We try and guess where Georgie’s been that she hasn’t been to in 13 years, and Geoff tries to find the opening time of an eatery that doesn’t have their own website. We also find out what “bulk billing” actually means...
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We try and guess where Georgie’s been that she hasn’t been to in 13 years, and Geoff tries to find the opening time of an eatery that doesn’t have their own website. We also find out what “bulk billing” actually means...
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Georgie 0:09
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. I am your co host, Georgie and I’m here with Geoff. Hi, Geoff.
Geoff 0:20
Sup. Hello.
Georgie 0:22
You will not believe where I went today.
Geoff 0:28
Where’d you go?
Georgie 0:29
Oh... you know people either try to guess or... they just?
Geoff 0:35
Yeah, yeah, you... I don’t know. I feel like every time someone’s like “you won’t believe”. All right, I don’t believe.
Georgie 0:42
I think, so you will—I mean, it’s a figure of speech. Right. But—
Geoff 0:46
Yeah.
Georgie 0:46
I think you will believe it. But you’re gonna ask me why I went there.
Geoff 0:52
Of course, I always like to know why people do anything. Actually. Like, half my job is to—
Georgie 1:00
Interrogate?
Geoff 1:00
Interrogate people on why they do what they do.
Georgie 1:04
Okay, so do you want me to tell you just straight up, or do you want me to give you clues? And you can guess?
Geoff 1:11
You could, you could like start with how you got to the conclusion that you should go to this place.
Georgie 1:17
Oh, that’s a bit too deep. (laughs)
Geoff 1:21
(laughs)
Georgie 1:23
I feel like it had some something to do with some personal introspection.
Geoff 1:27
Yeah.
Georgie 1:28
And I was going through a stressful time. And then I had, I guess you could call it an epiphany. Although I would say that’s an exaggerated way of describing.
Geoff 1:37
What, was it while you were dancing your kitchen?
Georgie 1:42
The dancing in the kitchen, on my Instagram story, doesn’t have anything to really do with why I went to this place.
Geoff 1:50
Okay, okay. Yeah.
Georgie 1:51
But I’ll give you a little bit of a hint. In that, I don’t think—actually, no—that’s, I was gonna say, I haven’t been in one of these places for like 13 years, but—
Geoff 2:06
OK, so wait—
Georgie 2:06
But I have—
Geoff 2:07
Yep.
Georgie 2:08
Only to use the restroom because it was convenient.
Geoff 2:11
Okay, so let’s recap on the clues that I’ve gotten so far. You were stressed, when you thought of this, had an epiphany—
Georgie 2:22
Well, it wasn’t that I thought of it. I was I was stressed and then I diverted my attention to something else.
Geoff 2:28
Okay, so this is a diversion—a divertory, a divetory. It’s a word. It’s a word. A divertory thought. Epiphany, you haven’t been one in a long time. And possibly the only time you went into one was because it was convenient.
Georgie 2:47
Yeah.
Geoff 2:48
It’s a KFC. It’s obviously KFC.
Georgie 2:53
You know, it’s funny. It’s actually had KFC, like a couple of days ago. (laughs)
Geoff 3:01
You totally hated it.
Georgie 3:02
I go there for about once a month on average. So I actually kind of, I guess you could say I frequent—
Geoff 3:08
Oh, okay.
Georgie 3:09
So it’s not KFC.
Geoff 3:11
Okay. Um, let’s go for a more embarrassing place. Because why would you ever go back to someplace that you enjoy eating at? Is it like a guilty pleasure type? Like, do you feel guilty for having gone there?
Georgie 3:24
No.
Geoff 3:25
Or no. You actually love it.
Georgie 3:28
I don’t even know if I love it. But oh, I used to love it.
Geoff 3:33
Used to love it. Childhood thing, 13 years. How old are we now?
Georgie 3:39
31?
Geoff 3:40
20... So you would have been? I don’t know how to do math. Eight, eighteen, eighteen, eighteen. Yeah. Eighteen. Oh my god. Eighteen. So you just like, graduated high school I think? That’s when we graduate high school.
Georgie 4:00
I was seventeen when I graduated.
Geoff 4:02
What... What would—oh, Miss “I graduated at seventeen”.
Georgie 4:06
Wait didn’t you?
Geoff 4:07
I know. Yeah. Everybody graduates at seventeen. You made it sound like, you made it sound like you were ahead of the class. Hmm? So you, seventeen, eighteen, you just fresh out of high school. And you go into this place for the restroom. And you’re from, you know, you’re in the inner west, you grew up in...
Georgie 4:30
I grew up in the West. And now I live in like, I live in the—Sydney.
Geoff 4:35
South east. East. You know what? It’s probably a charcoal chicken or something like that.
Georgie 4:46
Why do you keep thinking about food?
Geoff 4:47
I’m banking on food? I don’t know. Why would you duck into a restroom for any other place besides food? It’s like a, was a clothing? It can’t be a clothing store. You’d go to those any day. Thirteen years.
Georgie 5:03
We’ve talked about it before.
Geoff 5:05
We have?
Georgie 5:06
I am willing to bet that you haven’t been to one in about the same amount of time.
Geoff 5:13
Really? A place that I’ve been but not been to in a long time. A gas station? (laughs)
Georgie 5:20
(laughs)
Geoff 5:27
actually, funny thing about that side note going to visit family in Perth, right? And I was like, oh, yeah, I’ll just steal one of the cars and, and my dad’s like, so the petrol is like two plus dollars a litre. Let’s have less cars. Pumping. And I was like, oh, yeah, totally forgot. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. Wow, where have I not been in a long time? Thir... thirteen years. Nah, I can’t think of a place that I wouldn’t have gone to, but I actually have gone to, but wouldn’t go back, have been back.
Georgie 6:07
I think you don’t engage in the thing that people do at this place. And so you would have no reason to go there.
Geoff 6:18
I don’t engage with the people there so why would I go there? Like, like, a club? Oh, my god. You went clubbing?
Georgie 6:26
No. Has nothing to do with the dancing.
Geoff 6:31
Man. I don’t know. I’ve I’ve pretty sure I’ve been to everywhere that I would have gone to before.
Georgie 6:38
(laughs) I mean, I could be wrong. I feel like you could have gone into one as well to use the bathroom. You could have gone into one for convenience.
Geoff 6:45
Yeah. I mean, like, there’s—
Georgie 6:48
Okay.
Geoff 6:48
David Jones would be a place that I’d go to for a bathroom out of convenience, they’re everywhere.
Georgie 6:56
A department store. Okay, maybe I should also say that this place has a primary purpose, I would say. But there are other purposes for this place. And you might go there for the other purposes, but probably not because you like to stay at home all the time. I guess.
Geoff 7:17
You—did you go to like an internet cafe?
Georgie 7:21
No.
Geoff 7:22
Oh man.
Georgie 7:23
But there might be internet access.
Geoff 7:27
Oh, like a Starbucks type place. I mean, that’s the only other thing I could think of that would go. I’d go to—
Georgie 7:35
I’m starting to think that you forget that this place is even a thing.
Geoff 7:41
It’s quite possible that I’ve forgotten that this place actually exists.
Georgie 7:47
I think you might have one near you?
Geoff 7:50
Um, huh. A park? A library? A library? Is it a library?
Georgie 7:57
Yep. It’s a library.
Geoff 7:59
I went to—yeah, we have talked about it. And I think I went to the library like at least two years ago, because I was trying to get rid of some magazines.
Georgie 8:12
(laughs) Yeah!
Geoff 8:13
I was so so excited because I pretty sure I texted you that day. I was like holy shit, Georgie. Guess where I am? In a frickin library.
Georgie 8:20
Oh, so you have been—but yeah, that’s what I mean, you haven’t been to one to borrow anything.
Geoff 8:26
It’s is a place that I likely just forgot existed. That’s what tipped me off. But fun fact about libraries though, that I learned, was that they actually upload all of that books online.
Georgie 8:45
Yeah!
Geoff 8:46
Like you can read most of their books as ebooks on their library website. Like, I’m pretty sure people would use the library website more than library if they knew that.
Georgie 8:54
So that’s what I was complaining about before we started the pod. I was like, oh, this app is so stupid, because I couldn’t find a book that I wanted in the library app that I had just downloaded. But I did borrow a book. So I actually joined the library.
Geoff 9:09
No way, you signed up to your local library. It was a—well, how was the process for signing up to your library?
Georgie 9:18
So I actually, before I went to the library in person, because it’s not that far, we were going to eat like at a cafe nearby anyways. I just went on the website, and you can actually just sign up online. And then you show them your, the success, or whatever. They, just put in your details when you sign up online.
Geoff 9:41
They ID check you?
Georgie 9:42
Yeah, so they just needed my driver’s license. Digital driver’s license everybody.
Geoff 9:47
Yeah. They accept digital driver’s license. How about that?
Georgie 9:50
That didn’t bother them, although the guy had to take my phone to make sure he was typing the details incorrectly. But he found my I guess, pending application and then I got a library card.
Geoff 10:02
No way, they gave you a physical card.
Georgie 10:04
They gave me a physical card. And I had to write my name on it.
Geoff 10:08
Oh, you had to write your name, what are we like eighteen? Seventeen? What are we, seventeen?
Georgie 10:15
I must say like, as someone who and like, if you haven’t listened to any of our previous episodes, we’ve talked about how I used to be very into books, and I spend a lot of my time in the library. And yeah, so I used to be a bookworm. And then I just one, not really one day, but this sounds way too dramatic. But I eventually I just lost interest in reading as much as, as much as I liked it before. So recently, I was feeling a little bit stressed. And then I thought I should find something to do with my time to sort of just keep me less focused on my stress and emotions, and just give me something to do. And then I started rereading an ebook that I’ve already read, and that I enjoy. I wasn’t forcing myself to read.
Geoff 10:59
What is this ebook? Give it a give it a rating, shout it out.
Georgie 11:02
It’s um. It’s called Hyperfocus.
Geoff 11:04
Oh, Hyperfocus.
Georgie 11:06
It’s by Chris Bailey, who I actually, listen to his podcast—the only podcast I listen to.
Geoff 11:14
Besides our podcast, why wouldn’t—
Georgie 11:17
Oh, yeah, I listen, I listen to ours for fun. Yeah. It’s a good book about the different types of focus that you can have during during during the day and throughout your life and how to use it more wisely had to kind of enter these modes of focus. So it’s a kind of like a productivity, improve your focus kind of book. So I reread it because the first time I read it, I was on a plane, and probably didn’t absorb as much information, as—
Geoff 11:47
Does your, does your brain absorb information differently at different heights? Like taste buds?
Georgie 11:55
But I guess it’s just like, because I didn’t have anything to do on the plane. So it’s absorbing this book, whereas I felt like I wanted—
Geoff 12:00
Getting on a plane soon.
Georgie 12:01
Woo. But yeah, I felt like I wanted to read something intentionally. And then I thought, you know, I should probably, I didn’t think I “should probably”, but I thought maybe I should ask people for some recommendations for books so that I can learn some more things. I guess.
Geoff 12:22
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Georgie 12:26
You know, I really would like to get into, I wouldn’t say a rant, but I have opinions about audiobooks.
Geoff 12:36
Yeah. Do you think that, what, not absorbable?
Georgie 12:40
Well...
Geoff 12:41
That’s what I think.
Georgie 12:42
All right. So I’ll preface this by saying that I completely understand that for some people, it’s a lot easier for them to read, quote, unquote, books that way, because they might be really busy at home with like family and stuff, or they just absorb that information better when it’s read to them. But I just as someone who used to really like reading books, I feel like it’s not the same as reading a book. So it feels like a cop out.
Geoff 13:09
So my problem with having Audible—and this is by no means, by any means any time and effort has been put into actually like testing this out... But I think I have too much focus. And people would call this absent mindedness. But I think it’s too much focus. That I will literally just forget the thing that that person said, like 20 minutes ago. So they would be they would read it to me, right. And at some point, I’d be like, they’ll reference something. And, and they’ll reference it in like the past. And I’ll be like—
Georgie 13:51
Yeah.
Geoff 13:52
I can’t remember what, what they reference. So with the book, I would go back and just like, figure it out, flick through and figure out maybe where they were where it was, or what they reference. I guess it’s also possible on Audible, because you could just like rewind it.
Georgie 14:08
Yeah, I know what you mean. And I—
Geoff 14:10
But if I’m reading it, I think I absorb it just just that little bit better. And I’ll remember the reference compared to to like listening to it. The visual.
Georgie 14:23
Yeah, you’re also looking at it at the same time that you’re reading it, and then understanding it. But I, I am saying this and even though I haven’t actually tried to listen to an audiobook. But I have that sort of fear that I won’t actually be paying 100% attention to the book as I’m, I think the people like the convenience of it, that they can do something else while they are listening to the book. But I feel like that is a little bit of a trap for me personally, I feel like I will tune out have at some point, and then—
Geoff 15:01
Absolutely.
Georgie 15:01
Have to rewind constantly to make sure I’m like, focused on it. Unless I’m doing like a walk on a treadmill. And it’s very monotonous kind of like housework or something.
Geoff 15:11
Yeah, my, my focus, my focus is very kind of one thing. So I’ll like ignore everything whilst I’m focusing on it. So if I’m listening to something, like you said, at some point, our tune out and focus, like, I’ll focus on the thing, or washing dishes, or like, I don’t know what people do multitasking whilst they’re listening to Audible. But I’ll focus 100% on that, and completely tune out whatever they’re saying then I’ll come back and be like oh, I missed a bunch of stuff.
Georgie 15:47
Maybe you should read Hyperfocus because it does kind of go into those tasks where you feel like you should be like, focused entirely on that thing. And then all the tasks that can be paired with something else so you can multitask, but it’s usually things like washing dishes, you can watch something at the same time, potentially, or listen to music. So it depends on like the tasks, but I find it a very interesting book, to kind of just understand how focus works, but also if you wanted to, like make improvements to how your focus works.
Geoff 16:18
Nah, my focus is fine.
Georgie 16:21
You just don’t want to you just don’t want to fucking listen to the audio book. Or read the book.
Geoff 16:28
Yeah, it’s probably because I don’t want to read a book. So, you borrowed a book?
Georgie 16:36
Yeah.
Geoff 16:37
Which was?
Georgie 16:39
It’s called Humankind by Rutger Bregman. So I actually tweeted on—yeah, I tweeted, tweeted on, I keep saying that—I tweeted on Twitter, where else would you. I tweeted, asking people for one, specifically, nonfiction book that they would recommend, because I didn’t—I mainly asked for one because I think people can have a tendency to recommend more than one. When really, they really like books, especially they’ll be like, “Oh, this is great. And this is great”. But I, as a consumer of like this information, and I just starting to sort of go back into books. I didn’t want people to just throw their recommendations at me, I wanted them to be intentional about the one that they were going to recommend. So someone actually mentioned this book. They didn’t say anything else about it. They just mentioned it as the recommendation. And I got the sample on Apple Books. And I started reading it. And I thought, oh, I think I like this one. And it’s a nice change from the topic and the theme of hyper focus, which is about productivity. And this book, Humankind is much about like humans, and I think kind of probably under the general of like human psychology. So.
Geoff 17:54
Is it like the Homo sapiens book?
Georgie 17:58
I actually haven’t read that one yet. So I’m not sure I’ve heard about it. But I’m not sure if it’s the if it’s a similar thing. But the view of Humankind is that humans are all looking out for one another, we care about each other. And it’s sort of arguing against the fact that many people in their day to day will say, “Oh, humans are selfish”, and so on.
Geoff 18:25
True, true.
Georgie 18:25
Yeah, the sample went into, which was just one thing I resonate with, it went into how the media is always feeding us negative information. And often because they, they want you to click on things, they want you to read things, and they know that like tapping into that sort of fear that you have when they write about things like or when they share things about disasters and tragedies and car crashes and things, like they they know that you will want to read more about that. And that really resonated with me because I haven’t really read the news for like—
Geoff 19:02
Oh my god, you didn’t know that the former Prime Minister of Japan was shot?
Georgie 19:06
See, I know that. But I guess like the reason I stopped—so I actually read the newspaper a lot when I was like, a kid like when I was like ten, ten to my teenage years. And then I studied media in uni and at school, and then began to understand the media’s, like, the fact that they can manipulate the news that they share with you. And then it also started to have an effect on my mental health. So I was like, I need to cut back on this...
Geoff 19:35
Ah shit. You saw how the sausage was made and you didn’t like it.
Georgie 19:38
Uh huh. Yeah.
Geoff 19:39
You like went vegan. You went vegan on news.
Georgie 19:42
Medium— news, yeah. Yeah, cuz I just thought this isn’t actually adding value to my life. If you think about it, I know a lot of people might not agree with this. And I do also agree that it’s nice or it’s useful to know about what is going on around you. But there have a psychological studies that have been done about how the news around you is not often like related to what you need to be concerned about, often and within a week, it doesn’t really matter anymore that there was a crash in Minnesota. For us, for example, but because we’re in Sydney, so, yeah, and so that kind of something in the intro of the book that I resonated with, and I thought I probably will like this book, so I’m gonna go find it at the library.
Geoff 20:28
Yeah, yeah. The whole Yeah, the shock factor, like clickbait type of media has just gone out of control. I also don’t pay attention to the news anymore, because that’s all they they want to do is this is I mean, it brings us back. I don’t know if we talked, I think we talked about it on the podcast, but there’s that Reddit who that’s like r Saved you a click, or something like that.
Georgie 20:53
Yeah.
Geoff 20:53
Yeah we went through it before. Yeah. See, that kind of stuff? Is, is the is the how the kids would say, the goat.
Georgie 21:02
The Greatest of All Time.
Geoff 21:04
Oh, yeah. That’s what it stands for. I keep forgetting what it stands for.
Georgie 21:07
I always forget. Like my mind, visualises as a literal goat.
Geoff 21:10
Yeah. Yeah. It’s like someone carrying a goat. Like, yeah, you’re the goat. Yeah, the but yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s like, do you need to? Do you need to consume all of that stuff? Probably not. Do you really need to know that Elon Musk had twins?
Georgie 21:33
Did he?
Geoff 21:33
Out of wedlock with his executive at Neurolink?
Georgie 21:37
Is this? Is this recent, by the way?
Geoff 21:39
Yeah. This is recent. Yeah.
Georgie 21:41
I mean, that kind of stuff is just gossip at the end of it. Yeah.
Geoff 21:45
Well, the thing is, he just had a surrogate child with his ex, Grimes, and you’re just like, yeah. Then that gets woven in, right? Because it’s like it, it gets the views, it gets the clicks. But there’s obviously way more important things that you you probably shouldn’t know about. Like, you know, I don’t know, politics in our own country.
Georgie 22:10
Yeah, actually, um, on that politics thing. You know, when we have to vote when there is an election, we don’t really get notified. They talk about it. But Nick had a colleague, I’m not sure if he still works there, could have been a colleague or an ex colleague who never consumed the news. And he didn’t know that there was an election, because they don’t email you. They don’t send you a thing in the mail to tell you there’s an election. And so they tried to find him for not voting. And he’s like, and he actually won when he like, made this argument. He said, how was I supposed to know, he was like, I live up in, I think he lives like, outside of Sydney. He doesn’t really, like he works from home. So he doesn’t talk, converse, with a lot of, you know, just having conversations with people apart from work stuff.
Geoff 22:58
Yeah.
Georgie 22:58
Doesn’t, yeah, he doesn’t read the news. It doesn’t. It’s not on social media, or whatever. So he had no idea. And so I think that was actually a valid excuse. Which leads me to think yeah, how are they supposed to communicate with you? I feel like they should tell you some, somehow.
Geoff 23:12
Yeah, this brings me back to the Instagram travesty, where like, restaurants—
Georgie 23:17
Oh my god.
Geoff 23:17
Starting, starting up Instagram accounts, and only Instagram accounts. And their menu is images on Instagram. Like, how is anybody supposed to fucking find what you sell on, on a bloody, I don’t know, Reel? Or story? Or, like, Why? Why is your menu just deep embedded in just Instagram?
Georgie 23:44
Yeah, why not just have a website—like websites are not that—not not, you know, advertising for Squarespace or whatever, but—it’s not difficult to set up a website and put like your opening hours and whatnot on there.
Geoff 23:56
Yeah, opening hours.
Georgie 23:57
The opening hours are so frustrating, because sometimes their website I just—now, yeah, because what you were saying is, now everyone’s sort of flocking to Instagram to, businesses are going there to share this information. And now because of that, I cannot trust the websites of many places. I’m like, is that up to date? And then I have to go and go to the effort of finding their Facebook or their Instagram to see your recent post of, oh, yes, things have been affected by you know, COVID or floods. So our opening hours have changed and it just, it’s a bit crappy, like, like, get that it’s easy, but it’s quite frustrating as a customer.
Geoff 24:35
If all your information is on a platform, if it if it’s like Twitter, if it’s Instagram, if it’s Face, Facebook, you almost have to have all three of these and not everybody like you know, stays up to date and wants to have all these different platforms just to figure out what the hell your opening hours are.
Georgie 24:57
Hey, Geoff?
Geoff 24:58
Yes.
Georgie 24:59
We don’t have a website.
Geoff 25:02
I mean, you guys should be following us on all our socials and all the podcast stuff. Actually, yeah, if we went to NameCheap how much would, would our...
Georgie 25:14
We talked about this, I think. I think.
Geoff 25:16
We did, we did, we did debate whether or not we should have... is it like, should we go toastroastpod.com? Yeah.
Georgie 25:24
I know some podcasts do FM. That’s very expensive. I think it’s like a couple of
Geoff 25:30
$13 a year versus FM, which is $115 a year, right.
Georgie 25:37
Wait, so no one has toastroastpod, oh it’s toastroastpod. Yeah.
Geoff 25:41
Yeah. I mean, we can do toastandroast.
Georgie 25:44
But what are the odds of that being like, taken?
Geoff 25:51
toastandroast dot coffee? That’s the number one suggestion.
Georgie 25:55
Dot co is the new, new kid on the block.
Geoff 25:57
Dot io, roastio. Roastio?
Georgie 26:00
Club! Toast and roast club!
Geoff 26:03
Club! App? Are we an app. No.
Georgie 26:08
No.
Geoff 26:09
Pro. VIP. Yeah biz? Oh my god, do you remember getting biz? I remember I couldn’t get my domain names. I just put, I just bought a biz.
Georgie 26:19
You remember those domain redirects? Those free ones?
Geoff 26:22
Yeah, the forwarders right?
Georgie 26:24
Dot net dot tf. I think was one that I had.
Geoff 26:28
Dot net dot tf... No, I’ve never heard of that one.
Georgie 26:31
Dot tk?
Geoff 26:33
Oh, yeah, yeah, dot tk.
Georgie 26:34
Do you what hap—do you know what happened to dot tk, is they used to do just a free redirect and then I think now they’re paid. Like...
Geoff 26:42
Really?
Georgie 26:42
There was a there was a shift and what happened there used to be able to get it for free. You know, back in the heyday of those domain name redirects when you didn’t want your freewebs.com/toastandroastpodcast. Like you could get one for free—
Geoff 26:56
Google Sites still exists.
Georgie 26:58
What’s that?
Geoff 26:59
Crazy. Google Sites. Still, still, Geocities doesn’t exist but Google Sites still does.
Georgie 27:04
Does Freewebs? I think—I feel like, oh it’s Webs now. It’s webs isn’t it?
Geoff 27:09
Freewebs, oh web, is it Webs now? Wow. That’s an expensive domain name.
Georgie 27:14
Is it?
Geoff 27:16
Yeah, it’s webs.com. It’s like four letters. Like anything below like 10 letters and you’re paying thousands of dollars for it.
Georgie 27:25
Good point.
Geoff 27:25
Anyway, anyways, so yeah, used to have URL shorteners. Those were really popular.
Georgie 27:33
They were hot.
Geoff 27:34
They were so hot right now. Right then. Twitter still does it t.co They got their t.co URL shortener.
Georgie 27:45
Well, so how much is that? That would be so expensive.
Geoff 27:50
Like single letter ones nowadays man... t.sydney. $12,988.
Georgie 27:56
Far out.
Geoff 27:57
See, anything. This is $1 million. Are you freaking kidding me? t.xyz.
Georgie 28:02
I think these are already—I think there was a statistic somewhere about five years ago that said that pretty much all combinations of domain names between one and four letters are like gone.
Geoff 28:14
Yeah.
Georgie 28:15
Yeah. So you can only kind of attain, obtain them from the current owner for millions of...
Geoff 28:24
Geoff.co. Wait, it’s taken. Of course it is. $1600 for Geoff dot inc. Ooh. Geoff Inc. Ooh. I can start my own label.
Georgie 28:32
Yeah? Yeah. Geoff AI. Why is that so expensive?
Geoff 28:39
Yeah. Anyways, so So yeah, go go back to the thing that—like this thing doesn’t have a website and you literally have to just look at—I think we’ve also got another thing in our location called Love Mi, which is a—oh god, can’t even use Instagram unlogged in. Which is a... not a clothing brand. It is—
Georgie 29:02
What is...
Geoff 29:04
Banh mi place.
Georgie 29:06
Oh, okay.
Geoff 29:08
Love Mi banh mi. Banh mi. Oh my god, I can’t even see... that’s another thing, I’ve Googled stuff for and I can’t—it comes up with nothing. And then I have to go through multiple other websites just to get just to get to their Instagram, which is—
Georgie 29:24
Is it because their name is like a pun or something.
Geoff 29:28
Maybe? Ah man, you know what? I have no idea how to find it now. Banh mi, banh mi Sydney.
Georgie 29:40
Okay, so this is a banh mi place called Love Mi.
Geoff 29:43
Yes. And we just been stalking the Instagram because it hadn’t opened yet. So the only way to figure out if they’ve opened or not is to stalk their Instagram.
Georgie 29:53
Stalk their Instagram. Yeah.
Geoff 29:54
Yeah. So. That is just, I don’t know, it’s I deleted Instagram, right? And I was like, oh no, I’ve, I’ve got no way to keep up to date with all of these bloody brands. Because I’m looking, I was looking to buy a key, build, buy, build, put together, assemble, assemble is probably the word—a keyboard at some stage, and these artisanal keyboarders, just only have an Instagram page. Just get on Twitter, at least.
Georgie 30:30
I don’t know, like, I don’t blame them. But at the same time, I feel like critical information should be easily accessible. That’s the, I think that’s the fundamental thing. And I just don’t think that Instagram lends itself to being easily accessible. Unless you only have three photos there that give you all the information you need. And that’s it.
Geoff 30:49
Yes, that’s actually kind of strange, right? Like, even when we have train strikes, or like delays and stuff like that, the only way you can find out is if you follow them on social media. There’s no text message, no email, you have the transport, whatever app, but they don’t notify you on that app. You got service New South Wales. Fuck you, don’t notify me here. Like. It’s just like, government is gone... I don’t know it. And then they mail you, right? I’ve seen the train strikes mail. You’re mailing me, I’m not gonna check my mail. So yeah.
Georgie 31:33
Actually, I got an email this morning from myGov. Did you get one? By any chance?
Geoff 31:40
Nah, I didn’t get one.
Georgie 31:41
But it’s so annoying, because the email just says “you have a new message in your myGov”.
Geoff 31:45
Oh, yeah, that’s true.
Georgie 31:47
And I’m like, all right. So this is my possibly yearly reminder to go and log into the myGov website and check my inbox there. And then well, it turns out, it was like some tax related thing, because it’s tax time, everybody. But I just find it just funny. Like that they email me to tell me I have a message on their platform, I guess, because there’s no way I’m gonna just log into their platform and fucking check.
Geoff 32:17
I’m wondering if it’s a security thing, banks do this. Like, I found it super frustrating, because A, like you bank would just email me that I have a new message in the se—like secure messaging platform inside Ubank. And then I was, oh, have to go log into the bloody portal, which is only available on desktop. So. Yeah, find my way through there. And, and then read the message. And, obviously, during mortgage process that gets frequent and very tedious because they just keep telling you, you’ve got a message there. And you’re err, okay, open up the laptop and then type-y type-y, login.
Georgie 33:09
I do think it’s better than nothing. Considering what’s there, because it’s better than missing an important message, I guess. And like I said, there’s no way you’d bloody log into some of these, these apps.
Geoff 33:21
I mean, I guess it’s kind of like if you turn off push notifications on your gov app. They can’t like, they can’t tell you you’ve got a message in there.
Georgie 33:32
I don’t even think I have the app on my phone. There’s no point.
Geoff 33:37
You don’t have the app? Yeah, I guess there’s no real purpose having an app.
Georgie 33:41
I have the Medicare one because I was like, well, just in case I don’t want to carry my Medicare card. And then I have Service New South Wales from my driver’s license.
Geoff 33:51
Let’s see if I have it. What’s what’s on it? I think it’s just like a connection to your your medical care. By the way, Australia has a universal Medicare. If you’re from a place that doesn’t understand this concept.
Georgie 34:07
Oh, speaking of like, medical stuff, my local doctors practice, sorry, GP, I should say. General Practice.
Geoff 34:17
General practitioner.
Georgie 34:18
Yeah. They have decided to not do bulk billing. Now I’m not complaining about this but this is never really something I thought about because I’ve just always gone to a place that was bulk billed, which means that you don’t really have to pay—
Geoff 34:34
To this day, I do not understand what the hell bulk billing is.
Georgie 34:39
So I learned about it like just recently, like as in like a month ago. Because, because—
Geoff 34:47
Is this entirely necessary information to know?
Georgie 34:50
It’s actually not, but just so you understand the language right, like so. When you see a place that says bulk billing, usually it means that they’ll bill like your appointments, or every time you see the doctor, they’ll just bill you in bulk at the end of the year, I think and then Medicare will just kind of cover the costs of the fees and stuff. But there are some practices that don’t do that. And so you actually have to pay a fee.
Geoff 35:16
Yeah.
Georgie 35:17
And, I think it’s so that the practice can get money for providing the services. So anyway—
Geoff 35:26
Usually specialists don’t bulk bill.
Georgie 35:29
That’s correct. Yeah. But my local general practitioner GP has decided to Yeah, I guess, stopped doing bulk billing. And so what they have explained to all of the patients–which they actually communicated via text, which was quite nice to them, I guess that’s how you should notify people.
Geoff 35:49
Yeah.
Georgie 35:50
They said that every appointment depending on—actually no, every appointment will have about a $30 fee. Now, and I know this sounds extremely privileged. But this is not something I’m used to. Because I’ve always gone to a place where every time I go, it’s kind of basically being covered by Medicare. I think that’s that’s what the bulk billing actually means. I don’t know why it’s called bulk billing though, just the fact that they bulk billed to Medicare or something. But yeah, so now every time I go to the doctor, I’m going to have to pay this fee. And then I looked into the kind of details about it, because I was like, this seems like an adult thing that I should know and understand. So I looked at the one page, thing, they had PDF, they had online and different service services, but different types of appointments require, like require more or less payment. And some of them, if you have a long consultation with a doctor, they’ll cost more, but essentially, this local practice of ours, it’s, it’s just always going to be $30 fee for you out of pocket. Even though the actual service, the price could be anywhere between $30 to $100, depending on what you need to see the doctor for and so on.
Geoff 37:13
Yeah, let’s have a look at... I’ve never read this, but, oh god, what did they do? They put Services Australia and a massive logo next to the Australian Govenment that’s just like tiny.
Georgie 37:25
Don’t think I’ve seen this site before. But...
Geoff 37:27
Yeah, I’ve never seen this before. Is it official? Is it legit? Bulk billing means you don’t have to pay for your medical service from a health professional they bill, or they bill Service Australia instead and accept the Medicare benefit as full payment for the service. Oh...
Georgie 37:46
Yeah, that’s, that that basically explains the whole thing.
Geoff 37:50
Now that, what you said makes sense. It’s kind of like, even though the service may cost $100, they’re willing to accept just like, whatever the standard payout from the government is, like 30.
Georgie 38:08
And I should add that, the, this local doctors practice. The reason they said their reasoning for doing this is so that they can ensure that they provide us with like top quality health care. So they obviously take pride in like what they offer there and that they have good doctors and stuff. So I guess it’s sort of like—
Geoff 38:30
I mean, imagine if your hairdresser bulk billed. That’d be great.
Georgie 38:36
Dude. I don’t know. I feel like that’s an entirely different thing. It’s not it’s not necessarily a basic human right the way that like—
Geoff 38:43
Oh, but is! Did you not see during Coronavirus. People were like, oh, yeah, hairdressers, that is a essential service, and it will like stay open. And then they closed it eventually.
Georgie 38:56
It’s kind of evolved though, when you think about it, like, Look, I’m not blaming a specific gender, but I’m just generalising that many women treat this as a luxurious service, like, you know, getting their hair done. So I just feel like it can’t really be, you can’t, I would just, I feel like some people would be upset if that was like covered like $500 hair dyeing session or something.
Geoff 39:25
Yeah, I mean, like, I’ve met a group of guys who would get their hair cuts every two weeks, because they just—I was like, woah. And you, they do $50 haircuts. They’re not, they’re not like cheaping out on this stuff. And I asked them, I asked them one day, I said, “Why do you get your hair cut so frequently?” And they said, or they don’t think it’s entirely like necessary, like they don’t have like a complete like, like they don’t go around recommending this to people, for instance.
Georgie 39:55
Yeah.
Geoff 39:55
They just, they boil it down to whether or not you prefer to look a very specific way all the time. It’s it’s their it’s their way of maintaining a specific look freq—consistently.
Georgie 40:12
Yeah, that makes sense to me because I guess like, if you’re cutting it every two weeks, you’re kind of cutting it before has an opportunity to kind of look like it’s quote unquote, like growing and getting bad.
Geoff 40:23
Yeah.
Georgie 40:23
Yeah. So like, since I’ve cut my hair short, so my hair is like, above my shoulders now, like, very clearly above my shoulders—
Geoff 40:31
It’s like chin length.
Georgie 40:33
Yeah! I cut it like this about six weeks ago before I went on my holiday. And then in. In the six weeks after that, it actually grew a lot, like noticeably, probably because it was short. But then the hair started to touch my, like my bottom of my neck and my shoulders. And I actually didn’t like it because I wanted it to be the style it was before. So I got my hair cut like two days ago, three days ago. And I kind of now get it when people have, keep their hair short, is that like, in just a few weeks, it can feel like you need to get cut again, because it’s grown a lot.
Geoff 41:15
So I increased my frequency from like, every three, six months, down to like, once a month. Like I started getting haircuts once a month. And I was like, you know what, this is not bad, this is not bad. Like, it is fairly uncomfortable when my when my hair grows out beyond beyond three months or something like that. And I’d get, I think I’ve gotten noticeably more irritated at my hair at that length. When previously I would literally let it grow until you can’t see my ears anymore. Like, back, back back when I was, I don’t know, 13 years ago.
Georgie 41:59
Yeah wow.
Geoff 42:02
So so yeah, I tot—I totally get it as well, when it starts to touch my ears. I’m just like, this gotta go, like—
Georgie 42:09
Yeah.
Geoff 42:10
Either buy a hair band or this is gotta go.
Georgie 42:13
Yeah, I’ve gone from like, honestly about once a year to like every one to two months now, because I’ve cut my hair short.
Geoff 42:20
Haha that’s a drastic, that’s drastic. That’s a 10 month reduction.
Georgie 42:24
I think I’m like, I’m addicted to the short hair now. I actually really like it. So yeah.
Geoff 42:29
Yeah. Are your showers noticeably shorter?
Georgie 42:32
Yes. Although sometimes when I don’t want to wash my hair. I’ll put a shower cap on, and then I’ll be like, what is the point? It doesn’t even fit in the showercap? It’s so short. I can’t do anything. It’s very liberating, though.
Geoff 42:47
Yeah. So really, we’re shifting costs here, right? We’re shifting the cost of water to the cost of a hair cut. And my I don’t know, my water bill was something in the in the order of like $155. I don’t know if it’s large, low or, low or high. $166 for the past three months. See—
Georgie 43:09
I don’t know how to gauge that.
Geoff 43:11
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’ve had it at 150 before. I’ve had it at 130 before. So maybe I’ve gone up in $36 and I’m like, is this high, have they just increased their rates?
Georgie 43:21
I think they actually have though now that you mentioned it. I feel like Nick said something to me about this.
Geoff 43:25
COVID has given us a shortage of water.
Georgie 43:28
I think it’s actually electricity, though. He was like, oh, why’d you why’d you leave the light on? The electricity has gone up. So...
Geoff 43:34
Yeah, yeah. My dad also like, my dad’s really funny. Every now and then he’ll give me news on New South Wales. That’s how I get my news.
Georgie 43:42
You’re like, I’m here.
Geoff 43:43
Yeah. Well, the thing is, he’s probably painfully aware that I am not painfully aware of things that are happening in New South Wales. So.
Georgie 43:53
He just, he just cares about you Geoff.
Geoff 43:55
Yeah, yeah. This is, this is how dad shows his care. Yeah. The, but anyway, so he’ll, he’ll be like, you might want to look at some electricity providers, because a lot of the smaller ones are shutting down because of the higher costs. And you might want to like reduce the cost of electricity. And I’m like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Makes sense. Makes sense. Because all the petrol and fuel and how we generate our electricity is going up and stuff like that. So yeah, hot water. It has actually been an issue in my building. I’m thinking, like my theory—and someone else’s theory in the same building—is that lots of people are just taking showers at the same time at this, like, these days. So between seven and like, nine, ten, nine.
Georgie 44:47
Yeah.
Geoff 44:48
Seven and nine, ten, water’s like, lukewarm or cold at best.
Georgie 44:54
Wow, that’s bad.
Geoff 44:56
Yeah, yeah. But if you shower like 5pm five to 6pm on the dot. You’re, you’re you’re OK. You’re like, the water is hot?
Georgie 45:08
But why is it different now?
Geoff 45:10
I don’t know. I mean, the winter is colder so everyone’s like, like feeling like they need to take showers longer, hotter.
Georgie 45:18
Yeah longer, longer showers like yeah, but at the same time, I’m not sure about that.
Geoff 45:24
All at the same time. Yeah, they all got a memo. They’re like, alright, everybody we’ll shower at the same time.
Georgie 45:30
But I just feel like that’s a normal on average time when you said like—
Geoff 45:34
Yeah.
Georgie 45:35
Seven to 10pm. That’s right average, like—
Geoff 45:39
Oh it’s true, hey, why is it now cold?
Georgie 45:44
I reckon people just take longer showers. Because, I mean, I get it, sometimes I don’t want to get out of there when it’s really cold.
Geoff 45:50
Yeah, um, my extremities get pretty cold pretty fast. So, when I, like the shower is the only way I can warm all of my extremities up at the same time. Otherwise, like warming one or the other one, and still everything just gets cold again. So, yeah, at one point I couldn’t shower. It, like it was, it was lukewarm called up until midnight and I was like, I got to sleep. Maybe once, maybe like this for the second time in my life. Maybe the third time in my life. I went I went to sleep without taking a shower.
Georgie 46:33
But one might argue that in the winter, you might not have really gotten sweaty like you would in summer.
Geoff 46:39
Oh, it’s definitely, it’s definitely a habitual thing. Like it’s sort of like, I’ve done this all my life. I can’t go without doing it. Yeah. You know, what we can’t go without doing ending this podcast. 49 minutes! Probably shouldn’t say the time in case I edit this.
Georgie 46:59
You will edit it.
Geoff 47:01
But.
Georgie 47:01
Oh, well.
Geoff 47:02
Oh well.
Georgie 47:02
People will know that we had pre banter. And then I wonder what it was about?
Geoff 47:08
The mystery continues. You can follow us on all the socials. Yes, we don’t have a website yet. So you’re gonna have to, gotta find us on @toastroastpod on Instagram or Twitter.
Georgie 47:23
You can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and the big bulk billing.
Geoff 47:36
Imagine getting that bulk bill. Like actually.
Georgie 47:39
Actually, yeah.
Geoff 47:40
The end of the year, getting a receipt for it.
Georgie 47:42
Well it depends how often you go to the—
Geoff 47:44
True, true.
Georgie 47:45
Yeah, go to the doctor.
Geoff 47:47
So we’ll see you—every, new episodes every Monday.
Georgie 47:49
See you next week.
Geoff 47:51
Bye.