLR.
Geoff 55:35
That’s me. I’ll bring my fucking chunky ass lens for a picnic. It was really funny because I was in the car and I was trying to take a selfie with this massive camera. With my niece. And I turned the cam, I turned I flip the screen up to see to like, look at what I’m taking. And it, made me added a timer. And I was like, that’s kind of cool.
Georgie 56:02
That’s kind of creepy.
Geoff 56:04
So it goes beep, beep, beep. And it goes chk, chk. What’s even more fun is that you can ta—you can turn off the shutter noise nowadays. So you can silently take photos. And I’m like, doesn’t that just remove all the fun? Like the shutter noise is the...
Georgie 56:22
You know what, I think these companies are literally just giving us what we want.
Geoff 56:27
Yeah?
Georgie 56:27
They’re giving us better cameras and stuff. They’re doing exactly what we want.
Geoff 56:32
Argh. You’re right, we’re falling into it. It’s like don’t bother with getting the gear. Just, it’s all in the phone. It’s all on your phone.
Georgie 56:41
Yeah, you’ve been sucked in.
Geoff 56:43
Being sucked in. And that means I have to get a better bigger phone. And I’m not happy about that.
Georgie 56:48
Don’t do it. Don’t do it. You just went you just went to a smaller phone, you can’t go, you can’t go back.
Geoff 56:53
I know, I know. Maybe if I wait long enough, they put the pro stuff into the smaller phone.
Georgie 56:59
That’s, that’s my hope. Right? Like, I heard rumors that they were going to get rid of the small, like eventually, like maybe next year, there won’t be a Mini, I’m like fuck off. I’m like you can’t do this to me. And I was even thinking of being that dickhead who stockpiles the fucking phones.
Geoff 57:15
Oh just go buy a few more?
Georgie 57:17
Just go buy a few more, yeah.
Geoff 57:18
(laughs)
Georgie 57:19
Because didn’t people do do that with like the 2015 MacBook Pro, which is the one that I have. People did that with the—
Geoff 57:25
Oh wow.
Georgie 57:27
...MacBook Pro before they changed the keyboard and shit, whatever. But guess what they’re doing? They’re going, aren’t they going back? Apparently going back?
Geoff 57:32
Yeah, they did. They did.
Georgie 57:35
So maybe, I don’t know. Maybe if they abandon the Mini phone, it’ll eventually come back.
Geoff 57:41
I have a problem with inner ear buds. And I’m really concerned that they’re all, like all the regular earphones are just gonna disappear and be replaced with the inner ear buds. And I’ll have no earphones ever.
Georgie 57:56
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have that worry.
Geoff 57:57
I should probably stockpile the AirPods.
Georgie 58:00
Yeah. Wait, didn’t get yours on, ah, at a discount? You got a new—
Geoff 58:06
My AirPods?
Georgie 58:08
Yeah.
Geoff 58:09
Oh, I didn’t get a discount.
Georgie 58:10
Was that me? I got them at a discount.
Geoff 58:12
You got a discount? No, I got a mix-up.
Georgie 58:13
I got a discount from JB Hifi. Oh right.
Geoff 58:17
Yeah. So—
Georgie 58:18
Worked out in your favour?
Geoff 58:19
Yeah, exactly. I had one. One of them was broken. So I got I got Apple to like, replace it for me. But they sent me like a Gen one when it should have been a Gen two. And then I replaced the other one and the other one came back as a Gen two. And then the, they had syncing issues because they both have to be the same generation to work. And I took it to the store and they just replaced the whole thing. And then I, and then I lost my right earbud, and then I had to go buy another one. I’ve spent so much money on my AirPods.
Georgie 58:55
Wait, and then like two days, and then two days later, they announced the thing where it’ll tell you that you’ve left your AirPods behind.
Geoff 59:01
Oh, yeah, the individ—yeah, you can find my individual AirPods, I think.
Georgie 59:06
Fuck. (laughs)
Geoff 59:06
I think you have to get Pro to get that but yeah, it would be, it would be... yeah, I tried to use Find My to get my air pods back but I think if they like drive away to a like, furth, like if I left it in an Uber and it drove away. I don’t think it’d be able to track it, for some reason. Can’t remember. Either way, it’s all my own fault. Because I don’t put it in the case when I, like sometimes I go out and I just don’t bring the case. So I just pop them in my pockets.
Georgie 59:38
I do that. I leave them in my ears and then I just like, so I’ve done this when I walk to the post office, but I just pause my music and I keep talking to them. I’ve talked to people with the, with them in.
Geoff 59:51
Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 59:52
But also, this is probably because I don’t have pockets because women’s clothes are fucking stupid.
Geoff 59:59
Yeah, then you rely on pockets that don’t work, then you end up losing your shit. So—
Georgie 1:00:05
Mhmm.
Geoff 1:00:05
I think that’s, other, other. I think... that’s a good time to round out this episode. Lose this episode. So yeah. Tell us tell us your your phone journey. I don’t know how the fuck we got to mobile phones from—
Georgie 1:00:25
Well, we were talking about memories, so.
Geoff 1:00:29
Yeah. So yeah, tell us the time when you may have lost a very expensive item of yours. May be stolen like, Georgie’s, unfortunately. Can’t believe someone would just pocket it.
Georgie 1:00:43
Well I lost it, and instead it got stolen. Douche.
Geoff 1:00:46
Just pocketed it. Is it because you live in Western Sydney?
Georgie 1:00:50
Ah... yeah.
Geoff 1:00:53
Jokes. I haven’t lived here long enough. Or if you’ve mis-remembered, like an entire story. Yeah, let us know.
Georgie 1:01:04
Yeah, so you can find us on all the big ones, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and the big iPhone.
Geoff 1:01:15
And don’t forget to follow us on @toastroastpod, Twitter and Instagram. Mostly Twitter. I think we’re trying something new for the Instagram thing right with some sound bites.
Georgie 1:01:26
Yeah. Been posting some snippets. Yeah.
Geoff 1:01:28
Yeah.
Georgie 1:01:29
But yeah, we have new episodes every Monday.
Geoff 1:01:31
Every Monday. We’ll see you all next Monday then. Peace.
Georgie 1:01:35
Bye!