Why voyeurism of celebs/people is natural, but attacking them is bad... Followed by our repeating segment on how social media is rotten and how we switch off at the end of the day.
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Why voyeurism of celebs/people is natural, but attacking them is bad... Followed by our repeating segment on how social media is rotten and how we switch off at the end of the day.
Social media
Toast & Roast:
Georgie:
Geoff:
Georgie 0:07
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Toast & Roast. As usual, I’m here with Geoff, who is my co host. And I am Georgie.
Geoff 0:17
Should, should we keep that as the new normal?
Georgie 0:21
Nah, we just change it up. Every now and then. So, just before we started recording this episode, we were like, I would say gossiping, quote unquote, we were basically talking about celebrities, people in the public eye, and how—
Geoff 0:39
Yeah. And how it’s none of our fucking business.
Georgie 0:42
It’s none of our fucking business, but I think some of us, and myself included at times—
Geoff 0:47
Yeah.
Georgie 0:48
Give, give a little bit too much of a shit about their personal lives because it’s just interesting,
Geoff 0:53
I think. Yeah, like you kind of alluded to earlier, voyeurism is kind of natural, especially when someone’s lives are just, like always being, like, constantly, like put in front of us. Nah, I think it’s, I think it’s fine to be interested. Because, you know, you follow these people. And generally their lives are very public. So it’s, it’s like generally okay to me. But—
Georgie 1:25
You might idolise them as well. And so you’re just like, cool. They did a cool thing, or they married a person or something. And it’s just interesting.
Geoff 1:34
Yeah, yeah. I, I came across this Twitter account that was set up to essentially tweet, the location of Elon Musk’s private jet.
Georgie 1:47
Hahaha. What.
Geoff 1:50
Yeah. It’s public record. It’s public record that hit where his jet is. So but, he, like Elon found it. And he asked them to take it down and he would pay them $5,000.
Georgie 2:07
Did they?
Geoff 2:08
Well, the kid—I call them—the kid who set it up.
Georgie 2:15
Very smart kid, good on you, kid.
Geoff 2:17
...set it up, um, asked for 50,000. And Elon said, “How about nothing?” And then I don’t know where the conversation went from there. But yeah, it was, but the kid didn’t delete it, I think. It’s frickin hilarious.
Georgie 2:39
I mean, it’s pretty funny that he was like, negotiating the price to remove essentially public information. I mean, he could have made a quick buck, I guess. But.
Geoff 2:49
Yeah. So it’s sort of like it’s a bit strange. I think that kind of borderlines on a bit stalkery. Like, even though these celebrities have their, you know, lives on display, it doesn’t mean that you go out of your way to inconvenience them, or berate them for choices in their lives. But, you know, a little give it a gossip here and there, it’s kind of socializing.
Georgie 3:25
Yeah, but it’s kind of shit when, like, it kind of is detrimental to the celebrities’ reputation, I guess. So a certain example, I’m thinking of, is a Singaporean influencer, who was dating another guy in Singapore. And someone had gone out of their way to somehow hack the guy’s like, iCloud account or something. And they found—
Geoff 3:53
Jesus.
Georgie 3:53
Like, yeah, they found a lot of private videos of like, his sex life. And they leaked it, of course, because people are interested. But what, but what happened after that was I think that was how the girl, the influencer, she, she found out that he, her boyfriend had been cheating on her. Because the videos had him with other women. And so so it was a terrible scandal. And it was very public, because she was in some of those videos as well. And, you know, it was I guess it was kind of unfortunate, right? Because then she had to deal with that. And probably the person... I don’t know. I don’t know, if hackers, you know, they always say that hackers don’t really mean to target, like, you, they’re just trying to look to getting some money or something like that. There is like a motive. And it’s not always like, malicious, but I don’t know. But that was very shitty for the people involved, obviously because it was very public. And it was personal stuff. It wasn’t just like you know, oh, a nip slip here, right? It was like quite. Yeah.
Geoff 5:04
Yeah.
Georgie 5:05
Full on private stuff.
Geoff 5:07
I always think about—
Georgie 5:08
Oh, and then like, on top of that, it’s like, not only like was it revealed that he had been cheating on her, but then people started to make comments about how they appeared in those videos about their bodies and things that just spiralled into complete like, yeah, and this is where I feel like, it really is like none of your business, like what the f—ugh.
Geoff 5:30
Like, I think, I think private commentary is so much this is like different to public commentary. Why make that kind of commentary public? And yeah, it’s it’s literally none of your business. In any case, I mean, like, I, I also, I’m in no position to criticise because I just did a whole we just did like half a podcast on Paris Hilton’s life. Like just dived into what the hell Paris Hilton has been up to. But yeah, in general, it’s, it’s really none of our business and in no way we should criticise people’s choices. I—another example is like, you know, when, I don’t know if you are up to date with it, but Adele, she had lost significant amount—
Georgie 6:24
Yeah.
Geoff 6:25
...weight over a few years, right. And she got literally, like, berated and ostracised for losing weight for being healthy for being whoever the hell she wants to be. But everyone’s like, oh, I looked up to you. Like, I’m big, too. And I really hate you.
Georgie 6:46
Yeah.
Geoff 6:46
...now, for getting thin. I thought you were against this whole thin thing. Like what the hell?
Georgie 6:51
Well, I like I do understand that because I know like, a lot of like, fat people look for someone to like, look up to because they feel alienated.
Geoff 7:02
(coughing)
Georgie 7:03
Don’t die, dude.
Geoff 7:06
That was not in response to what you were saying.
Georgie 7:09
Yeah. Yeah, I know, a lot of bigger people, fat people, people who identify as being fat, or they feel like they’re in a minority, they don’t feel well represented. So when they see somebody like them, you know, they, they feel a connection, and it can feel like—some people have worded as like betrayal—
Geoff 7:28
That’s right, betrayal.
Georgie 7:29
...or something like this happens. But then, you know, other people have also said, like, but you don’t need to literally, like get angry at the person for that, like, just stop following them or whatever.
Geoff 7:44
Yeah.
Georgie 7:45
Another one I recall recently, as the as a Black woman, I follow on Instagram, and she had shared a lot on her profile about being single and struggling with being single. And then she found a partner and she announced that she’d been with this person for some time. Someone like, went into her DMs and was like, “I really like looked up to you”. And they even, I think this is, I think this is the kicker, they revealed that they weren’t Black, they were a white person, but they looked up to her because they were also single, and it was like, “but I saw your post with your new partner. And it triggered me so I’m following you because I” like, you know, can’t, like, “I can’t deal with this”. Or whatever. “But good luck with your man”. And, you know, and she was like, like, everyone, she she reposted that. And she was like, this is really upsetting for me as a person, like, you know, like, I I know, I can’t please everybody. And obviously, I’m happy with this person I’m with. But it’s like, these people don’t need to tell the people that. Like I unfollowed you because you’re triggering and shit because that hurts them as well. And it’s everything is like toxic and fucked up, man.
Geoff 8:58
The thing like, it’s almost like, every—like collectively people have decided that you—that they are they have an idol. And that idol is living by this, this these constraints, right? The things she must, she’s single, and she is a beacon of, you know, single hood, and that that person is living—
Georgie 9:24
Is never gonna change—
Geoff 9:26
Right? And then the moment they change from single to a partner, they’re like, oh, man, but you said you love being single. Like, what’s up with that? You’re hypocrite now, like, yeah, nah?
Georgie 9:39
People change all of the fucking time.
Geoff 9:42
Exactly. It’s like that. That whole sense of betrayal scene. Yeah, seems a little—
Georgie 9:48
It’s very selfish as well. It’s just like, Look at me. I am offended by what you did or whatever. This is about me now. I’m offended that you—
Geoff 9:56
You broke the rules.
Georgie 9:56
...lost weight or whatever. It’s just shit.
Geoff 10:00
You broke the rules of your life, which I gave you, I gave you those rules. You don’t you don’t break them.
Georgie 10:06
It’s, it’s, just bad. Like, I think it goes back to what we were just saying is like, simply it’s like it’s none of your business. And like people make their own... Like you said, people make their own choices in life. Like you can’t be mad at somebody else who’s literally a celebrity. Like not even like someone you with or anything like that.
Geoff 10:25
Yeah.
Georgie 10:25
And you’re mad at them because you got like you don’t, I don’t know, it just doesn’t. They don’t owe you shit. They—
Geoff 10:33
You don’t know them. They don’t know you. Like no one owes anyone anything. Of course, you know, people are vulnerable and people think the like, think things differently. But in general, man, it is a bit of a shit show. Having social media is a shit show, really. And we’ve talked too much about social media, how much we hate it. But I did see something on Twitter also recently how this person responded to a tweet. Not even responded, actually yeah. Said a statement, they basically said, “I followed you for tech stuff”. And this is a woman in tech, who has like taken a break from tech or I think they’re pregnant. So most of the stuff they talked about was like womanhood and like and and you know birthing and stuff like that. So this person’s like, “it’s really disappointing to see you not post about tech as much so I’m unfollowing you”.
Georgie 11:38
Fuck. Fuck off.
Geoff 11:43
No joke. No joke. The tweet the tweet after the one he replied to, was literally them saying, I know I haven’t been talking about tech as much. I’ll get back to that soon.
Georgie 12:00
Oh. Shit.
Geoff 12:01
Like, dude, yeah, she doesn’t owe you shit. Like.
Georgie 12:07
Exactly.
Geoff 12:08
You don’t like her, just unfollow, like a tonne of responses, “Like, dude, just silently unfollow, if you don’t like the stuff that’s coming out”, like, it’s not that hard. But, like, sure, none of it. Practice, practice some self control over your responses to people you have nothing to do with, in any way shape or form.
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Georgie 12:40
Yeah.
Geoff 12:41
Yeah.
Georgie 12:41
It’s like, it’s just not all about—I don’t know why. It’s just like, also consider that this is a person you’re talking to.
Geoff 12:48
Yeah!
Georgie 12:48
Right. Like for you to tell them, “oh, I don’t like what you...” like this, dude, this is a, this is an opt in thing. Right? You followed?
Geoff 12:57
Yeah.
Georgie 12:58
...for a reason. If you don’t fucking like it, leave!
Geoff 13:01
Yeah, you’re, you’re not gonna, you’re not gonna go up to I don’t know, your sister in law, someone that’s somewhat like distant from you, but still connected. You’re not gonna just go like, “so um like, I only talk to you because you talk to me about tech. So I’m just gonna stop listening to you right now”. And you’re like, why—
Georgie 13:24
Can you imagine if people just did that in real life?
Geoff 13:26
Yeah. “I’ve walking behind you on this pathway for about 10 minutes, and I really liked your walk. But then you started running. And man, I did not like you running. Okay, so I’m gonna stop. I’m gonna stop walking behind you from now on.”
Georgie 13:46
No-one asked you. Like.
Geoff 13:48
Exactly. No one asked you to give a critique on what I’m doing right now. But then you get that argument, right, if you don’t want people like, talking to you, stop sharing on the internet. Oh god.
Georgie 14:03
Yeah, that makes no sense to me.
Geoff 14:07
Like, let people do what they want to do. It’s, it’s pretty shocking. And generally just hate hate social media. But I mean I still haven’t deleted my Instagram account.
Georgie 14:27
You can’t delete it because then you can’t like promote our podcast.
Geoff 14:32
Ah, I mean, yeah, it’s true.
Georgie 14:39
I mean, like, you can have it around but not use it, I guess. But you know, I know some people feel like they have to completely disconnect or something like that.
Geoff 14:49
Hmm. I got sent a sentiment from one of my friends. I think it was Taiyo. Yeah, Taiyo sent me a picture of a photography he follows and the photographer post to, I think is one of the stories with the text on top of it. It said something along the lines of actually, no, I won’t. I won’t like paraphrase this.
Georgie 15:10
Actually when you’re done, I want to rant.
Geoff 15:13
Yeah.
Georgie 15:15
I want to rant about the story with the text on top of it thing.
Geoff 15:20
Yeah. So it says this, “Instagram is again”—we’re again ranting about social media. But anyways, um, “Instagram is again proving that it is no longer a platform for photographers, they have severely limited the reach of posts, the past weeks, not only mine, in a way, Instagram doesn’t owe me anything. But it’s so demotivating to spend so much time and effort on this platform and feeling that nobody sees the results. I’m sick of whining about this stuff. Yet again, I am more, I am more sick of this platform. Are there any actual alternatives for people that don’t produce video out there?” And that is like a polite way, right? He, they, acknowledge that Instagram as a service owes them nothing. But still voices their, their concern about things?
Georgie 16:16
And so they’re gonna leave. I mean, if they find an alternative—
Geoff 16:19
Maybe if they find.
Georgie 16:21
Yeah.
Geoff 16:21
Yeah.
Georgie 16:23
Well, I, to that question. I have no answer on it. No, if there’s an alternative to Instagram, like, if you want to, if you want to consume content, like of course, I can say, as a use—as a, as a what do you call it? A content creator? You can you can post pictures. But but like to like to find people to follow who don’t, who like only post pictures. That’s difficult when you’re just being bombarded with like, reels and shit. Speaking of these fucking reels. I don’t know, if you, you haven’t been on, you haven’t really watched? I assume? Like you don’t really spend time looking at anything on Instagram. So I don’t know if you will know what I’m talking about.
Geoff 17:07
Yeah, I do. But I kind of avoid reels like the plague.
Georgie 17:14
But sometimes they’re in people’s stories.
Geoff 17:16
As much as—
Georgie 17:17
Yeah, to some extent.
Geoff 17:19
Really annoying. Yeah.
Georgie 17:19
So I don’t know if you’ve seen this particular type of video type. But it’s some there’s there’s a video of someone doing something. And there’s probably text on the video to give you some context as to what’s going on. But the audio is—the audio used, like reads out that text. It’s like automatic, or like, what’s the text to speech thing.
Geoff 17:45
Yeah.
Georgie 17:45
That voice is a female voice. And it’s, I’m pretty sure it’s synthetic. It’s not real. It’s—and it—the tone of it really pisses me off. And it’s often used in like short video. So it by the way, for people who don’t use Instagram, a reel is like a short video basically like a TikTok. It’s like Instagram’s version of a short video.
Geoff 18:07
Like Vine, like TikTok.
Georgie 18:09
Yeah.
Geoff 18:09
Like a Musically, what’s it called, Musically? It’s the lip syncing thing. Anyways, yeah.
Georgie 18:14
Yeah. So the voice is something like, I’m going to try and do it because it just... god I hate this. But it goes something like, “try this with your dog”. And it’s like an American accent. And it’s—do you know what—do you know I’m talking about?
Geoff 18:27
I know that voice. Yeah.
Georgie 18:28
Yeah. And, like, the reason it irritates me so much, is because it sounds so synthetic. And sometimes it’s used for meme content, you know, for the purpose of this is a funny video. It’s like... I’m trying to think of an example. But like, they usually go like, “try this with your dog”. And it’s like, you know, do like, some trick with your dog or, like, pat them on the back of the neck, and they’ll do something cool or whatever. But it’s also applied to other shit like... Man, I can’t even think of an example. But it’s applied so much to different things. Like, “go outside in the rain without your shoes on”. It’s just like, it’s... arghhhhh. It’s just, so synthetic. It’s like, it’s got this tone to it without even being like fucking real—
Geoff 19:18
I think—
Georgie 19:19
...and it makes everything sound just shit.
Geoff 19:22
I think I’ve heard it in maybe a YouTube video that like collects a bunch of this, of these videos, the short video—
Georgie 19:32
Compilation.
Geoff 19:32
Sometimes it takes—yeah compilations that takes sometimes from Instagram reels. Yeah, I know the, I know the voice. It is a little bit—
Georgie 19:42
“Start a podcast and see what happens”. Fuck you. Fuck you.
Geoff 19:48
“Become a, become a content creator. Like Toast & Roast”.
Georgie 19:54
Yeah, exactly. It’s just, it’s just shit. Or it’s like “pour boiling water on your arm and watch your finger burn”. Like it’s just the tone. Okay, so that I guess the problem for me is that the tone sounds like sarcastic, but it’s often used in non sarcastic situations like, what’s what’s a random pet peeve? Like... Oh, yeah, like, like when your jeans are too big, right? Like, “try this next time your jeans are too big” and it’s just like, are you, are you like making fun of me? And it’s like.
Geoff 20:28
Are you mocking me?
Georgie 20:28
Are you mocking me? Yeah. Are you mocking me, but in the video, they’re showing you like tips and tricks to like, I don’t know, how to fold your belt or whatever the fuck. And that’s where I’m like, why did you choose this audio thing? Like I don’t understand.
Geoff 20:42
Yeah, it’s like it’s helpful, but not helpful at the same time. It’s sort of like voiceovers are a good thing, but not those voice service captions.
Georgie 20:56
Oh, actually, yes. Speaking... Yes, speaking of those, like, so I know that. Like to make something more accessible. When it’s audio, you put the text somewhere so that people who are hard of hearing can can understand what is in the audio. But in some of these reels, they use an audio which is maybe taken from like a movie because there’s like a funny quip or whatever. But then the text they put on the video doesn’t match—
Geoff 21:26
Oh no.
Georgie 21:27
...the audio. Yeah, so it’s kind of like maybe someone’s saying “three things I do at the gym to gain muscle”, or whatever right, is the text on the video. And then maybe one of them is like, I don’t know, “deadlift, squat and bench press” is the text on the video. But then the audio is from some movie and it’s like, it goes like “one, two, three” and it’s just like, it’s confusing, because it’s often fast paced. Yeah, and like you hear this “one, two, three” as an audio, like coming out of your phone as you’re looking. But then you’re trying to read at the same time. Yeah, where it says “squat, bench press, deadlift”. I even said that in the wrong order from what I originally said. But it’s like the it’s like the fucking pat your head rub your belly bullshit.
Geoff 22:13
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
Georgie 22:13
Like, but you’re reading and listening.
Geoff 22:16
Can you swing your arms in opposite directions? Like, you like to rotate, you rotate your arms forward, right, and then all but one of your arms is going backwards.
Georgie 22:31
Wait what do you mean like this? I don’t understand.
Geoff 22:34
One arm going backwards. One arm going forwards.
Georgie 22:38
Oh wait. (laughter) Am I doing it right? (laughing)
Geoff 22:46
Yeah yeah yeah. You gotta start with one that goes forwards. And then you match one that goes backwards.
Georgie 22:54
Yeah, yeah. I get what you... So like, I mean, I mean, maybe we can do this. Right. But like we’re obviously like, able bodied in, but. You know, and, and I can ignore the audio or turn it off and then read what’s in the video.
Geoff 23:09
Yeah, but not everyone has a choice.
Georgie 23:10
Two separate tasks.
Geoff 23:11
Yeah, not everyone has a choice.
Georgie 23:13
Yeah. And then some people just like, would struggle with that and be like, I can’t. I just don’t get it. And then yeah, I guess the other thing I mentioned is that sometimes these videos are like fast paced. I’m like, how do you expect me to read all that text you just had there and the video just stops. And the annoying thing about reels is that you can’t always pause them. So you have to watch it fucking again to digest like, ahhhh.
Geoff 23:40
It brings me back to that problem with YouTube thumbnails, right. They have text on the thumbnail—
Georgie 23:46
Here we go.
Geoff 23:47
...make, that doesn’t connect to the bloody title underneath it. Like—
Georgie 23:52
Yeah, fuck this this.
Geoff 23:53
This one, this one says “Hitler’s final day” in the thumbnail but like the title is “Last 24 Hours of Hitler’s life”.
Georgie 24:02
But 24 hours is... how many hours are in a day? (sniggers)
Geoff 24:05
That’s true. But okay, that’s a bad one. Oh, my god. Too much news.
Georgie 24:14
You’re getting a lot of like, yeah too much trending shit.
Geoff 24:21
Okay, I can’t find a great example.
Georgie 24:23
Cafe Jazz.
Geoff 24:24
Everyone knows.
Georgie 24:26
I raised a doughnut.
Geoff 24:28
“I raised a doughnut, when Asian kids decide their own career”. See? That’s actually that’s actually really bad. Right? “I raised a doughnut, when Asian kids decide their own career”. It’s terrible.
Georgie 24:41
For context peeps, “I raised a doughnut” is the text on the thumbnail, whereas the the actual title of the video is about raising kids. Oh god.
Geoff 24:52
Yeah, it’s just terrible. But yeah. Oh. Why is why news so bad.
Georgie 25:01
It’s all bad. It’s all shit.
Geoff 25:03
Oh I was in a Slack channel, yeah, was in a Slack channel and someone was like, people were talking about general news, like news and the general channel. And then someone was like, Can we make a news channel so that people can talk about the news?
Georgie 25:20
Oh my god, I don’t want to like shoot on this. But like we have a, we have a general... Yeah, like, or, like a globe—a staff global channel. And some people make fun of it a little bit because it’s got a bit of irrelevant content but like, it’s not super relevant because it concerns everybody around the globe. And so some people have muted that channel.
Geoff 25:45
Yeah. Someone responded to that asking, like, are you actively not trying to read the news? And I was like—
Georgie 25:53
Yeah, hey, this is me. That would be me because I actively don’t read the news.
Geoff 25:57
I don’t read the news. Um, and they said, “No, I’m just trying to control the time at which I consume news”. And—
Georgie 26:08
Yeah.
Geoff 26:09
I think that’s pretty good. That’s a pretty good way of thinking about social media in general, right, turn off the notifications and, like, have a bit of control over when you engage in social media.
Georgie 26:23
Mine have been off for like, 10 years, dude.
Geoff 26:26
Yeah, same, same. Just PSA for everyone out there.
Georgie 26:30
Yeah. Yeah. In case you’re trying to like DM me on Twitter, like right now. I ain’t seen it. Yeah, go in there when I want.
Geoff 26:38
Give, give it a go. Give it a go. I mean, I’m not the most popular person on social media anyways, so I kind of turned most things off, except for I think messaging.
Georgie 26:48
Wait, let me just message you on Twitter, like right now.
Geoff 26:51
And see if it buzzes me, it probably will.
Georgie 26:54
Nah.
Geoff 26:56
Like, started going for walks again, since COVID is no longer a, like, major concern. And, uh, I have the Siri talking. Like, it reads my messages to me into my—
Georgie 27:16
Oh yeah.
Geoff 27:17
Yeah. Into my AirPods. And then I realise, like, I’ve spent like, quite a few times just looking at my phone and walking and I’m like this is this seems like an unhealthy route or an unhealthy habit to continue. So I started “Do Not Disturb”-ing anytime I went for a walk. I don’t know if—
Georgie 27:41
Yeah.
Geoff 27:41
...good or bad. But I feel like I’m being pre emptive enough in something that seems like could be a bad habit. Like, sometimes gotta switch off.
Georgie 27:50
Yeah. Yeah, I started doing the same like maybe, like, last year, when I started doing more walks during, like work from home time. Like when the weather was good. Like, I was like, actually, I like this time walking outside to not be like stuck to my phone. So I just like, I just use the time to, like, look around and shit, you know, that my mind process thoughts and things. And so yeah, I’ve actually been doing the same thing and putting like, Do Not Disturb when I’m like out somewhere.
Geoff 28:25
Honestly, I find walking super boring. I am generally a mindful person. So I mean, I’m, I look around and I’m not thinking about very much. So I’m like, this is kind of boring.
Georgie 28:39
You’re thinking about like, one step, two step.
Geoff 28:42
I try. I try to be mindful—
Georgie 28:43
Three steps, I’m so bored of counting my steps.
Geoff 28:45
Tree, steps, people. What’s that idiot doing? Can you stop doing that? Please don’t stand so close to me. Yeah, that kind of stuff. So yeah, it’s kind of like both tempting to check my phone more frequently, because walking is generally boring to me. But at the same time, I, I think it like, I should get in the habit of not not looking at my phone whilst I’m doing like, it’s okay to be bored. You know?
Georgie 29:19
Yeah, that’s yeah, that’s definitely underrated. I think.
Geoff 29:24
It’s, it’s hard to believe.
Georgie 29:25
Like I just... Yeah, it’s like, I just sit there. Like, sometimes in the morning, I’ll sit there on the couch. And I’ll just look out the window.
Geoff 29:33
Yeah.
Georgie 29:33
Maybe I’m not being like entirely like, present, but I’m just outside. I’m watching outside. And I’m not like, my mind’s not necessarily occupied with any certain tasks. And I’m just letting the time pass.
Geoff 29:48
Yeah, I always hear about it a lot. You know. That it’s good for you. So hopefully, I’ve the circu—I, hopefully I can circumvent a potentially bad habit. I used to walk and text a lot, like between trains and like going to, like commute walks and stuff like that. I’d be like, kind of texting and walking. And it seems very dangerous.
Georgie 30:17
I think—yeah, that. But also I think it’s like because because walking is so boring, sometimes I have the tendency to be like, I should do something useful on my walk.
Geoff 30:25
Exactly. Yeah. You want to be productive.
Georgie 30:27
Maybe I’ll respond to an email.
Geoff 30:28
Yeah.
Georgie 30:29
Yeah. But then like, you know, I think we’ve talked or like alluded to this before, is that to be productive all the time, is, doesn’t mean it’s good, or healthy for you, or that, you know?
Geoff 30:41
Yeah, you know, what else is unhealthy—listening to this podcast, no jokes.
Georgie 30:48
For too long.
Geoff 30:49
For too long. And that’s why we’re cutting this one now. So, feel free to follow us on Twitter, Instagram, mostly Twitter, where we post the new episodes and Instagram where we post the clips.
Georgie 31:08
Yeah, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the big walk you’re gonna go on outside while you disconnect from the internet.
Geoff 31:19
Yeah, give your mind some space. As per usual, we are not health experts at all. You don’t have to listen to any of our advice. But we’ll keep giving it to you every Monday.
Georgie 31:34
We’ll see you next week.
Geoff 31:36
Bye.
Georgie 31:37
Bye.